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Foundry Networks, Inc. (FDRY)
Q4 2006 Earnings Call
January 31, 2007 5:00 pm ET

Executives

Jason Golz - IR, Financial Dynamics
Bobby Johnson - President and CEO
Dan Fairfax - Chief Financial Officer

Analysts

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities
Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts
Cobb Sadler - Deutsche Bank
Mark Sue - RBC Capital Markets
Samuel Wilson - JMP Securities
Tim Long - Banc of America Securities
Matt Shimao - Bear Stearns
Long Jiang - UBS
Troy Jensen - Piper Jaffray
Ken Muth - Robert Baird
Ryan Hutchinson - WR Hambrecht
Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

Presentation

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's teleconference. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later there'll be an opportunity to ask questions during our Q&A session. Please note, this call maybe recorded. I'll now turn the program over to Mr. Jason Golz. Go ahead please.

Jason Golz

Thank you, Victor, and good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining us for the Foundry Networks' Fourth Quarter 2006 Revenue Results Conference Call. I am joined today by Bobby Johnson, President and Chief Executive Officer and Dan Fairfax, Chief Financial Officer of Foundry Networks.

Earlier this afternoon, the Company issued a release reporting its fourth quarter revenue results. This release can be accessed from the Investor Relations section of Foundry's website at foundrynetworks.com. For reference, we've arranged for a taped replay of this call which may be accessed by phone. This replay will take effect approximately one hour after the call's conclusion today and will be available for seven days. The dial-in access number for this replay is 402-220-1388. This call is also being webcast live with a web replay also available. These may both the accessed from the Investor Relation's section of Foundry's website.

Before we begin, I'd like to make a brief statement regarding forward-looking remarks. The call today contains forward-looking information regarding future events and the future financial performance of the Company. We wish to caution you that such statements are just predictions and actual results may differ materially as a result of risks and uncertainties that pertain to our business.

We refer you to the documents the Company files periodically with the SEC, specifically the Company's recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q and annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2005, as well as the Safe Harbor statement in the press release the Company issued today. These documents contain important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in the Company's projections or forward-looking statements. Foundry assumes no obligation to revise any forward-looking information contained in today's call.

Now I'd like to turn the call over to Bobby Johnson, President and CEO of Foundry Networks. Bobby.

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Bobby Johnson

Thank you Jason and good afternoon everyone. Foundry posted record quarterly revenue of $132.7 million for the fourth quarter, an increase of 14.3% over last year's $116.1 million. In addition to our record quarter, we had record second-half revenue of $251.5 million. We're also pleased t have posted record full year results with $474 million in revenue. This represents a 17.4% increase over last year.

Looking back at last quarter, all the key financial successes that I would like to highlight include, number one, our book-to-bill ratio continued to be greater than one. Number two, overall our North American commercial business continues to perform well growing 28% sequentially and 27% over Q4 '05. Our European and Middle East business also posted record results and continues to experience good momentum, gaining 10% over the third quarter and 28% over Q4 '05. Then fifth, our annualized revenue per employee has increased to $650,000 based upon the fourth quarter's revenue run rate.

I would now like to review key products and operational successes that helped drive the quarter. The first highlight is that I'm pleased to announce The Gartner Group recognized us as a visionary in the Campus LAN category during the quarter. Second, for our enterprise market, our wireless revenue quadrupled sequentially over Q3 with acceptance of our new IronPoint Mobility Series. Additionally, our Gig over copper ports shipments hit an all-time high with 17% sequential growth, and 18% year-over-year growth.

Our FastIron stackable family had 10% sequential growth and our new SuperX family had 25% sequential growth.

Third key operational highlight is in the services provider market where we had major wins utilizing all of our major Layer 2/3, Layer 4-7 traffic management and the MPLS Router platforms. Specifically for our MPLS routers, the NetIron XMR and MLX [series] continue to gain market share with nearly double the revenue sequentially over Q3 '06. Overall, we had customer wins in the wired, wireless cable and content delivery sectors.

Applications included metro build outs, WiMAX build outs, hosting data centers, and internet routing expansions. Our product trials and initial POs in Tier 1 providers continue to progress well. We sold approximately 850 large IP and MPLS routers into service providers during 2006.

Fourth operational highlight I'd like to focus on is in our Layer 4-7 application traffic management market, whereby we began volume shipments to the new entry level traffic management platform, the ServerIron 4G, which targets the mid-sized enterprise customer. This product was previewed on the third quarter earnings call. Overall for the year, approximately 600 of our 1400 new customers are based upon our traffic management products.

And the fifth highlight is, across the board, Foundry's 10-Gigabit Ethernet port shipments were up 26% sequentially and 79% year-over-year.

Before I turn the call over to our new CFO Dan, I'd like to elaborate on some of the internal management and Board level changes that have recently been announced. The first change that I would like to discuss is Tim's new role. As many of you know Tim Heffner has elected to take a role as our new Vice President of Corporate Development. Tim has been with the company as a CFO for over ten years and has extensive background in financial modeling and corporate finances. In Tim's new role, he will be helping our sales force to leverage our strategic reseller partners and to work with our business unit leaders and myself on key strategic planning and partnering decisions.

The second change that I'd like to discuss is the election of a new Chairman. As you are aware, many public companies in recent years have begun separating the roles of CEO and Chairman. Foundry has considered for sometime the separation of the roles of CEO and Chairman of the Board for improved corporate governance compliance. This has now happened with the election of independent Board member, Fred Amoroso as the new Chairman.

Fred has served as the member of the Board of Directors of Foundry since October of 2000, and he has a wide variety of expertise in the research, software and public accounting industries. I have held the CEO and Chairman titles for the last ten and half years. With Fred in the Chairman role, it allow me to spend more time focusing on corporate and product strategy, as well as increased customer interaction. This will allow me greater time to focus on the ongoing execution of our strategies.

The third and last change that I'd like to review is the appointment of Dan Fairfax, previously Foundry's Corporate Controller and Principle Accounting Officer to the position of Chief Financial Officer. Previously, he served as a Senior Vice President of Finance and Chief Financial Officer of Go Remote Internet Communications. Dan is recognized for his financial and business leadership, and his technical accounting skills, and we look forward to his contributions in this new role.

In summary, we've taken several steps to strengthen the company. First, the addition of our new corporate development position with Chairman this role, aiding our executives in more extensive outreached and partnering activities. Second, the addition of more senior accounting expertise within the company with the promotion of Dan to CFO. And third, the increased strategy in customer time I get by the election of Fred to Chairman, which freeze-up my time to run the business as President and CEO. I welcome all to their new roles and I am very happy to have a stronger Foundry team.

I'll now turn the call over to Dan Fairfax, our CFO, Dan?

Dan Fairfax

Thank you, Bobby, and good afternoon everyone. As I begin my comments today, I want to bring your attention to the information we highlighted in today's press release. That is due to the forth coming re-statement of our historical financial statements, Foundry will not be discussing in any detail our current income statement, balance sheet or other GAAP financials, including stock-based compensation expense.

As previously announced in June 2006, the audit committee of the company's Board of Directors appointed a special committee of the Board to conduct an independent investigation of the Company's stock-option practices. The special committee has now completed this investigation. Based on this special committee's findings and subsequent review and analysis, Foundry has determined that from fiscal year 1999 to fiscal year 2005, the company had unrecorded non-cash equity-based compensation charges associated with its equity incentive plans.

These charges are material to Foundry's financial statements for these periods. Accordingly, the company currently expects to record a pretax charge of approximately $185 million to $205 million for fiscal years 1999 through 2005. The tax benefit associated with this charge is expected to be approximately $65 million to $75 million, for a total net charge of approximately $120 million to $135 million. Because our re-statement is not yet complete, we are not able to announce full financial results at this time. However, consistent with last quarter's announcement, we will be presenting select financial results for the fourth quarter, as well as for the full year ended December 31, 2006.

Now, I'd like to take a minute to update you on our NASDAQ listing status. Two days ago, we announced that Foundry had received a letter from NASDAQ staying their delisting decision and calling for a review, the filing deadline given to the Company. As previously disclosed, the Company's continued listing on the NASDAQ stock market was conditioned on the Company becoming current in its delinquent financial reports, and filing any required restated financial statements by February 12, 2007.

The Company has been given until March 2nd to provide the NASDAQ with additional information for their consideration. While there can be no assurance that the Company will become compliant by filing its periodic reports, and restatement before the Listing Council takes any action listing the stay, the company has made substantial progress towards completing its restatement. And we are continuing to work diligently to commit to compliance as soon as possible.

During the stay, the company shares will remain listed on the NASDAQ Stock Market. We are not going to be taking questions on this topic today during today's question-and-answer session.

Now, we will turn to the results of the fourth quarter and the full year 2006. Foundry posted quarterly revenue for the fourth quarter of 2006 of $132.7 million as compared to $116.1 million in the fourth quarter of 2005, and $118.8 million in the third quarter of 2006. This is an increase of 12% sequentially and an increase of 14% over the prior year. We are obviously very pleased with achieving a second consecutive quarter of record revenues.

For the full year of 2006, the company posted revenue of $474 million compared to revenue of $403.9 million in 2005. This represents a year-over-year growth of 17% and is the highest level of annual revenue ever achieved by the company.

In the fourth quarter, sales to the US federal government represented 17% of total revenue, while sales to North American commercial customers represented 54% of total revenue. Sales to Europe, the Middle East and Africa or EMEA region represented 15% of total revenue during the period. North American commercial revenue, which includes enterprise and services provider customers, and EMEA revenues reached record high levels in the most recent quarter. Our sales in Japan this quarter represented 8% of total revenue, essentially flat compared to the prior quarter.

Our overall domestic revenue was 71% of our total business, and our international business represented 29% of total revenues. This compares to 67% for domestic revenue and 33% for international sales in the third quarter. Our enterprise business was again our primary source of revenue. Enterprise customers accounted for approximately 80% of our total revenue for the fourth quarter.

Revenue from our chassis-based products remained at a level consistent with the third quarter, representing 71% of revenue in the fourth quarter of 2006.

Reflecting back on our full year 2006 results, we are very pleased with the developing momentum we achieved over the course of the year. Now, I would like to make just a few comments relating to the balance sheet and a few other selected metrics.

Cash and investments at the end of Q4 totaled $886 million, which is an increase of $46 million in the fourth quarter of 2006 and an increase of $140 million for the full year.

Our book-to-bill ratio in the fourth quarter was again greater than one. Additionally, the Company added 34 employees during the fourth quarter and 97 for the full year 2006. These were mostly sales people and engineers. The total number of employees at year end was 816. Consistent with our practice, we will not be providing formal revenue or EPS guidance on today's call. However, we would like to provide a general and qualitative view of the current quarter's business.

Looking at the current period, we believe that our North American and European enterprise business will continue to be robust although offset somewhat by typical seasonal trends. Historically our business activity in these markets declines mostly in the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter and we are unsure of the momentum we saw in these markets coming out of Q4 will be enough to offset some of this normal seasonality.

Looking at the US Federal government vertical market, while there is always a greater level of uncertainty here as we evaluate our pipeline and our understanding of the available funding at this point, there isn't anything we see today that indicates a material short-term impact to our business opportunities within this market.

And before I turn the call back to Bobby, I need to say that we will not be able to comment regarding the independent investigation of our stock-option grant practices beyond the following information, which we've already announced previously in our January 22nd press release. Although the enquiry undertaken by the special committee is complete and an estimate of the compensation cost has been announced, additional time is required to fully document, review and audit the applicable accounting and tax treatments. Foundry plans to file its Forms 10-Q for the second and third quarters of fiscal 2006, which have been delayed due to pending the final outcome of the enquiry and file all re-stated of financial statements are affected as soon as practical. With that final note, I'll now turn the call back to Bobby.

Bobby Johnson

Thank you Dan, I am very pleased with the progress we have made today, our performance reflects the success in our investments and growing our worldwide presence through our increased spending and expand the sales organization, and the timing and execution of our product launches. We believe that the investments we have made in the business will drive improved performance, [growing] from the first-half of this year and for the long-term.

The year 2006, our record first-half record -- second-half and a record year. Mid-year in 2006, we marked our 10th anniversary also passing 10,000 customers. We released a record number of new products while substantially increasing cash and establishing a stronger sales footprint.

Foundry's success over the past ten and half years demonstrates the value of our long-term focus on building our business. As we continue to grow, we remain committed to our strategy of number one, continuing to achieve profitable growth. Number two, extending our product leadership, number three, maintaining a framework of high touch customer service, and number four, focusing investments to those specifically designed to create future opportunities.

As we look at our strategy in goals for 2007, we will continue the major themes of last year, including increased branding, increased sales headcount, increased service provider solution offerings and increased enterprise solutions and offerings.

Our increased revenue and cash were driven by our increased solution portfolios for both markets. Although we have specific products that address specifically the enterprise or the SP end-customer, our entire product portfolio maybe purchased by either the enterprise, or services provider end-user.

In 2007, in the service provider market we will continue to include more advanced MPLS functionality in our internet routers. While also expanding our internet routers to include SONET, wide area interfaces at OC-12, OC-48 and OC-192 speeds. We are already in [beta] with some of these LAN interfaces and I expect all will be available by mid-year. This allows our XMR and MLX products to expand beyond just LAN connectivity to include true high-speed SONET interfaces at industry leading price and performance levels. Additionally, we will be shipping an MPLS Metro Access Switch within the new few weeks to compliment and extend our reach into emerging Metro Environments.

Foundry offers the highest performing LAN switching and internet routing products in the industry. And then in the next few months we will again double our industry leading performance in port densities. This keeps us on the leading edge of absolute price and performance leadership for our target customers in all of our target markets.

As we have just completed a successful quarter, and a very successful year, I would like to thank all of our employees, partners, customers and stakeholders for their commitment to Foundry.

Now I would like to turn the call back to the operator and open up the question-and-answer period.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions). We'll take our first quarter from the side of Erik Suppiger with Pacific Growth Equities, go ahead please.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

Good afternoon, congratulations.

Bobby Johnson

Thank you.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

Say, during the course of the quarter there was a lot of rumors about some prospective large deals that Foundry was competing on. Can you comment as to whether or not any dynamics have changed in the market such that you're seeing more opportunities emerge a way you're participating in large deals either as a primary provider or as a secondary provider?

Bobby Johnson

Okay Eric. Yes, not just over the quarter but over the course of time, we are beginning to be considered in more and more large fortune environments. we actually won several during the quarter. And the good thing is we are getting up to bat more and more. And so overall I think we're emerging as a credible number two in the fortune enterprise LAN switching arena.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

Are you a second source in many of these or is it a primary source?

Bobby Johnson

I think in many of these, we're going to start off as a secondary source unlike in some other markets where we are the primary source. I believe we're going to start off as the really the number two trying harder scenario.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

Okay. Secondly, any implications that we can anticipate in-light of bringing on your new Chairman?

Bobby Johnson

I view that the most positive aspect of that is more time for myself. So, I think the best opportunities will be, hopefully I can get more customer interaction, and so increase my travel time, as well as, focus a lot on -- not just our strategy, but even give me more time to focus on our execution. I think Foundry has always executed fairly well, but as with all companies with all things, there is always more that we can do.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

And lastly, now that the investigation is largely complete, any thoughts in terms of what the Board's perspective is on the share buyback, which had been contemplated I guess before the investigation started?

Bobby Johnson

We did see if it’s the question with no conclusion, through the investigation. The investigation is complete, but the restatement isn't. So, there's still a lot of bandwidth taken at the Board of Directors on completing the restatement over the next several weeks. So, we've not been able to key up all available options to make use of our increasing cash. So, stock buyback is one of many things that was being considered, and I'm sure it will be one of many things that we've put back and considered in front of the Board in the next few months. So, I won't say it's off the plate, I won't say it's on the plate at the moment. It's certainly one of those things that must be considered once the total restatement is complete.

Erik Suppiger - Pacific Growth Equities

Very good, congratulations. Thank you.

Bobby Johnson

Thank you.

Dan Fairfax

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Matt Robison with Ferris, Baker Watts. Go ahead, please.

Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts

Hi, good afternoon. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about your customer upgrade mix, give us a full flavor as to what portion is related to voice-video convergence and of that what would you say is the second generation versus first-generation upgrades or late-adopter upgrades. And then I guess, for Dan, I would like to know if you can tell us what portion of the cash came from option exercise?

Bobby Johnson

Okay. So, I'll take the first part. Historically, Foundry has appealed, more Foundry's messaging has appealed to early adopters. But as we've gotten larger, as we've gotten greater presence, as we've been recognized both for our product excellence and cash and financial excellence, we've been considered more-and-more as an incredible alternative in the enterprise arena. So, overall, we sell through a lot of the early adopter markets, but we are being considered because of our breadth of Voice-over-IP offerings, wireless offerings now, our wide range from entry level LAN switches to high-performance LAN switches, even for more main stay conservative organizations. So, overall, our mix of business is always going to be more on the early adopter or high-performance environments. But, there are a lot of environments that are now Foundry customers that I would not have personally envisioned as the Foundry founder 10 years ago. So, it's a good mix of business and is actually good for diversification, for balance overtime.

Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts

As soon as you get into these larger fortune companies, how do you expect to be able to support them in overseas? And some of the more exotic developing but rapidly growing countries?

Bobby Johnson

Okay. If you roll back time, Foundry has always had global accounts, even as early as '97 and '98, one of our first major customers rolled Foundry products out across a 40 country install with our help. So, we have a larger sales presence worldwide, we've got a greater two hour, four hour and next business day service capability throughout the world in almost all major countries and many emerging. And we've got distribution partners that we continue to add through, as well as, we have added to more-and-more large resale partners. So, in many of those, we can either do direct or we can do with our partnerships. So, it's improving, we always have more to do, but we're getting more-and-more pleased with where we are and keep trying to take it to the next level.

Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts

One more, there has been, I am starting to hear more about 10-gig over copper and decline in some of the fiber transceiver parts for 10-gig and from a cost basis, do you see any acceleration in the economics for 10-gig? And how do you think those sort of compound related issues might affect you?

Bobby Johnson

Okay. So, there is going to be continuing 10-gig report price declines I think, we saw that in the second half of last year, and we certainly will see it throughout 2007. 10-gig over copper from a standard offering is still little bit away. We will certainly like to see that as one of the 10-gig pioneer and one of the leading vendors and the performance leader. But I think that one is going to take a little bit of time, but overall the price per port is getting very, very attractive, and there are many environments in the HPC service provider arena that are really driving more-and-more 10-gig connectivity.

Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts

Okay alright. Dan do you haven’t an answer on the options?

Dan Fairfax

Yes. So, in the fourth quarter as a consequence of the stock option investigation, we restricted our equity plan activity for employees, effectively stopping all of our option exercises. So, there is a very small portion of the cash generated in quarter that's really to the options, they were exercised before we brought the plans on hold.

Matt Robison - Ferris, Baker Watts

Great. I will leave (inaudible), thanks.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Cobb Sadler with Deutsche Bank. Go ahead please.

Cobb Sadler - Deutsche Bank

Thanks a lot. Just had a couple of questions, first off on the carrier routers, the XMR and MLX, their 13% of revenue. Could you tell us kind of what the driving factors are behind the strength of it? Is it, it sounds like it's probably still Tier 3 and Tier 2s and do you plan on it some point breaking that out as a separate revenue category? Thanks.

Bobby Johnson

Okay. Let me take the last question first. Overtime, yes we will break it out. Secondly right now we're selling XMRs and MLXs to all different types of "service providers". As I mentioned there's a wide range between wired, wireless, cable, triple-play emerging content type from providers. We have filed an, what consider would be Tier 1, we have purchase orders from what we consider worldwide Tier 1. I would say we're in the initial phases of all that, I'll also caution people that we're really looking forward to really the second half of '07 and beyond as truly beginning to measure it internally, but as you can see, it's contributing quite well even in this early phases. So, we consider 2006 really as kind of an extended development and trialing phase and we've generated quite a few customer wins. I don't have the total but its north of a 100. And we exited the year with quite good revenue. Now it will take, as I said more time for us to get more and more traction. But we are actually a little bit ahead of plan with the traction we have gotten to-date and we are very optimistic over the long-term as we had the SONET interfaces. The type of application and the quality of the customer will be very high for that product platform.

Cobb Sadler - Deutsche Bank

Okay, great thanks and then on the domestic enterprise you put of a big quarter. Can you give us a little color maybe on the outlook there and what's the driver there? Is it the move to 10 gig as the replacement switches that are five-six years old. What you see in there?

Bobby Johnson

Well I think, on the domestic enterprise, we get several positive factors, one is growth and gig-over-copper, two is growth and power-over-Ethernet for Voice-over-IP. The third one is more and more wireless enablement. Then you do have everybody is either considering or moving to 10-gig backbone. So, there is multiple factors in play there and then there is the Layer 4-7 traffic management, which we lead in performance and we increased our high-end as well as our low-end Layer 4-7 shipments in Q4 over Q3. So, there is four or five factors coming into play there, when we like for them to come and play even greater, absolutely, but it takes time but it's all been positive in the second half of the last year.

Cobb Sadler - Deutsche Bank

Just one last question on the Federal government. I guess the budgets are normally approved in the February timeframe, and March can be kind of a questionable quarter. Do you -- maybe (inaudible) do you have any insight as how the budget maybe looking or at least your government business, how do you feel about it for the next quarter or so, if you can give us that kind of guidance? Thanks a lot.

Bobby Johnson

Okay. Currently, it looks like our Federal government business would be at least stable with what we have seen. Now that's our short-term outlook, our input from our Federal team and customers have there been both positive and negative surprises in Federal over the past few years, yes. But right now things are kind of steady as she goes. I don't have any greater insight at this moment and -- but, the Federal team appears at least optimistic stability.

Cobb Sadler - Deutsche Bank

Great. Okay, thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the sight of Mark Sue with RBC Capital Markets, go ahead please.

Mark Sue - RBC Capital Markets

Thank you. Visibility overall seems to be improving to the point that some companies are providing full year guidance. What are your thoughts on visibility as we start the year and what are your assumptions for market growth for Layer 3 switching in 2007. Do you think it's higher or lower or the same versus last year?

Bobby Johnson

I would say for the market sectors and economy is returning it, we're fairly optimistic for the year. We think worldwide economies are at least stable if not growing. There is always a wild card of what happens with federal budgets. They won't go to zero and I’m not sure that we have any short-term or even long-term negative impact at this moment. And we're continuing to try to diversify there. So, overall we're optimistic in our outlook.

Mark Sue - RBC Capital Markets

Does that mean you feel better now at this point than a year ago in terms of the outlook?

Bobby Johnson

I feel personally better, about the kind of annual and longer term outlook that I did a year ago.

Mark Sue - RBC Capital Markets

That's helpful. And Dan this is your first call so we are not sure what you mean by typical seasonality. Is it down a little, down a lot, I think you're suggesting that March can potentially be flat?

Dan Fairfax

I think when I look back at the Company's history, we do see this effect of year-end budgets and the first quarter being a little bit softer but we did have good momentum coming out of the fourth quarter. We are not giving any kind of formal guidance there and we are watching both those dynamics very closely, that's all that I can give you.

Mark Sue - RBC Capital Markets

Okay. Thank you and good luck gentlemen.

Bobby Johnson

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. (Operator Instructions) We'll take our next question from the side of Samuel Wilson with JMP Securities. Go ahead please.

Samuel Wilson - JMP Securities

Hi, good afternoon gentlemen. Just two questions real small. First, you talked a little bit about linearity of bookings throughout the quarter? And second, can you just talk about generally the competition/pricing environment during the last quarter? Thank you.

Bobby Johnson

So, this is Bobby. I'll take the questions. Linearity was probably our best ever for quarter, and so we were very pleased with linearity improvement in Q4. Second question was on marketing competition. There's always competition. There is a lot of opportunity. We have -- we refreshed or introduced new products, kind of across the Board last year. So, going into the second half, we had the better product lineup than most of our competitors or all of our competitors, and those products are gaining traction and gaining acceptance, gaining more flesh on their bones. So, overall, we're feeling very good about our own upgrade cycle and product refresh. We have more new price coming this year, and more new features coming on products from last year. There's no way that we can repeat the amount of refresh that we did in our products lines last year because we introduced multiple new products in every category replacing some of our other products last year, and I don’t think our customers would want to see us obsolete something 6 to 12 months old very often. So, we are putting more flesh on the bones; we get new products coming, we get great momentum in our new products we've introduced.

Samuel Wilson - JMP Securities

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Tim Long with Banc of America. Go ahead please.

Tim Long - Banc of America Securities

Thank you. Just two quick ones also, if I could. First, back to the US commercial business strength, I think on the last call you'd talked about some deferrals there based on meeting some high priority government orders and we saw a kind of flip-flop in Federal and Commercial this quarter. Could you just talk a little bit may be how that played into the two sets of numbers here in the December quarter? And then Dan, if you could just may be provide us with some directional comments on a pro forma basis or both gross margins and operating expenses in the quarter? Thank you.

Bobby Johnson

Dan, why don’t you take the second part first?

Dan Fairfax

So, again not to equivocate, but with the ongoing investigation we can't get too specific at this point with gross margin and OpEx. But we are comfortable with the targets we've laid out for investors in the past. So, for gross margins, the 50%-55% range and OpEx 20%-25%. I am sorry operating margin percent 20% to 25%.

Tim Long - Banc of America Securities

Okay. But you can't compare to last quarter result?

Dan Fairfax

Not on this call.

Bobby Johnson

Okay. On your first question about rated orders, and some slight deferrals, it played a minor role but overall our book-to-bill was very strong, in Q4 '04, the target sectors you were talking about so. Overall it didn't play much of a role.

Tim Long - Banc of America Securities

Okay. Was there any negative impacts in the quarter because of it?

Bobby Johnson

Not in Q4.

Tim Long - Banc of America Securities

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Matt Shimao with Bear Stearns. Go ahead please.

Matt Shimao - Bear Stearns

Hi guys, nice quarter. Just a couple of questions. So, regarding your employee headcount, can you give us your thoughts on your hiring plans for the next maybe 12 month or so? And to the extent you plan to add people, where do you plan to focus these additions in terms of product segments and geographies?

Bobby Johnson

Okay. Well, I'll provide some flavor but to provide too much detail would also be alarming our competitors with some of our strategy. A lot depends upon how well we can find them, but in general we're going to hire more sales people and generically that will be in all geographies. I can't think of a geography right now that we are not adding people, all major geographies. Second, is we will obviously continuing to grow engineering, we'll grow finance, we'll grow manufacturing. Basically all major functional areas in the company will have open racks for the year. In terms of total quantity, that is a little harder to give out, I'll give you, we would hope to grow our headcount more this year than we did last year.

Matt Shimao - Bear Stearns

Great, and regarding your MLX and XMR products switching gears. The very strong revenue growth this quarter was encouraging, given the longer sales cycle for this product. Can you talk little bit, not so much about your actual results, but what you're seeing in terms of your pipeline of opportunities. Is it growing at a similar rate as your actual results?

Bobby Johnson

The pipeline is growing at least consistent with our results, number 1. Number two, the positive and the negatives are also that some of those orders can be a lot being unpredictable, so, making the large, lumpy and unpredictable. So, the positive takeaways were increasing product functionality, we are adding more product, we've got good reference accounts and acceptance. Our pipeline and the number of engagements is up. We are adding headcount in that sector, but from quarter-to-quarter there can be transitional chips or transitory chips.

Matt Shimao - Bear Stearns

Understood. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you we'll take our next question from the side of Long Jiang with UBS. Go ahead
please.

Long Jiang - UBS

Good afternoon Bobby and Dan. First question, I mean keeping your relative optimism about [your term] outlook, can you share some thoughts about how much of that was driven by macro marketing and how much of that was driven by company specific [product operating] cycle? Hello.

Bobby Johnson

Well, yes, we were thinking about your question. So, I'll take it Dan?

Dan Fairfax

Yes, okay.

Bobby Johnson

Okay. Well certainly I think our new product cycles last year, our increased sales headcount certainly helped, so I would say that from that perspective corporate Foundry induced actions helped the top line. Now certainly good economies help and in some cases good economies have helped everybody, but I believe the economy plus our actions have helped us percentage wise more than some other players.

Long Jiang - UBS

Okay. Another question is about gross margin, with your XMR and MLX, given you are kind of early-bird, can you comment about how these two product families gross margins compare to some of your older service provider products?

Bobby Johnson

Yes, I think we're not prepared to going to that level of detail in the call today.

Long Jiang - UBS

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks Bob.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Troy Jensen with Piper Jaffray. Go ahead please.

Troy Jensen - Piper Jaffray

Yes, thanks and congrats of a nice call. Just a quick follow-up on the XMR and the MLX question that was just asked, how about at current revenue levels, would it be safe to assume that since volumes are still pretty late, that it's probably below the corporate average currently.

Bobby Johnson

I'll defer to Dan of how much he wants to get into.

Dan Fairfax

Yes, still fairly small percentage of our mix, so I think that would be fair to say.

Troy Jensen - Piper Jaffray

Okay perfect. And Bobby just one for you, looking to '07 what do you think the biggest opportunity is going to be? Is it primarily enterprise upgrades, data center market or other service provider space?

Bobby Johnson

Yes.

Troy Jensen - Piper Jaffray

All three?

Bobby Johnson

Well, I mean obviously we want to play in all, right. That’s why we have both product portfolios and market focus, that's why most of our larger competitors have both, is to be able to in good times catch all upgrades cycles and in transitory times catch a good economy and one market sector while another may deteriorate. So, I believe everything you have outlined is an opportunity for Foundry.

Troy Jensen - Piper Jaffray

Understood, keep up the good work guys.

Operator

Thank you, we'll take our next question from the side of Ken Muth with Robert Baird, go ahead please.

Ken Muth - Robert Baird

Hi, on the Federal Government, could you tell us kind of your thoughts and current updates on IPv6 upgrades and how that kind of gives you opportunity through '07 and '08?

Bobby Johnson

IPv6 is a good opportunity for us. I am not sure if it's a good upgrade cycle necessarily in '06 or '07 but certainly, I mean in '07 or '08, but certainly around '08 and beyond it's good. It also has been good in many international markets for us. There are some markets, some countries that IPv6 has been more important than in the United States for instance because we've kept the large IPv4 address space. But certainly, the Federal government has mandated it. We've been offering v6 for sometime there and many of our products are already v6 enabled in the Federal Government, and I do believe that there will be some upgrades in certain environments, beginning over the next 6 to 18 months. There could be another, I wouldn't say necessarily major but good adder upgrade.

Ken Muth - Robert Baird

Okay. Then as your portfolio is expanded and your customer base is expanding, could you just kind of give us some thoughts on how your deal size maybe increasing. So obviously helping drive the revenue as well or where is it roughly today? Just rough numbers?

Bobby Johnson

Once again, I don't have that explicative of a number because a deal could be here ship1 laser GBIC, to ship 60 MLX is. So it could be $250 to $4.5 million or $5 million. So, we look at -- we don't necessarily look at average deal size, we look at total deal flow.

Ken Muth - Robert Baird

Okay, thank you.

Bobby Johnson

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Ryan Hutchinson with WR Hambrecht.

Ryan Hutchinson - WR Hambrecht

Just a couple of questions here. Can you provide the break up between product and service? And then I have a question back on the seasonality bit.

Dan Fairfax

Yes, so in the fourth quarter, product was a $112 million, and service are 20.6 -- 20.7.

Ryan Hutchinson - WR Hambrecht

Okay. And going back to the seasonality question, I know you're not giving specific guidance, but typically you witness some level of seasonality in Q1. Is it fair to assume that it'll be similar to last year?

Bobby Johnson

Well I’m not sure, again as we look at orders in pipeline that we can predict exactly what the shape of its going to be. We kind of look at either the history and see that we've experienced some.

Ryan Hutchinson - WR Hambrecht

Okay fair enough.

Operator

Thank you. We'll take our next question from the side of Manny Recarey with Kaufman Brothers, go ahead please.

Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

Good afternoon it's Manny Recarey. Two quick questions. One, can you give me the increase in the sales force in 2006, hello?

Bobby Johnson

Yes, we're looking at the number.

Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

Okay, well. Then my second question is--

Bobby Johnson

In round numbers it would be approximately 30 incremental sales teams.

Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

And how many are in each team, possibly?

Bobby Johnson

A team is one sales guy and one SA.

Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

Okay and then the second question is on, with the new position that Tim is filling in, the corporate development, should we expect any changes in your view, activity or partnering in acquisitions?

Bobby Johnson

We'll certainly he frees up several people to look at that. We have not done an acquisition but we have done co-investing in [better rounds] with by the companies in our past. We have several things that we are considering. It will always come down to mix and we've looked at many acquisitions and decided against them overtime. That doesn't mean that we always will and it goes to the bigger question that is alluded to by the stock buyback; we have a growing cash position, what do we do with it? And so we're going to key up a lot of different alternatives.

Manny Recarey - Kaufman Brothers

Okay. Thanks.

Operator

Thank you and it appears we are out of time for questions. I'll now turn the call back over to Mr. Bobby Johnson for closing remarks.

Bobby Johnson

Okay. Thank you operator. I want to thank everybody for joining us this afternoon. Well, I'd like to take the time once again to thank everybody that is employees, partners, shareholders, Board members. We had a record year, and we look forward to updating everybody in approximately 90 days. Thank you.

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