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Sam Pattanayak - VP of IR

John Swainson - President and CEO

Nancy Cooper - CFO and EVP

Mike Christenson - COO

Analysts

John DiFucci - Bear Stearns

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Bryan McGrath - Credit Suisse

Robert Stimson - WR Hambrecht

Walter Pritchard - Cowen & Company

Philip Olsen - UBS

Eli Lap - Phil and Reed

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CA Incorporated (CA) F2Q07 Earnings Call November 2, 2006 5:00 PM ET

Operator

Good afternoon, my name is Bobbie and I'll be your conference operator. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the CA Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2007 Financial Results Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent background noise. After the speakers' remarks there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Thank you, Mr. Sam Pattanayak, You may begin your conference.

Sam Pattanayak

Thank you operator and good afternoon everyone. This is Sam Pattanayak, Vice President of Investor Relations at CA. The purpose of today's call is to discuss our second quarter fiscal 2007 results. Joining me are John Swainson, our Chief Executive Officer; Nancy Cooper, our Chief Financial Officer and Mike Christenson, our Chief Operating Officer.

As a standard procedure, let me read our Safe Harbor provision. This conference call is being broadcast over the phone and via a live webcast open to all interested parties. All content is a property of CA and is protected by US and international copyright laws and may not be reproduced, transcribed or produced in any way without the express written consent of CA. We consider your continued participation in this call to be consent to our recording.

During this call, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed. Reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in the earnings release and supplemental financial information package, both of which are available on our website at investor.ca.com.

Today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements. Consistent with all of our public statements, there can be no assurances that these forward-looking statements will prove accurate and the actual results could differ materially from forecast and estimates. Please refer to our SEC filings for further elaboration of the risks involved. In accordance with SEC regulations, all featured guidance and material information will be publicly disseminated to any interested party. Now let me turn the call over to John.

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John Swainson

Thank you, Sam. Good afternoon, everyone and thanks for joining us on our second quarter earnings call. You'll hear from Nancy Cooper, our CFO in a few minutes. Mike Christenson, our COO will join us for question and answer. Before Nancy takes you through a detailed review of our financials, let me start by giving you the topline on our performance in the second quarter, and address the challenges we faced in that quarter, the actions we have taken to address them and the outlook for the second half of the fiscal 2007.

So, let's get started. Our second quarter total revenue, GAAP EPS and non-GAAP EPS were at or above our expectations. In the first quarter, bookings and billings were above last year's levels but in the second quarter we made a number of changes to our sales organization which affected our business activity and consequently reduced both our bookings and associated billings. While this lower than anticipated level of bookings and billings hurt our cash flow in the quarter, changes in working capital, including a lower cash collection rate and higher accounts payable dispersements were the primary factors in the decline of our second quarter cash flow from flow operations compared with last year.

We believe that we have addressed the issues that affected our performance in the second quarter and we're confident in our ability to execute in the second half. However, this does have an impact on our full-year outlook for cash flow from operations which will be lower than expected.

As I have said before, we're in a multi year transformation of CA. As part of this process of transformation, we're looking at every aspect of our operations and making changes to our critical business processes. We started to refocus our US sales organization on relationship and solution selling last year and after reviewing the results, decided to accelerate the process and take it worldwide. It will have a short-term impact, but we completed this transition in the second quarter and believe we will see benefits starting immediately. And we're continuing to make significant progress in the other parts of our transformation.

Our development and marketing teams recently launch Unicenter 11 on Microsoft SQL Server database. This marks a significant release of CA's flagship Enterprise Management Solution and combined with the other market-leading products from our recent acquisitions and updates to all of our product family gives us the best product portfolio in CA's history. Second, we're continue to go address CA's need for best-in-class business systems and business processes that will ensure compliance and generate superior business intelligence for our organization. Our ERP implementation is on track. This will be the second quarter with SAP online in North America.

Third, as previously announced our restructuring is well under way and we are on track with our plans to reduce our operating structure and take out cost that we expect to result in a $200 million annualized savings by the end of fiscal 2008. And finally, in the second quarter, we completed a critical step in our transformation, which was the previously mentioned realignment of our sales organization.

Let me take you through some of the highlights of the sales organization change. We more than doubled the number of customer facing sales people to create stronger customer partnerships. This group is focused on selling new solutions to new and existing customers in a more systemic and disciplined way. We've aligned our 1500-plus technical sales organization, around our key growth products and solutions. At the same time we have established a core group of sales people that are exclusively focused on managing, maintaining and renewing our install business and we're focusing our direct sales organization on our 5,000 most important enterprise accounts and covering the balance of the market with our channels organization.

We've simplified our sales commission plan with clear incentives to drive new product sales and renewals. We're making significant investments in sales force training and, finally, we're aligning our marketing resources behind solution sets and key product launches. This sales force realignment was a significant undertaking which we completed in a relatively short period of time in the second quarter and so far the feedback we received from that sales organization has been positive.

Now, let me turn to our share repurchase plan. As you know, in the second quarter, we completed our $1 billion tender offer and repurchased 41.2 million shares, bringing our total share repurchases this year to 51.1 million shares. Nancy is going to provide you with an update of the remaining portion of our share repurchase program in a few minutes.

Let me close with our full-year outlook. Going forward, we continue to be optimistic about the strength of our business. This combined with a great market opportunity and a good environment for software spending makes us confident that we're on track to show good economic performance in the second half of our fiscal year. Our original plan for cash flow from operations from the second half was around $900 million to $1 billion, and that is the level we believe we'll deliver for the full fiscal year. And we expect to meet or exceed our previous outlook for total revenue of $3.9 billion and non-GAAP operating earnings per share of $0.83.

With that I will turn it over to Nancy.

Nancy Cooper

Thanks, John. I'll start by reviewing second quarter financials and then provide you with more details on the restructuring program and outlook. Total revenue in the second quarter was $996 million, up 5% from a year ago, and was primarily driven by the growth in subscription revenue. From a geographic perspective, North American revenue was up 8% and revenue from international operations was up 1%, including about a $15 million benefit from foreign exchange. Second quarter subscription revenue was $762 million, up 8% from a year ago. Subscription revenue accounted for 77% of total revenue in the quarter, compared to 74% in last year's second quarter.

Total expenses for the second quarter were $918 million versus $893 million in the second quarter of 2006. The increase of $25 million was primarily attributable to higher SG&A costs of $42 million, driven principally by expenses associated with personnel cost and recent acquisitions. Remember, that while we take the expenses from our acquired companies in the current period, much of the revenue will be typically deferred over time under our rateable recognition model.

Other expense increases include $15 million from cost of professional services and $5 million from higher royalties and bonuses. These expense increases were partially offset by $23 million in lower amortization and depreciation and a $14 million gain on the sale of marketable securities. GAAP net income was $53 million for the second quarter or $0.09 per diluted common share, compared to net income of $46 million or $0.08 per diluted common share in last year's second quarter. Non-GAAP net income was $145 million for the second quarter or $0.25 per diluted common share, compared to $151 million or $0.25 per diluted common share in last year's second quarter.

A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP results is contained in the earnings press release. Second quarter bookings for total products and services declined 10% to $690 million. A shortfall in bookings relative to last year's second quarter and to our expectations can primarily be attributed to a decision to realign and restructure the sales force to achieve lower cost of sales and higher productivity, and a more disciplined approach on contract renewals.

Direct product bookings declined 13% to $498 million and indirect bookings grew 3% to $75 million. It is important to note, as we've said before, that bookings on a quarterly basis tend to be volatile, and can be significantly affected by many factors, including large transactions. For the first half of fiscal 2007, total bookings of $1.25 billion were flat year-to-year.

We expect to have total bookings to grow on a full year basis. Let me address billing. Billings were 860 million, a decrease of 12% over the 975 million reported in the prior year period. Billings were negatively affected by a lower level of bookings in the second quarter.

For the fiscal first half, billings were relatively flat compared to last year, but below our plan. Additionally, there were no significant differences in the value of large contracts billed upfront in the second quarter when compared with last year's second quarter and in total are less than 5%. Now, I'll turn to the cash flow statement. Second quarter cash flow from operations was $6 million, compared to $299 million in last year's second quarter. For the first half of this fiscal year, cash flow from operations was negative $40 million compared with $392 million generated in the comparable period last year. This reduction in the first half of the year is driven by a number of one-time items which account in total for approximately 70% of the difference.

Now, let me walk you through the significant one-time items. First, an approximate 240 million difference from the prior year's first half is from the change in working capital as we experienced an unanticipated increase in our receivable cycle as well as a reduction in our payable cycle. We expect to return to more normal levels of collections in the second half of the year and we have already invested more into our payables than we had originally intended for the year.

Second, approximately $45 million was related to higher fiscal 2006 commissions paid in fiscal 2007. Third, approximately $36 million was a result of our contribution to our 401-K plan which we historically made in the fourth quarter of the prior year and, finally, approximately $34 million was attributable to higher payments related to restructuring. Partly offsetting those items, we had a 75 million restitution fund payment made in the second quarter last year, which we did not make this year.

Again, these were the cash flow one-timers. The balance of the difference in cash flow in the first half is primarily a result of business operations, including approximately $130 million from an overall higher level of expenses, mostly due to prior-year acquisitions, and the fact that our new restructuring program was only initiated in mid-August. Of course, we had planned for higher bookings in the first half, to cover some of these increased costs and some of the payables.

Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $1.3 billion in cash and equivalents and $2.6 billion of total debt. So, our net debt is 1.3 billion.

Now, let me address the restructuring program we announced during our first quarter conference call. This program is well under way. In the second quarter we recorded restructuring costs of $39 million, relating to approximately 750 positions, of which $11 million was paid in cash during the period. We now anticipate a reduction in the work force of approximately 1400 positions, and also expect to eliminate an additional 300 positions, through attrition. We currently expect total restructuring charges of approximately $150 million, down from our previous estimate of $200 million. Most of these charges will be recognized in fiscal 2007.

Despite the reduction in restructuring charges, we are on track to deliver $200 million in annualized savings by the end of fiscal 2008. Now, I will provide you with the details of our updated outlook for full-year fiscal 2007. We expect to meet or exceed our previous outlook for total revenue of $3.9 billion. We also expect to meet or exceed our previous outlook for non-GAAP operating earnings per share of $0.83. Two points of clarification: this EPS outlook has always included the benefits we expect to realize from 2007, related to a restructuring program of about $30 million. It did not include higher interest expense as well as lower share count from funding our recently completed billion-dollar tender offer which was saluted diluted in '07 but will be accretive in '08.

We expect cash flow from operations of between $900 million to $1 billion, down from the previous outlook of $1.3 billion. The new cash flow outlook includes bookings growth for the full year, although not at the levels originally planned, and an improvement in collections. Furthermore, this outlook includes borrowing costs associated with the tender offer and a payment associated with the 20007 restructuring plan, which was not included in the previous cash flow outlook.

As of today, we also anticipate about $570 million in average diluted share count in fiscal 2007, and a non-GAAP tax rate of 33%. Now, let me address share repurchases. As John said, we completed our billion-dollar tender offer in the second quarter. In total this fiscal year we have repurchased 51.1 million shares at a cost of $1.2 billion, which accounts for a 9% reduction of outstanding shares. Additionally, we anticipate spending about $88 million this year in dividend payments.

With respect to the remaining portion of the share repurchase program, we are exploring options and we will update you on the timing and method at the appropriate time. However, we want to see our performance meeting our expectations, a return to strong cash flows, and favorable market conditions before we move forward. And now with that, I'd like to turn the call back to John.

John Swainson

Thanks, Nancy. Before opening the lines for Q&A, let me summarize the quarter and where we stand in our business. While second quarter total revenue and non-GAAP EPS were on or ahead of plan, we clearly saw an impact on our bookings and cash flow in the second quarter. Our restructuring program is on track. We're taking the steps to realize the $200 million of annualized savings from operational expenses by the end of fiscal 2008, and, finally, we believe our sales related issues are behind us. Our sales organization realignment is complete. As a result we are optimistic in our ability to execute in the second half of the year and furthermore believe we're well positioned to grow in the future. With that, we'll now open the lines for Q&A.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

(Operator Instructions). We will pause for just a moment to compile our Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of John DiFucci with Bear Stearns.

John DiFucci - Bear Stearns

Thank you. Nancy, first question has to do with the remaining $1 billion repurchase. We understand you're exploring options there. But do you still intend to do that by March 31st, which was, I think, the last press release that mentioned it or I believe it was June 30th, it was actually mentioned in the 8-K that actually went out.

Nancy Cooper

John, what I was trying to communicate, we will continue to update you on this business, but at this time exploring options means we can't give you a specific date. Obviously we would like to see our performance return to our expectations on cash flows and favorable market conditions. So, with those three it is hard to pinpoint a date, although you can see that we'll be considering it actively going forward.

John DiFucci - Bear Stearns

Okay. Okay. One other question on the revenues, it sounded -- it looked like international was on a constant currency basis actually down year-over-year. Is there any specific regions that were particularly week internationally?

Nancy Cooper

No, I would say your assessment is right particularly and it is jus slightly down.

John DiFucci - Bear Stearns

Okay. And one last question for John; John, obviously you guys are working through a lot of issues here, and you had the restructuring, you expect that to get full benefit by the end of 2008 but you have talked about how the sales force is righted. I'm just wondering, is this next quarter the quarter where we're going to see a big improvement here over two quarters that are arguably some of the -- couple of the toughest quarters CA has seen in a very, very long time?

John Swainson

I hope so.

John DiFucci - Bear Stearns

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sarah Friar with Goldman-Sachs.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Good afternoon, everyone. Just a quick question again about the restructuring; I think previously you talked about a 1700 labor forced layoff of the $200 million charge, and you seem to have stepped back from that a little bit. Could you just kind of walk through the thinking there, as you started to dig in from a cost cutting perspective? Were there certain areas that you decided you didn't want to cut back on that you wanted to keep investing in?

Nancy Cooper

Sarah, could you just repeat your question? Was it the reduction from 200 to 150?

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Yes, and more of the total head count, because I think previously you talked about 1700 people being laid off and now you're talking about 1400.

Nancy Cooper

Sarah, there really is no change. What we're able to determine that it was much more cost efficient if we were able to do it through attrition and I mentioned we found -- we had identified 300 places of attrition in the company. So, if you add the 300 to the 1400 people we named, you will see we come up to the same number or 1700.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Okay. That's helpful. And then just maintain revenue guidance even with the bookings slightly down, I mean what I understand from that is you obviously think the bookings will come back to being growth in the next two quarters and obviously a little bit higher than even what we've been anticipating, given that most of it, I think we're close to your revenue numbers. Could you just talk us through why you think that starts to improve in December and March and why maintain the revenue guidance, given that the bookings number was a little bit weaker this quarter.

Nancy Cooper

You did hear it correctly. What we were with flat on bookings through the first half and expecting year-over-year growth through the full year. So, yes that would -- that is the assumption of bookings increasing in the second half.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Okay. And then just --

Nancy Cooper

Excuse me, the bookings in the first half were almost 3 billion of bookings.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Sure, sure, I understand. It's just we build it as a rateable model and when it is a little bit below expectations in the quarter, it obviously has a [lethal effect] over the next two. So, obviously you are thinking that you can make that up again. Just then finally, Nancy, on the tax rate, a little bit lower in the quarter, 31% in your guidance with 33, so I think it is a 100 [bits] below what we had before. Is that just your finding ways to make the company more tax efficient, or seeing more revenue come out of lower tax jurisdictions.

Nancy Cooper

I'm -- repeat the question one more time, Sarah, please.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

On the tax rates in the quarter your pro forma tax rate ran around 31% and I think we had been guided to more of a 34% tax rate. I think you said 33 in your guidance. And I'm just wondering what is that that is bringing down the tax rate?

Nancy Cooper

Sarah, as you know as an international company we always have, tax things that end up being advantages for our rate, in the quarter we had one of those, and that helped the quarter and that helps the full year come to the 33%.

Sarah Friar - Goldman Sachs

Okay. That's great. Thanks a lot.

Nancy Cooper

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jason Maynard with Credit Suisse.

Bryan McGrath - Credit Suisse

Hi, it is Bryan McGrath for Jason Maynard. My question is I was wondering, what if anything has changed with regard to the share repurchase kind of intentions, I know you are looking for more favorable market conditions? Can you kind of talk us through what you think has change since you announced this and, just stand on what you mean by favorable market conditions?

John Swainson

The underlying rationale for share repurchase has not changed. Those were, just to remind you from our earlier announcements, that we expected to see a slower pace of acquisition going forward. We have a strong historical set of cash flows, and we have great confidence in the long-term direction and value of CA. So, that remains unchanged. However, I think, as you would appreciate, we need to be prudent, and make sure that we see the outlook that we have forecast here, the returns to cash flows in the second half, and also as has always been part of this program, we want to make sure that we can borrow in the capital markets at the appropriate rates. And so, we will monitor those things very carefully, as Nancy said, and update you when our Board of Directors concludes that the time is favorable for us to do that. I don't think it's anymore complicated than that.

Bryan McGrath - Credit Suisse

Okay. Great. Did the issues with working capital have anything to do with the SAP implementation, or is that kind of fully unrelated?

Nancy Cooper

They are totally unrelated.

Bryan McGrath - Credit Suisse

Thank you.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Stimson with WR Hambrecht.

Robert Stimson - WR Hambrecht

Hi, good evening. Can you guys just help me with one of the comments you made in your note was, you guys talked about some of the renewal processes and some of the new processes that would have to be put in place regarding renewals and the booking process. Can you elaborate on what that meant and kind of what new processes need to be put in place versus what the old processes were and what you're looking for to get probably, I guess some better accounting out of those numbers going forward?

Mike Christenson

I'll take that question, Robert. What we did in the realignment of the sales organization is, we had a group of business managers in our field organization that had a lot of responsibilities, one of which was managing and monitoring the renewals of our contracts, our license agreements in the portfolio. In the realignment we have freed up a substantial number of those people from all of their other responsibilities and focused them solely on our renewal business. So, our goal there, as you know, we have a substantial software portfolio deployed with our customers, and it is important to us to renew that at the maximum rate and we've dedicated people to that responsibility. It is just a clarifying of their duties and making sure that we maximize that value.

Robert Stimson - WR Hambrecht

Is there a little bit different incentive on renewal, obviously in the commission side versus "new business" and kind of how you reincentivize them to deal with that issue.

Mike Christenson

Yes, the account directors are compensated on the sale of new software. The business managers, who are responsible for the renewal of the portfolio, are only compensated on the renewal rate. So, we've simplified the metrics for both of them and clarified their responsibilities. Within the field, there are obviously managers who those two groups of people report to, who are responsible for just making sure that we do the right thing for the customer, the right thing for CA, so there is someone out there looking after both businesses. But at the front line, we've divided that responsibility and clarified the incentives for those people. And we think that will be better service for our customers and better value for CA from our portfolio.

Robert Stimson - WR Hambrecht

Great, thanks a lot.

John Swainson

This is John. One more point and you'll forgive me for being slightly anal on this but you used you used the 'a' word, you said accounting, and I want to stress that this has nothing to do with accounting; this has to do with maximizing our revenue long-term. It comes out of this portfolio of contracts.

Robert Stimson - WR Hambrecht

Yes.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Walter Pritchard.

Walter Pritchard - Cowen & Company

Hi, John or Nancy, I'm wondering if you could just, when you, business conditions, three months ago or six months ago led to you want to cut costs or I guess cut about 200 million expenses or about 1700 people and given that the topline seems to be weaker than it was anticipated at that point; just trying to get a feeling for how willing you are to take further costs out, if indeed the top line doesn't recover in the second half of the year and even given the weakness that you've seen here in the last three months.

Nancy Cooper

Let me just Walter clarify, actually the topline was strong, if you mean revenue this quarter. We grew 5% and booking were actually flat. They were below our expectations but they were flat. With that said, we will always be looking at more efficient ways to run this company. We've indicated our interests of getting out 200 million in costs by the end of 2008 and I will tell you we will continue to look at the right way to run the company.

Walter Pritchard - Cowen & Company

One follow up related to that in products. I would imagine, we don't have all the detail on the profitability by product line, but I would imagine there is some pretty dark disparity between the profitability. I'm just wondering, also, your willingness to looking at shedding products or focusing toward more on maybe a subset of products that will deliver higher profitability and may not distract if that is an issue of people from those core areas.

Mike Christenson

I'll take that again. It is Mike Christenson, Walter. I think that it is fair to say that there is a group of products in the portfolio that we're not emphasizing with the sales force. We have a set of solutions that drive our new sales business to existing customers as well as new customers, and, those are organized around, call it a dozen important solution sets and that is what we emphasize. The other products are in the portfolio, they're important to our customers. We, support them in the development organization and we support them with our support organization. And we'll continue to do that, because it is important to our customers. It is highly unlikely that you'll see anything coming out of the portfolio, the way we sold Ingres earlier in the year. That was a unique set of circumstances that I don't anticipate will be repeated.

John Swainson

Let me go a little further. I mean, like any large software company, we have a portfolio, as Mike has indicated, of fast growing things in which we are investing a lot of money and more slowly things that we are yielding a lot of money from. Our attempt is to keep managing that as a portfolio and not shed things on either side. In fact, we would like to have more fast-growing things and like to have more things that throw out a lot of cash.

Walter Pritchard - Cowen & Company

Great. Thanks very much.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Philip Olsen with UBS.

Philip Olsen - UBS

Hi, two quick questions; first in terms of the tender offer, is it fair to assume that it was largely financed on the cash on hand and the existing bank capacity and as it pertains to the bank debt, what is your plan to look at, just maybe the capital market to term out some of that debt.

Nancy Cooper

Phil, your assumption is right. We had always looked at both sources of funding and, you know, in terms of the, what are we doing with the credit line; we always look at what is the optimal way to fund ourselves. So, both are yes, but we have no definitive things to tell you right now.

Philip Olsen - UBS

And just, I guess if I could squeeze in one more question. Does the kind of the somewhat different language with respect to the share repurchase program, should we infer from that that you're confidence in the second half outlook is lower now than what your confidence in the full-year outlook was when you implemented the share repurchase.

John Swainson

No, you should just infer that we didn't do as well in the first half as we expected, and my friend, the CFO here, is being prudent and making sure that we deliver on the second half before we commit ourselves more fully.

Philip Olsen - UBS

Great. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Your last question comes from the line of [Eli Lap with Phil and Reed].

Eli Lap - Phil and Reed

Yeah, actually this maybe a little bit of a follow-up to the prior question. One is, could you give us, maybe milestones or guide posts for what you're looking for to reinstate the buyback and then sort of a comment/question about your favorable rates in the capital markets, and from what I can tell, your rates are probably the lowest they've been in six months. So, I'm not quite sure, what you mean by that.

Nancy Cooper

We tried to give you how we were thinking about the second share repurchase and I think that's about all the factors we can give at this time. In terms of the drawing down on the credit line, what I was trying to say was that we will always looking at efficient ways to do our capital structure, and we'll continue to look at those.

Eli Lap - Phil and Reed

Right. But when you mentioned favorable rates, aren't your rates extremely favorable now in terms of where they were in the past at least six months, if not year?

Nancy Cooper

Yes, I mean the rates are better now. But that's not to say that we're going to do something just because the rates are better now.

Eli Lap - Phil and Reed

I see. So you're talking about the combination of the rates and --

John Swainson

It is an 'And' not an 'Or.'

Eli Lap - Phil and Reed

Okay, thank you.

Nancy Cooper

Thank you.

Operator

Now at this time, I'd like to turn it back over to our host for any closing remarks.

John Swainson

Well, thanks all of you very much again. We're confident in the direction of this business. Even though we didn’t generate as much cash in the quarter as we had expected to, but we made the changes necessary and we believe that in the second half we can fulfill these commitments. Thank you all very much.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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