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Nine automakers sell full lineups in the U.S., and the Environmental Protection Agency has ranked them according to fuel-efficiency. At the top of the EPA's list sits Honda (HMC), whose U.S. models average 23.6 miles per gallon; Hyundai (23.4 mpg) and Toyota (TM) (23.2 mpg) take home silver and bronze, respectively. At the other end of the spectrum, we find Detroit's Big Three: Ford (F) (20.5 mpg), GM (19.9 mpg), and Chrysler (18.7 mpg). Sounds like Bob Lutz might need to refine Howie's message. [GreenCarReports]

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  • Fuel efficiency should be compared by vehicle class. Honda and Hyundai do not make full size trucks. Trucks are not evil and are essential to constuction and recreation, both important components of our economy. Example: a Chevy Traverse gets better fuel economy than Honda Pilot and Chevy is bigger.
    2009 Nov 23 10:56 AM Reply
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  • It's cause of that lawn mower, isn't it?
    2009 Nov 23 11:24 AM Reply
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  • I agree with you. Vehicles not common to all the companies surveyed should not be included in this average. Trucks should be done seperately. In fact to be fare you should be comparing car size to car size also.

    On Nov 23 10:56 AM USAFORSALE wrote:

    > Fuel efficiency should be compared by vehicle class. Honda and Hyundai
    > do not make full size trucks. Trucks are not evil and are essential
    > to constuction and recreation, both important components of our economy.
    > Example: a Chevy Traverse gets better fuel economy than Honda Pilot
    > and Chevy is bigger.
    2009 Nov 23 11:37 AM Reply
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  • I agree with the other commenters. These stats for manufacturer fleet fuel efficiency numbers are useless. People don't buy a fleet of cars, they buy one of a certain segment.

    You should note that the Ford Fusion gets the best (non-hybrid) fuel economy for a mid-sized sedan, the Chevy Equinox gets the best fuel economy for a mid-sized SUV, the GM full size trucks are best. These are the stats that matter and they correspond with the segments that sell the most so they have the most impact. At the other end of the spectrum, the Camaro and Corvette get amazing highway fuel economy, kicking the butt of their segment competitors. GM, Ford, Chrysler are a little low on the small car segments except for the Chevy Cobalt XFE. But, the press likes to bash Detroit and portray things in a way that makes them look bad. Just wait for the Chevy Cruze and the Ford Fiesta to kick some more fuel efficiency butt.
    2009 Nov 23 12:03 PM Reply
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  • More knee jerk reaction from Seeking Alpha. As the others have already commented....this ranking format is idiotic. Just another opportunity to jab at the domestic car manufacturers.

    (How did Toyota and Honda do on the 2010 Top Safety picks from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety? Not well. So, where's the sarcastic commentary from Seeking Alpha on this story?)
    2009 Nov 23 01:14 PM Reply
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  • I second tc48374's comment's. Wait until the Fiesta hits this country. Ford stuff is excellent.


    On Nov 23 01:14 PM tc48374 wrote:

    > More knee jerk reaction from Seeking Alpha. As the others have already
    > commented....this ranking format is idiotic. Just another opportunity
    > to jab at the domestic car manufacturers.
    >
    > (How did Toyota and Honda do on the 2010 Top Safety picks from the
    > Insurance Institute for Highway Safety? Not well. So, where's the
    > sarcastic commentary from Seeking Alpha on this story?)
    2009 Nov 24 11:58 AM Reply
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  • You're all missing the point. Overall corporate fuel efficiency translates into overall American fleet efficiency. Most of the folks I know who have large trucks (i.e. Ford Explorer-sized SUVs or F-150-sized trucks) use them for commuting to and from desk jobs, not construction.
    2009 Nov 24 12:28 PM Reply
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  • Ridiculous comparison... did they include Honda motorcycles? Even the headline is misleading, the article is not about vehicle fuel efficiency but about average miles per gallon across all models.
    2009 Nov 24 12:47 PM Reply
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  • And another thing: Honda cars cost more than similarly equipped other brands, which, when you're on a somewhat tight budget should be considered. It takes awhile to make up (with gas mileage) the difference in the price between a Honda Accord and a Ford Fusion.
    2009 Nov 24 11:48 PM Reply