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Explaining Apple's Valuation to the Media

Jan. 04, 2010 4:57 AM ETAAPL, CNBC5 Comments
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Phil Cusick, Managing Director of Mcquarie Research, was a guest on CNBC’s December 30 Power Lunch. The topic was Apple (AAPL), and the prospects for Apple's stock with all of the buzz surrounding the rumored iTablet.

Phil CusickCNBC hosts Simon Hobbs and Michelle Caruso-Cabrera were spoiling for a fight and fired a series of loaded questions suggesting that Apple might not be attractive at the current price ($210 at the time of the interview). Mcquarie Research has a $250 price target for Apple and Phil Cusick likes the value in Apple at the current price.

Simon Hobbs hyperventilated; "That's a hella'va call ($250 target for AAPL) ... 20% upside from here?"

Keeping his cool, Cusick responded:

What really drives this stock is the ability to beat (Street earnings estimates) and force people (analysts) to raise numbers. So we're looking for nearly $12 in earnings (per share) in 2010, and with iTablet you could see another .50 cents to $1.00 in there, and probably a bit more from iPhone as well.

Not ready to listen, Hobbs continued:

The Heard on the Street column in the Wall Street Journal says that buying shares (of AAPL) enthusiastically over the prospects of the iTablet might be putting the Apple cart before the horse ... This is a very expensive stock is it not? ... Thirty (30) times earnings?

The unflappable Cusick patiently explained (what he may have been thinking "read my lips ... I'm going to speak very slowly so you can follow"):

Number one ... we think that revenue is going to grow by 25% in 2010. Number two ... The most important thing to understand is that the GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principals) EPS (earnings per share) that Apple reports are not a real earnings number ... The real number to look at is the NON-GAAP number, which is closer to

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Dan Butterfield is the Managing Editor of iPhonAsia - a website covering iPhone with particular emphasis in China, Japan and Korea. Over the course of his career, Dan has held senior management positions in the securities industry and was responsible for development of Web 2.0 applications sold through national sales channels. Dan is a subject matter expert on the mobile telecom industry in China and is familiar with political and cultural aspects of doing business in Asia. Dan has written numerous articles on mobile telecom in the Pacific Rim and developed friendships with expats, journalists, telecom analysts and app developers across Asia.

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