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Water And Diamonds, Iron And Gold: The Problem With Commodity Prices

Jul. 22, 2014 3:35 AM ETCRUD, DIA, DJP, GLD, GSG, OIL-OLD, QQQ, RJA, SLV, SPY, USO15 Comments
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Summary

  • Why do basic commodities (water and iron) and precious commodities (diamonds and gold) cost the same?
  • Changes in yields, especially the earnings yield, have historically been linked to changes in aggregated commodity prices but less so in individual commodity prices.
  • Individual commodity prices and levels of production seem to adjust to aggregate changes in a systematic way.
  • In recent decades, gold and silver prices appear to be inversely correlated with stocks but positively correlated with basic commodity production levels.
  • Emerging markets, commodity prices (especially for expensive commodities), and basic commodity production levels appear to be due for another major collapse.

Over the last 140+ years, real commodity and producer prices (that is, commodity and producer prices deflated by the consumer price index (CPI)), have been highly correlated with the earnings yield (the ratio of earnings to stock prices, or the inverse of the P/E ratio) on American stocks (SPY, DIA, QQQ) over the medium to long term, just as nominal producer prices were highly correlated with long-term interest rates from the 1720s until World War I over medium- to long-term intervals. This latter relationship is what Keynes called "Gibson's Paradox," in deference to A. H. Gibson's rediscovery of the relationship in the 1920s.

commodity and producer prices and earnings and dividend yields 1870-2010(Sources: Roy Jastram's The Golden Constant, Robert Shiller's data, and Stephan Pfaffenzeller)
consol yield, wpi, cpi UK 1730-1914

(Sources: Jastram, Bank of England)

Over the short term, the relationship tends to be more complicated than that. Commodity prices (RJA, GSG, DJP) can rise quite dramatically with stock prices (thus driving down the earnings yield, all else being equal) or fall in tandem. Not only that, but over the short term, different commodities appear to react in different ways to this relationship.

Oil, for example, tends to be an early mover while precious metals (most notably, gold) tend to be the last to show up to the party. Oil prices (CRUD, USO, OIL) peaked in 2008, while gold (NYSEARCA:GLD), silver (NYSEARCA:SLV), and platinum peaked in 2011. The great spikes in precious metals prices three years ago were, as in 1980, indicators that the decade of rising earnings yields (or, falling P/Es, if you prefer) and commodity prices was ending.

The oil/gold ratio is a simple way of representing that contrast between how oil and gold "respond to" or "predict" the earnings yield and commodity prices. (For charts and a more detailed review of energy and precious metals price behavior discussed in this piece, please see my previous article, "

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I study markets from a long-term historical view, especially the interaction between yields and inflation across all major asset classes. My most original work is probably in the following areas: long-term sector rotations; Gibson's Paradox; Long Waves; market cycles; innovation supercycles; global violence supercycles; intraweek market anomalies; cost disease and inflation; and cost disease and demographic change.

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