Winnebago's CEO Discusses F2Q2014 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

Mar.27.14 | About: Winnebago Industries, (WGO)

Winnebago Industries, Inc. (NYSE:WGO)

F2Q 2014 Results Earnings Conference Call

March 27, 2014 10:00 AM ET

Executives

Sheila Davis - Public Relations and IR Manager

Randy Potts - Chairman, President and CEO

Sarah Nielsen - Vice President and CFO

Analysts

Alvin Concepcion - Citigroup Global Markets

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

David Whiston - Morningstar

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to the Quarter Two 2014 Winnebago Earnings Conference Call. My name is Sheila, and I will be your operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of this conference. (Operator Instructions)

As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would like to turn the call over to Sheila Davis, Winnebago Industries Public Relations and Investor Relations Manager. Please proceed, ma’am.

Sheila Davis

Thank you, Sheila. Good morning. And welcome to Winnebago Industries conference call to review the company's results for the second quarter of fiscal 2014 ended March 1, 2014. Conducting the call today are Randy Potts, Chairman of the Board, Chief Executive Officer and President; and Sarah Nielsen, Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

The news release with our earnings results was posted to our website earlier this morning. This call is being broadcast live on our website at www.wgo.net/investor.html, and a replay of the call will be available on our website at approximately 1 o’clock p.m. Central Daylight Standard Time today. If you have any questions about accessing any of this information, please call our Investor Relations Department at (641) 585-6803 following the conference call.

This presentation may contain certain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Investors are cautioned that forward-looking statements are inherently uncertain.

A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from these statements. These factors are identified in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission over the last 12 months, copies of which are available from the SEC or from the company upon request.

I'll now turn the call over to Randy Potts. Randy?

Randy Potts

Thank you, Sheila. We are very pleased to announce that second quarter year-over-year results are greatly improved despite the extremely challenging weather conditions that we faced.

To satisfy our motorized backlog, we had scheduled four additional production days during the normal Christmas and New Year's shutdown. The severe weather, however, caused multiple work delays and closures at both our Iowa and Indiana facilities, which led to the loss of several production days and other inefficiencies.

Also related to weather were complications with incoming and outgoing materials, as well as higher expenses related to utilities. So while we had substantial volume and revenue growth in the second quarter, the weather-related inefficiencies and expenses did put pressure on our margin growth.

I’d be remised if I didn’t take this opportunity to point out how extremely hard our dedicated employees worked to overcome these challenges, thus ensuring a very successful quarter. I’d like to thank them for their commitment particularly over the holiday season.

Looking ahead, we remained enthusiastic about our near and long-term outlook. First, retail registrations as measured by our systems grew nearly 20% year-over-year in the second quarter within both motorized and towable. Second, we are seeing success relative to our company’s multitude of ongoing product enhancements and new floorplans.

And last, we received great reception from our dealers for our new products the Trend and Viva!, which are the first Class C’s to market built on the Ram ProMaster chassis and the Travato which is the first Class B to market on the Ram ProMaster chassis.

Since these products largely begin shipping during the second quarter. We believe we will see higher volumes of them in the second half of this year as they gain traction in the retail market. Based on these developments, we are optimistic regarding our long-term opportunity for continued growth.

We are also extremely enthusiastic about our forthcoming Dealer Days event in April in Las Vegas, that’s in the middle of April on the 14th and 16th. There we will host hundreds of our dealer partners and we’ll unveil several exciting products, which we are confident will be incremental to our current business. Unfortunately, I can’t share anymore details with you now, but rest assured that we will be sharing all the details of these exciting new products in just a few weeks.

As we discussed last quarter, growth at Winnebago has prompted us to expand to a production facility in Lake Mills, Iowa, not too far from our headquarters. I'm pleased to report that the expansion is progressing as planned with initial employees hired, training taking place and the production line up and running.

We anticipate shipping product from this facility in our third quarter. This is an important step in our growth phase as this new facility allows us to move our Class B production from its current Charles City location to Lake Mills. This expands our capacity in our Charles City plant for additional subassembly production.

Strength and marketplace acceptance of our brands is paramount to the future success of our company. On that front, we are extremely proud to once again announce that Winnebago has been recognized by statistical surveys as the number one selling motorhome brand for 2013.

In fact, Winnebago has received this outstanding recognition every year since 1974. Keeping this distinguish title is not easy and it’s a testimony to the company's constant innovation, manufacturing expertise and strong dealer network.

Finally, as we announced this morning, we’ve made substantial share repurchases during the quarter, leading to approximately 616,000 shares repurchased through our current Board authorized program.

With that, I'll let Sarah review our key business and financial highlights during the second quarter. Sarah?

Sarah Nielsen

Thanks, Randy. The second quarter of fiscal 2014 marked Winnebago’s highest level of revenues since the fourth quarter of fiscal 2007. This is very encouraging to us as the second quarter is typically our lowest revenue quarter.

The primarily driver of improved revenue was motorized volume growth of nearly 45% and interestingly to know almost 22% of our second quarter shipment were products not available at this time last year. Such as a lower price point Class A diesel products, Forza and Solei, and our Class C and B products, Trend, Viva! and Travato and the new Ram ProMaster chassis.

Our motorized volume growth was partially offset by lower ASPs of 9.8% due to the popularity of these newly developed products. Specifically, looking at our ASPs year-over-year, I will briefly highlight the key changes.

In the second quarter, Class A gas was 94,188, up 2% compared to last year. Class A diesel was 175,115, which is almost 17% below last year and significantly influenced by the demand of our newer lower price point products.

Class C was 71,075, which is almost 5% lower than last year and also influenced by the shipments of the Trend and Viva! products. Our Class B was 68,797, a decrease of about 12% as a result of our Travato sales, so from a total motorized ASP in aggregate we have an ASP of 100,566 this quarter, which is a decline of almost 10% over last year.

Moving over to the towable products, ASPs year-over-year, travel trailers were 19,380 which is down 1.5% from last year. However, our fifth wheels were 42,640, an increase of nearly 40% and influenced by shipments of our new Winnebago Destination fifth wheel. In total, all towable ASPs in aggregate was 23,911, up over 9% this quarter.

In light of such strong motorized shipments, this quarter we did see our dealer inventory increased significantly compared to last year. The increase level of our dealer inventory is in part a result of the strong demand of our new product offering as many of our dealers received our initial stocking of this product during the quarter.

We believe that these innovative products will generate additional retail demand in the coming quarters. Moreover we have expanded our points of distribution for these new product offerings in the past year as our dealer locations have increased 12% which is another factor contributing to our dealer inventory growth.

Moving to gross margins, the company showed a 30-basis point improvement in the second quarter as compared to last year. Key margin drivers are as follows, variable costs as a percentage of revenues increased year-over-year about 40 basis points, driven by weather-related production inefficiencies and a temporary outsourcing program related to our metal stamping need.

Due to our rapid growth, we are investing in additional metal stamping equipment. However because of long lead times, we do not expect to have this new equipment operational until the fourth quarter. As a result, we established a temporary component outsourcing program during the second quarter to meet the needs of our higher volume.

This further underscores the margin expansion opportunities that our vertical integration provides and we look forward to having this equipment operational. Meanwhile although fixed overhead as a percentage of revenues improved 70 basis points, we experienced increased weather-related costs including higher utilities which offset the improvement.

In summary, we estimate that gross margin was impacted by approximately 20 basis points due to the temporary cost component outsourcing program and by just under 20 points due to the higher utility expenses. And while the weather impact is difficult to quantify, we did face inefficiencies and higher expenses which limited our gross margin expansion for the second quarter.

However total operating expenses were leveraged during the quarter and contributed 50 basis points to the operating income improvement despite having cost related to the Louisville show in fiscal 2014 second quarter, which were not present in last year's second quarter.

Moving to operating cash flow, as mentioned in our release, the second quarter was impacted by a receivables increase of approximately $27 million. The harsh winter weather conditions caused significant destructions to our independent transportation company, which prevented them from delivering product timely to our dealers and as a result increased our receivables. We anticipate positive operating cash flow in the third quarter as those receivables are reduced.

As we announced previously and reiterated in our release this morning, in our third quarter we will deliver approximately 500 rental units to Apollo Motorhome Holidays, a U.S. RV rental company that principally rents to foreign customers through a strong network of international travel agencies. We are very excited about partnering with Apollo and increasing our participation in the rental market.

To secure an order of this magnitude, we contractually agreed to repurchase our two-thirds of the unit at specified prices of rental use provided certain conditions are met. Therefore only one-third of that order will be reported as typical motorhome sales during the third quarter.

The other two-thirds of the units, which are subject to the repurchase options will be accounted for as an operating need similar to how the automotive industry treats vehicle sales to daily rental car company. Estimated lease revenue will be recorded ratably over the period that Apollo holds the unit based on the difference between net sales proceeds and the repurchase obligation.

We anticipate repurchasing the rental units in the first quarter of our fiscal 2015 and our plan is to immediately resolve them into the marketplace. As a result, only one-third of these units are reported in our order backlog at the end of the second quarter.

Moving to backlog, our motorized backlog stood at 2900 units at the end of second quarter of 5.4% versus a year ago but down sequentially. On a dollar basis, our motorized backlog at the end of the quarter totaled $260.1 million and applies an AFP of just under $90,000, a result of the higher percentage of new products ordered with lower AFPs coupled with a greater than historical level of rental units.

We believe our motorized backlog level continues to be robust and is driven by overall growth of the RV industry, positive dealer response, our increased retail registration as well as the new product that we've introduced. However we are still at a point where we are unable to ship our order backlog within a quarter, part of which is still due to the Class A Ford chassis shortage.

Based on our discussions with Ford, we are scheduled to receive an increased level of Chassis during the third quarter which will allow us to increase production rates inside the quarter. However, through March, we have not yet received adequate supply to initiate higher production rate.

Lastly, we continue to see robust demand for our products, not only in motorized but also in towables where we experience both an increase in revenues and a profit contribution for the quarter as compared to an operating loss last year.

With that, can you please open the line for questions at this time, Sheila?

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) The first question comes from the line of Alvin Concepcion of Citigroup Global Markets. Please proceed.

Alvin Concepcion - Citigroup Global Markets

Thank you, and good morning. It sounded like the operating margins were pretty impressive. I think they were trending around 6.2% if you net out weather, outsourcing and the real estate gain. And if that’s true, that’s some of the highest profitability you’ve had since I think 2005 in this quarter. So I’m wondering if there is anything else that was more temporary in nature to margins or is that trend sustainable.

Sarah Nielsen

Well, we definitely highlighted some of the challenges and experience inside the quarter, but on the positive side with the added revenue and production volumes, that has continued to provide opportunity for us to reduce our fixed cost as a percentage. So I think we really did cover the key items that were unique in nature to try to quantify and separate those. And we’re excited about the future.

Randy Potts

We highlighted what were kind of the extraordinary items. I think the most predominant thing that we will always face us the effect of model mix and quarter-to-quarter that will -- always has been an impact and will continue to be, but I think the general trend is real and supportable.

Alvin Concepcion - Citigroup Global Markets

That’s great to hear. And you mentioned you were optimistic about growth in the motorized division, obviously retail sales are supporting that view. But just wondering what else is driving that confidence and how much of an impact do you think weather has had on retail trends to-date?

Randy Potts

Yes. We get asked a lot about the impact of weather on the retail business, and it’s just -- it’s very hard to really draw any conclusions on that. I’m sure it has an impact. I’d like to think that the impact just delays a purchase that doesn’t cancel it, because this isn’t something you just decide to do to purchase a new RV one day and not the next, but there is other reasons to be optimistic. Sarah did mention that our Towables operation is performed in the black for the quarter, and we’re working very hard as we said every quarter to get that on the right track, and we’re certainly seeing signs of that.

Alvin Concepcion - Citigroup Global Markets

Great. And just one more for me. Just wondering how you feel about dealer inventory levels in motor homes, maybe you could talk about it on a per dealer basis or in terms of inventory turns, just wondering your level of comfort within today.

Randy Potts

Well, those are kind of the common statistics, but Sarah has some other stats she can embellish that with that. We don’t normally use that. I think we shed some good light on this.

Sarah Nielsen

Well, we definitely have a significant amount of opportunity with the added level of dealer inventory to see that positively impact retail on a go-forward basis. So much of what we delivered had never been in the marketplace before with our dealers, and so they are going to create new turns or added turns both on a prospective basis. We’ve been adding locations as well in light of new product offerings. And on a year-over-year basis, as I mentioned, that was approximately 12%.

So that you asked a good question, because it’s a function too of how much dealer has across the country. And we think there are still continued opportunities because we have so much that some of our dealers don’t have a lot on their lot yet of the new items. But the second quarter was disrupted a little bit by weather. So the product wasn’t reaching the dealers as timely as we would have liked, and you saw that on our balance sheet and receivables.

So there is an element too where there hadn’t been really a lot of time for any of that to flow through and it wasn’t the season for a lot of people to be interested in being on a (indiscernible) lot in some of the areas of the country or many areas of the country. But those will be probably my key points in relation to dealer inventory, that’s the highlight.

Alvin Concepcion - Citigroup Global Markets

All right. That’s very helpful. Thank you very much.

Randy Potts

You are welcome.

Operator

Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Craig Kennison of Robert W. Baird. Please proceed.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Okay. Thanks. I assume you can hear me?

Sarah Nielsen

Yes, we can.

Randy Potts

We can, Ken.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Great. So, I wanted to follow-up on the last response, Sarah. It seems like a very interesting bump in the number of distribution point. Could you talk about what you are doing internally or what factors are driving the growth in distribution?

Sarah Nielsen

Well, we want to look at the new product offerings that we are launching in the marketplace to have adequate cover. So that’s a key part of it. But I need Randy to share a little thoughts on that.

Randy Potts

Well, I think a really good part of it, and what Sarah mentioned is huge. But another big part it is, Scott Degnan in his leadership of sales and marketing has really put an emphasis on plugging holes out there in the marketplace, filling open points and he has directed his organization to be a lot more aggressive towards filling open points and that’s a big part of their numbers.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Is it equal on the motorhome and towable side or it’s just been driven by one of those categories?

Randy Potts

Dealerships. Towables has just even more opportunities, but that’s such a young and mature organization for us, we’d expect that. Our motorized dealer base is very, very established and so, Scott has just really put a lot of effort towards identifying what we might have viewed as really smaller opportunities in the past. He is capitalizing on those. He has directed his groups to capitalize on those and I think they will find more.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

You displacing other brands at these dealerships, are there new dealerships kind of springing up from what?

Randy Potts

It’s all of the above, Craig. It’s never a quite the same scenario. Sometimes it’s new dealerships, sometimes -- it’s very scenario you can imagine.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Okay. And then wanted to follow-up on your retail, which was much stronger than we anticipated. I think you said around 20%. As you know, the industry source here had you for the first two months down about 4%. There is often variation between your results and what the industry source would indicate but that’s a huge gap. Any explanation for why your retail looks so much better?

Randy Potts

Well, our retail events and they separate out a lot of things and it comes on a different times. They separate United States, Canada, events from the other RV market. That’s confusing to start with and it all comes out on different times and people run with the first numbers that come out. And they are the first to say that their numbers are incomplete and then it seems that the follow-up that they have when they do fill in the holes never really gets much attention. It’s just the initial announcement that gets the attention. That’s my take, Craig. I can’t speak for them as to why things don’t match up. But we watch our retail registration numbers.

Sarah Nielsen

Yeah. We are looking at it on a daily basis because it’s the key trigger for the warranty to start and so we are looking at wanting that registration that happened as a point of sale. It’s a constant management process and follow-up. And then we also have the opportunity to validate on dealer inventory information when our DMs are on site at the dealership. We do work closely with respect to survey to exchange information and when we look at it on a rolling 12-months basis, there is not significant variance but in any particular month, there can be.

Randy Potts

I think it’s a snapshot.

Sarah Nielsen

And it can go both ways. I mean, we can have information more timely than they might, but there are instances where sometimes they have information more timely than what we do. We are also working with all the flooring institutions to exchange information on retail registration. So we try to validate that data in many different ways but it’s critical for us to understand our dealer inventory and retail is a key driver of reducing or increasing or dealer inventory. So we will continue to track it and report it from our own internal system. But I understand the question because it’s a bit confusing to what external data point you would have available to you.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Yeah. Thank you. That helps. And then maybe I’ll finish with just more questions on this repurchase agreement. Can you share with us any details on the terms of your rental repurchase agreement and then maybe comment a little more on how we should see that flow through the income statement from, I guess a revenue and profit standpoint?

Sarah Nielsen

Yeah. This is an arrangement that’s very typical on other industries that near for the RV industry on a public company basis potentially to be talking about the specifics. In general, we are delivering all the units just on a normal course here on the third quarter. So we will be paid in the normal cost upfront. But on two-thirds of the order, we have an obligation at subsidized price to repurchase it back, assuming certain mileage and other conditions are met. And we anticipate that to happen in the September through December timeframe. I think primarily this will be Q1 and we are working to collaborate with Apollo to have basically places for that product to go after the rental season is over and very close to where those units are at, so they don’t make their way back up to Iowa. And from the standpoint of how that two-thirds will flow through the income statements, we are required to record that as an operating lease and so you have estimated lease revenue being recorded on a ratable basis over the timeframe, so it’s a very different process.

We will be having some footnotes and added disclosure on this in our Qs as the transaction flows through, because probably the oddest element of this is it’s going to be a retail registration for us, but it will never be illustrated in dealer inventory or in our wholesale numbers for a portion of the order.

But when you amortize it into the financials on a straight-line basis it becomes less of a significant number in a particular quarter and it won’t happen in the third quarter, because the holding period will be really in quarters four and one. But those I guess the key components of how that will work.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

So just a follow-up. So next quarter presumably, you would book one-third of 500 or about a 167 units as been shipped. Would you then also book essentially 500 units being retail so you would kind of get credit for all 500 at retail?

Sarah Nielsen

Yeah. So all be retail registered, I don’t know if the retail registration will completely take place inside of the third quarter. But they should all be retail registered, I would think by June. So yes, that will create some just very interesting dynamics to the P&L. But if we look at the transaction on the economic basis, that’s how we evaluated the opportunity. We’re pretty excited on working with Apollo and having our product more fully represented in the market on a rental side. But it is going to create some just odd kind of flow through as it relates to the typical sale of a unit.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

And do you plan to sort of breakout the unit impact so that we can adjust our inventory in retail and shipment numbers?

Sarah Nielsen

Yes, we will. That was our older data, the upfront, and just highlight and be transparent as it flows through the financials.

Randy Potts

Is that clear, Craig?

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

It is clear. And I appreciate that. We have a model that tries to forecast where inventory should be and this has the potential to create 500 retail units and only a 167 shipments and it would kind of [recap on our] (ph) model unless we have the details.

Sarah Nielsen

Yes.

Randy Potts

Yes. So we want to make sure we’re clear on that. We’re trying to make it as clear and simple as we can, but if it’s not, we need the questions to be asked.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Yes. Great.

Sarah Nielsen

To be fair on the balance sheet side, this will be represented as an obligation until we do in fact repurchase the units, so there will be some items on the balance sheet that you’ll see flow through, but again, will be very clear on all the pieces of it. And this is all prospective and forward-looking in nature. It doesn’t affect us here at the end of the second quarter. Except as I highlighted, these orders are not in our backlog as reported today because we won’t be recognizing the revenue on those particular units.

Craig Kennison - Robert W. Baird

Very helpful. Thank you very much.

Randy Potts

You are welcome.

Sarah Nielsen

Thanks.

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of Morris Ajzenman of Griffin Securities. Please proceed.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

Hi, guys.

Sarah Nielsen

Good morning.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

Hi. Question again with the retail registration industry sales, again retail registration is up about 20%. The best I can make it with from the SSI stats in the retail sales. I don’t hold a complete data, but I think it’s running up about half year range for the quarter, I’m not really sure if that’s correct, I think that is ballpark. So what I take from that is on the positive side, the borrowing share, but on the side of the glass being half empty, retail sales for the industry is rising lot less than the overall dealer inventory rising. Is there any concern on your part that? And again you touched on whether it’s really a full impact, but that this might be an indicator of industry sales haven’t been slowed down. Any take on that?

Randy Potts

Well, I think we’re all looking to the spring selling season to tell us where this market goes. There’s no denying that there has to be sell through of this product that’s been wholesaled. I think it’s a simple as that. It is real that a lot of our dealer inventory increase is products. I mean that simply weren’t on the market, weren’t on dealers lots in the last spring/summer selling season. So just the effect of all these things, the additional dealers points we have, the new products that are our there that weren’t before, the availability of certain models that we’re short in supply of last year, that will be out there. This year, we’re going to have to see if that how it all works out. So like you said, glass half full/half empty, time will tell which one it is.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

Okay. Fair enough. And in past quarters, when towable wasn’t doing so well, that it’s going that great, but it’s doing better, you broke up the operating loss. Can you breakout the operating profit for this quarter versus last year loss?

Sarah Nielsen

Yes. So last year it was a sizable loss and we definitely spent some time talking about that on our call a year ago. We lost approximately $850,000 in the quarter, just reported our operating income was approximately $50,000. So, we were very happy to have a black quarter and to see that growing the revenue stream, revenue was up approximately 15% and we're seeing part of that a function of shipments and part of that ASP growth with fifth wheel offerings, gaining some traction in the marketplace. So it's a good comp and a good trend, but we're focused on day-by-day making progress and having just be sustainable going forward.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

My last question and I'll get back in queue. Do you want to give us any sort of projection where -- what do we now, half way through this fiscal year and what you think the free cash flow could be for entire year?

Sarah Nielsen

Well, definitely a key part of -- the use of cash, we -- I commented on it, did well, there has been the impacts inside of this most recently reported quarter was a growth in the receivables. When you look at from our thoughts on a full year basis, we have opportunities to generate operating cash flow in relation to movements and both receivables and to a lesser degree in the inventory categories because we didn't have a significant movement in inventories inside the quarter, but we've been building product to shift for the rental, this is our big rental shipments quarter and quarter three. So we have an opportunity to improve upon what we have reported a year ago from an operating or free cash flow standpoint.

Now we did comment on the use of cash in some of our other areas. When you look at investing and financing, we've spent more and continue to plan to spend more on CapEx reinvesting into the business. So that is going to be at a higher level in the last six months for the year than it was in the first six months and definitely up over last year and we have been more active on the stock repurchase front. So we are using that cash that we plan to generate from operating activities and some other areas.

Morris Ajzenman - Griffin Securities

Thank you.

Sarah Nielsen

You're welcome.

Operator

Thank you. There are no more questions at this time. (Operator Instructions) And the next question comes from the line of David Whiston of Morningstar. Please proceed.

David Whiston - Morningstar

Good morning. Can you hear me?

Randy Potts

Yes.

Sarah Nielsen

Yes.

Randy Potts

Good morning to you.

David Whiston - Morningstar

Good morning. Just wanted to follow up on the last comment by Sarah on the share buybacks. Given that, it sounds like you are going to have a lot of favorable cash inflow in our current quarters. Are you looking to be much more aggressive with buybacks for the rest of the fiscal year where you’ve perhaps held back in the last quarter?

Sarah Nielsen

Well, we definitely were more active in the second quarter than we have been in the first. We’ll continue to evaluate that. As I mentioned, we do have some planned CapEx set at a higher level that we will be using on cash flow. But at this point, we will just continue to evaluate based on those parameters we've been following in the first six months. So we have an established grid and we incorporate our view on the future into that mix but it is also continued on the other uses of what our cash could be invested in.

But -- so I don't have any specific items to announce on that front, but we still have 18.4 remaining on the authorization that we've been repurchasing under. So there is availability yet if we choose to repurchase more shares.

Randy Potts

We did invest almost $16 million in the second quarter.

David Whiston - Morningstar

Great. And this maybe a bit early but do you think higher CapEx spend is going to continue next fiscal year?

Sarah Nielsen

Yes, that is a bit early. We have some pretty sizable things that we've been working and planning on. So I think 2014 is a bigger year.

Randy Potts

I can't think of any reasons '15 would be bigger than '14.

Sarah Nielsen

No, that’s there.

Randy Potts

But it would probably -- it would be up from where we've been in the last five years.

David Whiston - Morningstar

Okay, that's very helpful. Thank you.

Sarah Nielsen

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. There are no more questions. I'd like to turn the call over to Randy for closing remarks.

Randy Potts

Okay, thank you. We're very proud of our performance in the second quarter especially in light of the many challenges we discussed. We also have a lot of opportunities ahead of us and we're excited to introduce the newest products to our dealers in Las Vegas in just a couple of weeks. Thank you everybody for joining our call today. We look forward to speaking with you again when we report our third quarter conference call at our third quarter fiscal call for the results on Thursday, June 26th.

Operator

Thank you for participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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