Today is the second day of our coverage of the Value Investing Congress including presentations from Kyle Bass (Hayman Capital), David Einhorn (Greenlight Capital), and Mohnish Pabrai (Pabrai Investment Funds). Their latest ideas are outlined below and be sure to check back frequently as we will be updating this post throughout the day.
We've already posted a wealth of information from the event, including:
Presentations from John Burbank, Lee Ainslie, & Francisco Parames
Further notes from day 1 of the Congress
Let's now dive right into day two's presentations from the Value Investing Congress:
David Einhorn ~ Greenlight Capital
Three years ago, Einhorn pitched a short of Lehman Brothers at the Value Investing Congress. We all know how that turned out. This year, he doled out his latest short sale: A 139-slide presentation against the St. Joe Company (NYSE:JOE). In essence, Einhorn believes Joe's whole portfolio of land is incredibly overvalued. He joked that he'd be wrong if JOE discovers oil on its land. After news got out of Einhorn's short, shares of St. Joe plunged more than 9%.
He highlights that the company should have impairments from its riverfront properties but that it has taken none. JOE is counting untouched land as 'developed'. He believes St. Joes's rural land is worth somewhere around $900 million, or between $7-10 per share (JOE shares are currently trading in the low $20's). Einhorn argues that if the company continues current practices, it will eventually be worth $0 in 10-15 years.
In his presentation, the Greenlight Capital fund manager went through specific properties of JOE. He highlighted Windmark Phase II which JOE carries as $165 million on its 10K while Einhorn argues its only worth $18 million or so. He also believes an impairment should be taken on St. Joe's Rivertown property that is selling lots below cost. Overall, he takes issue with the fact that St. Joe only writes down an investment when it exits it.
Market Folly readers will recall that Bruce Berkowitz (Fairholme Fund) is on the other side of this trade, long the stock. And 'long' is an understatement; he owns almost 29% of JOE. In the question and answer session, Einhorn mentioned that he reached out to Berkowitz but is awaiting his response. Berkowitz started buying JOE in late 2007 and purchased additional shares in February 2009. This is the beauty of markets and the dichotomy of opinion. For a counter-argument, we've also posted up the bullish case for St. Joe from Broyhill's Affinity hedge fund.
Lastly, in Einhorn's Q&A session, he said he is excited about Vodafone (NASDAQ:VOD) and that the market is still not giving the company credit for its stake in Verizon (NYSE:VZ) Wireless. We've previously covered Einhorn's Vodafone thesis here.
Kyle Bass ~ Hayman Capital
Bass' presentation, 'Does Debt Matter?' is by far the gloomiest of all the speakers thus far. He immediately cites the high levels of U.S. credit market debt and not only the staggering amount of unemployment, but the fact that we are seeing permanent job loss. Bass notes that there's now $200 trillion in total credit debt throughout the world and this amount has tripled over the past 8 years.
He is very concerned about Ireland and says it is very likely to default. Bass is also 100% certain that Japan will default. It's not a matter of 'if', but 'when.' In fact, we've covered how Bass is betting against Japanese Government Bonds (JGBs). Bass mentioned that he is using out of the money interest rate call options to play the potential (or in his mind, inevitable) Japanese default. Should he be correct, he will make 50x to 100x his original investment.
Additionally, Bass says Greece and Iceland are the two other countries in peril here. Greece's default is inevitable and people's reaction will be to buy U.S. dollars. Lastly, the Hayman Capital manager shifted his focus to Australia where he believes the country is due for a housing crisis.
Mohnish Pabrai ~ Pabrai Investment Fund
Pabrai's presentation centered on his 'checklist,' a system of questions/guidelines on how to approach an investment. Pabrai's presentation at the Value Investing Congress West back in May also focused on his checklist. Pabrai will tell you about the checklist, why he created it, and how you can create your own. However, he seemingly does not tell you what is on his checklist as he must regard it as proprietary.
He says the best way to craft an investment checklist is to look at crashes and hone in on others mistakes. By learning from them, you can ensure you don't make the same ones. His checklist is an ongoing process and he's had around 97 questions on the list broken down into categories such as management, ownership, moat, and leverage. While no company can give him the green light by successfully answering all 97 questions, it helps him decide how he should allocate position sizes. This has led to a change in his portfolio allocations. He was previously more concentrated and now is more diversified. A 2% position is a basket trade, a 5% bet is baseline, and a 10% position would be considered a 'home run.'
In his presentation this time around, Pabrai addressed the mistakes that famous value investors have made in order to learn from them. Currently, he is seeing opportunity in Japan and he's building a basket of high quality Japanese stocks. It's interesting to see Bass pound the table on Japan's demise one minute, and the next to see Pabrai recommending the country. Lastly, Pabrai echoed the sentiment from Tuesday's presenter Zeke Ashton as he also likes Fairfax Financial (OTCPK:FRFHF). For more from this value investor and Warren Buffett emulator, we've highlighted notes from Pabrai's annual meeting as well.
Michael Kao ~ Akanthos Capital Management
Kao invests across the capital structure including equity and debt. While he usually takes around 40 positions, his top ten positions typically comprise up to 50% of his portfolio. Giving a case study, Kao in particular liked GM convertible bonds. He mentioned he was long the convertible bond and short the stock. Overall, he thinks we're close to a bottom in vehicle sales.
Speaking on GM, Kao highlights its 13% market share in China and consolidation of car brands. The current iteration of the trade would be long GM convertible bonds and then short Ford (NYSE:F). We've detailed in the past how Jim Chanos is short Ford as well, although his does not seem to be a pair trade. The Akanthos manager thinks GM debt has around 50% upside. He says that GM convertible debt is trading at 2x EBITDA while F is over 4x EBITDA.
That wraps up this set of presentations.