Reality Check: Raising the Red Flags on YTB International 287 comments
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Add to that a publicly traded company based on a multi-level marketing scheme [MLM]. These are always intriguing because of the potential for Ponzi-scheme type abuses.
Add to that a publicly traded company that hasn't reported its financials in over a year: one that trades on the pink sheets because of lack of adequate financial reporting.
.....One that has recently declared its historical financials for at least 3 prior years invalid and in need of restatement.
......One that, the last time it reported its numbers, had three times the revenues from selling business opportunities than it had from selling its core product.
.....One that guarantees a minimum commission for recruiting even more participants.
.....One whose operators include a minister whose primary accomplishment is building a large church congregation.
... .and finally, one whose compensation program is tied to the promise to issue large blocks of stock at a set price less than 6% of today's market price ($1 a share).
Seems impossible, but its all true.
Multi-level marketing is not illegal. A few multi-level marketing companies have been very successful. But far more collapse because of the potential abuses in the business structure that create the conditions of a Ponzi scheme.
Among the huge red flags swirling around this issue:
What are the real numbers? Is this company even profitable net of its multi-level compensation promises?
What are the legal implications and financial effects of promises of large blocks of below-market stock into an MLM organization st $1 a share?
Would regulators be concerned if MLM participants are being encouraged in any official or unofficial way to form an affinity group to buy the stock ?
And of course --- what has changed for this company in the last two months ?
Cautious Investing To All.
Disclosure: Author is short YTBL.PK.
This article has 287 comments.
I'd love to get in touch with you about YTB and what's going on with them.
Susan
Melrose,Ma.
You make promises and then with your quotas many sturggle and quit because the promise they got has not been fulfilled. Ask the ones struggling if they are making the money they expected to make when they joined? When a company charges that high fee 85% of the money goes only to 3% of the people.
I spoke to one person from YTB and they told me that they do not bother with people who do not have $499.99. That denies people who need to earn extra income the opportunity to put food on their table, save them from perhaps foreclosure on thier house and have to declare bankruptsy. I could go on and on.
What in your estimation constitutes a good company. I think it is where the CEO and President does everyhting to put money in your pocket not take it out of your pocket. Explain this, why are so many leaving your company if it is so good? They are leaving in droves.
Why not get involved in an honest company that you make money with people instead of "OFF" of them. You want to see a good company I'll show you a great company and I'll guaranty you won't find a thing wrong with it in fact it put all the others to shame.
BUYER BEWARE..KEEP YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY IN YOUR POCKET AND JOIN SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HYPE YOU AND DECEIVE YOU. You've seen the rest, now experience the best and not because I'm involved in it. Rated number one from Wall Street in NY
In order to make a quality decision on a good company you need all the facts with no hype just honesty from the beginning with a CEO and President that does not deceive anyone. THat is what I call helping people. Get in touch with me if interested. I'm dong very well and most of the people in my business came for your GREAT comapany. When you see the difference you too will be sold that it is a great comapny. 508 210 3117 Please ask for Sheila I can sleep very well nights knowing I have truly helped others. May G-d Bless each and everyone of us and align yourself with a company with integrity. That is the most important.
Please send me information on your biz op. My daughter joined YTB without checking out much and is wanting me to join be cause I travel extensively and know a ot of peopel in busieness who book their own travel.
I am interested in the concept but want to make sure I am with the right organization.
Dan
eamil address dangiacoletto@aol.com
I have been contacted by a representative from YTB wanting me to join. I am glad I found your article before I jumped in. I have been scammed before and cannot afford to be again. What is the opportunity you mentioned in your article?
Thanks.
Mr. John Camp
My email is laymanjohn@aol.com
Thanks again.
zirka87@juno.com
Susan
theytb.com
Thanks so much, Kathy @ krazykat@impulse.net
you must also look at those who are quick to jump without doing their research or ensuring that this is the right thing for them. we aren't all meant to be salesmen or travel women. if you are not outgoing, creative, and have an entrepreneur way of thinking than ytb, as well as many other endeavors, are not for you.
i wish you all the best in your values and your way of life, but we have to stop "babying" each other and make each other stand up and make well thought out decisions.
and NO, i am not in YTB...but i might just go ahead and do it!
Whatz up? I just had to comment on this...You are sleeping on YTB. From the top to the bottom this company has a big heart! Do you know who Juliet St. John is? Read about her (Google it if you don't ).
This woman is a primary example of how big hearted this company's founder is and its successors. Yes I have a YTB site-however it took me since November of 2004 until September of 2007 to join!
I wasn't convinced enought at first, but definately the opportunity did intrique my interest-just as it does yours. Just know that everyone that joins this company did not pay that $499.00 often times it was waived, but the bonus structure remained the same. Did you know that this company will pay you $1300.00 after you have personally sponsored 12 RTA's? And thereafter every 6 RTA's will=another $1300.00 payable to you!
Do the MATH
See this world is about MATH & SCIENCE that's it...
If it don't make $$$$ it won't make sense (cents) RIGHT?
Avon, Marykay, Ameriscience, Ameriplan, Amway, Prepaid Legal, and the otherones that may work for some people do not have this type of compensation plan. The stock speaks for itself. Ask yourself, if your stock was rising like this would you open this door of opportunity to everyone for FREE-Hell NO
The Tomer Family has helped so many people in the business with just the moral support alone. All types of people-Rich & Poor.
I am a Christian and YTB is my testimony, I have never felt so accepted by another family-(Home, Church, Associations) in my life. Come to the RED Carpet and see the room filled with smiling faces and experience the joy of this company first hand for yourself and I promise you that the presence of the Lord is in that room.
Tuesdays-Collinsville IL
Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Our leader has posted $25,000 for anyone to find a better company with a better compensation plan let me know. He left a $20,000 a month program to join ours, that speaks volumes.
What does that tell you? It is not necessary to spend $499.99 to join any program. THERE IS NO PROGRAM WORTH THAT MONEY. IT IS NOT BETTER BECAUSE IT COSTS MORE. I feel that is discrimination. The average person needs to have a program to bless their family financially as well as any of us. I'm so blessed that I found the best program with the best compensation. I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I'M IN IT, TRUST ME. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPANY I'M IN YOU WILL REALIZE WHAT I FOUND.
I INVITE YOU TO ONE OF OUR CONFERENCE CALL TUESDAY MAY 15, 07 9:45 PM ET 6 45 PM PT
507 726 3200 PIN 44023# HEAR OUR PRESIDENT AND CEO LIVE.
YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR CALL ME AT 508 210 3117 I look forward to hearing from you. We have many from YTB who left to join a company because of our honesty, no deception.
YTB (Your Travel Biz) Is on solid footing financially, legally, and the leadership team is second to none -- do your homework! J. Lloyd Tomer is responsible for building an insurance and financial services empire making him well in excess of $1 million dollars per year' yet you say his primary accomplishment is building a large church congregation! Sounds like your trying to create a reality with your articles that will justify your short position in this stock.
Hello All,
I would like to say that I have personally met with several of the leaders of this company (YTB) and have expressed similar concerns about the stock. I think some of you will be surprised by what will come from this company's stock performance. I personally made the decision to get involved with this program based on the answers that I got about the stock's future. I am working with a top leader in this company to position myself and my team members, to exercise the stock option bonus program. If any of you would like to get the inside track on this company and learn how to position yourself for generational wealth with YTB, in this multi-trillion dollar industry I would be willing to converse with you personally or via e-mail -- my full contact information is on my website found at www.travelcashplan.com
To Your Success,
Joshua Immel
Here's some info on our Preident & CEO:
David Manning President/CEO/founder of TraVerus Travel
16 years, Direct /Network Marketing
Highly accomplished field distributor
Nat'l Sales Trainer
Industry Consultant
Compensation plan designer Specialist
17 years Easter Seals Telethon TV host
12 years Int'l Sports promoter
setting 2 world attendance records
Acclaimed motivational public speaker
Listen to him on the 9:45 call.
Here's my site where you can check it out: www.travelworldwidemov...
Call me
Makedah Sari
866-915-3603 if you are interested in the opportunity
or log into WIldBeanTravel, click on Financial INdependence and JOIN NOW!!
Rick
www.ytsource.com
What I'm hearing is that no sooner do some people sign up many others are dropping out for one reason or another. One of the reasons is it's just too much and because it's all hype. Check us out at: www.fantasyvacations.i...
Then get back to me.
Susan
781-665-0710 ET
I don't really understand what you just wrote? YTB is a great company and we are talking to several people that are doing well in the business. There are tons of MLM travel companies but I don't think any compare to ytb.
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
314-265-9732
receving nice checks on commison on my travel booking$$$$$$$$$$ and i am helping others do the same my website is maturanatravelsolution... call me and we can help you too 813 882 8926
thanks, mike
Susan
781-665-0710
Have you ever thought of working for a living instead of talking crap about other companies and the people in them.It looks like you visit this blog often to recruit instead of other sources..I looked at your site real quick not to judge with out knowing what I am talking about and it looks like a four year old designed it!! Get a life and work for your money instead of praying on others that are trying to do well for themselves..You are not trying to help anyone but yourself you make it sound like you are doing a service..all you are trying to do is make an override..Tim
There is no comparison because you are not comparing apples to apples. When you check out YTB with the program that I have been in for now 4 months there is no absolutely no comparison because we have the Best there is in the industry barring none. Please be advise it is not the BEST because I'm in it. I had many nd I did my due diligence, pulled ours apart with a fine tooth comb before I would joinany company and my program was given a clean bill of health...sorry to say I can't say that about YTB. I had a few experts on compensation plans and again we came out on TOP. No one so far has claimed the $25,000 challenge, if anyone can find a better company with a better pay plan. What does that say about my program? To me it tells me one thing and one thing only that we have the cream of the crop. Needless to say we have many people jumping ship over to us. Our company is where the average person who never made any money in another program is earning a wonderful steady income. I'm so thankful for finding the right program at the right time. Someone is watching over me from above.
Thank you for your time and if you are interested in the best program on the planet here is how to reach me. Please folks save your money because your entrance fee is absurd.
Need more information dial 508 210 3117 or email me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... The TRUTH shall set you FREE!!!! BTW we do not hype anyone we just state the TRUE facts, our company does not need to be hyped it is much too good to do that. We don't have to convince or twist their arms to join. Once they see our comp. plan they are sold and they join immediately. You think I'm kidding? Find out for yourself. We just brought a football player from the Pittsburgh Steelers. We have John O' Hurley, host of Family Feud and played J. Peterman on Seinfeld, Elaine's boss, also John Daley, journalist. We will have our own cruise ship, 5 star resort and our own Island.
2 July 2007 – Florida after YTB reps! The next BurnLounge in FTC eyes? The FTC has been letting states take the lead. Then they often follow up nationally with the evidence from the State hit (Burn Lounge). The greater Los Angeles Better Business Bureau listed YTB as a Pyramid Scheme for over 6 months now. In the old days (before terrorist attacks) the FTC would often follow up the LA BBB listing in about six months with court action. Today the Department of Justice who often provides lawyers for the FTC is tied up with terrorism related cases. The WatchDog thinks that the clock is ticking on YTB.
www.mlmwatchdog.com/py...
Let it be known here and now you can't touch us with what you have sorry to say but true. When you see what we offer you will agree with us as many of your former YTB people have said we are the best an dnow they are with us. We have no worries..we are not plastered either all over the Internet like you are.. Any way we want people with integrity and the truth not people who rob from the poor and give to the rich like you do. Good luck to you in all your present and future endeavorsl. The cream always rises to the top..We shall see how wonderful you truly are when you are no longer a company and that is happening as I type.
I'm just trying to protect all of you from future harm and to learn the comparisons. You make money OFF people we make money WITH them big huge difference. It amazes me how you all fall for all the hype in your company. We don't need to hype anything.
Good luck
508 210 3117 if you care to check us out. No hard feelings just want you to know the truth and then it will set you all free. Make more money than you ever dreamed possible and residual built in from the moment you join. You don't have it.
Traverus Travel is the travel company that is going to take over the travel industry. Unlike most of the other travel companies that charge $500-$2000+ to join and have stringent qualifications. Traverus is an affordable $119.95 to join and one personal sale gets you a position in the 3x9 matrix. I was the 2399th person in company a few weeks ago and there are now over 4800. Two sales in 7 days gets you upgraded to a certified travel agent position normally $399. Traverus is not a card mill you must take a 5 hour course either online or on a cruise to get your travel agent card. Traverus is not a start up they are a 4 year old established travel company that started the direct sales force on November 1, 2006. They have a great reputation and have JOhn O Hurley from Seinfeld as their celebrity spokesperson. The comp plan is the best I have ever seen and pays back 90% of the commissions to the agents. You also make up to 70% commission on booking travel at your website as a CTA. Great leadership calls everyday to bring people to explain the program.
my site is www.fantasyvacations.i... the recorded call is 1-641-985-5999 ext 21694. My phone is 781-665-0710 email is suema2006@gmail.com
Susan
I just received my ID Card this week and am looking forward to working with the cruise lines and other travel entities directly.
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
www.cliftontravelgroup...
it does not matter what these negative people are saying, because people are going to leave and join companies for different reasons mainly I left because Traverus did not pay for anything, I found the free medical and life insurance plus the million dollar bonus and bonus all the way up very attractive.
Traverus is too busy paying Rich Actors then paying their distributors, but that was just my exerpience someone else may love it, this is why we all have our own choices to make.
Read more about YTB before following someone on here then make the choice right for you.
I've been in Traverus since mid March and I have never had to pay more than the joining fee and because I've been bringing others in all of the time have never had to pay the monthly fee. I've been paid on time and each week my checks have been larger. So could it be that you haven't had anyone signup under you to make any money. They pay the actors because they are also distributors just like I am. You couldn't possibly have all of the information on Traverus or have been on many if any of the conference calls, as that's so important to any business. Traverus provides all the training that you need to succeed and it's up to you what you do with it. I wish you all the success with YTB! If by some chance you should change your mind again and want to rejoin Traverus, I'm here for you. Susan suema2006@gmail.com
Also any company that has a large fee to join 85% of that money goes to only 3% of the people and the ones not at top struggle.
What does one have to do to earn the million dollar bonus. H ow many hours does it take, if not years and how may associates struggle in your organization. How long are you in your company and how many are earning significant income to earn back the their investment in your company? What do they have to do to earn back their initial investment, how many associates does that take?
Who was your sponsor in TraVerus and how long were you an associate?
I wish you well with all present and future endeavors. I have some inside information you don't want to hear and I will not post it here.
The person who started this original post here has some information about YTB and that is why the RED FLAG was raised, wouldn't you agree? Why else would whomever post this here. I believe it is to protect and WARN people here that things are not as they seem.
Keep in mind we have over 500 in our business you are talking about one person.hmmm Sorry, I'm not impressed. You have to come up with a better explanation. Sorry I do not buy your theory..
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
Why are you afraid to post the Traverus comp plan?
www.traverus.net www.traverus.biz
recorded message 646 222 0102
I refuse to leave anyone behind. Listen to an oppty call & hear the TRUTH!!! instantTeleseminar.com...
I made my choice to be financially independent-YOU CAN DO THE SAME
Angy, what makes you think I'm angry??? The fact that you don't know anyone who left YTB doesn't mean many have not left. I'm not making any of the up. I can tell you many and that is more than should if your company is as good as you try to hype. NOT NECESSARY EVER TO HYPE ANY COMPNAY..THEIR PEOPLE SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES..their compensation speaks for itself.
With knowledge, integrity, truth and a company that cares about its members and has a company where the average person can now make some decent money not struggle in order to my YTB quotas. There is never any reason to hype...also we do not discriminate and make it affordable for everyone. Many do not have the money to join your company to make money. Yes you have your free position and how does one make any money that way??
I'm not angry just trying to PROTECT people from being taken, nothing more.
I help people become successful and they appreciate everything I do and the company does.
I've said it before, a person unable to afford your entrance fee still needs/wants to increase their income and put food on their table too. We do not rob from the poor and give to the rich. People who are looking for an opportunity don't have your entrance fee, plain and simple.
Good Luck Cliff. I'm glad you think it is funny. This is serious business not something to pick fun at.
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
www.cliftontravelgroup...
You must be kidding, join your team..never in a Trillion years. I'd never take money from the poor and give it to the rich, not my style at all. Equal opportunities for all.
When YTB folds give me a call if you still want to be in a travel program. You don't know what a great company is, I do. I'm not saying it because I'm in it or want to bring you into my program..I just know what I have and I know what you have and there is no comparison, none.
I wish you the best with YTB and all the people who aren't making any money in it and are struggling please spare me, I know many as I posted before who have left your GREAT company. If you call YTB great ours is the BEST on the planet..and I can prove it too. Please stay with YTB because in your eyes it is GREAT and you need to follow your conscience.
WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE A GOOD COMPANY IT MEANS NOTHING UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE IT AND I CAN.
We do not have to go public and sell stock. WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY. WE DO NOT NEED TO SELL STOCK. We do not need money $$$$$$$$$$$$$ WE HAVE PLENTY OF IT. WE WILL HAVE SOON OUR OWN 2. 4 MILES OF OCEAN FRONT PROPERTY OF OUR OWN. OUR OWN CRUISE SHIP AND OUR OWN 5 STAR RESORT WITH OUR NAME ON IT. DON'T BE MISLED, DON'T LET THE HYPE OF OTHER COMPANIES GET TO YOU. DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY THAT CHARGES $499.99 IT ISN'T BETTER BECAUSE THEY CHARGE MORE. WHY DO I POST HERE, TO PROTECT AS MANY PEOPLE AS I POSSIBLY CAN TO GET INVOLVED WITH AN A NUMBER ONE COMPANY FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST A FEW WHO CAN AFFORD $499.99. SHAME ON YOU FOR ILLIMINATING THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD $499.99. EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE PEOPLE. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO. WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD AND LET THE AVERAGE PERSON TO MAKE SOME GREAT MONEY.
When you think you have the BEST OR A GOOD company you don't know wHAT a good/best company REALLY IS ..you just don't get it. I WILL PROVE TO ANYONE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST. WHEN PEOPLE JUMP SHIP TO US IT TELLS US VOLUMES. PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID THEY KNOW THE BEST WHEN THEY ARE INTRODUCED TO IT, WE ARE THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY. GET IN TOUCH WITH ME AND I'LL PROVE IT TO ANYONE THAT WE ARE THE BEST. LET'S COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES FOLKS..WHERE THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN MAKE SOME DECENT MONEY NOT STUGGLE AND TELL THEM THEY CAN MAKE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY AND THOSE PEOPLE NEVER DO IT ONLY A FEW DO AND THEY HAVE TO WORK THEIR TAILS OFF. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH ME TO PROVE TO YOU WHAT WE HAVE. THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU HAVE. 508 210 3117 ASK FOR SHEILA
First of all this rhetoric in about stealing from the poor and giving it to the rich is preposterous. You can't start any viable business for $500 that include a website that books flights, cruises, car rentals, hotels, sporting events, concert tickets, bridal registry, send flowers and now sells new cars! Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about!! I've been a business owner for many years and I've never seen any business like this one. In my first 4 weeks I made over $2000. Most of that was from recruiting people but that was their choice. They saw the opportunity and wanted to be a part of it. The smartest aspect of this business is the recruiting since it will set you up for a huge residual income when everyone starts booking travel. It's like planting seeds for the future and the harvest will be in the months and years to come. If you can't afford $500 for everything that YTB offers, then by all means you should go do something else. YTB is not interested in taking someone's last $500 only to have them sit around and do nothing. YTB offers them the chance to really make a difference in their financial future if they are willing to follow their training methods. One of my close friends just booked travel from LAX to Italy in September, he saved $600 over Travelocity. He was so ecstatic that he signed up and booked it on his own site. I believe they are all good and there is enough business to go around for everyone. Nobody has all the best features with any given company, it's really about what works for you. I don't care who you are attached to, if you sit around on your ass and don't make the phone calls, don't get out and talk to people you aren't gonna' make any money period! As for me I love YTB and so does my team. I trust that the powers that be will do the right things to insure YTB's success in the years to come
The Critical spirit and the bashing is really getting old. I hope you can refrain and maybe just start praying for us that someone like me can find a great company and wonderful people to work with.
I am sincerely trying to read these different opinions and learn from others and their experiences. I wish the very best for them all. (That includes you) But ....Please !!! Stop all this negative bashing and tearing down someone else's company and them as an individual.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but I am truly sincere. May God Bless us all, to become encouragers.
My Name is Louis (Thanks)
The Critical spirit and the bashing is really getting old. I hope you can refrain and maybe just start praying for us that someone like me can find a great company and wonderful people to work with.
I am sincerely trying to read these different opinions and learn from others and their experiences. I wish the very best for them all. (That includes you) But ....Please !!! Stop all this negative bashing and tearing down someone else's company and them as an individual.
Sorry to be so long-winded, but I am truly sincere. May God Bless us all, to become encouragers.
My Name is Louis (Thanks)
Thanks for your comments, I really appreciate them. All I ask is this, nothing more, no obligation. Just let me show you and you decide what is best for you and your team. You 'll never know if you don't take a look. We don't convince anyone, don't hype anyone because it is just too good. I'm happy you love TYB I really think it's admirable and that is wonderful how you feel. Now I'd like to show you something if I many. A mind is like a parachute it ony functions when it is OPEN. I'm not asking you to do a thing, just let me show YOU something you many not be aware of. Not asking you to leave YTB at all..just to see something else.
I look forward to hearing from you. If I can be any help to you please get in touch. 508 210 3117 or Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
Susan
781-665-0710
Let it also be known here and now John O' Hurley our spokesperson does not get paid like most other companise who buy their spokes person. WE do not and will not. The truth shall set you free. Chris take a good hard look at what you are selling. I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you too.
Ladies and Gentlemen..the facts and comparisons DO NOT LIE. COMPARE BEFORE YOU LEAP INTO SOMETHING YOU WILL BE SORRY FOR. HYPE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, JUST HYPE. I sleep very well at night knowing that the average person who never made moeny in any other company can and does make money in what I'm involved in. The choice and ball is strictly in your court. I wish all of you the very best in present and future endeavors. G-d Bless. YTB is not a travel company it is a network marketing company, huge difference. When you care to have the very best you seek out the best, it is just that simple. Funny a gentleman hung up the phone on me because he was not interested in ANYONE who did not have $499.99 to join YTB..how sad is that? 508 210 3117 call me anytime and I'll show the best of you what we have and then you decide. To your success.
Rick
April and May 2007
A. In April 2007, 6,468 Reps who were not PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $541,276.02, an average of $83.71 per Rep. B. In May 2007, 7,729 Reps who were not PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $722,471.85, an average of $93.48 per Rep.
Amount Reps
$1 to $50 4,452
$50.01 to $100 1,030
$100.01 to $200 589
$200.01 to $500 302
$500.01 to $1,000 58
$1,000.01 to $2,500 33
$2,500.01 to $5,000 4
$5,000.01 to $10,000 9
Amount Reps
$1 to $50 5,258
$50.01 to $100 1,235
$100.01 to $200 767
$200.01 to $500 386
$500.01 to $1,000 45
$1,000.01 to $2,500 30
$2,500.01 to $5,000 6
$5,000.01 to $10,000 1
Over $10,000 1
A. In April 2007, 6,765 Reps who were PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $5,718,673.69, an average of $845.33 per Rep. B. In May 2007, 5,380 Reps who were PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $6,723,426.64, an average of $1,249.71 per Rep.
Amount Reps
$1 to $50 2,707
$50.01 to $100 1,033
$100.01 to $200 843
$200.01 to $500 768
$500.01 to $1,000 200
$1,000.01 to $2,500 780
$2,500.01 to $5,000 230
$5,000.01 to $10,000 99
Over $10,000 103
Amount Reps
$1 to $50 809
$50.01 to $100 1,162
$100.01 to $200 872
$200.01 to $500 915
$500.01 to $1,000 247
$1,000.01 to $2,500 868
$2,500.01 to $5,000 285
$5,000.01 to $10,000 85
Over $10,000 137
Includes 94 YTB Directors receiving PowerTeam commissions, an average of $22,108.82 per Director. Includes 94 YTB Directors receiving PowerTeam commissions, an average of $23,798.22 per Director.
C. Leadership($1,000) and Dream ($10,000) Bonuses paid in April and May of 2006 and of 2007 and year to date in 2006 and 2007 are as follows. (Leadership and Dream bonuses are included in PowerTeam Leader commissions above).
Date $1,000 Leadership Bonus $10,000 Dream Bonus
April 2006 560 0
April 2007 1,430 19
May 2006 450 8
May 2007 1,248 23
2006 Jan-May YTD 2,193 5
2007 Jan-May YTD 8,055 121
Note: All YTB Reps, including PowerTeam Leaders, have permanent positions with no quotas, fees or required purchases. Rep commissions are paid exclusively on the enrollment of new Referring Travel Agents (RTAs) and on their monthly license fees. Approximately 170,000 persons have become YTB Reps since the inception of the company in February 2001. The number of “active” Reps, those who have received commission checks during the past twelve months, totaled 39,481 at May 31, 2007.
9 July 2007 - Doing his job, Thayer Lindauer, legal counsel for Your Travel business (YTB).......... www.mlmwatchdog.com/py...
Please tell me why anyone would want to JOIN a company being sued that has 78% drop out???
Yes, 78% drop out. YTB is NOT a TRAVEL COMPANY it is a network marketing company.
The owner sold 1 million dollars worth of shares to buy back his house. That is no one I'd like to be involved with, not sure about you. THE PEOPLE ON THE TOP ARE MAKING ALL YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PART WITH YOUR MONEY SO FAST AT $500.00. 5 OR MORE OF YOUR TOP LEADERS ARE JUMPING SHIP..WHY? DO YOU ALL HAVE BLINDERS ON? YOU FALL FOR ALL THE NONSENSE? I know a few people also who LOVED YTB that is until they saw the difference and ran so fast away from YTB because they now realized it was not as great as the thought it was, THAT THEY WERE LED TO BELIEVE IT WAS. I would like to know on your team, how many are not sponsoring because of the high entrance fee? That alone should tell you something. They changed the compensation plan 3 times when in their bill of rights it says they never will do that. It is a recrUITING business and that is why they are being sued. They sure do not have a clean slate. I like making money with people, sorry folks I do not like making money off of PEOPLE. Take off the blinders, check out an honest company you can TRUST that does not need to hype people and take $500.00 hard earned money that people need to survive with. Average people need to be making money and that is what we have for the average person to be able to make some great money and RIGHT AWAY not have to wait til they find the person willing to part with $500.00 only to have to wait and wait til they can find another willing to part with $500. 78% drop out..NO THANKS. I'D MUCH RATHER GIVE MY MONEY TO CHARITY TO HELP OTHERS LESS FORTUNATE, CHANGE THE WORLD ONE PERSON AT A TIME AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROSPER AND EARN SOON AFTER JOINING. What are you waiting for..check out the BEST leave the rest. You'll NEVER know until you do that.
Wishing you all health, happiness and success. Let me show you the way.. the right way. 508 210 3117 or Heartprints143@yahoo.c... I look forward to hearing from you.
SEEK OUT THE DIFFERENCE PLEASE BEFORE YOU SAY HOW GREAT SOMETHING IS. YOU CAN ALL LOVE YTB TIL YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST COMPANY IN THE WOLD IS.
Just and advice don't waist your time defending or saying bad things about any other company. Who's sold is sold, no more no less. You're not going to convince them to leave and join yours. It's not going to happen. Now, from time to time I go to other business opportunity meetings to see what's new and also to maximize my inactive distributors list. Meaning that if find the right opportunity that doesn't affect my own company (same products) I might join since not all the opportunities are for everybody. I'm just trying to be a true open minded mlm business man.
When I went to the YTB I was very interested because I travel at least 12 times a year promoting my business. So, the leader was very impressed with me also and of course tried to convince me that YTB is the best. Of course, for me my biz is the best, but in the best interest of me maximizing my inactive distributor list and making a few more bucks I offer this to him. I'll sing up with YTB and work with the 300 good leads that already bought something from me if he (the YTB leader) find my first 6 people. That means that the very first person I'll sponsor will be in my power line or power group therefore maximizing my profits. It's all about business. For some reason he got offended, he didn't agree and accused my of being selfish and told me that YTB was better that my company. I can go on but let it rest assure that like I said before my biz op is better than yours like for you yours is better than mine. All I wanted was to do a little biz transaction. If YTB is as good as he said it is then sacrificing 6 people for a possibly 100 to 200 new reps. (I can 't guarantee that my 300 + inactive distributors will join but I feel that it wasn't a bad deal.) In conclusion I think this, just my opinion, though. Yes, you have to be loyal to your biz, only the loyal will make it but at the same time you need to be open minded and see that opportunity will knock in different ways. If you are doing YTB and feel like my deal is a good one please contact me. ralph_r_espinosa@yahoo... Please, I have purchase the POP form yahoo and this go to my outlook. Do not put me in auto responders, do not send me YTB deals or any other company for that matter. If your proposal is good I'll be in contact with you. Otherwise I wish you luck with YTB or whatever company you're working at.
Ralph Espinosa
President, World Internet Network, LLC
What you were proposing sounded unethical and dishonest. No wonder, the leader got offended. I hope you are not conducting your business that way. I don't believe "it's all about business." Remember why Enron collapsed? There were a lot of leaders who thought about "business" first before thinking that there are people who are working for that business. I think business leaders should hold themselves up to the highest standard and look out for the people who works in that business. I don't understand why you would even think about having the YTB leader sacrifice six people to get a good deal from you. Does that mean that if you see a good deal, you would be willing to sacrifice six of your people. You wanted him to find you six people to "maximize your profits?" I don't know where you learned your business ethics.
Not to mention that you were trying to trade your inactive distributors list...you being the president of a company, trying to make money of those people you were supposed to help and motivate. I don't know, but it has a bad smell to it. I wouldn't want to be involved with somebody with that kind of disposition. I hope your people succeed. I am just doubtful of your values and integrity as a leader.
I apologize, I do not mean to be judgemental. But that is how it appears to me.
Good Luck to your business and I hope it survive. I just worry about your people.
--Concerned and Alarmed
I don't want to get into all of the "mine is better than yours" arguments. All I want to say is, I've been in YTB for 18 months and was never able to get out of my "first team" to get to my "power team" because the $500 was too much for a lot of people. I got into this new company that Heartprints is talking about and all I can tell you is i've made more money in the last month with this company than I made in the 18 months with YTB. I base my decisions on the "proof is in the pudding" and which one did I personally find easier to build. Also my upline from YTB is finding about a 50-70% drop out from YTB and a lot are, in fact, switching over. This new company is much less expensive to join and the residual is amazing! Plus there are about 6 other ways to get paid. Anyone wanting more info please email me at wizzardofahs@hotmail.c... and i'll lay it all out for you. Let me know in your email and i'll send you the link to a short video that will blow your mind! Regardless of which company you swear by, at least take the time to check out your "competition" and make a truly informed decision. Have a great day all! Best of luck in all you do!
DT
Well, then I suppose you can sell ice to the eskimos, can't you. The point of my post was to explain how much easier my new business (TraVerus) is compared to YTB. You see, the great thing about Network Marketing is that you DON'T have to be a Sales Person to be able to create a large successful downline. You see, for my NOT being a Sales Person such as you, I've been able to create a much more successful business with TraVerus than I could with YTB. That just goes to prove how easy it is for anyone to be successful in TraVerus. I listen to 2 of my old YTB upline that switched to TraVerus tell me how more and more of their YTB upline are quitting while they keep getting larger and larger with TraVerus.
I'll say it again like my previous post. I'm not attacking anyone and I'm not saying mine is necessarily better or worse than what anyone else is doing. I'm talking about what it is doing for ME! 18 months is YTB with 5 in my downline (and as for sales ability, I booked $40,000 in retail travel.), and 1 1/2 months with Traverus and officially 53 people in my downline. Please don't talk to me about what you are "on track" to do. Talk reality. If I were to talk about "on track" then I guess I'll have 1000 people in my downline by September. I only talk in real terms, not what I think I'm going to do. Those of you looking for a business where you don't NEED to be a salesperson, check out traverusmovie.com and get back to me at tripsnmore.com and together we'll build an empire! Good luck in all you strive for!
I figured some of you would like to read it!
Rick
Your Travel Biz
YTB
Listen folks who are looking for a secure place to hang your hat. We have over 500 people from YTB but YTB DOES NOT have ANY of us in yours. That tells me volumes, you know it and we all know it. I've talked to many who dropped out because your drop out rate is 78%. That tells me something is wrong. How many do you think are willing to part with the high price of joining at the rate of $499.95.. What does one get for that kind of money.. promises that people buy into and then are so sorry. I have them on my phone every day, my phone rings off the wall with people who made nothing, lost their shirt in fact and bought YOUR stocks and lost so much money in that. I wouldn't watch CNN if you paid me. They are the worst reporting ever.
Ladies and Gentlemen,
You want to see a great program just get in touch with me and I'll show you. I did not post here to gain your people ever. I'm doing very well. Cost to join our program the cost of a good pair of shoes. My main purpose is to save people SAVE their hard earned money and don't throw it away. No company is worth that kind of money. I had a gentleman hang up on me on the phone saying if one hasn't got $500.00 I won't even talk to them. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. It tells me one thing and one thing only, NO COMPASSION for others. I'm a humanitarian, everyone deserves an EQUAL opportunity to earn extra income...part time or full time.
Please get in touch with me so I can show you so you can compare. I won't convince anyone of anything the facts tell the truth.
I don't want any ill feelings at all..JUST SAVE YOUR MONEY PLEASE.
suema2006@gmail.com
781-665-0710
I'll show you the differences, I'll show you where the average person can make money right away. No experience necessary. People who never made money before in their lives are makng it with a true and honest program. We have the best comp. plan in the Industry... proven, not just saying it, I can prove it.
Thank you for your time, keep your money in your pocket folks. Don't be taken.
This company has/is changing lives if you work it. Be smart and keep building and save your checks/money however you want to put it.. But we all know stocks are risky, furthermore you make money upfront so the return on your investment is awesome. Only if you follow the model but if you re-create the wheel then O-Well you will have some SOB stories like some of you.. LOL..
When a company goes public and sells stock it only means one thing..THEY NEED MONEY!
Who buys the stock..of course the people involved in the company selling the stock. When 1 million shares are sold to by the owner to buy a building, there is something wrong. Think about the writer of the original article here. If there were no RED FLAG none of us would be here posting, correct or not?
I'm only making a suggestion to just take a look and check out your competition, nothing more. Competition is great, it separates the men from the boys.
Anyone have this answer, I'm just curious? Why would approx. over 500 people jump over to another company if it the company they were with is so GREAT? THERE IS A REASON FOR IT WOULDN'T YOU SAY? You do not have anyone in our company going to yours..does that tell you something or not? What am I missing here? You have nothing to lose, everything to gain if it is your choice to just check it out.
If you dare to compare I'd like to show you, no obligation ever. You'll never know if you don't check it out...right or not?
invest IN YOURSELF AND SEE THE DIFFERENCES..DARE TO COMPARE! The proof is in the fact that so many have left your company, why? Why do you think?
I'd like to say thank you to all of you who posted here and wish you the success you deserve whatever company you are involved with. Let it be known here and now that I'm only watching out for thou fellow man/woman, believe it or not, your choice.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
Curious Traveller
The more Travel Agents there are the more buying power, the more travel cruises, vacations packages, air, condo rentals, car rentals, hotels etc booking more business. The more business we drive into the vendors/consolidators the lower the price. It is a very diversified industry. We also get discounts at resorts when we buy from the hotel gift shops etc keeping in mind they do not have to give a discounts but they do very often.
For More information contact me Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
Folks, did you know 85% of that money goes to only 3% of the people, the top earners, what does that tell you.
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Folks ours is $119.95. How many people do you think you could get with that huge difference? You know the answer. We make money "with" people not "off" people. To not allow the average person a chance to earn income doesn't stand a chance with me..now you do what you think is righ , join the company you desire, your choice. Ground floor is where you want to be and not in a company that is going on 7 years old. Imagine what you would be worth if you were a founder in Amway, Mary Kay, Avon etc.
We care about people and we make it feasible for the average person who never made any money in network marketing to earn money with our company. Don't get taken please, put your money back in your pocket. Check us and compare and you will see the differences, your choice where you'd like to be.
You want to be careful with these companies who charge exorbitant up front joining fees. You don't want to make the top people wealthy now do you?
You want to fall for "hype" by all means go right ahead, be my guest. Keep in mind you want to be a CTA and we have that position unlike other companies.
At any rate whatever you decide is best for you I wish you success and I mean that sincerely.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
When did I hang up on you? You can join ytb for free as an independent Rep. I would have never done that....
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
How soon you forget you hung up on both of us. We were on a 3 way call with you and when we mentioned the fee your company charges you indeed hung up on us..You simply stated you don't talk to ANYONE who does not have $499.99 and hung up. . There were the 2 of us not just one on the call. You'd never do that you say, interesting you say that but you did indeed hang up on us.
. We were interested in your thoughts and we asked very nicely questions you were not willing to answer. I will not discuss this any further. You did not have the decency even to apologize. So be it.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
suema2006@gmail.com
781-665-0710
I work with a group of people and my job is purely the internet marketing aspect. I can assure you that nobody hung up on you and the fact that you mention, "I will no discuss this any further," makes it sound like you are not telling the truth. If you were hung up on, I do apologize. We talk with well over 20 people each day on the phone and reply to several emails. I can't imagine my associate hung up on you after stating we do not talk with anyone that does not have $499.99 to sign up. We have put several people in the business as independent reps which is a free signup and we spent time with these people. Also, we help RTA's that aren't even in our downline.
Once again, I do apologize if this indeed happend.
Thanks
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
314-265-9732
There were two of us on the call to you personally. You told us quote..if someone does not have $499.99 I do not want to talk to them..click..and you hung up.
That speaks volumes about you and your integrity. You mentioned nothing about joining for free. The fact I do not want to discuss it further is because I didn't want a bigger conflict than was already stated. I always tell the truth because I do not believe in any hype or lies. There is no need of it. I have no reason what-so-ever to lie. My integrity is worth much more than any company or money or anything else for that matter. I have an excellent reputation and I protect and uphold it. I can sleep very well at night knowing I have not lied to anyone. By the way, adults do not hang up on people no matter what. We were not rude in any way, we were just asking some questions.
I treat people the way in which I wish to be treated. I also would never do anything to hurt anyone. I'm a humanitarian and I care about ALL people and I treat them all equal.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
suema2006@gmail.com
781 665 0710
It seems as if your just trying to bash YTB and reps with lies. You cannot honestly say that I hung up on you because I have never talked with you. My associate handles ALL calls and I spoke with him today. He mentioned that your claim is false. So instead of making up lies to make yourself sound like you have a better opportunity, focus your time on another comment board.
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
We are not bashing YTB with any lies. Why don't you fess up to the fact that you in fact did hang up on me and Susan. Is your associate name Rick too, hmmm We do not have to make up things or lie. Competition is wonderful it separates the men from all the little boys who are on a power trip and need to get noticed and will do almost anything including lie to get noticed. Let it be known here and now Mr. Rick that you in fact hung up because you don't talk to anyone who does not have $499.99, YOUR entrance fee to join YOUR company.
I asked for Rick when we called and you said I'm Rick. Maybe you need a check up from the next up, not to be rude or maybe your memorty failing you. You don't answer your calls, do you have ghosts in your house by the Rick that talk? Why did you apologize if you did not hang up on us? That is strange.
I left it up to the individual what ever company they want to join is fine with me.
Let's all face it I was not the one who started the beginning of this column. It was done by Andrew Left of stock lemon.com He must know what he is talking about otherwise why would he raise a RED FLAG here?
I'm not bashing YTB where on earth did you get that idea or notion? My integrity and my associates is worth its weight in GOLD. We do not have to lie, we have nothing to lie about. Aren't you a great company, if so no need to lie. The truth shall set you FREE.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
suema2006@gmail.com
781 665 0710
Why don't we wish each other good luck and good fortune instead of waiting for a company to fold down.
Why don't we hope that travel industry and any other industry prosper, so that we can all prosper?
In my aspirations to be a better person, I again started to read before I go to sleep the book "Your Best Life Now" by Joel Osteen. On p. 124, I read the heading "Guard what you say." It says in that page according to the Scripture, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and you will eat the fruit thereof." To quote, "In other words, you create an environment for either good or evil with your words, and you are going to have to live in that world you've created."
I am sorry, I do not mean to preach. I shared that page because I can humbly say that I need to improve myself first before I can ask somebody else to improve. And I know that to be a leader, we need to lead by example. We set the tone for our group. If the leader is negative, so the team will be.
If I am am building a team, I would like to be positive and motivating...a dream builder not a dream killer. In my networking group, many businesses are represented. But we support and motivate each other. Sometimes, there are similar businesses. Yet never, we never put anybody down. We applaud each others efforts and recognize each other's efforts.
I didn't mean for my post to be so long, but I felt that I should say something. I don't think too much negativity can do that much good to anybody.
To leave with a positive thought: "Be prepared to receive God's blessings." --by Joel Osteen (Your Best Life Now)
Peace be with you!
--Jenny
jennyspumpkinpatchtrav...
jennyspumpkinpatch@ca....
I did not post it or write it. After all is said and done the author must have knowledge of something and checked it out thoroughly before posting it here, correct or not? I'm quite sure it has to be the truth because of the consequences involved in divulging and writing such a post.
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I'm sure the person felt it was the right thing to do. I believe it was to send out some sort of reality check, message for anyone and everyone to take notice here and to be aware that something is going on and to be warned. Why else would anyone post something like this?
To assume that someone is negative without knowing the truth about that person is an assumption about that person is not in the best interest of anyone involved and not based on the truth. If you read my other posts you would see my wishes for their success and letting people decide what is best for them. I do not think that is negative but then again that is my opinion. Right or wrong I have been telling the truth because I have no reason to do anything different than the truth. I'm not here to bash anyone or any company. Just to have anyone who desires to compare and see the differences. It is up to every individual to make up his or her mind, do their due diligence what is right or best for that individual based on the TRUTH. No two people think alike anyway however it has to be based on true facts. It would be a very boring g life if we all liked the same things or felt the same about everything.
If I have been unkind to anyone then they must have taken my words in the wrong context of what I was trying to convey.
I'm sorry to anyone if in fact I have offended, it is and was not my intention to do that. I have no hard feelings towards anyone here or anywhere else.
My reputation has been and always will be that of honesty and integrity. Integrity is worth more to me anyway then any company or any money earned or not earned. I have excellent work ethics and I do not think or act in a negative way. If you think that of me then you do not really know me at all. I love what I do and it is reflected in how I conduct my life and those who have chosen me as their leader. I lead by example and want only the best for them and always help them. We all work together and help each other. I have many references if anyone here or anywhere would like them they are by request.
Again I wish you all the best that life has to offer all of you whatever your decisions in life are, what is good for you and or your family. We all have rights to our own opinions. Remember...Freedom of speech.
G-d Bless each and everyone of you. I hold no grudges against anyone.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
508 210 3117
Rick
www.ytbsource.com
Bashing a company so you can promote your own is kinda weak too. Its not as if there is going to be a drop in market share if you just talk about the benefits of what your company has to offer. There are lots of people out there and infact, they'd rather hear the good than the negatives and excuses.
We all have differing opinions but lets play nice.
ytbtravelworldwide.com
I got into this because I wanted to own a travel business and I like what I sell. Everyone wants to go on vacation or go on a trip.
It is up to each individual to know your own skill and knowledge when it comes to selling. If you buy a YTB travel business, you must put in the effort to make your business successful. There are no TV commercials to do it for you. There are no self selling products. Marketing and good sales people sell the product.
I can answer any question regarding YTB and the benefits of owning a travel website.
James
2globetrek.com/
reservation@2globetrek...
Want to be an instant travel agent? Beware!
While travel certainly has some perks, most of them are going the way of the dinosaur. I am sure my pharmacist has some perks, but I don't see any "clubs" or "become a pharmacist" ads. Maybe travel is an easy target. Maybe the MLM outfits feel there are more gullible people that have an interest. Most true professionals are in the business for the love of the business. Ask anyone who has been around for more than a few years.
While these schemes pop up all the time and disappear as quickly as they appear, two of the biggest current offenders are YTB (Your Travel Biz) and World Ventures. Apparently, there is another "club" with an "insta-agent" option launching in October called eTrips Network.
All profess to offer wonderful discounts and perks that, in most instances, will never materialize. In addition they claim to provide "identification" cards that will reap steep discounts on personal travel. I have yet to speak with someone that can convincingly verify any of their claims. As my mother has always said, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." For more enlightenment, visit the Web site scam.com and do a search for "travel opportunities."
That is not to say that one can't earn a living selling travel from home. There are thousands out there that do it every single day. With the growth of online sales and the reduction in brick-and-mortar storefronts, many of these displaced agents have gone home. You can, too.
There are many legitimate "hosts" that will facilitate this and work with you to achieve your goals. They will not fill you with false promises and inflated numbers. They are interested in selling travel. They work with the suppliers to build their collective businesses and relationships. Yes, they take some money from you, but you need to review the programs and decide what is best for you.
Some of the reputable host agencies are America's Vacations Center, Magellan 360, Cruise Planners, Nexion, GTM Travel Group and Travel Planners International. But realistically, if you want to make any money in any industry, you must be willing to work at it. Period. If you want a good list of reputable companies to begin a career in travel, check out the list maintained by the industry trade publication Travel Trade.
12 Questions to ask before joining up for any travel opportunity:
1. What is the initial fee?
2. What is my bottom-line monthly cost?
3. How often will I be paid?
4. What percentage of my sales do you retain?
5. How long have you been a host agency?
6. Can you give me five members to contact for a reference?
7. What professional affiliations do you hold as a host?
8. What training do you offer? In house? Online? Phone? Mail?
9. How long is the contract?
10. Do I actually sell travel?
11. Do I need my own insurance or am I covered under yours?
12. Will you put these claims in writing?
No. 12 is the most important one.
You also might want to check out the company with your local consumer protection agency, state attorney general and the Better Business Bureau, not only where the company is located, but also where you live. These organizations can tell you whether they have received complaints about the work-at-home program that interests you.
But be wary: the absence of complaints doesn't necessarily mean the company is legitimate. Unscrupulous companies may settle complaints, change their names or move to avoid detection. I know of one company that was a refrigeration company before becoming a travel company.
And to the naysayers out there, I challenge you. If you can prove the claims of the riches promised, I will publicly eat crow in a future column. Just e-mail me some redacted documents — bank statements, monthly commission checks, etc. Go on, I dare you. I double-dog dare you! The ball is in your court.
But until then, my advice to the consumer and someone looking to get into this business can be summed up in one word: BEWARE!
John Frenaye is the president of JVE Group, Inc., a diversified company based in Annapolis, Md. With nearly ten years as a senior executive in the retail travel industry and a background in business management, he writes about the travel industry as an insider with an outsider's perspective. E-mail him or visit his Web site . Want to sound off about one of his columns? Try visiting Frenaye's forum.
“Envy shoots at others and wounds itself”
-English proverb
Once again, my question is this... Even if all things were equal, which travel company would you be able to market easier? One that charges $500 to sign up, or one that charges $119.95. I was with YTB for 1 1/2 years. I was only able to sign up 5 people. I made no money networking that business. I booked $40,000 in travel and earned commissions of approx. $1000.00. I checked out Traverus solely as my competition and when I saw what they offered I had to switch! Not only did I switch, but my YTB sponsor is down from 108 people to less than 40 now. I've been with Traverus for 2 months and have earned more than that in networking so far and that money is now a residual income for me so i'll continue to make at least that every month. Folks, YTB is a Network Marketing company that is trying to use travel as their "product". Traverus is an actual Travel Agency that got into the Networking business. We have so much more clout in the industry in such a short time. I'm seeing hotels offering travel agent discounts when I tell them I'm with Traverus more so than when I was YTB. Example, Pasadena Ritz Carlton $320 per night. My travel agent discount with Traverus is only $160 per night!Bottom line....whichever you choose, I certainly wish you the best! In my experience, Traverus as a company and as for compensation blows YTB away! If you want any info, please feel free to email me at wizzardofahs@hotmail.c... I'll answer any questions you may have about either company and help you make an informed decision. Either way, again, good luck in all you do. Let's quit our 9-5's and tell our bosses to kiss our butts! Can I get an Amen to that?!? Take care!
Alan
traverusmovie.com
tripsnmore.com
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Alan
Your opinion is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. I'm not going to comment on anything you said except one point. When you talk about Traverus being $399 to get the same thing as YTB, you are mistaken. With YTB you pay $500 to join, then you go to an 8 hour meeting and pay an additional $149 to get to CTA. With Traverus, you can sign up for only $119 and do some networking to become a CTA or you can sign up immediately as one for only $399. So, to compare, a CTA with YTB pays $649 and a CTA with Traverus if they want to start out as one pays $399. I say this because i've experienced both companies. I wish you the best. I only ask that when you try to explain something on here that people are going to want to believe, please get your facts straight first. Thanks, and good luck with your business. (Traverus also has a back office where "all your stuff is kept")
Keep those cards and letters coming folks.
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Alan
wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
traverusmovie.com
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That being said, I have thrown down a guantlet and asked for someone, anyone to prove to me that they are making decent money selling travel with YTB. Not the website recruiting...travel. To date, I have received nothing substantial. One woman told me that becasue YTB is a public company they cannot be a scam...it is illegal for them to be a scam. Another told me that she was not going to divulge her travel commission, but to be sure that they were ample enough for her to purchase a "Cocaine White 2007 Bentley". Somehow I am pretty sure that Bentley Motorcars does not offer a "Cocaine White" color chip.
I do not deny that people are making the bug bucks selling the downline websites. I am still looking for proof of the travel sales. They claim to have paid out over $1M in commission in July. But look at the numbers. They only paid 17,000 reps an average of $57.05. So that means that the remaining 93,000 reps (or whatever convenient figure they want to use at this point) earned ZIP for their $50 a month investment plus the $499 initiation fee. The average commission earned per RTA was even DOWN from 2006. Looking forward, they intend to pay out almost $2M in commissions for booked travel---to 32,000 reps. So again, there are now 70,000+ reps that are earning the big ZIPPO. Again, the agerage earning rep is earning $62 a month. This is NOT an opportunity to me.
YTB is fond of saying they were #35 on the Travel Weekly list. Well, first off it was self-reported so the figures can be whatever they want them to be. But, in their defense, they were honest and said that of their $225M in sales that $175M of it was from website sales. That leaves $50M in travel sales. So how are they a travel company? That is like McDonalds calling themselves a video rental company because they have the red boxes out front. I am sure that if they could include their food revenue with the video revenue, they could surpass Blockbuster as the lead dog.
It is a classic pyramid scheme operating on the fringe of legality. I imagine that it is legal because there is indeed a product being sold--no matter how insignificant the product is--versus just passing along money up the upline.
The other issue is with the vendors that allow these RTAs to reap industry perks. Not YTBs fault at all--totally the vendors, but again, YTB is skirting on the fringes---they will certify you as a Certified Travel Agent. THe Travel Institute has a certification program called Certified Travel Associate (abbreviated CTA--which YTB convenienently does not use) which creates a lot of confusion.
A lot of grey areas for sure. Stay tuned, I hear there may be some breaking news on this!
It is a classic pyramid scheme operating on the fringe of legality.
I imagine that it is legal because there is indeed a product being
sold--no matter how insignificant the product is--versus just
passing along money up the upline.
well I guess DSA doesn't see it that way.
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get out of the Rat race brother, and explode your financial income.
you know there is a great book out there for you and everybody
else so amazingly skeptical about Network Marketing. "The Ultimate
guide to Network Marketing" by Joe Roebino. Someday you'll get it
and then be doing it yourself, and then saying "darn, thank God I
am not in the Media Industry anymore specilating about a company
I really have no idea about but some stats that got posted by
someone that their not reported something correctly, well no one
is perfect either. Our company isn't perfect, but we're having a good
time making a lot of money. Peace be with you
no it's not 50 dollars right now for only travel agents, but nice try, wait no, nevermind i said that, next thing you know, Traverus will be offering people 50 to join. take care :)
Its just a matter of weeding through the negatives and the bashers.
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$25,000 challenge, anyone who can find a better company with a better compensation plan and no one has come forward and it has been out for many months now. That speaks volumes.
Common sense rules. The facts do not lie.
The original post here at the top says it all. If it were not true they could be sued. When you compare the cream rises straight to the top. According to the Direct Selling Association the average person only recruites 2.3 people. Why is it the top people get wealthy but the others struggle?
Compare and you will all see the differences, facts do not lie they rule. Check us out before submitting your hard earned cash and you too will see the differences. Facts do not lie.
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Thank you all for the enlightening words that each of you have written. Have a great day and enjoy the rest of your lives!
Before you make the plunge with YTB, email me and give me the opportunity to give you a better offer.
wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
I'd rather not discuss it in here.
My name is Alan.
Before you make the plunge with YTB, email me and give me the opportunity to give you a better offer.
wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
I'd rather not discuss it in here.
My name is Alan.
that is awesome dude. But just because you could not make it out
of the First Team, doesn't mean you need to be on a site that is
popping up when people search for YTB on google. I'm sorry dude, or
Alan, but you do not have a better offer. You have a lower price,
that's it. There is a reason we are a little more. We have the better
company and the better management. If you happen to snatch up
Big Bobby here, I hope he does awesome too, but Bobby, you may
have to pay a little more, but I guarantee brother, your paying for
more than just your site. Your paying for your upline and a friend and
120,000 family members and growing. Bobby check this out too,
biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0...
Are CEO got us all into the DSA, read the article. I'm not for sure on
this one, but you'll see a lot of people on here are letting you know
that they do not regret one bit getting involved with YTB. What's
the negative coming from, this wizzard guy that wanted an easier
business to pull people in and maybe one or two more if that. tell you
what Bobby, go meet with Wizzard, and then go meet with your YTB
Potential Mentor/Friend/Family Member and see which one you like.
They'll let you know we're DSA Associated Member now, Publicly
traded on the stock market, Have a Bill Of rights for your benefits, director
level Life Insurance, Medical plan, plus tons more, and are Compensation
plan is the best in the Network Marketing Industry. DSA even states with
thier code of ethics, that we're not overcharging and we don't make promises,
it's all about how much you put into it, and I'm working still but I love doing
this on my off time and on time, oh and the Inbetween time. We are loving this
company and it is so stellar Bobby, I'm telling you this now. If you
find that Traverus is for you, go for it, good luck. But I guarantee
you'll be loving the people of YTB at the national convention and just
the people in your area that are trying to show you thier business
because they now want to share the unlimitless possibilities. We're
here for you, so you have Alan's, and if you lost your YTB Point of contact,
throw me an e-mail and I'll get the information so you can think about it.
I wanted to think about it too, but My wife heard about YTB from 20
different people and she said "No thinking needed". Give your YTB rep a call first
if you haven't called anybody. He or she is the one that made the effort to call
you, and this guy is trying to steal him from your rep doig it the easy way. Sounds
real cool to me. and he'll come back at me by saying he's smiling at me because
he doesn't have time for my BS, and then he'll come back at me by saying how wonderful his Traverus
is, so what dude, go start another website for Traverus so when people search for Traverus, they get your site Alan!
Bobby, whichever you decide, keep your self around poistive people and not the ones that continually try to offer you "better" when
he told all of us three weeks ago, that he is never puts down another company.
I'm kind of seeing maybe a reason you could not get out of your first team on into your
power team, get off of the computer and go share Traverus with others.
jnktravel@cox.net <---there you go Bobby, I'll send you the info and you can still
sign with the other YTB rep and not me, as long as we save you and give you an awesome
company, not a better offer.
Anyway, this is a report that comes directly off of your YTB site...
RTA Earnings Report
July 2007RTAs book travel and travel related products utilizing their private label internet online travel website licensed to them by YTB. RTAs earn 60% of the travel commissions received by YTB. Travel commissions become earned when the customer's travel is completed, not upon customer booking or payment.
1. Active RTAs
Month End #RTAs RTAs active for at least 12 months
July-06 38,092 7,208
July-07 106,102 16,846
2. Number of New Bookings
Month All RTAs RTAs active for at least 12 months
July-06 19,303 3,075
July-07 70,064 8,938
3. Travel Commissions Paid RTAs Active at least 12 months
Month Commission RTAs Av. RTAs Commissions Commissions RTAs Av.RTAs Commissions
July-06 $305,522.22 4,956 $61.65 $143,603.68 1,279 $112.28
July-07 $1,006,512.82 17,644 $57.05 $365,020.18 3,556 $102.65
4. Pending Bookings
Month Pending Bookings Commission on Pending Bookings # RTAs with Pending Bookings
July-07 92,733 $1,996,244.00 32,720
It's probably harder to read on here so i'll help you out.
Average RTA travel commissions from July '06 to July '07 actually went down from $61.65 to $57.05 Not only did it go down, but who wants to be a travel agent for $57/month?
Average Active RTA commissions (which I assume to be from your comp. plan went down from $112.28 to $102.65 in the same time period. Now that appears to me that your average RTA in YTB is working to make $159.70 if I combine the two numbers. All i'm saying about Traverus is that I was able to make a lot more than that in the first 3 months and it's a residual that I will continue to make forever. Again, don't misread what i'm saying here. I'm saying that my experience with YTB was not nearly as good as it is with Traverus. Yes it's less expensive, but that just makes it easier for the average person to get in and build a better life for themselves. As for me going to a YTB site to "steal" people away, first off i'm giving people a choice, and secondly, if you read the heading of the original article on here, it talks about "raising the red flag on YTB".
As for the people of Traverus, I just got back from a 6 day/5 night cruise to Mexico. It was one of the many Member Trips made available to the members of Traverus. We paid $280 for an oceanview cabin which included all port charges and taxes. We had about 250 of the cabins and the people were awesome!!
Lastly, 11 lifes, I found this site by accident when I googled "YTB Scams".
If anyone wants to contact me, i'll explain more about my experiences with both companies so you can make an informed decision.
check out my website at:
traverusmovie.com and then email me at:
wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
Good luck to you 11 lifes, and to all who choose to strive for a better life for themselves in whatever you decide.
time4.the7greatliesofn.../ I hope she will still talk to me after reading it. It strips away the MLM B.S. and sometimes upsets upline sponsors.
Regards,
OZ
As to them trading on the AMX--come on they are at $1.74 a share and tanking. Look at the three month trend. And when the beloved "Coach" is selling shares faster than a hillbillly stomping on a cockroach in his double-wide--it makes for a questionable investment.
If I were sol gullible to buy into it, I might be inclined to get an attorney and see if I can get my money back.
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Don't get hyped up because a business is involved in the stock market, that means that company needs money and only the people in that business will buy that stock. Not a good investment. Check out the Internet and see what the Internet has to offer for Information about the company you are interested in. Be a savvy individual get the facts and get ALL your questions and concerns answered by competent people. Make sure those trying to get you involved are making the kind of money promised YOU.
Respectfully,
Sheila
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Please check out ytbexposed.com
Shame on all of you at TraVerus! YTB looks MUCH better to me.
thesavytraveler.com
When someone spends good money they should know what they are getting involved in, all the facts. They need to know the truth beyond anything else.
No one is asking you or telling you or anyone else which company to become a member of, it is their decision but they need the TRUTH. We are just stating the facts nothing more so consumers will be well informed. I do not think that is bad mouthing any company. I did not tell them nor would I which company to choose, it is all up to the individual. WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY EFFORT TO MAKE US LOOK BETTER, however WE HAVE A $50,000 challenge, if anyone can find a better company with a better pay plan aka compensation plan and not one company of any kind, in a year has come forward. That in itself speaks volumes about any company. Companies should be honest and upfront in every aspect of their business. Their stock is worthless right now...expalin that. Scroll up to the top of this page, what does it say? I did not write that either. "Reality Check" Raising the RED FLAG on YTB International. It is your right and desion not do do business with any one not of your choosing, WE ALL HAVE THAT RIGHT.
For more truthful informaiton contact
me at Heartprints143@yahoo with your name, day and phone number so I can get back in touch with you if you want additional information. There is NO obligation only good solid informatiion and the TRUTH.
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The cost is only 0.35 cents each and they come with your company name and website imprinted on the certificates.
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Think about using these for referrals or give them to customers/clients. You can sell them for a profit to your down-line.
The end user of the certificates has a choice of over 20 destinations to pick from. Take a look at the destinations at the website. www.increasebusinesssa...
They pay a processing fee of $12.00 and the taxes on the room which is about $7.00-$12.00 a night depending on the location.
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One among many other concerns is the emphasis on the "Success From Home Magazine"..with an issue at least in each of the last 2 years dedicated to YTB. This publication has all the earmarks of "bought advertising" yet Reps pass it on as evidence of an independent 3rd party analysis pointing to legitimacy. YTB has so far been prevented from entering Canada becaause IATAN (Canada) will not endorse YTB or give it or ot's REPs IATAN status. This is particularly frustrating because again Reps (and maybe YTB) mislead potential Reps by saying they can get the FAm Trips and other perks of legitimate Travel Agents. YTB identifies their Reps , not as Travel Agents, but Referring Travel Agents. Just as in Primerica where Referring agents cannot act as financial planners, nor can YTB Referring Travel Agents act as legitimate travel agents. It appears that YTB has qualified Travel Agents in other parts of the organization who fulfil this role...but it is YTB's responsibility to come clean about what Referring Agents cann and cannot do and what they can and cannot get in terms of travel industry perks. YTB is ultimately responsible if misleading statements are made at meetings promoting YTB as a business. Again, in closing, there remain too many questionmarks about YTB. Posting rep income data does nothing to prove the legitimacy....lots of really bad MLM models have made a number of reps at the top of the pile wealthy...this does not mean they are honest endeavours...often they are skillfully skirting the law. The money statements cause greed-driven people to get involved.
Regards,
TJ
1. The honesty and integrity of the founder, David Manning, CEO/President
(Mr. Manning's credentials available upon request)
2. The help and support provided to me on an on going basis.
3. The compensation plan is the best in the Industry
4. The $50,000 challenge if anyone can find a better company with a better compensation plan..that is a guaranty in itself about this opportunity, TraVerus Travel.
5. There are 10 ways of earning income and I can take advantage of all of them if I so desire or just book travel only.
6. The member trips huge discounts not available anywhere else. I can travel in luxury that in the past could only be afforded by the wealthy. I can travel more often too wherever and whenever I want to.. Europe does not have to be a once in a lifetime trip.
7. the product Travel is a 7 trillion dollar industry, expected by experts to grow to 14 trillion on or about 2010. Travel is the most researched word on the Internet and 85% booked on the world wide web. travel increases 23& faster than the global economy. With the baby boomers retiring every 8 seconds and will do so according to researchers for the next 18 - 20 years. Their favorite activity is travel and they have the time and the money to travel.
8. I could do this business from the comfort of my home in my slippers if I wanted to. No driving, no gas, no sitting in traffic, no worries.
9. No BOSS looking over my shoulder, I can work for my future, not someone else's.
10 The huge tax benefits.
11. The tools provided to enable me to be successful in a short period of time.
12. I'm paid on the effort i put in for me not for someone else.
13. The HELP from my up line leaders
14. Financial freedom, residual income, you build it ONCE, and have it for a lifetime and it can be passed on from generation to generation. It can bless me and my family financially.
15. Earn money while I sleep.
16. We are all over the world/international, no territorial boundaries. We are in over 40 countries and many of those companies we have the ministry of tourism in out company.
17.I can stop anytime I wish and I still get a monthly check, every month for life!
18. I did not have to be a recruiting machine, could work at my own pace and knew that I could bring in AVERAGE people from all walks of life, without any formal education or financial burden to join and they too could earn significant money and not have to ask anyone for a large entrance fees. We have professionals as well as non professionals joining us every day. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BUSINESS so no one is left out because they do not h ave the money to join.
As J. Paul Getty put it and he was one of the richest men in the world. " I'd rather have 1% of 100 people than 100 % of myself. Colonial Sanders said, "If I can have one chicken store on the corner, I can have them all over the world on every corner". He was over 60 when he made his million.
I'm free to be me, to do what I wish when I wish to do it and not have money constraints. We make money WITH people not OFF of them.
I would love to take you along with me to become financially free if you will see the vision that I saw, I became a member of TraVerus Travel and never looked back. This is the gift I give to you that was given freely to me and now I'm offering it to you so you in turn can offer it to those you love and care about.
"A stranger is only a friend you have not met yet!"
I look forward to meeting you, helping you succeed. I have dedicated my life to making others successful and I'd like to do the same for you. Please contact me for more information and the presentation. I look forward to hearing from you.
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CANUCK MLM'ER, you say YTB should come clean and inform their RTA's on what they can and cannot do. What's keeping you from picking up your phone, calling the coach directly or one of the hundreds of Directors and asking the questions you seek answers on. It's easy to sit back and claim you don't get answers on things when you don't ask the right people for them. As with any endeavor, your success is directly proportionate to the amount of effort you put into it. Zero from Zero is still ZERO........ YTB Baby....all the way.....
As for product....The purchase of a vacation, airfare, hotel or car is the product/service, etc, ....... Just like priceline, expedia and orbitz to name a few..... Winners, e-mail me and I will make sure you all receive what it takes to be part of the next Google in the Travel Industry. There's a reason why this company went from #35 to #20 in the industry in just one year.... It's called, SUCCESS and you can be a part of it...
You'll benefit from 4 major market shifts that are underway:
Baby Boomers: In the USA alone, a baby boomer turns 60 every 8 seconds. This will continue for the next 18 years! The number 1 thing they all want to do with more time is TRAVEL! -******** allows you to meet a need that is going to continue growing.
Exploding Travel Industry: In part because of the baby boomers but also because of so many other market forces, travel is a $7-trillion dollar per year industry and it is growing at 23% faster than the global economy. That's so much money that anyone who works at their business will do very very well. There's finally enough cash for everyone!
The Internet: People are so comfortable buying over the internet these days. They buy cars and even homes -online! Selling travel over the internet is a huge channel in and of itself! This is why companies like Expedia, Travelocity, Orbitz, Priceline, Hotwire, etc. spend millions of dollars in advertising each and every week! Wouldn't you like to cash in on this industry -even getting a very small fraction of the revenue being generated?
Home-Based Business Growth: The single best defense against paying too much in taxes is to have a home-based business. Imagine writing off some of your vacations, because you had to go "see" a property you were going to feature in your travel business. You'd no longer call this a vacation but a PAYCATION!
If there's one thing going here, this company recognizes how promenant YTB is,by replicating many of its features and formats and makes just little changes in how it copies YTB's language. Check out how professional the YTB site is, then read for yourself.
YTB set a world record this past November by booking 12,000+ cruise boat cabins in one day. This has never been done by ANY other travel booking company in the history of travel booking. That's incredible booking power no other company can hold a candle to.....
I have a print out in my hands from Travel Weekly's 2007 Power List dated 6/25/2007 of the top 52 travel companies in the world. Traver us is not even on the list and #52 posts sales of 100 million dollars. Although this list was published in June of 2007, this coming year, you will see YTB move up from #35 to around #20. That's phenomanal growth for any company no matter how the competition paints it. Lets see traver us or any other wanna bee upcomers come close to that "success". As with any company experiencing rapid growth at this pace, there will be bumps along the way. Even Google or MSN had problems.
JMHO
ANYWAY WISHING EVERYONE A HAPPY HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR, 2008. SUCCESS TO ALL.......If you are happy where you are stay..I do not think anyone is keeping you against your will.
You will see a turn around on those bans also...you just don't know it yet....besides, banning one does not prove fault or wrong doing...thats what courts do. Just spiders that come out of the woodwork jumping on the bandwagon so their wanna bee start ups with paid movie star endorsements can create false impressions to make it appear to be a great company....Negative press always begets negative gaukers.
One of the scariest things to steer clear of is doing business with the likes of comedians and low level movie stars who make outragious claims about new businesses. Kinda reminds me of an info mercial. Movie stars and sports figures do not put their name on anything unless paid very well to do so and they use agents to get those endorsements. They make piles of money doing endorsements that create a false sense of security and will tell you anything you want to hear because the more they convince you, the more they make. What makes them a professional in the travel industry anyway when all they do is stand on stage and tell jokes? Preaty soon, they will be professionals in stocks, airplanes, mortagages and vacation packages....LOL
Oh, I forgot, it was the private jet they use to fly around from stand up gig to stand up gig and 250 people in the audiance...Ya, that convinces me they are the right people to follow. I'll bet they received honorary credentails to make it even more convincing they have what it takes.... LOL. No one is forcing you to check out YTB, but when the lightbulb goes off, if it ever does, you will wish you were on board now and now five years from now. Best of luck to those who feel following a stand up commedian on dancing with the stars is your best foundation for getting involved in a start up company. You can bet a large portion of your start up fee is going to pay for their endorsements......
JMHO
We were not banned with IATA, We were not shut down in Rhode Island either. I suggest you take a look at ytbexposed.com
Wake up..those statistics don't hold a candle to us. You have been going down hill since this article above was written. Your stocks have gone way down. Your Coach sold a million dollars worth of your stock and bought his dream home and a building. Your company keeps everything in the dark, many of your members have no clue what is going on with your company. All the negative articles written about your company is not true, are you saying, I rather doubt that. We have a CLEAN record and we are way ahead of where you were at this time. We are not a start up company, we are a spin off of a 26 year old company. We were establishing rapport for 4 years with all the vendors before we went on direct selling Nov. 1, 2006 far from being a start up company. We wanted a good foundation before we went into the direct selling market. We have approx. 2, 000 or more people from your company doing exceptionally well with our company. If your company was so wonderful these people would have stayed with you. The national association of direct selling says the average person only recruits 2.3 people. You have to be a recruiting machine in order to make it in your company. Your company guarantees to make a certain amount of money, impossible for the average person and you have to give up your first 6 to your up line. It What company can even think of guarantying a figure like that and it is not for the average person getting involved in your company. The person who joins us can start earning immediately. Our spokesperson DOES NOT GET PAID and spent 16 years looking for the right company and he chose ours. We would never wish to be involved in your company and no light bulb will ever go off and we would never jump ship to your company. We have thousands from your company joining us but you DO NOT have any of us joining your company.
You know all the movie stars and sports figures and know that no one puts their name on anything without getting paid..you are so WRONG. John O ' Hurley is involved with non profit organizations John does nto need money for being our spokesperson, he joined us because he saw the integrity and honesty of the founder and CEO. Integrity is everything in life, just in case you did not know that. It can't be bought for any price. Our company would never "wanna be" like yours. Companies just do not go around banning companies with out a very good reason they could be sued. If you had any knowledge about companies you would know this fact, when a company goes public stay clear of that company. Spoken from one of the top earners in the industry, he is not in our company by the way either..that is the biggest red flag about your company. You were not banned for the FUN OF IT, they had a good reason. We do not have to be listed anywhere to be successful we are successful on our own merits. One of our top leaders was with your company and when he saw what we offer there was no question which is the better company and he is with us now along with thousands who did the same thing, joined us.
I do not wish you or your company any harm and hope they get out from under the radar but it is highly unlikely at this point. Florida and California also banned your company.
How about the truth for once??? Sounds like it just does not exist.
One does not have to be listed anywhere to have a GREAT company.
My Best wishes to all of you in your endeavor to succeed in whatever company you choose. We are an equal opportunity company and are AFFORDABLE for EVERYONE...it appears you are not by your high fees you charge not only to enter but to be credentialed and you are listed as a "card mill". Anyone can succeed in ours, that is not true with many companies. Take a good hard look at what you type here. I've dealt with many in your company only to find out how rude and disrespectful they are and do not answer questions properly they hang up on you..my experience with many from your company of which I was just interested in getting more information, nothing more.
If anyone would like more information please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... There is never any obligation . I have a very successful enterprise going and do not need anyone in my business. I built my business on my sincerity. If it is your decision to join me in my enterprise I will help you step by step to become successful as I have done before with many people. I've dedicated my life to HELP others in any fashion. It is my motivation to do that. I love what I do. Thank you for taking the time to read this, it is very much appreciated. I've built my reputation on honesty and integrity, it can't be bought for any price.
I have left YTB and I am now a CTA for another company which has a MUCH lower startup cost and a MUCH better compensation package and I very happy I made the move.
If you are interested in learning more, contact me at myrainbowtravel@gmail.... and I will be glad to refer you to information about this opportunity.
Leighton
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If you are interested in wanting to work from home, have support and training - call me. My contact information is inside of my web site - we focus on travel bookings and training you to earn a living with a great company - SIMPLE FACT!!!
Buyer BEWARE...SAVE YOUR $500.00 AND THE $150. 00 FOR THEM HANDING OUT CARDS WITH NO TRAINING. for more information with never ever any obligation please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... I look forward to answering all of your concerns and questions. People who keep everything secretive is worse than anything else, TO ME IT IS A CRIME.
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He also uses PAID movie stars to endorse his company which is not even on the charts with those big league companies like YTB, Travelocity, Priceline and Expedia which YTB is often compared with in Reauters and other well known financial institutions. Why do you think YTB was listed as the 11th largest company in bookings and the 35th largest overall in 2006 and now that 2007 is over, it will be listed closer to 20th. This other start up company doesn't even make the bottom of the big league charts.... as listed in Travel Weekly magazine. Check that out... When small start up companies like traver us emulate the same business model blueprint and design of YTB, it is because it works and is working for YTB. All they do is change things slightly to make it look like it was their business model.... Look at the blueprint of the above start up on their site then look at YTB's and you will see it is a nearly crime in how they copied a copyrighted business model. I agree with User 136947. YTB has a bullseye on it because it has impacted the main stream travel companies which see it as a threat to their sales. This always happens when one company goes outside the mainstream way of doing things, creates an entirely new business model and then makes a huge impact on competition. Traver us is doing the same thing in an attempt to makes its mark in the world of travel.... I challenge all those interested in a huge opportunity in Travel to pick up a copy of the January 2008 issue of Success From Home magazine available at Barnes & Noble and other large book stores before they are all gone and read for yourself how huge YTB truly is. I'd like to see this kind of coverage on this startup company or for that matter, any other huge travel company that's even larger than YTB. If you want the opportunity of a lifetime with a company that is truly making huge changes in the Travel industry, don't go with a new startup that is simply emulating a successful company when you can actually be a part of the success that YTB has created and will be here for a long time to come. e-mail me and I will be happy to send you a free DVD and magazine on me. No cost to you.
Now, because they are having a difficult time in recruiting people, which YTB isn't with over 500 joining every day, the above start up has lowered it's initial startup fee's in desperation of gaining more CTA's. When these CTA's learn that YTB is where this company copied its blueprint from, why join a copycat when they can belong with the leader... It's clear they are desperate but you don't see them changing their blurprint they copied.. This company is still trying to reach 10,000 CTA's. YTB has over 200,000.... Lets compare real numbers....now...
Here is how the above start up announced how they dropped their startup fees. I wonder what the new CTA's will think when they increase it it back to $500 or even a $1000.
Denver, Colorado October 15, 2007 -- TraVer us Travel, one of the leading providers (False and misleading, does not even show up on the charts) of travel services and education in the world,???? what??? announced a major promotion (out of desperation) until they reach 10,000 travel agents. A start-up package that (usually costs)? $399.95 (just $50.00 lower than YTB's) is being offered for the lower price point of $169.90 (This is what discount companies do in desperation for attracting more sales and when it doesn't happen, they usually close their doors.) $119.95 activation fee plus first month's maintenance of $49.95. (I love this part, copied from YTB also.) This is a significant value as agents who join the company before they have 10,000 travel agents will be on the fast track to higher commissions and faster promotions through to the executive ranks. (Another desperation attempt) All you CTA's wait till this guy reduces your commissions when things get tough..... It's often referred to in the industry as a "loss leader" to attract additional sales....
The above company issued the following statement:
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Effective Date - 9:00 PM Central Daylight Time - 10/9/2007
Until - A maximum of 10,000 new enrollees are entered into the
system.
To those of you who read the above garbage from Heartprints123.... I caution you to look at who is promoting the company. You hardly ever see the owner, yet you see all kinds of paid endorsements from movie stars....... Is this where you want to pour your hard earned cash???? Ask yourselves... These movie stars did not join this company because of the small commissions they will receive, or the downlines they will create. They are PAID for telling you what you want to hear and what this companies wnats you to beleive. I am not paid to tell you about YTB. See the difference. I don't receive a paid endorsement as they do but heartprints does not tell you that....
I see a lot of deception and misleading information spewed by this person in an attempt to validate their participation in that starup company.....
All they did was drop the initial start up fee by $50 less than YTB, but they kept the $49.95 a month web site maintenance fees....
If you compare one fee to another, one policy, comp plan and training plan, you will clearly see this company has emulated YTB from the start but just altered things slightly.....
e-mail me at: UPicTravel@aol.com if you want to be with a winner, a worldwide published leader and a company that has truly changed the way it's members do business and are compensated.
IMHO
Any person in the world will tell you what you want to hear when they are getting a percentage of the sales and being paid to tell you........
I do not care what you think you don't tell the truth, and I sleep very well because I do what is right and do not keep anything a big deep dark secret...like a company that does namely YTB. End of story. Best of luck to you, the handwriting is on the wall.
Buyer beware. I do not need anyone in my business. When you tell the truth and are sincere people sense it. I build my business on honesty, integrity and help as many as want to be helped. I help many I don't earn anything on. It is my pleasure and honor to be able to do that for thou fellow human being..not just words, I say what I mean and mean what I say. In life we have choices thank the Lord. I chose an honest company with a CEO with heart not GREED.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
I'm not trying to get you into anyone of these companies..that is for you to decide. In order to make a quality decision it has to be what is best for YOU and your family and I do not know that. It has to be based on research. Check out these sites carefully and I have newsprint with warnings about YTB a report from CNN also
www.mlmlawyer.com/noti...
This info is all public info listed at mlmlawyer.com
Typical American trying to earn some money -Sue and post some info for a handout.... look if you are not doing your job - your fired.. simple
folks look at our press releases www.Ytbi.com/investor/...
YTB is a real company with real people - simple fact
www.8Trillion.com
just click on this link and you'll hear for yourself but from our honest, trustworthy CEO, President and founder a man of integrity.
www.byoaudio.com/play/...
Whomever is going to listen to this, make up your own mind as to which company you wish to associate yourself with. The choice is all yours and I wish you well. It is your choice to decide with is right for you. No one can do that for you. To all those in YTB I wish you the best and hope everything turns out well for each and everyone of you. Having said that if you desire more information with no obligation I would be very happy to inform you.
There is no obligation.
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On a different note...thank you for your serve to protect our country, that is very admirable and you should be very proud to have served our wonderful country..Thanks from the bottom of my heart..I appreciate your service.
I wish you the best life has to offer you. We as consumers have to make our choices wisely, get all our questions answered and do our due diligence to find an honest company. I found my home and you can too.
Stay well and hope to hear from you . The best is yet to come.
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Ted Lindauer ex in house lawyer going after YTB!
Chicago Tribune
IATAN Terminates Relationship with YTB!
Royal Caribbean Terminates Relationship with YTB!
Perillo Tours Cuts Off YTB International
Better Business Bureau, 37 Complaints
Travel News
MSNBC Story
Where is the Ted?
"The Coach" Founder and Owner sells more stock??
YTB - Insider Trading
YTB in Forbes
Who is Michael Brent EX CEO
Stock Dump by YTB Owners
YTBLA.PK
YTB Changes Compensation Plan!
$49.95 to get involved!
YTB - Bill of Rights??
Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum
MLM Watch Dog
World Wide Scam
eXTReMe Tracker
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I wish all of you goodfortune in your endeavors
Here is my email:
KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...
Thanks,
Kirk
I totally agree.... notice how many of Heartprints143 links are starting to fail - as most of the info is bogus
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If you saw our compensation plan you'd run to us also..you can't compare to ours. Most would want to see and learn about their competition but your head is so far in the sad you can't lift it out because if you did..you'd see whe are better. We are also an equal opportunity company who allows the average person to start earning money immediately, can't do taht in YTB admit it already. Many struggle..You are running scared now..Come on over we'll show you the best company. You are a card mill, a joke..and you rob from the innocent by your hype. We do not have to hype anyone. We pay out more commission that you do each and every time. Good luck you'll need it and very soon.
Anyone wanting the truth..go to mlmwatchdog.com or mlmlegal.com
The fact is, YTB will do $750million in sales for 2007. What did Traverus do? Why all of a sudden did Traverus cease's to be a "Travel Agency" and join Network Marketing as "Referring Travel Business"? To ride the coattails of YTB.
Traverus, the fact is you can't win people by telling them how good your company is, only by misleading them and slinging mud. Who wants to be a part of that kind of company.
I have thoroughly reviewed your comp plan. It does not compare. Where in your comp plan do you have the ability to get a $1million cash bonus? YTB gave 6 last year.
Folks, do your homework before joining Traverus. YTB is still the biggest and the best. For those who jump ship, good luck to you.
For those interested in joining a company that will go down in history as the greatest Network Marketing company of all time we welcome you.
Join Team "Time Freedom" Today.
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Listen to what Dr. Bob Seligman PhD has to say:
ytbreport.com/Investig...
Dr. Seligman, for years, worked side by side as Billioniare Barry Dillar's financial advisor to his projects in past history. For those who don't know, Barry Dillar purchased Expedia.com about 3 years ago for 5.1 Billion Dollars. Do you think Barry did his homework about the travel industry? Hum, so why did Dr. Bob Seligman decide to join YTB? Listen for yourselves.
Sorry Traverus, you do not even hold a candle to YTB.
I do not need anyone of you here or anywhere in my business unless they have a burning desire to help others and not deceive them or hype them. We make money WITH people not OFF of them, huge difference. When and if you decide to join us you will see the huge difference and that is why people from YTB are joining us in droves. I'm not asking any of you to leave YTB why would I? Don't need any of you. I have already established a huge team with an honest company, easy to sign up people, and many are former YTB people. Why would they leave YTB if it is such a great company????? People begin to understand an honest company with no need to hype people and we are an equal opportunity company where every walk of life can participate..unlike yours. Many do not have $499.95 to invest in your company. Should they be denied? The answer is NO!
There are many people who can't afford your entrance fee and there is no reason to pay any company such a high fee. I refer you to mlmlegal.com and it simply states DO NOT GO WITH A COMPANY WITH A HIGH ENTRANCE FEE. Why you ask, because 85% of that money goes only to 3% of the top leaders and I'm not and never would be interested in making the top leaders WEALTHY.
Get the facts and stop saying what you have no clue about. If you do not know what you are talking about, because you have not been exposed to our company then you should not shout out to others only what you think it might be. YOU DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY TIME TO FIND OUT. We do not have to have a web site that is outstandingly beautiful, we have a web site that gets the job done and done well. You even charge $150.00 for credentials and even then you can't obtain Certified Travel Agent credentials...you only have RTA's. ADmit the truth ! Stop leading people astray for the good of the top leaders..START CARING ABOUT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MONEY $$$$$$$$$$
We are not asking you to join us, we are informing you of the plain and simple facts. Do your due diligence. It is up to you who you wish to associate yourself with. However, think about how many people you know that has and will part with $599.95 to join a company where they average person struggles. Our average person can make money immediately and does not have to give up their first 6 people to their up line. Face the facts we have thousands who have left YTB to join us..but no one in TraVerus has joined YTB. If that doesn't tell you anything nothing will.
For more information you can watch my teams video at theharvestisplenty.com Step 3
or company presentation at thebestwayintravel.com
any questions or concerns please feel free to email me at thebestwayintravel@gma...
Also why so many are leaving YTB? Explain why all the negativity exists about YTB. Explain this at www.thebestdiscounttra... that VERY FEW reach the top in YTB that only a few make it? TraVerus has thousands from YTB that saw that we have the BEST compensation and they jumped over to us. Why would they do that if YTB is such a great company. Many are kept in the dark in YTB and do not know what is going on. With a lot of hype you get them to join and then they find there is no help, very little training if any at all. What about ytbexposed.com At the very least scroll up to the top of this page and see for yourself, why was this written if it is not the TRUTH? Your company is not easy for the average person to duplicate. We are an equal opportunity company for all. Ever take into consideration that not every one has $500 to join your company? Also please explain why Attorney Jeff Babner lawyer for MLM says in his video to stay away from any company who charges large fees to become a member. Also one of the icons in MLM Mark Yarnell says to stay clear away from companies llisted on the stock exchange? I think he knows and Jeff Babner knows far more than all of us here. Take notice people, no company is worth high entrance fees, it is not a better company because they charge more to become a member. 85% only goes to 3% of the people at the TOP. Our compensation plan leads in the field hands down. Care to take a look? Contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... leave your name and phone number and I'll be more than happy to show you the differences and how you too can earn immediately without having to give your first 6 people to your upline. The facts do not lie, the numbers tell it all.
Best of luck to all of you no matter which company you decide on, it is your choice and only you know what is best for YOU and your family. Remember not everyone can come up with $500 and should they be denied earning extra income? Remember too how easy will it be for you to find those who have this kind of money..Remember to take your test is $150.00 and then you do not have an IATA number or can book a cruise on Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and the many others who banned YTB. Numbers do not lie.
ABOUT US Traverus Travel is one of the leading providers of travel services and education in the world. With our International online travel radio show - Traverus Celebrity Travel Talk - and our leading edge travel portal, Traverus Travel is changing the future of travel.
Traverus Travel has a worldwide network of Independent Travel Agents. We work with licensed bonded certified travel agencies approved by International Airlines Travel Agent Network (IATAN) and Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA), and endorsed by the world's major airlines and travel suppliers.
By becoming an Associate of Traverus Travel you will be able to book travel for yourself, while enjoying discounts on special Associate trips and vacation packages. By enrolling as an Agent, you get many more additional benefits and education tools.
Through our tools, educational services, and online booking engines, our Agents can learn how to become Independent Home-based Travel Agents who can book travel for friends, business associates and themselves.
This allows them to earn huge commissions on travel while they are learning how to prosper as a Home-based Travel Agent. In addition, we provide links to most of the online consolidator's for air, hotel, and rental cars for your convenience in booking these items.
Our Independent Travel Agents benefit from our exclusive relationships with preferred suppliers, which allows even better savings and discounts from regularly priced premiums. In addition, our agents earn a percentage of any trips they create and have the ability to market them through our Travel Portal and Online Radio Show! www.traverus.biz and www.traverus.net
More information available by contacting Heartprints143@yahoo.c... with your name, phone number and email address. Thanks for your time and look forward to hearing from you.
Make this the first day of the rest of your financially FREE life with TIME to enjoy your life and eventually not have to work 9-5 at a job. See you at the top..and remember we make money with youi not OFF of you. Cheers
Did you make Travel Weekly top 100 travel agencies (we did) - again see our press releases. Why would anyone want to go join under anyone that has to sling mud to sell Travel Stores. YTB is a great company and is as good as its people it has working for the company.. the same goes for your company.... do your company some justice and build it on its positive facts.... Build your empire on honest facts... take that from someone whom has been in business for 39 years and has financial success.....For those that want to work with an honest person that believes YTB has the best in the industry working for them, has the best company support, best training and a competitive product contact me for more information....
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YTB International, Inc. Enjoys Record Growth for Reps and RTAs in 2007
Record Commissions Also Set For Field Team
WOOD RIVER, Ill., Feb, 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- YTB International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: YTBLA) ('YTB' or the 'Company'), a leading international provider of Internet-based travel websites and home-based independent representatives, today announced that it ended 2007 with more than 130,000 RTAs, compared to 8,870 in the first quarter of 2005. The Company paid its Reps and RTAs more than $65 million in combined marketing and travel commissions through the third quarter of 2007. This figure represents more than the totals of the past three years combined.
'Since the inception of this company, we have had the vision of supporting our field with outstanding support and travel products. We knew that if we adhered to those core principles, growth for the Company and success for our field would soon follow,' said Lloyd 'Coach' Tomer, Chairman and Founder, YTB International. 'We know that the heart and soul of our Company is our RTAs/Reps, which is why it thrills me to be able to pay out millions of dollars in commissions to the people who make YTB thrive.'
Now doing business in the Bahamas, Canada, and Bermuda, the Company expects the RTA base to grow even more dramatically in 2008. That will be a significant accomplishment, since YTB more than doubled the size of its RTA team from 60,000 at the beginning of 2007. Accordingly, the commissions paid in that timeframe also doubled.
'Thanks to the hard work of our field team, we also saw our first two profitable quarters in the history of the Company last year,' continued Mr. Tomer. 'It is amazing to me to look at the path of our revenue grow from just over $3.5 million for the 1st quarter of 2005, to almost $40 million in the third quarter of 2007. And we know this is just the tip of the iceberg.'
About YTB International
Recognized as the 35th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in 2006 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for travel agencies and home-based independent representatives in the United States, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Canada, Bermuda, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
It operates through three subsidiaries: YourTravelBiz.com, Inc., YTB Travel Network, Inc., and REZconnect Technologies, Inc. YourTravelBiz.com division focuses on marketing online travel agencies through a nationwide network of independent business people, known as 'Reps.' YTB Travel Network division establishes and maintains travel vendor relationships, books travel transactions of online travel agents and affiliates, collects travel commissions and pays sales commissions. Each RTA sells travel through a personalized Internet-based travel website. The REZconnect Technologies division operates as a travel vendor relationship management company and offers franchises of brick and mortar travel agencies. For more information, visit www.ytbi.com/investor.
Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are 'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.
SOURCE YTB International, Inc.
Source: PR Newswire (February 8, 2008 - 4:47 PM EST)
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All news companies have been known to not report the truth it is public knowledge, those who pay them off should be ashamed of themselves. Stay with YTB and enjoy yourself. I don't need or want any of you in my business unless you want to see what we have to offer. We pay out more commission for one than you do, a known fact. Best of luck to each and every one of you who are in YTB I wish you all the best. When one deals with masses of the average person out there that does not have or will not part with $499.95 there is where it lies. We are for the average who never made money in any other company there are making good money with our company and do not have to give up their first 6 to their upline. I'm a leader, motivatioinal speaker and trainer. I do not rely on what my up line does or tells me, I know the facts and the facts and numbers do not lie..You do the match. If you are not a part of our company you do not know what is going on...only what someone tells you and it is not the truth. I know how many have left YTB. I have the proof too.
If you need further assistance I'd be more than happy to do that for you. There is no obligation. Only you know what is best for you, I don't know. We do not hype you, we let you make up your own mind. I'd prefer to communicate by email or phone. Email me your phone number and I'll call you if that is what would be best for you.
Whatever you decide I wish you the best of success and happiness.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
It is people like you that create the negativity about YTB - YTB paid out more in Travel commissions and Marketing commissions in 2007 to its RTA's & Reps than your company made in 2007.
Again - look at the press Releases
biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0...
www.Ytbi.com/investor/...
OH - and what about the 3,500 non-profits using our web site
The National Foundation for Cancer Research (NFCR)
www.travelindustrywire...
Do you think these companies were hyped into joining YTB?
We do not make these press releases up - the facts speak
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
Record Commissions Also Set For Field Team
WOOD RIVER, Ill., Feb, 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- YTB International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: YTBLA) ('YTB' or the 'Company'), a leading international provider of Internet-based travel websites and home-based independent representatives, today announced that it ended 2007 with more than 130,000 RTAs, compared to 8,870 in the first quarter of 2005. The Company paid its Reps and RTAs more than $65 million in combined marketing and travel commissions through the third quarter of 2007. This figure represents more than the totals of the past three years combined.
"Since the inception of this company, we have had the vision of supporting our field with outstanding support and travel products. We knew that if we adhered to those core principles, growth for the Company and success for our field would soon follow," said Lloyd 'Coach' Tomer, Chairman and Founder, YTB International. "We know that the heart and soul of our Company is our RTAs/Reps, which is why it thrills me to be able to pay out millions of dollars in commissions to the people who make YTB thrive."
Now doing business in the Bahamas, Canada, and Bermuda, the Company expects the RTA base to grow even more dramatically in 2008. That will be a significant accomplishment, since YTB more than doubled the size of its RTA team from 60,000 at the beginning of 2007. Accordingly, the commissions paid in that timeframe also doubled.
"Thanks to the hard work of our field team, we also saw our first two profitable quarters in the history of the Company last year,"continued Mr. Tomer. "It is amazing to me to look at the path of our revenue grow from just over $3.5 million for the 1st quarter of 2005, to almost $40 million in the third quarter of 2007. And we know this is just the tip of the iceberg."
About YTB International
Recognized as the 35th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in 2006 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for home-based independent representatives in the United States, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Canada, Bermuda, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
It operates through three subsidiaries: YourTravelBiz.com, Inc., YTB Travel Network, Inc., and REZconnect Technologies, Inc. YourTravelBiz.com division focuses on marketing online travel agencies through a nationwide network of independent business people, known as 'Reps.' YTB Travel Network division establishes and maintains travel vendor relationships, books travel transactions of online travel agents and affiliates, collects travel commissions and pays sales commissions. Each RTA sells travel through a personalized Internet-based travel website. The REZconnect Technologies division operates as a travel vendor relationship management company and offers franchises of brick and mortar travel agencies. For more information, visit www.ytbi.com/investor.
Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are 'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.
Investor Contact:
Garth Russell / Yemi Rose
KCSA Worldwide for YTB International, Inc.
Phone: 212.896.1250 / 212.896.1233
SOURCE YTB International, Inc.
Best to All
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
www.8Trillion.com
I won't convince anyone, get the facts and then you decide.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Contact me and I'll put you in contact with many YTB people, not just a few. There is never any obligation to join us, just get the information and you'll see. Compare and you'll understand why many have left and are leaving in droves. I can prove it too.
People have left your company to join YTB as well... big deal...
In Canada - their government requests that an RTA be called a Referring Travel Affiliate - so what's the fuss. We abide by their goverment rules.
Again why do you try to build your team by posting the negativity about YTB - all companies during their growth will have some problems.
We refer to your type as mud slingers - lets see your company financial statements, how much you paid back in travel and marketing commissions to your field people, see your press releases.... see your corporate structure backbone....
Time will tell - see people are not leaving YTB and joining your company as you claim... hum... call you to listen to the ones that have left..... please spare me the humor...
Are you hiring actors to act like disgruntled YTB'ers like you do to promote your company... funny!!!!!!!!!
Folks - YTB has a product - Travel and more
visit AllenbyFamilyTravel.co... - our booking engine to compare
and do check out the 450 under $250 for roundtrip air and two nights hotel. Two fly Free program, hunting & fishing site, flowers, sporting event & concert tickets, new cars and yes TRAVEL! Our partners - Hotels.com, Hotratehotels, Travolocity, Spring Tours, Patheo international Flight consolidator and many more
All our company information - Stock, SEC filings, Board of Directors, etc is on our marketing site - nothing is hidden
www.AllenbyTravel.com
See - the SEC - Securities Exchange Commission - www.Ytbi.com/investor/ - has done your due diligence for you - our company gets checked out by them on a regular basis as we are publicly traded and the stock has done a three for one split... folks YTB will be the Microsoft of Travel.
Why do 3,500 non-profits use our program? - because we have a product and program that works.
Best to all whom are following this and see you on the beaches and mountains of the World
TravelThe World
www.8Trillion.com
Traverus Really Works!
Traverus Retired me
In less than 1 year!
Traverus is a real Travel Agency Opportunity. Up until Feb 18, 2008 I have worked for Corporate America as a Manager for over 20 Years. Because of Traverus I have now Officially Retired in less than 1 Year working with Traverus.
This Compensation is Amazing! This is a Company where the Average person with little experience can Win in Network Marketing. I have retired and my business partner who is of 27 years of Age has Retired. I want to have more testimonies of people I have helped Retire with Traverus.
Now I can fulfill my dream of Ministry as a Full Time Pastor. I can now help people not only Spiritually but Financially as well. I am So Excited Today. It felt so good to send out this email from work.
Subject: Retirement Announcement!
To: Email Contacts
From: Marcus B
Feb 18th,2008
Effective February 18, 2008 I Marcus B am Retiring from Wells Fargo Bank.
May God Continue to Bless you
Marcus B
If you would like to learn how you too can earn with TraVerus and retire early and wealthy, please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... or call me and I can put you in touch with Pastor Brewer which I had the honor of meeting on our Cruise to Jamaica in January 2008 ($285.00 inc. port charges and taxes. You will be able to hear him first hand how he did it.
CTA Regional Director
508 210 3117
Investigate YTB with Dr. Bob Seligman, PhD
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Best to All
Leighton
www.8Trillion.com
Now to answer the question as to why YTB no longer has the IATA number understand that IATA is a association that's all. The are simply a union of Travel agents. Not a government agency.
The Travel Agents ( TA's for now on ) understand that how people book travel is changing no longer dominated by traditional means.
With the trend shift many of their lives have been changed never to go back to the way it was. YTB with over 135k people doing just a little each is speeding up that trend.
With that many people your bound to have growing pains not to mention a lot of new people who make mistakes.. ( Just like with any new job )
So with that said there has been a few incidents which the TA saw as their chance to slow down the success of a growing company.
They then contacted their MEMBERS IN THE IATA and complained. Which didn't want to lose the membership fees of the TA and to appease them they dropped YTB. YTB is putting in Rules to make sure that the NEW RTA's are trained also FYI YTB has perching power now which means they can negotiate with the travel industry directly so in the future YTB wont need IATA at all.
Next why RC dropped YTB again growing pains because of a few new people doing what new people do in anything marriage, job, kids mistakes were made. Someone at RC who doesn't understand NWM flew off and said that the whole company is a C. Mill because of a few people. Not even thinking about how much YTB booked with them that year or how the company has won there biggest competitions award for excellence 3 years in a row. YTB still has over 10 cruse lines that still welcome and love their business.Now word has it that RC is trying to work a new deal but YTB is not in a rush.
Now please get the facts that's all we ask. There is plenty of people out here for all of us 7 trillion is a lot of money and by 2012 it will be 12 to 14 trillion lets change the world TOGETHER ;- )
Also do you know that without an IATA number you can't book travel? Also Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and IATA would not ban you for simply for growing pains, you know it and I know it and so do a lot of other people know it. The numbers do not lie, people do. I think you can come up with something better than that explanation. However that being said I thank you for at least beilng polite about it. I admire you for that at least. What about all the other negativity about YTB on theh net? You see I have many from YTB on my team so I do know the truth. You seem to side step many facts here. I feel good about we are an equal opportunity for all and that the average person can make a nice check immediately without having to give up their first 6 people before they make any real money. The ones at the top reap all the benefits while the others are struggling. It is a known fact. So thank you for being nice...it shows and tells me a lot about you RTA 4 NWM and it is admirable. If you saw what we have you'd jump ship too guaranteed as so many others have from YTB. Bless you and your team and I wish you success in life and business. I do not wish any YTB people any harm. However if you look at the original post here, that is what started all of this and it is the truth. So let's please not forget that. The stock right now is worthless.
For all of you who wish to take a look at us without any obligation at all just information I'd be happy to show it to you.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Put Alpha in the subject line please.
The issue with the Rhode Island has to do with their state rules just like with the lotto, it's not legal in every state based on the legislation.
Next you are showing your experience or lack when you say you must have a IATA in order to book travel.
Please simply type in IATA CARD into GOOGLE. It will give you the goods on whats going on with having that card.
Next the 6 people that I " Had to give away " My sponsor works with them and I get a 50% match on every dollar they make . If that's being used PLEASE USE ME!!!
Heartprints143 lets be honest every company has people who makes more than others even MICROSOFT. But unlike corp. america you can find as many people who want to be successful as I can. I am sure some people have left your company and gone to another.
CHRISTIANITY has people who leave. That doesn't mean it's bad. Type in " Christianity scam " I am sure it will surprise you, just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true.
LASTLY OUR STOCK! Find out why we have split 3 times. and why we have A and B shares. When you do your home work then you will know why wallstreet doesn't like our stock. Here is a hint A share are for sale B shares are not.
About your company! I am sure it's a great company that people can earn lots of money. Keep up the great work and I am sure you will succeed.
From one NETWORKER TO ANOTHER...If you want people to come to you keep it postive! I have learned that you can catch more flys with honey than you can with vinegar.
We have very strong relationships with the other leading cruise lines, such as Carnival, Princess, Holland America, NCL, etc. Of course we regret RCCL’s decision, but it appears to be unfounded and unjust. We continue to do business and continue to sell travel. We will have sold over 80,000 cruise packages this year and that number continues to rise.
Our status with IATAN has nothing to do with our “accreditation” as a travel agent. Having IATAN status does not legitimize YTB. It did offer an additional avenue for resources and supplier contacts, but it does not effect our affiliation with ARC and CLIA.
Some info about IATAN, IATA, and ARC.
Each of these paragraphs were taken directly from ARC and IATAN ‘s descriptions of themselves as well as IATA’s.
IATA
Air transport is one of the most dynamic industries in the world. The International Air Transport Association (IATA) is its global trade organization.
Over 60 years, IATA has developed the commercial standards that built a global industry. Today, IATA’s mission is to represent, lead and serve the airline industry. Its members comprise over 240 airlines - the world’s leading passenger and cargo airlines among them - representing 94 percent of scheduled international air traffic.
Representing…
IATA seeks to improve understanding of the industry among decision makers and increase awareness of the benefits that aviation brings to national and global economies. It fights for the interests of airlines across the globe, challenging unreasonable rules and charges, holding regulators and governments to account, and striving for sensible regulation.
IATAN
Through the use of its informational and other resources, IATAN provides a vital link between the supplier community and the U.S. travel distribution network. As an IATAN accredited travel agency, you now have full access to all of our products and services. These include Personnel Registration, IATAN Travel Agent ID Card, Personnel Verification as well as educational programs.
ARC
ARC services the Travel industry as a financial clearinghouse, information hub and meeting place for business relationships among Carriers, Travel Agents, Corporate Travel Departments, Industry Suppliers and others. It also provides a means of communication between its participants and important third parties, including industry associations, news media and government agencies. No matter what your role in today's Travel industry, ARC can offer you greater efficiency, visibility and impact.
ARC participants — from start-up Travel Agencies through global Carriers — benefit from the integrity, innovation, cost-effectiveness and excellence built into every ARC product and service.
ARC-accredited Travel Agencies are premium professional Travel organizations.
Having met the rigorous financial, personnel and ticket-security requirements and successfully completed stringent training and specialist testing, ARC-accredited Agencies demonstrate a commitment to the health and growth of their businesses and to the Travel industry as a whole.
Across the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, Agencies of every size, from single locations to multinational operations, depend on ARC to deliver reliable solutions to help them improve their business practices and better serve their customers.
www.mlmlawyer.com/ - new post re:Ted Lindauer
ANNOUNCEMENT
Over the past week Coach Tomer and I have taken the opportunity to communicate openly and frankly about our past friendship and about the future of YTB. We are in agreement as to what must be done to make YTB become what we and others originally intended when YTB began in 2001, that YTB be the biggest and best network marketing company ever and the largest travel company ever. We found that our friendship of over 20 years was still strong, our thinking very much alike as before and our vision of YTB’s future as it was before, strong and boundless in scope.
Coach and I have decided to work together to continue building YTB together. We have renewed our collaboration to build YTB. There is much to do. My concerns have been addressed and I am satisfied that everything which must be done is being done and done well. Coach and I have resolved to communicate with each other more often and more effectively in the future and, especially on my part, to be patient as the coordination of the many aspects necessary to continue YTB’s growth and success are put in place.
Ted Lindauer
Best to all
TravelTheWorld
www.8Trillion.com
WARNING do your due diligence FIRST before you jump into shallow water. This is such a joke about Ted Lindauer and YTB. How come the stocks are worthless? When you see what we offer there is really no comparison.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
Ted Lindauer ex in house lawyer going after YTB!
Chicago Tribune
IATAN Terminates Relationship with YTB!
Royal Caribbean Terminates Relationship with YTB!
Perillo Tours Cuts Off YTB International
Better Business Bureau, 37 Complaints
Travel News
MSNBC Story
Where is the Ted?
"The Coach" Founder and Owner sells more stock??
YTB - Insider Trading
YTB in Forbes
Who is Michael Brent EX CEO
Stock Dump by YTB Owners
YTBLA.PK
YTB Changes Compensation Plan!
$49.95 to get involved!
YTB - Bill of Rights??
Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum
MLM Watch Dog
World Wide Scam
eXTReMe Tracker
-The negativity is mostly for you travel club - see our is a legit corporate publicly traded company -
-It is you whom is misinformed - perhaps you should attend one of our Red Carpet Days or CRTA Trainings
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
notravelmlms.blogspot..../
Seligman claims he is a guest lecturer at Harvard, Wharton, and Stanford. My Harvard source is unable to locate the name anywhere associated with Harvard. A search of Wharton's site turned up nothing as did Stanford. Hmmm.
Seligman said that he was knowledgeable of business practices because he is "a financial columnist" and "a published author". Well, guess what? Not much is coming up on that front either.
Seligman also referenced General Electric and "his friend" "Jack Walsh". Well if he is referring to the former CEO of GE, it is Jack Welch. Now maybe his friend "Jack Walsh" is the guy that sweeps the floors in Fairfield.
Seligman stated that Harvard Business School said YTB was "the business opportunity of a lifetime." Again, no real substantiation there. Looking at their website, there are few references to "MLM" or "Network Marketing" and certainly none to YTB. I have also been told (unsubstantiated) that Harvard Business School has derided MLM as an invalid business practice.
Seligman says that he suspects that Coach, Scott and Kim are "smarter" than Barry Diller and have "outsmarted" him in travel because Barry Diller spent $5B for Expedia, but YTB offers the "same thing" for $500. He claims that YTB is "better" and "provably better" than Expedia. Uhm, OK. As my daughter might say, "whatever."
Seligman claims that the average adult in the US spends an average of 6.5 hours watching television and 2 hours a day on the computer outside of work. His pitch was to cut an hour off of the television and concentrate on YTB and you can make 100X your investment. That "statistic" although he says is provable, this seems very excessive to me.
Seligman, in his closing statement, said that Bill Gates is worth $50 Billion dollars and explains that it is "9 zeros folks". Uhm, maybe it was just a mispeak, but it is 10 zeros. One would think that the closing point in a presentation by a financial guru would not make that error!
A lot of people will say so what? Well, I think this is an issue. Regardless of who originated the Doctor, his credentials cannot be substantiated at all. These same credentials are being used by numerous Reps as they try to recruit people into the YTB program. Without knowing that the credentials are bogus, people will take him at face value. Anyone who may make a decision to join YTB based on this is being duped into the program. I am not sure, but if an RTA wanted to press the issue, I would bet some Rep might be on the look for this. What is more reprehensible is that YTB, by their silence, is endorsing this type of "marketing". GO ahead and tell them anything you like as long as you sign them up.
YTB HAS NO CERTIFIED TRAVEL AGENT POSITION, WE DO
I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST BUT SEE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE BEST. THE TOP LEADERS ARE MAKING ALL THE MONEY AND THE OTHERS ARE STRUGGLING. AMEN
Do you even read the other persons responds? Do you even know what SATIRE means? My last question....HOW OLD ARE YOU 12, 13? Take a deep breath go back & read my last post.....
Did you know those bogs were created to generate leads for their opportunity - seems they bash all good companies as they know that they will show up at the top of the search engines. Say let me know when you are going to be in my neck of the woods so we can meet and discuss why YTB has the best comp plan - see ours is right on the we site - not buried, and we have no up -charges like your company.
RTA 4 NWM - you are right about all the 99% positive news - the other 15 negative is caused by the competition because we have grown and will continue to grow. Again I ask them... where are you on Travel Weekly power list - We made # 35 travelweekly.texterity...
Best to all
www.8Trillion.com
If your company was so great why not claim the $50,000 written guaranty we have???? If you can find a better company and better pay plan, why not just claim the money? No one in over a year has come forward..interesting ? What are you waiting for?? I just do not understand why you would ever think that Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines banned you along with many others and you have no IATA number which means when you go to a resort or hotel and they ask for it you do not get a discount because they do not accept YTB. Why did the Atty General shut down all the web sites in Rhode Island..he did it for the fun of it you say right. You are drinking some awful kind of awful medicine here for sure. You are a "card mill" and that is why you were banned. No Certified Travel Agent position either. Any one can pay to have them listed as anything they want. The truth be known by all those who had a power team and left YTB. Want to talk with them all? I have many on my team and they will be more than happy to talk with anyone of you and tell you why they left. Just say the word and I'll arrange a conference call with the thousands who left YTB. One has to have an easy to duplicate system as I've said many times. Many do not have 5 hundred dollars to invest, many need extra income and can't join because of this.. Many I'm sure have not joined you because they can't afford your high entrance fee..besides the fact we pay out more commission, each and every time...don't believe me, I can prove it..but you are so brainwashed you will not even look at what we offer. So be it, stay with your wonderful YTB. I'm not asking you to join us. If you like/love what you have no problem. I do not like to see people struggle. I sat in a YTB meeting and heard these people say they were NOT making any money, that to me is proof enough. Sure the strugglers have made the ones at the top Rich..easy to see. 85% of the money goes only to 3% of the people..that is why you struggle and you will keep struggling. In order to make it you have to be a recruiting machine, how many do you know that are like that? The direct selling association says the average person only recuits 2.3 people..that is a fact. We have average people earning money right away, they are not struggling either. Success is finding the RIGHT company, the right leadership, the integrity of the leaders. Bottom line, we make money with people not OFF of them, huge difference. Now go back to your smoke and mirrors you present.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c... for more information if you choose. It is all up to you. Only you know what is best for you and your family. Cheers.
YTB is on fire. How is that for numbers and the best compensation plan, EVER!. I have seen your comp plan. It does not compare. I have completed extensive research on your company. Sorry, YTB wins.
People do not be fooled. Traverus is for lazy people who want to make little money quickly and do not want to or do know how to work their business. It is also for YTB ex-pats who keep changing professions anyway. YTB has over a 55% retention rate. If you are will to work your business, YTB will pay you beyond your wildest dreams. I am living proof.
YTB sells travel. Close to $750 million in 2007. We will sell over $1 Billion in 2008. This is through our online travel websites and the incredible people on the YTB Team.
I do not care what business you are in, you are always going to have poor leaders that care about themselves only. They do not train and help their team become successfull. We have the #5 growing team in all YTB because we care about everyone who joins and give them the tools, training and support to succeed. If you are wanting to join a solid company, work hard and make alot of money, then YTB is for you.
Anyone who joins a network marketing business should always interview their sponsors and the Team Members of the team they might be joining. Do not join a team just because your good friend introduced it to you and you feel obligated. If they do not like what they find, don't blame the company because it is most likely the leader. We have proven leaders in our team and our team is prospering because of it. People who join our team put their trust in our leader and we never fail them.
I will check back in from time to time to see how all of you are doing but not very often. I am too busy helping my team grow their business. If you ever have any questions you can always contact me via email, I will respond.
To your Health and Weath,
Kirk
KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...
KirkChaffin.com
Also it is ILLEGAL to discuss EARNINGS. I'm sure you do not know that but it is. I could report you for that, I won't certainly but you need to be careful. You are not allowed to show your checks either to anyone. How are all the people doing in YTB not just a few exceptional ones that are recruiting machines. Each and everyone in YTB does not make that kind of money for sure..you can't kid me, you know perfectly well a small few make that money if at all. The truth shall set you free. We pay out more commission than you do and if you saw our comp. plan you sure do not understand it. Our commissions beats YTB each and every time and yes I can prove it too.
TraVerus is not for lazy people and STOP your nonsense please it is ugly. How would you know anyway you are not in TraVerus? No one is asking you to leave your superior company, stay with it if it is so great for you. It may be great for you but many many are struggling and your attrition rate is much much higher than you say here..Why not try being honest for a change. It might do you some good.
IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YTB HAS BEEN BANNED BY ROYAL CARRIBEASN CRUISE LINES AND THAT IS NOT THE ONLY COMPANY YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED BY. IATA NUMBER ALLOWS DISCOUNTS AT MAJOR HOTELS ETC..WITHOUT IT YOU DO NOT GET THE DISCOUNT. YTB IS NOTHING MORE THAN A "CARD MILL" FOLKS GO TO GOOGLE AND LOOK UP CARD MILL AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT YTB IS ALL ABOUT. YOU CAN'T FOOL ME SORRY KIRK I DON'T BUY ANY OF YOUR NONSENSE. I'M GLAD FOR YOU THAT YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL BUT TRY ASKING THOSE IN YTB THAT ARE NOT MAKING A DIME AND NOT GETTING ANY HELP AT ALL.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CARE WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE AND ALLOW THE AVERAGE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GREAT MONEY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE $500 TO INVEST. LET'S GET REAL HERE FOLKS. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY COMPANY. WE ARE FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST THOSE WITH $500.00. WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT MONEY..0 BECAUSE THE FIRST 6 PEOPLE GO TO THEIR UPLINE. 85% OF THAT MONEY GOES TO ONLY 3% OF THE PEOPLE WHILE THE OTHERS STRUGGLE. The ones at the top are the ONLY ones who benefit.
WE ARE NOT GREEDY WE ARE NOT A HYPE COMPANY YOU PROMISE THE MOON AND DO NOT DELIVER..THAT IS DECEPTIVE.
WHAT ABOUT RHODE ISLAND..THOSE IN TYB FOR RHODE ISLAND HAD THEIR WEB SITES SHUT DOWN AND I'M SURE FOR A VERY GOOD REASON..NOT JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT. BEING BANNED SAYS IT ALL. THE STOCKS ARE WORTHLESS. THE FORMER LAWYER FOR YTB IS BACK..PAID OFF I'M SURE TO KEEP QUIET..YTB DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO DO THAT TO SHUT HIM UP. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE PUBLIC IS STUPID. YOU ONLY BROUGHT IN 67 PEOPLE LAST WEEK AND YOU THINK THAT IS A LOT. WE BROUGHT IN ALMOST 2,000..HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
From Kirk's site his message follows....
How cool would it be to have your own personalized Online Travel Website where you earn 60% of the commissions on ALL travel booked through your site, including YOUR PERSONAL TRAVEL! You just pull up your new Online Travel Website, locate the trip, book and earn 60% of the commission generated.
**********************...
NOTICE HE STATES 60%..AND WE PAY 70% THAT IS ONLY ON ONE WAY TO EARN..WE HAVE TEN WAYS.
HE SURE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND OUR COMP. PLAN HE ONLY THINKS HE DOES ..WE BEAT YTB EACH AND EVERY TIME ON COMMISSIONS PAID. FOLKS PLEASE DON'T LET HIM FOOL YOU, HE IS OUT ONLY FOR YOU MONEY, NOTHING MORE.
It is you and your kind that post many bogus facts about YTb... now lets see... how do you know how many web sites YTB sold last month.... you pulled the number out of the air.... get real and state the real facts.... I do not even have the real number..
so you make 70% of what % vendor commissions and at what level... oh... and the up charges
Why would anyone want to join with you.... facts are facts... and lies are lies
want some facts
go to our investor page - see the SEC filings and press releases.. www.Ytbi.com/investor/ where are yours
You are all full of bull !!!!! And please do not send us those bogus web sites with bogus posts that your kind creates(ever notice other opportunities pitched at the end)
and the stock is not worthless - you still need to take stock 101 to understand what a three for one split means...
YTB paid back its agents more in commissions than your company grossed.... so who is making more money.. see we are about booking travel and training our people....
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
Put it on the table...... show us what you need... what is you grea so called plan with small print?
As far as disclosing income, go to YTB.com/kchaffin. Click on the top of the page. Our income is disclosed and has to be because we are publicly traded and it is FTC law. This is common knowledge.
I am not out for anyones money. This is just another recruiting tactict by Heartprints. I will help anyone who joins our team become a success. I always tell everyone to do their homework and join whomever they feel comfortable with. Even if it means joining a different company or different team. If you don't want to join YTB that is OK. But if you do, work hard and follow my teams program YTB will pay you beyond your wildest dreams. I started out at the bottom and paid my $450 just like everyone else. The difference: I worked hard and had alot of support from my entire team. Folks, it is not the amount of money you pay to join that convince's your prospects to join your company. Everyone knows it is a hard sell because Network Marketing has a bad name from people who join do not work the business properly or are not supported by their team. It is these people who bad mouth our "Industry". It is just like any business including the W2's, you always have an anchor draggin it down.
WOW Heartprints! You personally recruited 2000 into your team in 2 days. That is unheard of. Talk about a recruiting machine. This recruiting tactict must be working for you. Well you just keep on keeping on. I am glad to hear you are doing so well. I guess I am outclassed by someone who just put 2,000 into their team in the past 2 days and I only sponsored a measly 67. WOW. impressive. I guess we should all join Heartprints... NOT!
As always, do your homework. Ask the right questions. Does Traverus actually have an IATA number? The fact is no they don't. Another fact, it does not matter. We all have a booking number. The industry does not know how to treat RTA's with an online travel website. So they do not recognize any of us as "Travel Agents". We just refer people to our websites hence, "Referring Travel Agents". To become a "Travel Agent" it takes much more time, training and education than the class Traverus requires you to take.
Again, Join the company and team you feel most comfortable with. Because if you are not a network marketing professional (as I am not, never did this before in my life) you will have a learning curve and your team should train, supply the tools and support you.
Heartprints, best of luck to you I really wish you well.
To your Health and Weath.
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
Another - YTB is company of the month www.nmbj.com/articles/...
Leighton
www.AllenbyTravel.com
YTB has many question marks....it is important to read and research the findings of Andrew Left before deciding to join YTB...chief among these is the main source of revenue....i.e. recruiting fees. In Canada it is receiving income for recruiting as opposed to product or service driven income that defines an MLM as illegal.
One among many other concerns is the emphasis on the "Success From Home Magazine"..with an issue at least in each of the last 2 years dedicated to YTB. This publication has all the earmarks of "bought advertising" yet Reps pass it on as evidence of an independent 3rd party analysis pointing to legitimacy. YTB has so far been prevented from entering Canada because IATAN (Canada) will not endorse YTB or give it or it's REPs IATAN status. This is particularly frustrating because again Reps (and maybe YTB) mislead potential Reps by saying they can get the Fam Trips and other perks of legitimate Travel Agents. YTB identifies their Reps , not as Travel Agents, but Referring Travel Agents. Just as in Primerica where Referring agents cannot act as financial planners, nor can YTB Referring Travel Agents act as legitimate travel agents. It appears that YTB has qualified Travel Agents in other parts of the organization who fulfill this role...but it is YTB's responsibility to come clean about what Referring Agents can and cannot do and what they can and cannot get in terms of travel industry perks. YTB is ultimately responsible if misleading statements are made at meetings promoting YTB as a business. Again, in closing, there remain too many question marks about YTB. Posting rep income data does nothing to prove the legitimacy....lots of really bad MLM models have made a number of reps at the top of the pile wealthy...this does not mean they are honest endeavors...often they are skillfully skirting the law. The money statements cause greed-driven people to get involved.
Heartprints143@yahoo.c... contact me for more information, never any obligation or hype.
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Heartprints 143@yahoo.com for more info without any obligatioin, hype or convincing. Only you know what is best for you and your family..Also beware of high cost to join any company. 85% of that money only goes to 3% of the people at the top to make them wealthy while the others struggle. You have to make sure your company policies are easy to duplicate.
I am not here to recruit anyone. I am here strictly to inform the public and state the TRUTH nothing but the TRITH. I have a great team and making great money. Many are on my team that left YTB and they did it on their own. I do not need any one here on my team nor have I recruited any one from here nor do I need or want anyone from here. That has to be a decision you make on your own which company suits you BEST. I have never convinced anyone to join me in my business. I tell them they have to do what is best for them and their family.
IT IS ILLEGAL TO STATE INCOME, THAT IS RIGHT, ILLEGAL SO THOSE OF YOU DONG IT BETTER BEWARE PLEASE.
No one needs to be burned in any company and that is my mission to keep people from being burned or given false information or hype. Any company that guarantees income of any kind is doing themselves and the company they represent a dis service. If you'd like to speak with former YTB people in my group just contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Wishing you all the BEST and hope you and your familes prosper beyond your wildest dreams.
No matter what company you are in I wish you every happiness. I'm only here for the TRUTH and I think everyone deserves to know the truth. Which ever company you are with as long as it makes you happy and you are not deceiving anyone that is great. I do not wish you anything but the very BEST. We at TraVerus do not hide the truth nor will we ever do such a thing. I've said it before many times, I'll say it again...you were not banned by RCCL and IATA just for the fun ot it, they had a very good legitimate reason. You don't think it is important but I do and it is important. Companies do not go around banning others for the fun of it especially well known cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean. By the way you hit those commissions only by the HIGH FEES you charge to make the ones at the top WEALTHY. Try admitting it for a change. You have a huge attrition rate 78%. For the amount of people in your company many more should be making much more money but unless you are a recruiting machine does anyone make huge commissions..only those few at the top. Good Luck.
Is YTB Really Working For You?
Are you struggling to recruit people
with the $500 entry fee?
Are you struggling to recruit 6 people
just to start making any monthly income?
Are you struggling with losing recruits
because they can't easily get to break-even?
Are you struggling with losing credibility
because YTB no longer has a valid IATA number and has been also banned from Royal Caribbean Cruise LInes?
Check this out www.ytbexposed.com
www.mlmwatchdog.com
Start Making Money Immediately
A YTB Agent in New Jersey
Enrolled 80 People in YTB in 18 Months
By July 2007 he had only 39 people left
And made only $78 in monthly commissions
He Moved His YTB Team to Traverus
In August 2007 he had 109 people
And made $1075 in monthly commissions
In September 2007 he had 177 people
And made $1510 in monthly commissions
Enroll Only 3 People for 3 Levels
YTB Monthly Income ..... $0
Traverus Monthly Income ..... $464
Traverus Signup Only $129.95
plus $49.95 monthly after the first month
Professional Travel Benefits
Professional Marketing System
(no meetings required)
Income Comparisons
Signup Bonuses Monthly Bonuses
Organization* YTB Traverus YTB Traverus
3 x 3 $375 $850 $0 $464
3 x 4 $375 $1,650 $0 $1,029
3 x 5 $375 $3,250 $0 $2,321
*DSA - the average agent will only recruit 2-3 people.
(DSA--Direct Selling Association)
The discounts, FAM Trips, heartprints mention in their post are available to all YTB RTA's as well. These are only 1 of many options available to you. If Heartprints tries to say otherwise it is just another one of their lies and recruiting tactics. Myself and many other of my fellow RTA's have taken a few of these trips. I will be going to PERU on 10 days with Air, 5 star Hotels all meals and english speaking guided tours for just $499.00. This is just one of the many FAM Trips available. Plus, when you book travel on a YTB website you pay the best price.
I am not here to sell anything, I want to show people who to save $1,000's every year on their travel budget. And with a company growing and soon to be the largest in the travel industry.
Cali Dreaming, Good luck to you and your new blogging endeavors as I hope you find what you are looking for. If you have any questions feel free to contact me at anytime.
To you Health and Wealth,
Kirk
KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...
What is your IATA number? You don't have one.... Quit sidestepping the issue. Be honest. The fact is the industry does not know how to classify "Online Travel Agents", including Traverus.
YTB has all the same classes. We take the same online tests. We have the Cruise industry training our RTA's. You just continue to try and bash YTB to mislead people into thinking Traverus is a better option. This is your recruiting tactict.
If you had any integrity you would sell your company on their merits alone. You are not here for the truth, you are here to bash and ride coattails.
Again, good luck to you.