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YTB International (YTBL.PK) (YourTravelBiz.com) has a Market Cap north of $450 million with no current financials. Any stock that rises straight up 900% in two months is always an object of interest.

Add to that a publicly traded company based on a multi-level marketing scheme [MLM]. These are always intriguing because of the potential for Ponzi-scheme type abuses.

Add to that a publicly traded company that hasn't reported its financials in over a year: one that trades on the pink sheets because of lack of adequate financial reporting.

.....One that has recently declared its historical financials for at least 3 prior years invalid and in need of restatement.

......One that, the last time it reported its numbers, had three times the revenues from selling business opportunities than it had from selling its core product.

.....One that guarantees a minimum commission for recruiting even more participants.

.....One whose operators include a minister whose primary accomplishment is building a large church congregation.

... .and finally, one whose compensation program is tied to the promise to issue large blocks of stock at a set price less than 6% of today's market price ($1 a share).

Seems impossible, but its all true.

Multi-level marketing is not illegal. A few multi-level marketing companies have been very successful. But far more collapse because of the potential abuses in the business structure that create the conditions of a Ponzi scheme.

Among the huge red flags swirling around this issue:

What are the real numbers? Is this company even profitable net of its multi-level compensation promises?

What are the legal implications and financial effects of promises of large blocks of below-market stock into an MLM organization st $1 a share?

Would regulators be concerned if MLM participants are being encouraged in any official or unofficial way to form an affinity group to buy the stock ?

And of course --- what has changed for this company in the last two months ?

Cautious Investing To All.

Disclosure: Author is short YTBL.PK.

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    I have a YTB travel website and the stock price is always in the upper right hand corner. I thought a lot of people were just buying in but who was doing the dumping? I watch the stock and trade it. If you are short the stock, you must have made about 3 good swipes at this in the last 2 weeks! After reading your article, I called others more involved in YTB than I and found out you were exactly right about large blocks of stock being issued. The word is that people are offered cash or stock and those bonuses are huge-like 1M shares. This info is not from YTB but that is what I heard today after mentioning your article to someone. Keep digging. I appreciate it.
    2007 Feb 22 10:36 PM | Link |
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    Rebecca, how long have you been in YTB and what is your web address? Mine is booklowertravel.com and I have been in YTB now for almost two months and doing very well with it. This is my primary source of income, so I am going to succeed. There is no question about that. I hate working for someone else. I am enjoying working from home with YTB and helping others to succeed. Have you invested in YTB stock or are you just recruiting and selling travel.
    2007 May 13 03:08 PM | Link |
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    Rebecca,

    I'd love to get in touch with you about YTB and what's going on with them.

    Susan
    Melrose,Ma.
    2007 May 11 04:15 PM | Link |
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    I have my own ytb web page donerightdestinations...., I be glad to answer any questions. I can bee reached at johnafonso1@yahoo.com.
    2007 Aug 01 08:27 PM | Link |
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    I also have a YTB travel website at booklowertravel.com and I find that the reason for doing the business is primarily to help others. I am interested in the stock prices, but I am more for recruiting others and pointing people to my website. YTB has been around long enough to know that stocks will go up and down and people who are on the outside looking in will also find the negative in what a company does or does not do. I am doing absolutely well with YTB and it is only going to get better.
    2007 May 13 03:06 PM | Link |
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    Help others taking $499.99 from their hard earned money as a fee to join? That is hardly helping others .
    You make promises and then with your quotas many sturggle and quit because the promise they got has not been fulfilled. Ask the ones struggling if they are making the money they expected to make when they joined? When a company charges that high fee 85% of the money goes only to 3% of the people.
    I spoke to one person from YTB and they told me that they do not bother with people who do not have $499.99. That denies people who need to earn extra income the opportunity to put food on their table, save them from perhaps foreclosure on thier house and have to declare bankruptsy. I could go on and on.
    What in your estimation constitutes a good company. I think it is where the CEO and President does everyhting to put money in your pocket not take it out of your pocket. Explain this, why are so many leaving your company if it is so good? They are leaving in droves.
    Why not get involved in an honest company that you make money with people instead of "OFF" of them. You want to see a good company I'll show you a great company and I'll guaranty you won't find a thing wrong with it in fact it put all the others to shame.

    BUYER BEWARE..KEEP YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY IN YOUR POCKET AND JOIN SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HYPE YOU AND DECEIVE YOU. You've seen the rest, now experience the best and not because I'm involved in it. Rated number one from Wall Street in NY

    In order to make a quality decision on a good company you need all the facts with no hype just honesty from the beginning with a CEO and President that does not deceive anyone. THat is what I call helping people. Get in touch with me if interested. I'm dong very well and most of the people in my business came for your GREAT comapany. When you see the difference you too will be sold that it is a great comapny. 508 210 3117 Please ask for Sheila I can sleep very well nights knowing I have truly helped others. May G-d Bless each and everyone of us and align yourself with a company with integrity. That is the most important.
    2007 Jul 04 09:27 PM | Link |
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    Shelia

    Please send me information on your biz op. My daughter joined YTB without checking out much and is wanting me to join be cause I travel extensively and know a ot of peopel in busieness who book their own travel.

    I am interested in the concept but want to make sure I am with the right organization.

    Dan

    eamil address dangiacoletto@aol.com
    2007 Jul 23 12:45 PM | Link |
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    dangiacoletto: If your daughter is part of YTB, I think it's a good idea to help her. You don't have to be part of the company, but you and friends can book your traveling from her website. It will be done from another site anyway or travel agency and others will get the commisions also, so why give the business to someone else when you can help your daughter? I haven't heard any complain about booking on any YTB website. May GOD bless you.
    2007 Oct 11 02:39 AM | Link |
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    Hi, I am thinking about YTB and therefore doing some research. Please tell me about the company you are speaking of that you say is really great. kimsprowl@hotmail.com
    2007 Aug 13 06:17 PM | Link |
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    Good evening Sheila,

    I have been contacted by a representative from YTB wanting me to join. I am glad I found your article before I jumped in. I have been scammed before and cannot afford to be again. What is the opportunity you mentioned in your article?

    Thanks.

    Mr. John Camp
    2007 Aug 22 06:08 PM | Link |
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    Sheila,

    My email is laymanjohn@aol.com

    Thanks again.
    2007 Aug 22 06:11 PM | Link |
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    YTB is no scam, this article is one persons opinoin and is not 100% correct, but hey your decisions are up to you! For those of us that jump in scam is that last thing we would call it. Read further check it out more, you won't regret it!
    2007 Oct 17 01:52 PM | Link |
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    I am also deciding about ytb. please tell me about your company.
    zirka87@juno.com
    2007 Aug 29 01:17 PM | Link |
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    User 104367, would you please email me at suema2006@gmail.com or call me at 781-665-0710 ET. I've already emailed you and I haven't had a response yet. I emailed you on Aug. 31st. I'm a Regional Executive with Traverus Travel.

    Susan
    2007 Sep 01 07:43 PM | Link |
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    User 104367, If you are the person who called me this afternoon, I'd appreciate it if you would call me back or you can respond to the email that I sent you before. If you aren't, give me a call or respond to the email that I sent you. suema2006@gmail.com or 781-665-0710 ET Thanks, Susan
    2007 Sep 02 07:11 PM | Link |
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    Check it out here.

    theytb.com
    2007 Sep 08 01:00 PM | Link |
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    Hi Sheila. I too have been approached to join YTB. My understanding for a brief period of time they are waiving the $499. start up fee. You only pay the 49.95 web site fee. What do you think of this and what is your company!

    Thanks so much, Kathy @ krazykat@impulse.net
    2007 Sep 03 08:16 PM | Link |
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    you know, it always comes back to freedom of choice. whether you like it or not associates of ytb are still running their own legitimate, LEGAL business...and so if they choose not to associate with those who cannot afford the $500, then that is their choice.

    you must also look at those who are quick to jump without doing their research or ensuring that this is the right thing for them. we aren't all meant to be salesmen or travel women. if you are not outgoing, creative, and have an entrepreneur way of thinking than ytb, as well as many other endeavors, are not for you.

    i wish you all the best in your values and your way of life, but we have to stop "babying" each other and make each other stand up and make well thought out decisions.

    and NO, i am not in YTB...but i might just go ahead and do it!
    2007 Oct 03 01:27 AM | Link |
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    You have no idea what you are saying here, there is an option to get into YTB for free. If people are leaving in herds as you claim, then why are our numbers growing so fast. I never have to put down another company to make YTB look better, if it isn't for you, then go find what is! The travel booked on our sites are the same vendors that are on Expedia, Travelocity, or any of the other big names. Our booking engine is extremely high tech, you don't get that for free. By the way we have no time limits at all and no quotas! Our stock is purchased the same way any other stock is purchased, the only difference is with YTB you have the option to take stock or cash for your bonus! Look around you will find negative people in every business out there! By the way does your owner meet with anyone in the company every Tuesday and put on enormous presentations for free every singe week? Save the bashing for when you have the details, you just turned every YTB person on this site off to your business idea, we don't deal in negatives! God Bless!
    2007 Oct 17 02:08 PM | Link |
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    Hey Sheila,

    Whatz up? I just had to comment on this...You are sleeping on YTB. From the top to the bottom this company has a big heart! Do you know who Juliet St. John is? Read about her (Google it if you don't ).

    This woman is a primary example of how big hearted this company's founder is and its successors. Yes I have a YTB site-however it took me since November of 2004 until September of 2007 to join!

    I wasn't convinced enought at first, but definately the opportunity did intrique my interest-just as it does yours. Just know that everyone that joins this company did not pay that $499.00 often times it was waived, but the bonus structure remained the same. Did you know that this company will pay you $1300.00 after you have personally sponsored 12 RTA's? And thereafter every 6 RTA's will=another $1300.00 payable to you!

    Do the MATH

    See this world is about MATH & SCIENCE that's it...
    If it don't make $$$$ it won't make sense (cents) RIGHT?

    Avon, Marykay, Ameriscience, Ameriplan, Amway, Prepaid Legal, and the otherones that may work for some people do not have this type of compensation plan. The stock speaks for itself. Ask yourself, if your stock was rising like this would you open this door of opportunity to everyone for FREE-Hell NO

    The Tomer Family has helped so many people in the business with just the moral support alone. All types of people-Rich & Poor.

    I am a Christian and YTB is my testimony, I have never felt so accepted by another family-(Home, Church, Associations) in my life. Come to the RED Carpet and see the room filled with smiling faces and experience the joy of this company first hand for yourself and I promise you that the presence of the Lord is in that room.

    Tuesdays-Collinsville IL
    2007 Nov 12 11:41 PM | Link |
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    Sheila

    Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.

    I look forward to hearing from you!
    2007 Nov 15 10:18 PM | Link |
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    Sheila

    Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.

    I look forward to hearing from you!
    2007 Nov 15 10:19 PM | Link |
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    Sheila

    Please send me information on the biz op you mention. I am looking to get into the travel business and would appreciate any insight you can offer. You can contact me at g_erb@hotmail.com.

    I look forward to hearing from you!
    2007 Nov 15 10:19 PM | Link |
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    Folks,

    Our leader has posted $25,000 for anyone to find a better company with a better compensation plan let me know. He left a $20,000 a month program to join ours, that speaks volumes.

    What does that tell you? It is not necessary to spend $499.99 to join any program. THERE IS NO PROGRAM WORTH THAT MONEY. IT IS NOT BETTER BECAUSE IT COSTS MORE. I feel that is discrimination. The average person needs to have a program to bless their family financially as well as any of us. I'm so blessed that I found the best program with the best compensation. I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I'M IN IT, TRUST ME. WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPANY I'M IN YOU WILL REALIZE WHAT I FOUND.

    I INVITE YOU TO ONE OF OUR CONFERENCE CALL TUESDAY MAY 15, 07 9:45 PM ET 6 45 PM PT
    507 726 3200 PIN 44023# HEAR OUR PRESIDENT AND CEO LIVE.

    YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR CALL ME AT 508 210 3117 I look forward to hearing from you. We have many from YTB who left to join a company because of our honesty, no deception.
    2007 May 14 10:06 PM | Link |
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    heartprints, enough ambiguity. so far only YTB is letting eveyone know what it is and how it can be successful. YTB, i am not a member yet, explained how just using their product could be helpful in saving people time and money. This easily pays off any entry payments. You have, just like most have only written about this huge compensation program, and not what area of life we will be working in. Most people would love to work in the travel business. Even as an employee of a company to pay me to travel I might fork over $350.
    2007 Sep 16 04:46 PM | Link |
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    Andrew,
    YTB (Your Travel Biz) Is on solid footing financially, legally, and the leadership team is second to none -- do your homework! J. Lloyd Tomer is responsible for building an insurance and financial services empire making him well in excess of $1 million dollars per year' yet you say his primary accomplishment is building a large church congregation! Sounds like your trying to create a reality with your articles that will justify your short position in this stock.

    Hello All,
    I would like to say that I have personally met with several of the leaders of this company (YTB) and have expressed similar concerns about the stock. I think some of you will be surprised by what will come from this company's stock performance. I personally made the decision to get involved with this program based on the answers that I got about the stock's future. I am working with a top leader in this company to position myself and my team members, to exercise the stock option bonus program. If any of you would like to get the inside track on this company and learn how to position yourself for generational wealth with YTB, in this multi-trillion dollar industry I would be willing to converse with you personally or via e-mail -- my full contact information is on my website found at www.travelcashplan.com

    To Your Success,
    Joshua Immel
    2007 May 21 11:38 PM | Link |
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    Yes, I agree do you due diligence. I invite you to one of our calls, say Tues. May 22nd at 7:30pm ET 402-756-9100 Pin: 190769# or 9:45pm ET 507-726-3200 Pin: 44023#

    Here's some info on our Preident & CEO:
    David Manning President/CEO/founder of TraVerus Travel

    16 years, Direct /Network Marketing
    Highly accomplished field distributor
    Nat'l Sales Trainer
    Industry Consultant
    Compensation plan designer Specialist
    17 years Easter Seals Telethon TV host
    12 years Int'l Sports promoter
    setting 2 world attendance records
    Acclaimed motivational public speaker

    Listen to him on the 9:45 call.

    Here's my site where you can check it out: www.travelworldwidemov...
    2007 May 22 12:09 AM | Link |
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    I just invested in YTB business. I have a GREAT FEELING ABOUT THIS COMPANY that is why I'm buying as many shares of Stock as I possibly can. It hedged up .05 in the last two days. Had I bought last week, i would have already gained. So before too late, I'm vesting. I think lots of people will be sad about not investing in this like MSFT and my personal favorite loss PIXR. I bought a ONE share of PIXR while it was $26.00 and it split and DIsney took it over. And I was sad. I'm trying not to have those losses anymore. YTB is my money maker.
    2007 Jun 11 04:44 PM | Link |
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    my website is WildBeanTravel.com
    Call me
    Makedah Sari
    866-915-3603 if you are interested in the opportunity
    or log into WIldBeanTravel, click on Financial INdependence and JOIN NOW!!
    2007 Jun 11 04:45 PM | Link |
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    I think YTB is a great company and will continue to grow at a great pace.

    Rick
    www.ytsource.com
    2007 Jun 27 01:41 PM | Link |
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    Rick,

    What I'm hearing is that no sooner do some people sign up many others are dropping out for one reason or another. One of the reasons is it's just too much and because it's all hype. Check us out at: www.fantasyvacations.i...
    Then get back to me.

    Susan
    781-665-0710 ET
    2007 Jun 27 03:45 PM | Link |
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    Susan-

    I don't really understand what you just wrote? YTB is a great company and we are talking to several people that are doing well in the business. There are tons of MLM travel companies but I don't think any compare to ytb.

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    314-265-9732
    2007 Jun 27 05:25 PM | Link |
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    hi, my name is mike i just want to let every one know that y.t.b is working well for me i am
    receving nice checks on commison on my travel booking$$$$$$$$$$ and i am helping others do the same my website is maturanatravelsolution... call me and we can help you too 813 882 8926
    thanks, mike
    2007 Jul 01 10:25 PM | Link |
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    Mike, you have nothing to compare it to. If you knew what I have you wouldn't think YTB is so great. Please call me and I will show you the difference and I will show you what a Great Co. I have. www.fantasyvacations.i...

    Susan
    781-665-0710
    2007 Jul 01 11:17 PM | Link |
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    Susan,
    Have you ever thought of working for a living instead of talking crap about other companies and the people in them.It looks like you visit this blog often to recruit instead of other sources..I looked at your site real quick not to judge with out knowing what I am talking about and it looks like a four year old designed it!! Get a life and work for your money instead of praying on others that are trying to do well for themselves..You are not trying to help anyone but yourself you make it sound like you are doing a service..all you are trying to do is make an override..Tim
    2007 Sep 12 01:27 PM | Link |
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    Dear Folks,

    There is no comparison because you are not comparing apples to apples. When you check out YTB with the program that I have been in for now 4 months there is no absolutely no comparison because we have the Best there is in the industry barring none. Please be advise it is not the BEST because I'm in it. I had many nd I did my due diligence, pulled ours apart with a fine tooth comb before I would joinany company and my program was given a clean bill of health...sorry to say I can't say that about YTB. I had a few experts on compensation plans and again we came out on TOP. No one so far has claimed the $25,000 challenge, if anyone can find a better company with a better pay plan. What does that say about my program? To me it tells me one thing and one thing only that we have the cream of the crop. Needless to say we have many people jumping ship over to us. Our company is where the average person who never made any money in another program is earning a wonderful steady income. I'm so thankful for finding the right program at the right time. Someone is watching over me from above.

    Thank you for your time and if you are interested in the best program on the planet here is how to reach me. Please folks save your money because your entrance fee is absurd.

    Need more information dial 508 210 3117 or email me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... The TRUTH shall set you FREE!!!! BTW we do not hype anyone we just state the TRUE facts, our company does not need to be hyped it is much too good to do that. We don't have to convince or twist their arms to join. Once they see our comp. plan they are sold and they join immediately. You think I'm kidding? Find out for yourself. We just brought a football player from the Pittsburgh Steelers. We have John O' Hurley, host of Family Feud and played J. Peterman on Seinfeld, Elaine's boss, also John Daley, journalist. We will have our own cruise ship, 5 star resort and our own Island.
    2007 Jul 02 12:11 AM | Link |
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    I was made aware of this page from a prospect who I am trying to get involved with my business. And frankly I want to say thanks to all of you regardless of what company you represent. The constant bickering and grandstanding on who’s company is better just makes you all look so foolish. I applaud your passion but you still look foolish. Most of you are dabblers at finance, business as well as life and the fact that so much time is spent blogging tells me that you re not real business people, and will most certainly fail at this as well. Success comes to the driven, regardless of what price you paid for the privilege to participate. My advice to all of you is to cut the crap, get off your ass and spend time building your business as well as those of the people you asked to get involved. I would bet my life that not one of you have ever received a 5 figure monthly check on a consistent basis, and your personal agency is not wildly known by anyone, and I know this because you are busy defending or trying to pitch your firm on this sight. I spent fifteen years as a VP for one of wall streets largest investment firms and I can tell who really knows anything about finance, stocks, associated persons, restricted securities, etc. All the information is there for you to see, stop assuming what the figures mean, and ask someone that knows. Thanks for the opportunity to vent, you won’t see me hear again though. I am just too busy building and staying away from jokers like you. By the way who gives a dawn which celebrity is the company's spokeperson (all are paid for any endorsement) or what cruise ship or Island they own. My word of caution is stop watching what others have and start building your business. I hope I see you on the other side, but I doubt it!
    2007 Jul 14 02:33 PM | Link |
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    once again, no info no website. nothing we can investigate. We're in if the company can be up front of the public eye. What is it!!!
    2007 Sep 16 04:56 PM | Link |
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    YTB – YOUR TRAVEL BUSINESS NEXT?

    2 July 2007 – Florida after YTB reps! The next BurnLounge in FTC eyes? The FTC has been letting states take the lead. Then they often follow up nationally with the evidence from the State hit (Burn Lounge). The greater Los Angeles Better Business Bureau listed YTB as a Pyramid Scheme for over 6 months now. In the old days (before terrorist attacks) the FTC would often follow up the LA BBB listing in about six months with court action. Today the Department of Justice who often provides lawyers for the FTC is tied up with terrorism related cases. The WatchDog thinks that the clock is ticking on YTB.

    www.mlmwatchdog.com/py...
    2007 Jul 04 05:24 PM | Link |
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    Its funny to me that Heather and Susan really don’t have a clue of what is going on with YTB. You need to research your facts a little. If your compensation plan is so great then post it. Personally YTB is one of the best companies in the industry. In fact Travel Weekly ranked YTB 35th travel agency in the nation two weeks ago. Where is yours ranked? The company has grown 300% in the last year. I hear you two wine about the $499.00 start up. That’s not really a bad investment on a new business not to include that you will save that alone on the travel industry tax breaks or the profits that you will receive for you compensations or the travel savings on your next vacation. In reality it should be much more. More like $2000.00 startup. It would make more people work the business. And yes I believe you need to have a dog in the race. A 100% of the setup fee is paid to the upline to provide training. No other company dose that. The only reason as you say 3% of company only makes the commissions is because only 3% actually work. And in reality it’s 4 times that. And sweetie the turn over rate with YTB is 40% less then the network marketing industry. Get a clue! YTB is a new wave in the Network Marketing Industry. YTB going to change the way that people feel about Network Marketing. Heather when you company goes away hit me up and I will find a place for you at YTB.
    2007 Jul 06 10:15 PM | Link |
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    We do not have to post our comp. plan, it is too good and we have had it evaluated by Wall Street and it is the cream of the crop..you want to find out about ours simply get in touch with me.
    Let it be known here and now you can't touch us with what you have sorry to say but true. When you see what we offer you will agree with us as many of your former YTB people have said we are the best an dnow they are with us. We have no worries..we are not plastered either all over the Internet like you are.. Any way we want people with integrity and the truth not people who rob from the poor and give to the rich like you do. Good luck to you in all your present and future endeavorsl. The cream always rises to the top..We shall see how wonderful you truly are when you are no longer a company and that is happening as I type.

    I'm just trying to protect all of you from future harm and to learn the comparisons. You make money OFF people we make money WITH them big huge difference. It amazes me how you all fall for all the hype in your company. We don't need to hype anything.
    Good luck

    508 210 3117 if you care to check us out. No hard feelings just want you to know the truth and then it will set you all free. Make more money than you ever dreamed possible and residual built in from the moment you join. You don't have it.
    2007 Jul 06 11:57 PM | Link |
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    Your comp plan is too good to post and it was evaluated by Wall Street? What the hell does that even mean?
    2007 Sep 03 12:54 AM | Link |
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    Don't get me wrong as YTB is a Great Company but IT has been IMPROVED on with OURS!

    Traverus Travel is the travel company that is going to take over the travel industry. Unlike most of the other travel companies that charge $500-$2000+ to join and have stringent qualifications. Traverus is an affordable $119.95 to join and one personal sale gets you a position in the 3x9 matrix. I was the 2399th person in company a few weeks ago and there are now over 4800. Two sales in 7 days gets you upgraded to a certified travel agent position normally $399. Traverus is not a card mill you must take a 5 hour course either online or on a cruise to get your travel agent card. Traverus is not a start up they are a 4 year old established travel company that started the direct sales force on November 1, 2006. They have a great reputation and have JOhn O Hurley from Seinfeld as their celebrity spokesperson. The comp plan is the best I have ever seen and pays back 90% of the commissions to the agents. You also make up to 70% commission on booking travel at your website as a CTA. Great leadership calls everyday to bring people to explain the program.

    my site is www.fantasyvacations.i... the recorded call is 1-641-985-5999 ext 21694. My phone is 781-665-0710 email is suema2006@gmail.com

    Susan

    I just received my ID Card this week and am looking forward to working with the cruise lines and other travel entities directly.
    2007 Jul 13 11:28 PM | Link |
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    I want to thank you xgllive for speaking on behalf of YTB, people need to stop speaking so negative about a company that has been in business since 2001 and is getting stronger by the second, "not bad for a so call Scheme company ahh" Well money is not for everybody only those of us willing to work hard for our own company. You work at an office more than 8 hour a day only to be more broke by the second and not being able to take a vacation and deduct your expenses while you travel. Wow, I am really in the right company YTB. Where would you be able to by a business for just $500.00 and make back in less than a month. "wow" I will see you at the top if you are willing to climb to success"
    2007 Sep 12 03:30 PM | Link |
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    I will second you xgllive. People here are boasting other travel businesses and finding info about ytb that most likely isn't true. Everyone keeps trying to compare Burn Lounge and ytb. Burn Lounge is a music download company and ytb is a travel mlm. I think YTB is great and we are doing very well. If you have any questions please call 314-265-9732.

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    www.cliftontravelgroup...
    2007 Jul 06 10:37 PM | Link |
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    Most likely not true you say..you do not know what you are talking about at all. You just hype everyone. You can't touch our prices on trips and savings..you try to portray you have the best but you don't. I'm not comparing burn lounge at all. I'm comparing your so called great company with one that is the Best and you can't do it..and you never will. So Sad. You are just afraid ours is better than yours at more than half the price of yours. How dare you charge $499.99 to make the top people rich. You ought to be ashamed dong such a nasty thing like that. NO COMPAY IS WORTH $499.99. THERE ISN'T A COMPANY ON THE NET WORTH THAT PRICE. ANSWER THIS WHY ARE SO MANY YTB PEOPLE LEAVING YTB??? PLEASE DON'T SAY THEY AREN'T BECAUSE I KNOW TONS WHO HAVE LEFT BECAUSE OF. e ALL THE HYPE AND THEY ARE NOT MAKING THE MONEY PROMIESED THEM . EXPLAIN THAT IF YOU WILL PLEASE.
    2007 Jul 07 12:09 AM | Link |
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    I left Traverus to join YTB, so yes people are leaving other companies and coming to YTB,

    it does not matter what these negative people are saying, because people are going to leave and join companies for different reasons mainly I left because Traverus did not pay for anything, I found the free medical and life insurance plus the million dollar bonus and bonus all the way up very attractive.

    Traverus is too busy paying Rich Actors then paying their distributors, but that was just my exerpience someone else may love it, this is why we all have our own choices to make.

    Read more about YTB before following someone on here then make the choice right for you.
    2007 Aug 02 06:29 PM | Link |
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    Hi mytravel792,

    I've been in Traverus since mid March and I have never had to pay more than the joining fee and because I've been bringing others in all of the time have never had to pay the monthly fee. I've been paid on time and each week my checks have been larger. So could it be that you haven't had anyone signup under you to make any money. They pay the actors because they are also distributors just like I am. You couldn't possibly have all of the information on Traverus or have been on many if any of the conference calls, as that's so important to any business. Traverus provides all the training that you need to succeed and it's up to you what you do with it. I wish you all the success with YTB! If by some chance you should change your mind again and want to rejoin Traverus, I'm here for you. Susan suema2006@gmail.com
    2007 Aug 02 07:02 PM | Link |
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    What you do not understand is this....our spokesperson does not get paid to be a spokesperson for TraVerus. Our spokesperson looked for 16 years to find the RIGHT company and because of the honesty and integrity of our company he aligned himself with our company. He gets paid like any other associate that joins our company. I want to know how sponsored you into the company you mention, how long were you associated and what did you do or not do?

    Also any company that has a large fee to join 85% of that money goes to only 3% of the people and the ones not at top struggle.

    What does one have to do to earn the million dollar bonus. H ow many hours does it take, if not years and how may associates struggle in your organization. How long are you in your company and how many are earning significant income to earn back the their investment in your company? What do they have to do to earn back their initial investment, how many associates does that take?

    Who was your sponsor in TraVerus and how long were you an associate?

    I wish you well with all present and future endeavors. I have some inside information you don't want to hear and I will not post it here.
    The person who started this original post here has some information about YTB and that is why the RED FLAG was raised, wouldn't you agree? Why else would whomever post this here. I believe it is to protect and WARN people here that things are not as they seem.

    Keep in mind we have over 500 in our business you are talking about one person.hmmm Sorry, I'm not impressed. You have to come up with a better explanation. Sorry I do not buy your theory..

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117
    2007 Aug 02 07:56 PM | Link |
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    You have over 500 in your business? If you were in YTB, you would have paid you $155,000 minimum commission, you would be a 1st level Director with full Blue Cross/Blue Shield medical insurance free (guaranteed issue, no medical questions or exams), $150,000 life insurance, $2000/mo min. profit sharing and $1000 additional residuals guaranteed for life + 2 generations. The YTB compensation plan can be viewed here: www.ytb.com/downloads/...
    Why are you afraid to post the Traverus comp plan?
    2007 Sep 02 11:45 PM | Link |
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    Thank you totaltravel for posting this information about YTB benefits, this people are talking about their company is better and I wonder why YTB is ranking #1 and Travelocity joined them. If people left YTB is because they may have been to lazy to work at their business, because this is what we have our business. It hurts people to know that YTB is the largest travel company and is growing by the second. $500. is pocket change when you compare all the benefits you get and all the discounts in this industry.
    2007 Sep 12 03:46 PM | Link |
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    Thank you for your comment regarding why people leave and join companies. You are correct, people leave and join companies for different reasons. Please contact me to advise how you are doing with YTB. My husband and I are doing our research to determine if we should join YTB or not. Thank you for your honesty! Our email address is louisloveann@aol.com.
    2007 Sep 20 12:02 AM | Link |
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    Way to go girl. When I read what they had to say I knew that you would have much to say in response. I whole heartedly concur with you. When they realize how they are hurting other people and not helping them they will change their tune if they are actually caring people themselves and not just out to make money off of others. Check out this: hotshorturl.com/iq02 if you want more info

    www.traverus.net www.traverus.biz
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    I refuse to leave anyone behind. Listen to an oppty call & hear the TRUTH!!! instantTeleseminar.com...
    I made my choice to be financially independent-YOU CAN DO THE SAME
    2007 Jul 07 10:25 AM | Link |
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    Heartprints, your telling me you can't find 1 company on the internet that is worth paying $499.99 for? I don't know 1 person leaving YTB and we know plenty of people in the biz. There is a lot of hype with any company you start up with, you have to put towards effort and make it work. Why are you so angry? lol.
    2007 Jul 07 07:57 PM | Link |
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    cliffonwebgroup,

    Angy, what makes you think I'm angry??? The fact that you don't know anyone who left YTB doesn't mean many have not left. I'm not making any of the up. I can tell you many and that is more than should if your company is as good as you try to hype. NOT NECESSARY EVER TO HYPE ANY COMPNAY..THEIR PEOPLE SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES..their compensation speaks for itself.
    With knowledge, integrity, truth and a company that cares about its members and has a company where the average person can now make some decent money not struggle in order to my YTB quotas. There is never any reason to hype...also we do not discriminate and make it affordable for everyone. Many do not have the money to join your company to make money. Yes you have your free position and how does one make any money that way??
    I'm not angry just trying to PROTECT people from being taken, nothing more.
    I help people become successful and they appreciate everything I do and the company does.
    I've said it before, a person unable to afford your entrance fee still needs/wants to increase their income and put food on their table too. We do not rob from the poor and give to the rich. People who are looking for an opportunity don't have your entrance fee, plain and simple.

    Good Luck Cliff. I'm glad you think it is funny. This is serious business not something to pick fun at.
    2007 Jul 07 09:46 PM | Link |
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    Hey Heartprint 143, I know I said I woundn't be back but I just couldn't resist in commenting before I go. You seem to be the one with the most posts and negative comments regarding YTB, I hope your firm is paying you for all the hot air that you seem to pump out, because I know you are not making any money by any other means, and frankly I am glad you are with the competition. If someone like you represented YTB we would all be asshamed to be associated with them!
    2007 Jul 14 02:49 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints, you make me laugh. What makes you think business has to be serious all the time. We are on a "message board" and your acting like we are in a board room. YTB is a great company and the pay plan is one of a kind. The "entrance fee" you refer to is $499, that is nothing compared to 99% of other mlm businesses. This is a great opportunity and I invite you to join our team. Please feel free to call me at 314-265-9732

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    www.cliftontravelgroup...
    2007 Jul 08 03:28 AM | Link |
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    I think you ought to do some research on pay plans. One of a kind, kind of what? I do not care what other businesses charge, nor do I care that you think YTB is a great company..great compared to what? There is plenty of junk on the Internet and most of those companies are MONEY GAMES. i think a company who allows the average person to make money with an affordable entrance fee is GREAT. If you think $499.99 is nothing why not ask the person who doesn't have that fee or do you even care about those people ..I'm afraid you don't care judging that you hung up on me when we spoke on the phone about the $499.99. That is so childish to hang up on me and tells me volumes about your integrity..children do things like that not mature adults.
    You must be kidding, join your team..never in a Trillion years. I'd never take money from the poor and give it to the rich, not my style at all. Equal opportunities for all.
    When YTB folds give me a call if you still want to be in a travel program. You don't know what a great company is, I do. I'm not saying it because I'm in it or want to bring you into my program..I just know what I have and I know what you have and there is no comparison, none.

    I wish you the best with YTB and all the people who aren't making any money in it and are struggling please spare me, I know many as I posted before who have left your GREAT company. If you call YTB great ours is the BEST on the planet..and I can prove it too. Please stay with YTB because in your eyes it is GREAT and you need to follow your conscience.
    2007 Jul 08 10:42 AM | Link |
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    To Whom It May Concern THAT IS READING THIS POST ..Let it be known here and now the reason companies go public is they need MONEY. Who buys the stocks if not the people in the business?

    WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE A GOOD COMPANY IT MEANS NOTHING UNLESS YOU CAN PROVE IT AND I CAN.

    We do not have to go public and sell stock. WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY. WE DO NOT NEED TO SELL STOCK. We do not need money $$$$$$$$$$$$$ WE HAVE PLENTY OF IT. WE WILL HAVE SOON OUR OWN 2. 4 MILES OF OCEAN FRONT PROPERTY OF OUR OWN. OUR OWN CRUISE SHIP AND OUR OWN 5 STAR RESORT WITH OUR NAME ON IT. DON'T BE MISLED, DON'T LET THE HYPE OF OTHER COMPANIES GET TO YOU. DON'T GET INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY THAT CHARGES $499.99 IT ISN'T BETTER BECAUSE THEY CHARGE MORE. WHY DO I POST HERE, TO PROTECT AS MANY PEOPLE AS I POSSIBLY CAN TO GET INVOLVED WITH AN A NUMBER ONE COMPANY FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST A FEW WHO CAN AFFORD $499.99. SHAME ON YOU FOR ILLIMINATING THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD $499.99. EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE PEOPLE. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO. WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD AND LET THE AVERAGE PERSON TO MAKE SOME GREAT MONEY.

    When you think you have the BEST OR A GOOD company you don't know wHAT a good/best company REALLY IS ..you just don't get it. I WILL PROVE TO ANYONE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST. WHEN PEOPLE JUMP SHIP TO US IT TELLS US VOLUMES. PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID THEY KNOW THE BEST WHEN THEY ARE INTRODUCED TO IT, WE ARE THE BEST IN THE INDUSTRY. GET IN TOUCH WITH ME AND I'LL PROVE IT TO ANYONE THAT WE ARE THE BEST. LET'S COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES FOLKS..WHERE THE AVERAGE PERSON CAN MAKE SOME DECENT MONEY NOT STUGGLE AND TELL THEM THEY CAN MAKE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY AND THOSE PEOPLE NEVER DO IT ONLY A FEW DO AND THEY HAVE TO WORK THEIR TAILS OFF. I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU WILL GET IN TOUCH WITH ME TO PROVE TO YOU WHAT WE HAVE. THERE IS NO COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU HAVE. 508 210 3117 ASK FOR SHEILA
    2007 Jul 08 10:40 PM | Link |
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    Concerning the negativity about YTB
    First of all this rhetoric in about stealing from the poor and giving it to the rich is preposterous. You can't start any viable business for $500 that include a website that books flights, cruises, car rentals, hotels, sporting events, concert tickets, bridal registry, send flowers and now sells new cars! Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about!! I've been a business owner for many years and I've never seen any business like this one. In my first 4 weeks I made over $2000. Most of that was from recruiting people but that was their choice. They saw the opportunity and wanted to be a part of it. The smartest aspect of this business is the recruiting since it will set you up for a huge residual income when everyone starts booking travel. It's like planting seeds for the future and the harvest will be in the months and years to come. If you can't afford $500 for everything that YTB offers, then by all means you should go do something else. YTB is not interested in taking someone's last $500 only to have them sit around and do nothing. YTB offers them the chance to really make a difference in their financial future if they are willing to follow their training methods. One of my close friends just booked travel from LAX to Italy in September, he saved $600 over Travelocity. He was so ecstatic that he signed up and booked it on his own site. I believe they are all good and there is enough business to go around for everyone. Nobody has all the best features with any given company, it's really about what works for you. I don't care who you are attached to, if you sit around on your ass and don't make the phone calls, don't get out and talk to people you aren't gonna' make any money period! As for me I love YTB and so does my team. I trust that the powers that be will do the right things to insure YTB's success in the years to come
    2007 Jul 12 04:37 PM | Link |
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    Actually, I'm with a very viable company and its only $49 dollars to get started in the business. We've been featured in every major publication from Forbes, to money magazine, to black enterprise. We were recently featured on the USA Today as the 3rd best publicly traded company, just following Amazon.com and University of Phoenix. Not only that, but we have every Attorney General backing our company and the founder of our company is serving his 3rd term on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Our Stock is trading over $50 per share on the New York Stock Exchange. I don't know how much more credibility you need than that...so your $499 entry fee is total crap, just to put that out there....and how about this, if you really believe in your company, send the company name with your name attached to it to your states attorney general, and they'll make the decision on whether your company is going to last. I'd like some feed back, email me at JamesFortner94@hotmail...
    2007 Sep 14 04:00 PM | Link |
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    I'm not in any MLM Company, but seriously looking. With all the bashing and negative comments about other people, I would not be in any company or business with you. You say you're out to help others, but yet you crucify and bash (verbally) most everyone you talk to. I am looking for a great Networking company who cares about people and has a great pay plan, but you have brought great disgrace to yours. I have never written on a blog in my life, until now. I have not written this to make you angry. I just hope you will geniunely take to heart what I've shared. There are many good companies and good people in them. We are not all created by our Maker to do the same things. We are all very limited in our knowledge of what others are doing. I certainly don't want to discourage my brother or my sister (or be-little them) because I think I have found the only Golden "Goose" in Network-Marketing that lays an egg. (or any other company)

    The Critical spirit and the bashing is really getting old. I hope you can refrain and maybe just start praying for us that someone like me can find a great company and wonderful people to work with.

    I am sincerely trying to read these different opinions and learn from others and their experiences. I wish the very best for them all. (That includes you) But ....Please !!! Stop all this negative bashing and tearing down someone else's company and them as an individual.

    Sorry to be so long-winded, but I am truly sincere. May God Bless us all, to become encouragers.

    My Name is Louis (Thanks)
    2007 Nov 16 05:43 PM | Link |
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    I'm not in any MLM Company, but seriously looking. With all the bashing and negative comments about other people, I would not be in any company or business with you. You say you're out to help others, but yet you crucify and bash (verbally) most everyone you talk to. I am looking for a great Networking company who cares about people and has a great pay plan, but you have brought great disgrace to yours. I have never written on a blog in my life, until now. I have not written this to make you angry. I just hope you will geniunely take to heart what I've shared. There are many good companies and good people in them. We are not all created by our Maker to do the same things. We are all very limited in our knowledge of what others are doing. I certainly don't want to discourage my brother or my sister (or be-little them) because I think I have found the only Golden "Goose" in Network-Marketing that lays an egg. (or any other company)

    The Critical spirit and the bashing is really getting old. I hope you can refrain and maybe just start praying for us that someone like me can find a great company and wonderful people to work with.

    I am sincerely trying to read these different opinions and learn from others and their experiences. I wish the very best for them all. (That includes you) But ....Please !!! Stop all this negative bashing and tearing down someone else's company and them as an individual.

    Sorry to be so long-winded, but I am truly sincere. May God Bless us all, to become encouragers.

    My Name is Louis (Thanks)
    2007 Nov 16 05:43 PM | Link |
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    Hello dtttravel,

    Thanks for your comments, I really appreciate them. All I ask is this, nothing more, no obligation. Just let me show you and you decide what is best for you and your team. You 'll never know if you don't take a look. We don't convince anyone, don't hype anyone because it is just too good. I'm happy you love TYB I really think it's admirable and that is wonderful how you feel. Now I'd like to show you something if I many. A mind is like a parachute it ony functions when it is OPEN. I'm not asking you to do a thing, just let me show YOU something you many not be aware of. Not asking you to leave YTB at all..just to see something else.
    I look forward to hearing from you. If I can be any help to you please get in touch. 508 210 3117 or Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    2007 Jul 12 05:56 PM | Link |
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    As I've already said I think that YTB is a Great Company and I for one am not bickering. I am building my business and I'm sure that Heartprints143 is also. It just upsets me that a company has to charge $500 or more to start a home based business. It's just when we are notified by email that there is a new post here that we have to take time out of our busy days to respond to others who haven't done their due diligence and just jumped into anything that comes along. I've checked the others out and have found the one I joined to be the best! Have any of YOU?! Obviously not because if you had you would know that any of the celebrities that are associated with us are not paid by us. Check out the sites that have previously been posted by Heartprints143 and myself and find out the TRUTH!

    Susan
    781-665-0710
    2007 Jul 14 04:42 PM | Link |
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    Well Chris won't be back, how sad, I'm crying I'm so upset over it..Little does he know or maybe he does and won't admit it but the facts do not lie. YTB as I type this is being sued and that is the truth, like it or not. I don't know about you people out here in cyber land but I sure wouldn't want to get involved in any company that number one is being investigated, number 2 that is being sued. Also it says it the by laws of YTB that they never will change the compensation plan.Guess what folks they have changed it 3 times, no joke. The coach sold 1 million of the shares and who may I ask got that money $$$$$$??? Any answers. Buyer beware. I think all of you who think it is such a great company better check YTB before they bring in one other person.
    Let it also be known here and now John O' Hurley our spokesperson does not get paid like most other companise who buy their spokes person. WE do not and will not. The truth shall set you free. Chris take a good hard look at what you are selling. I have some swamp land I'd like to sell you too.

    Ladies and Gentlemen..the facts and comparisons DO NOT LIE. COMPARE BEFORE YOU LEAP INTO SOMETHING YOU WILL BE SORRY FOR. HYPE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, JUST HYPE. I sleep very well at night knowing that the average person who never made moeny in any other company can and does make money in what I'm involved in. The choice and ball is strictly in your court. I wish all of you the very best in present and future endeavors. G-d Bless. YTB is not a travel company it is a network marketing company, huge difference. When you care to have the very best you seek out the best, it is just that simple. Funny a gentleman hung up the phone on me because he was not interested in ANYONE who did not have $499.99 to join YTB..how sad is that? 508 210 3117 call me anytime and I'll show the best of you what we have and then you decide. To your success.
    2007 Jul 14 07:38 PM | Link |
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    Anyone who is reading this post please check out www.ytbsource.com for great information regarding your travel biz. We are a great team and our number one goal is to make you successful! Other people commenting here are trying to knock your travel biz but they really don't know the facts. Please give us a call at 314-265-9732 if you have any questions.

    Rick
    2007 Jul 15 12:49 PM | Link |
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    Rep Earnings Report
    April and May 2007
    A. In April 2007, 6,468 Reps who were not PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $541,276.02, an average of $83.71 per Rep. B. In May 2007, 7,729 Reps who were not PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $722,471.85, an average of $93.48 per Rep.
    Amount Reps
    $1 to $50 4,452
    $50.01 to $100 1,030
    $100.01 to $200 589
    $200.01 to $500 302
    $500.01 to $1,000 58
    $1,000.01 to $2,500 33
    $2,500.01 to $5,000 4
    $5,000.01 to $10,000 9
    Amount Reps
    $1 to $50 5,258
    $50.01 to $100 1,235
    $100.01 to $200 767
    $200.01 to $500 386
    $500.01 to $1,000 45
    $1,000.01 to $2,500 30
    $2,500.01 to $5,000 6
    $5,000.01 to $10,000 1
    Over $10,000 1

    A. In April 2007, 6,765 Reps who were PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $5,718,673.69, an average of $845.33 per Rep. B. In May 2007, 5,380 Reps who were PowerTeam Leaders received commission checks totaling $6,723,426.64, an average of $1,249.71 per Rep.
    Amount Reps
    $1 to $50 2,707
    $50.01 to $100 1,033
    $100.01 to $200 843
    $200.01 to $500 768
    $500.01 to $1,000 200
    $1,000.01 to $2,500 780
    $2,500.01 to $5,000 230
    $5,000.01 to $10,000 99
    Over $10,000 103
    Amount Reps
    $1 to $50 809
    $50.01 to $100 1,162
    $100.01 to $200 872
    $200.01 to $500 915
    $500.01 to $1,000 247
    $1,000.01 to $2,500 868
    $2,500.01 to $5,000 285
    $5,000.01 to $10,000 85
    Over $10,000 137

    Includes 94 YTB Directors receiving PowerTeam commissions, an average of $22,108.82 per Director. Includes 94 YTB Directors receiving PowerTeam commissions, an average of $23,798.22 per Director.

    C. Leadership($1,000) and Dream ($10,000) Bonuses paid in April and May of 2006 and of 2007 and year to date in 2006 and 2007 are as follows. (Leadership and Dream bonuses are included in PowerTeam Leader commissions above).
    Date $1,000 Leadership Bonus $10,000 Dream Bonus
    April 2006 560 0
    April 2007 1,430 19

    May 2006 450 8
    May 2007 1,248 23

    2006 Jan-May YTD 2,193 5
    2007 Jan-May YTD 8,055 121


    Note: All YTB Reps, including PowerTeam Leaders, have permanent positions with no quotas, fees or required purchases. Rep commissions are paid exclusively on the enrollment of new Referring Travel Agents (RTAs) and on their monthly license fees. Approximately 170,000 persons have become YTB Reps since the inception of the company in February 2001. The number of “active” Reps, those who have received commission checks during the past twelve months, totaled 39,481 at May 31, 2007.
    2007 Jul 15 02:49 PM | Link |
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    FLORIDA AG HITS YTB DISTRIBUTORS - SEE BURNLOUNGE

    9 July 2007 - Doing his job, Thayer Lindauer, legal counsel for Your Travel business (YTB).......... www.mlmwatchdog.com/py...
    2007 Jul 15 03:25 PM | Link |
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    Attention Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Please tell me why anyone would want to JOIN a company being sued that has 78% drop out???
    Yes, 78% drop out. YTB is NOT a TRAVEL COMPANY it is a network marketing company.

    The owner sold 1 million dollars worth of shares to buy back his house. That is no one I'd like to be involved with, not sure about you. THE PEOPLE ON THE TOP ARE MAKING ALL YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PART WITH YOUR MONEY SO FAST AT $500.00. 5 OR MORE OF YOUR TOP LEADERS ARE JUMPING SHIP..WHY? DO YOU ALL HAVE BLINDERS ON? YOU FALL FOR ALL THE NONSENSE? I know a few people also who LOVED YTB that is until they saw the difference and ran so fast away from YTB because they now realized it was not as great as the thought it was, THAT THEY WERE LED TO BELIEVE IT WAS. I would like to know on your team, how many are not sponsoring because of the high entrance fee? That alone should tell you something. They changed the compensation plan 3 times when in their bill of rights it says they never will do that. It is a recrUITING business and that is why they are being sued. They sure do not have a clean slate. I like making money with people, sorry folks I do not like making money off of PEOPLE. Take off the blinders, check out an honest company you can TRUST that does not need to hype people and take $500.00 hard earned money that people need to survive with. Average people need to be making money and that is what we have for the average person to be able to make some great money and RIGHT AWAY not have to wait til they find the person willing to part with $500.00 only to have to wait and wait til they can find another willing to part with $500. 78% drop out..NO THANKS. I'D MUCH RATHER GIVE MY MONEY TO CHARITY TO HELP OTHERS LESS FORTUNATE, CHANGE THE WORLD ONE PERSON AT A TIME AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO PROSPER AND EARN SOON AFTER JOINING. What are you waiting for..check out the BEST leave the rest. You'll NEVER know until you do that.

    Wishing you all health, happiness and success. Let me show you the way.. the right way. 508 210 3117 or Heartprints143@yahoo.c... I look forward to hearing from you.

    SEEK OUT THE DIFFERENCE PLEASE BEFORE YOU SAY HOW GREAT SOMETHING IS. YOU CAN ALL LOVE YTB TIL YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST COMPANY IN THE WOLD IS.
    2007 Jul 15 06:13 PM | Link |
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    I'm Ralph Espinosa. Owner of World Internet Network, LLC. A new MLM Computer, Internet and VOIP Co. utah.thewinsolution.co.... (No, it's not ACN) I have about 500 dist in my biz and we're growing slowly but surely. We make from 8 to 12 K a month. We have being in biz for over a year. My drop rate is about 66%. I think it's common for a people to drop from mlm when they don't see results and of course to any distributor his or her company is better than any other.

    Just and advice don't waist your time defending or saying bad things about any other company. Who's sold is sold, no more no less. You're not going to convince them to leave and join yours. It's not going to happen. Now, from time to time I go to other business opportunity meetings to see what's new and also to maximize my inactive distributors list. Meaning that if find the right opportunity that doesn't affect my own company (same products) I might join since not all the opportunities are for everybody. I'm just trying to be a true open minded mlm business man.

    When I went to the YTB I was very interested because I travel at least 12 times a year promoting my business. So, the leader was very impressed with me also and of course tried to convince me that YTB is the best. Of course, for me my biz is the best, but in the best interest of me maximizing my inactive distributor list and making a few more bucks I offer this to him. I'll sing up with YTB and work with the 300 good leads that already bought something from me if he (the YTB leader) find my first 6 people. That means that the very first person I'll sponsor will be in my power line or power group therefore maximizing my profits. It's all about business. For some reason he got offended, he didn't agree and accused my of being selfish and told me that YTB was better that my company. I can go on but let it rest assure that like I said before my biz op is better than yours like for you yours is better than mine. All I wanted was to do a little biz transaction. If YTB is as good as he said it is then sacrificing 6 people for a possibly 100 to 200 new reps. (I can 't guarantee that my 300 + inactive distributors will join but I feel that it wasn't a bad deal.) In conclusion I think this, just my opinion, though. Yes, you have to be loyal to your biz, only the loyal will make it but at the same time you need to be open minded and see that opportunity will knock in different ways. If you are doing YTB and feel like my deal is a good one please contact me. ralph_r_espinosa@yahoo... Please, I have purchase the POP form yahoo and this go to my outlook. Do not put me in auto responders, do not send me YTB deals or any other company for that matter. If your proposal is good I'll be in contact with you. Otherwise I wish you luck with YTB or whatever company you're working at.

    Ralph Espinosa
    President, World Internet Network, LLC
    2007 Jul 15 11:05 PM | Link |
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    Ralph Espinoza:
    What you were proposing sounded unethical and dishonest. No wonder, the leader got offended. I hope you are not conducting your business that way. I don't believe "it's all about business." Remember why Enron collapsed? There were a lot of leaders who thought about "business" first before thinking that there are people who are working for that business. I think business leaders should hold themselves up to the highest standard and look out for the people who works in that business. I don't understand why you would even think about having the YTB leader sacrifice six people to get a good deal from you. Does that mean that if you see a good deal, you would be willing to sacrifice six of your people. You wanted him to find you six people to "maximize your profits?" I don't know where you learned your business ethics.
    Not to mention that you were trying to trade your inactive distributors list...you being the president of a company, trying to make money of those people you were supposed to help and motivate. I don't know, but it has a bad smell to it. I wouldn't want to be involved with somebody with that kind of disposition. I hope your people succeed. I am just doubtful of your values and integrity as a leader.
    I apologize, I do not mean to be judgemental. But that is how it appears to me.
    Good Luck to your business and I hope it survive. I just worry about your people.
    --Concerned and Alarmed
    2007 Aug 07 05:41 AM | Link |
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    Hi All,
    I don't want to get into all of the "mine is better than yours" arguments. All I want to say is, I've been in YTB for 18 months and was never able to get out of my "first team" to get to my "power team" because the $500 was too much for a lot of people. I got into this new company that Heartprints is talking about and all I can tell you is i've made more money in the last month with this company than I made in the 18 months with YTB. I base my decisions on the "proof is in the pudding" and which one did I personally find easier to build. Also my upline from YTB is finding about a 50-70% drop out from YTB and a lot are, in fact, switching over. This new company is much less expensive to join and the residual is amazing! Plus there are about 6 other ways to get paid. Anyone wanting more info please email me at wizzardofahs@hotmail.c... and i'll lay it all out for you. Let me know in your email and i'll send you the link to a short video that will blow your mind! Regardless of which company you swear by, at least take the time to check out your "competition" and make a truly informed decision. Have a great day all! Best of luck in all you do!
    2007 Jul 21 09:36 PM | Link |
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    I agree with you 100% that our business is AMAZING! As I understand there are actually about 12 ways that we make money with our business. This is the 1st business online in which I've made more than a decent income. YTB people aren't checking out their competition. They're just making statements with out anything about us to back up what they're saying. I've posted my link to the presentation before but looks like it needs to be reposted. www.fantasyvacations.i... and be sure to put in your REAL info so that you can get more info later on. You can also contact me at suema2006@gmail.com
    2007 Jul 21 10:00 PM | Link |
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    In reply to wizzardofahs, anyone who can't get past their first team is not a very good salesperson. First of all anyone who is really interested and serious in starting a business CAN afford $500. I completed my first team in 8 days although I do have a few people who haven't done yet, they all have at least booked some travel. If you are having difficulty selling YTB then you either don't really understand the business concept or you don't have the ability to convey the program. I started May 15th and I am on track to have over 100 people by the end of September. If you would like to know how to do it contact me at worldtravelerz.com. Good luck to all!
    DT
    2007 Jul 23 03:48 PM | Link |
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    To dttravel,
    Well, then I suppose you can sell ice to the eskimos, can't you. The point of my post was to explain how much easier my new business (TraVerus) is compared to YTB. You see, the great thing about Network Marketing is that you DON'T have to be a Sales Person to be able to create a large successful downline. You see, for my NOT being a Sales Person such as you, I've been able to create a much more successful business with TraVerus than I could with YTB. That just goes to prove how easy it is for anyone to be successful in TraVerus. I listen to 2 of my old YTB upline that switched to TraVerus tell me how more and more of their YTB upline are quitting while they keep getting larger and larger with TraVerus.
    I'll say it again like my previous post. I'm not attacking anyone and I'm not saying mine is necessarily better or worse than what anyone else is doing. I'm talking about what it is doing for ME! 18 months is YTB with 5 in my downline (and as for sales ability, I booked $40,000 in retail travel.), and 1 1/2 months with Traverus and officially 53 people in my downline. Please don't talk to me about what you are "on track" to do. Talk reality. If I were to talk about "on track" then I guess I'll have 1000 people in my downline by September. I only talk in real terms, not what I think I'm going to do. Those of you looking for a business where you don't NEED to be a salesperson, check out traverusmovie.com and get back to me at tripsnmore.com and together we'll build an empire! Good luck in all you strive for!
    2007 Jul 23 07:39 PM | Link |
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    Here is a great article I ran accross on cnn money.cnn.com/news/new...

    I figured some of you would like to read it!

    Rick
    Your Travel Biz
    YTB
    2007 Jul 26 06:57 PM | Link |
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    CNN, The most biased news reporting there is and everyone knows it.

    Listen folks who are looking for a secure place to hang your hat. We have over 500 people from YTB but YTB DOES NOT have ANY of us in yours. That tells me volumes, you know it and we all know it. I've talked to many who dropped out because your drop out rate is 78%. That tells me something is wrong. How many do you think are willing to part with the high price of joining at the rate of $499.95.. What does one get for that kind of money.. promises that people buy into and then are so sorry. I have them on my phone every day, my phone rings off the wall with people who made nothing, lost their shirt in fact and bought YOUR stocks and lost so much money in that. I wouldn't watch CNN if you paid me. They are the worst reporting ever.

    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    You want to see a great program just get in touch with me and I'll show you. I did not post here to gain your people ever. I'm doing very well. Cost to join our program the cost of a good pair of shoes. My main purpose is to save people SAVE their hard earned money and don't throw it away. No company is worth that kind of money. I had a gentleman hang up on me on the phone saying if one hasn't got $500.00 I won't even talk to them. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. It tells me one thing and one thing only, NO COMPASSION for others. I'm a humanitarian, everyone deserves an EQUAL opportunity to earn extra income...part time or full time.

    Please get in touch with me so I can show you so you can compare. I won't convince anyone of anything the facts tell the truth.
    I don't want any ill feelings at all..JUST SAVE YOUR MONEY PLEASE.

    suema2006@gmail.com
    781-665-0710

    I'll show you the differences, I'll show you where the average person can make money right away. No experience necessary. People who never made money before in their lives are makng it with a true and honest program. We have the best comp. plan in the Industry... proven, not just saying it, I can prove it.
    Thank you for your time, keep your money in your pocket folks. Don't be taken.
    2007 Jul 26 10:25 PM | Link |
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    LOL. who are you guys and what do you offer and what do you expect from stock? All stock goes up and down.. Furthermore if you bought low you should have sold high.. Ok great business one if you see that aspect then you should have built your team and took the money and invested into something else but you chose to PLAY the stock game, in fact which is not bad but you know stock's are risky so if you had a team you should have took most of the money and then use the rest to try the stock.. LOL.. Genius..
    This company has/is changing lives if you work it. Be smart and keep building and save your checks/money however you want to put it.. But we all know stocks are risky, furthermore you make money upfront so the return on your investment is awesome. Only if you follow the model but if you re-create the wheel then O-Well you will have some SOB stories like some of you.. LOL..
    2007 Jul 29 04:45 AM | Link |
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    Hi folks, HAPPY SUNDAY to ALL.

    When a company goes public and sells stock it only means one thing..THEY NEED MONEY!
    Who buys the stock..of course the people involved in the company selling the stock. When 1 million shares are sold to by the owner to buy a building, there is something wrong. Think about the writer of the original article here. If there were no RED FLAG none of us would be here posting, correct or not?

    I'm only making a suggestion to just take a look and check out your competition, nothing more. Competition is great, it separates the men from the boys.
    Anyone have this answer, I'm just curious? Why would approx. over 500 people jump over to another company if it the company they were with is so GREAT? THERE IS A REASON FOR IT WOULDN'T YOU SAY? You do not have anyone in our company going to yours..does that tell you something or not? What am I missing here? You have nothing to lose, everything to gain if it is your choice to just check it out.

    If you dare to compare I'd like to show you, no obligation ever. You'll never know if you don't check it out...right or not?
    invest IN YOURSELF AND SEE THE DIFFERENCES..DARE TO COMPARE! The proof is in the fact that so many have left your company, why? Why do you think?
    I'd like to say thank you to all of you who posted here and wish you the success you deserve whatever company you are involved with. Let it be known here and now that I'm only watching out for thou fellow man/woman, believe it or not, your choice.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117
    2007 Jul 29 01:14 PM | Link |
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    YTB did not go public because they needed money. The bought an existing publicly traded company called REZConnect. They are public not because they needed money, but because they had money. Since it is a public company, anyone can buy the stock, so I don't know how you can conclude that the people in YTB bought the 1 million shares. And so what if they did? It happens to be a good investment. The company has grown 300% for each of the last 3 years. Sales are up. Earnings are up. And there are now over 111,000 RTAs, which = more exposure = more sales. McDonald's is the largest seller of hamburgers because they have the largest number of stores in the world. Subway has more stores than McDonald's in the US. And if I had a million shares of stock in a company and I wanted to buy a building, I would sell the shares too. Wouldn't you? What's wrong with that? I mean, that's why people invest in stocks - to make money, right? Not just for the pretty paper, but to reap the benefits of its value when the time is right or the need arises.
    2007 Sep 05 09:57 PM | Link |
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    What I would like to know and find fascinating is, can anyone at YTB tell me what commissions they receive on theri Travel business invested in? Seems like everyone is selling a business opportunity rather than concentrating on increasing their "Travel business" which they bought in the first place - really weird that YTB opportunity owners miss this point when the scheme is sold them, making all a believer. Nobody in the presentation talks about how much revenues can be generated through Travel or even what could be envisaged if you work hard at your "Travel" business.

    Curious Traveller
    2007 Jul 31 06:46 PM | Link |
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    There are several aspects of a travel business which are booking travel, fund raising, building an organization of travel agents. Travel is only one aspect, it is the product, which sells itself. No one needs to show you or teach you how to travel. Best product on the market today. Travel increases 23% faster than the world economy. Don't you want to get involved with a company on the move with a fantastic product like travel? It is a 7 Trillion dollar industry due to double in 2010. Best product on the market today and it will keep growing with the baby bomoers retiring one every eight seconds. They have the time and the money to travel. 60 million travel last year and 85% booked on the world wide web.

    The more Travel Agents there are the more buying power, the more travel cruises, vacations packages, air, condo rentals, car rentals, hotels etc booking more business. The more business we drive into the vendors/consolidators the lower the price. It is a very diversified industry. We also get discounts at resorts when we buy from the hotel gift shops etc keeping in mind they do not have to give a discounts but they do very often.

    For More information contact me Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117
    2007 Aug 02 02:10 AM | Link |
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    I have owned the stock since 1.50 made money several times and will continue to do so.
    2007 Aug 02 06:01 PM | Link |
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    We concentrate on the travel side as much as recruiting. We are currently working with several Non-profit organizations and putting together several spring break vacations. YTB is a great opportunity to cash in on the travel side and recruiting side.

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    2007 Aug 02 09:52 PM | Link |
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    Rick you are the one who hung up on me and my associate because you do not talk to anyone who does not have $499.99 to get into YTB?

    Folks, did you know 85% of that money goes to only 3% of the people, the top earners, what does that tell you.
    ?
    Folks ours is $119.95. How many people do you think you could get with that huge difference? You know the answer. We make money "with" people not "off" people. To not allow the average person a chance to earn income doesn't stand a chance with me..now you do what you think is righ , join the company you desire, your choice. Ground floor is where you want to be and not in a company that is going on 7 years old. Imagine what you would be worth if you were a founder in Amway, Mary Kay, Avon etc.

    We care about people and we make it feasible for the average person who never made any money in network marketing to earn money with our company. Don't get taken please, put your money back in your pocket. Check us and compare and you will see the differences, your choice where you'd like to be.
    You want to be careful with these companies who charge exorbitant up front joining fees. You don't want to make the top people wealthy now do you?
    You want to fall for "hype" by all means go right ahead, be my guest. Keep in mind you want to be a CTA and we have that position unlike other companies.

    At any rate whatever you decide is best for you I wish you success and I mean that sincerely.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117
    2007 Aug 02 10:35 PM | Link |
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    Suema-

    When did I hang up on you? You can join ytb for free as an independent Rep. I would have never done that....

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    2007 Aug 04 05:51 PM | Link |
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    Rick,

    How soon you forget you hung up on both of us. We were on a 3 way call with you and when we mentioned the fee your company charges you indeed hung up on us..You simply stated you don't talk to ANYONE who does not have $499.99 and hung up. . There were the 2 of us not just one on the call. You'd never do that you say, interesting you say that but you did indeed hang up on us.
    . We were interested in your thoughts and we asked very nicely questions you were not willing to answer. I will not discuss this any further. You did not have the decency even to apologize. So be it.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117

    suema2006@gmail.com
    781-665-0710
    2007 Aug 04 09:14 PM | Link |
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    Suema-

    I work with a group of people and my job is purely the internet marketing aspect. I can assure you that nobody hung up on you and the fact that you mention, "I will no discuss this any further," makes it sound like you are not telling the truth. If you were hung up on, I do apologize. We talk with well over 20 people each day on the phone and reply to several emails. I can't imagine my associate hung up on you after stating we do not talk with anyone that does not have $499.99 to sign up. We have put several people in the business as independent reps which is a free signup and we spent time with these people. Also, we help RTA's that aren't even in our downline.

    Once again, I do apologize if this indeed happend.

    Thanks

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    314-265-9732
    2007 Aug 05 09:40 PM | Link |
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    Rick,

    There were two of us on the call to you personally. You told us quote..if someone does not have $499.99 I do not want to talk to them..click..and you hung up.
    That speaks volumes about you and your integrity. You mentioned nothing about joining for free. The fact I do not want to discuss it further is because I didn't want a bigger conflict than was already stated. I always tell the truth because I do not believe in any hype or lies. There is no need of it. I have no reason what-so-ever to lie. My integrity is worth much more than any company or money or anything else for that matter. I have an excellent reputation and I protect and uphold it. I can sleep very well at night knowing I have not lied to anyone. By the way, adults do not hang up on people no matter what. We were not rude in any way, we were just asking some questions.
    I treat people the way in which I wish to be treated. I also would never do anything to hurt anyone. I'm a humanitarian and I care about ALL people and I treat them all equal.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117

    suema2006@gmail.com
    781 665 0710
    2007 Aug 05 10:56 PM | Link |
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    Suema-

    It seems as if your just trying to bash YTB and reps with lies. You cannot honestly say that I hung up on you because I have never talked with you. My associate handles ALL calls and I spoke with him today. He mentioned that your claim is false. So instead of making up lies to make yourself sound like you have a better opportunity, focus your time on another comment board.

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    2007 Aug 07 12:01 AM | Link |
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    Rick,

    We are not bashing YTB with any lies. Why don't you fess up to the fact that you in fact did hang up on me and Susan. Is your associate name Rick too, hmmm We do not have to make up things or lie. Competition is wonderful it separates the men from all the little boys who are on a power trip and need to get noticed and will do almost anything including lie to get noticed. Let it be known here and now Mr. Rick that you in fact hung up because you don't talk to anyone who does not have $499.99, YOUR entrance fee to join YOUR company.

    I asked for Rick when we called and you said I'm Rick. Maybe you need a check up from the next up, not to be rude or maybe your memorty failing you. You don't answer your calls, do you have ghosts in your house by the Rick that talk? Why did you apologize if you did not hang up on us? That is strange.

    I left it up to the individual what ever company they want to join is fine with me.

    Let's all face it I was not the one who started the beginning of this column. It was done by Andrew Left of stock lemon.com He must know what he is talking about otherwise why would he raise a RED FLAG here?

    I'm not bashing YTB where on earth did you get that idea or notion? My integrity and my associates is worth its weight in GOLD. We do not have to lie, we have nothing to lie about. Aren't you a great company, if so no need to lie. The truth shall set you FREE.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117

    suema2006@gmail.com
    781 665 0710
    2007 Aug 07 01:32 AM | Link |
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    Why so much negativity? I am wondering why Heartprints devote so much energy on being upset and negative. Everybody have their own dreams. You don't have to crush others to build yours. If you're a true leader, then teach to uplift. Speak kindly of others and respect others who are also working hard for their families. If I am a person looking for a business, I wouldn't want to join with somebody who has always something bad to say about others. If we forget for a moment the companies involved, it's hard to directly work with someone who is very negative even if you have the best compensation in the industry. Graduating from San Diego State University, I remember that our Student Health Services has on the wall the quote that says, "It is nice to be important, but it is more important to be nice." I think it will be refreshing to work with somebody who is motivating, driven, yet positive and happy;not with somebody who always seem to be mad all the time.
    Why don't we wish each other good luck and good fortune instead of waiting for a company to fold down.
    Why don't we hope that travel industry and any other industry prosper, so that we can all prosper?
    In my aspirations to be a better person, I again started to read before I go to sleep the book "Your Best Life Now" by Joel Osteen. On p. 124, I read the heading "Guard what you say." It says in that page according to the Scripture, "Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and you will eat the fruit thereof." To quote, "In other words, you create an environment for either good or evil with your words, and you are going to have to live in that world you've created."
    I am sorry, I do not mean to preach. I shared that page because I can humbly say that I need to improve myself first before I can ask somebody else to improve. And I know that to be a leader, we need to lead by example. We set the tone for our group. If the leader is negative, so the team will be.
    If I am am building a team, I would like to be positive and motivating...a dream builder not a dream killer. In my networking group, many businesses are represented. But we support and motivate each other. Sometimes, there are similar businesses. Yet never, we never put anybody down. We applaud each others efforts and recognize each other's efforts.
    I didn't mean for my post to be so long, but I felt that I should say something. I don't think too much negativity can do that much good to anybody.
    To leave with a positive thought: "Be prepared to receive God's blessings." --by Joel Osteen (Your Best Life Now)
    Peace be with you!
    --Jenny
    jennyspumpkinpatchtrav...
    jennyspumpkinpatch@ca....
    2007 Aug 07 05:06 AM | Link |
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    Let's not forget the topic here..."Reality check, raising the RED FLAG on YTB International"
    I did not post it or write it. After all is said and done the author must have knowledge of something and checked it out thoroughly before posting it here, correct or not? I'm quite sure it has to be the truth because of the consequences involved in divulging and writing such a post.
    .
    I'm sure the person felt it was the right thing to do. I believe it was to send out some sort of reality check, message for anyone and everyone to take notice here and to be aware that something is going on and to be warned. Why else would anyone post something like this?
    To assume that someone is negative without knowing the truth about that person is an assumption about that person is not in the best interest of anyone involved and not based on the truth. If you read my other posts you would see my wishes for their success and letting people decide what is best for them. I do not think that is negative but then again that is my opinion. Right or wrong I have been telling the truth because I have no reason to do anything different than the truth. I'm not here to bash anyone or any company. Just to have anyone who desires to compare and see the differences. It is up to every individual to make up his or her mind, do their due diligence what is right or best for that individual based on the TRUTH. No two people think alike anyway however it has to be based on true facts. It would be a very boring g life if we all liked the same things or felt the same about everything.

    If I have been unkind to anyone then they must have taken my words in the wrong context of what I was trying to convey.

    I'm sorry to anyone if in fact I have offended, it is and was not my intention to do that. I have no hard feelings towards anyone here or anywhere else.
    My reputation has been and always will be that of honesty and integrity. Integrity is worth more to me anyway then any company or any money earned or not earned. I have excellent work ethics and I do not think or act in a negative way. If you think that of me then you do not really know me at all. I love what I do and it is reflected in how I conduct my life and those who have chosen me as their leader. I lead by example and want only the best for them and always help them. We all work together and help each other. I have many references if anyone here or anywhere would like them they are by request.

    Again I wish you all the best that life has to offer all of you whatever your decisions in life are, what is good for you and or your family. We all have rights to our own opinions. Remember...Freedom of speech.

    G-d Bless each and everyone of you. I hold no grudges against anyone.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117
    2007 Aug 07 01:07 PM | Link |
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    I agree Jenny. I work with three different partners selling YTB Travel. We all have different jobs within our organization. My name is Rick and my associate that handles all our calls name is Rick. So this might help your confusion. Secondly, I apologized if this in fact did happen. You are dragging this out and making it sound like this is the worst thing that ever happend to you. Nobody is lieing to you and why don't you focus your time on marketing yourself rather than bashing others with false accusations.

    Rick
    www.ytbsource.com
    2007 Aug 07 12:23 PM | Link |
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    I have to agree. Seems there is a lot of focus on bashing YTB. If YTB didn't work out for you it isn't necessarily the companies fault and that means its in your hands. Placing the blame and anger on the company and taking it out on the reps isn't really cool.

    Bashing a company so you can promote your own is kinda weak too. Its not as if there is going to be a drop in market share if you just talk about the benefits of what your company has to offer. There are lots of people out there and infact, they'd rather hear the good than the negatives and excuses.

    We all have differing opinions but lets play nice.

    ytbtravelworldwide.com
    2007 Aug 16 11:53 PM | Link |
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    I agree with Tim. I have a YTB travel webpage also, 2globetrek.com/
    I got into this because I wanted to own a travel business and I like what I sell. Everyone wants to go on vacation or go on a trip.
    It is up to each individual to know your own skill and knowledge when it comes to selling. If you buy a YTB travel business, you must put in the effort to make your business successful. There are no TV commercials to do it for you. There are no self selling products. Marketing and good sales people sell the product.
    I can answer any question regarding YTB and the benefits of owning a travel website.

    James
    2globetrek.com/
    reservation@2globetrek...
    2007 Aug 19 11:06 PM | Link |
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    This was on Fri. Aug. 17 on MSNBC.

    Want to be an instant travel agent? Beware!


    While travel certainly has some perks, most of them are going the way of the dinosaur. I am sure my pharmacist has some perks, but I don't see any "clubs" or "become a pharmacist" ads. Maybe travel is an easy target. Maybe the MLM outfits feel there are more gullible people that have an interest. Most true professionals are in the business for the love of the business. Ask anyone who has been around for more than a few years.

    While these schemes pop up all the time and disappear as quickly as they appear, two of the biggest current offenders are YTB (Your Travel Biz) and World Ventures. Apparently, there is another "club" with an "insta-agent" option launching in October called eTrips Network.

    All profess to offer wonderful discounts and perks that, in most instances, will never materialize. In addition they claim to provide "identification" cards that will reap steep discounts on personal travel. I have yet to speak with someone that can convincingly verify any of their claims. As my mother has always said, "If it's too good to be true, it probably is." For more enlightenment, visit the Web site scam.com and do a search for "travel opportunities."

    That is not to say that one can't earn a living selling travel from home. There are thousands out there that do it every single day. With the growth of online sales and the reduction in brick-and-mortar storefronts, many of these displaced agents have gone home. You can, too.

    There are many legitimate "hosts" that will facilitate this and work with you to achieve your goals. They will not fill you with false promises and inflated numbers. They are interested in selling travel. They work with the suppliers to build their collective businesses and relationships. Yes, they take some money from you, but you need to review the programs and decide what is best for you.

    Some of the reputable host agencies are America's Vacations Center, Magellan 360, Cruise Planners, Nexion, GTM Travel Group and Travel Planners International. But realistically, if you want to make any money in any industry, you must be willing to work at it. Period. If you want a good list of reputable companies to begin a career in travel, check out the list maintained by the industry trade publication Travel Trade.

    12 Questions to ask before joining up for any travel opportunity:

    1. What is the initial fee?
    2. What is my bottom-line monthly cost?
    3. How often will I be paid?
    4. What percentage of my sales do you retain?
    5. How long have you been a host agency?
    6. Can you give me five members to contact for a reference?
    7. What professional affiliations do you hold as a host?
    8. What training do you offer? In house? Online? Phone? Mail?
    9. How long is the contract?
    10. Do I actually sell travel?
    11. Do I need my own insurance or am I covered under yours?
    12. Will you put these claims in writing?
    No. 12 is the most important one.

    You also might want to check out the company with your local consumer protection agency, state attorney general and the Better Business Bureau, not only where the company is located, but also where you live. These organizations can tell you whether they have received complaints about the work-at-home program that interests you.

    But be wary: the absence of complaints doesn't necessarily mean the company is legitimate. Unscrupulous companies may settle complaints, change their names or move to avoid detection. I know of one company that was a refrigeration company before becoming a travel company.

    And to the naysayers out there, I challenge you. If you can prove the claims of the riches promised, I will publicly eat crow in a future column. Just e-mail me some redacted documents — bank statements, monthly commission checks, etc. Go on, I dare you. I double-dog dare you! The ball is in your court.

    But until then, my advice to the consumer and someone looking to get into this business can be summed up in one word: BEWARE!

    John Frenaye is the president of JVE Group, Inc., a diversified company based in Annapolis, Md. With nearly ten years as a senior executive in the retail travel industry and a background in business management, he writes about the travel industry as an insider with an outsider's perspective. E-mail him or visit his Web site . Want to sound off about one of his columns? Try visiting Frenaye's forum.
    2007 Aug 20 02:34 PM | Link |
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    This author, like you, has failed to research YTB, and you are both oblivious to the fact that YTB is the 35th largest travel agency (i.e. seller of travel) and 11th in leisure travel. Someone mentioned this in and earlier post, but you either overlooked it or chose not to respond. YTB is a travel business, and their preferred marketing method is networking. Rather than pay millions for advertising, they choose to pay their reps those millions. I costs $0 to be a rep, and if you did your due diligence, you would already know that.

    “Envy shoots at others and wounds itself”
    -English proverb
    2007 Sep 03 01:32 AM | Link |
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    Dear Suema.. I just wanted to let you know that I too read this article. I actually e-mail Mr Frenaye with a simple question? Mr Frenaye, I was wondering if you contacted any of the Owners of the mentioned companies before he made this very public statement. To this day I have yet to get a reply from him. My concern is this. I have in fact met a lot of people in both of these mentioned companies. Several are personal friends of mine. I have also seen the checks and the receipts of the saving for their travel. This is the part that disturbed me the most. I also have a personal friend that has owned two travel agencies in the past and still stays in the loop. What she has been told it that the trash talk is from the Brick and mortar agents. It is not the fact that these companies are out there that is the true concern here. The fear should be the internet it's self. The fact is more people are booking travel these days through the internet. The mentioned companies are simply trying to find a way to get a piece of the pie. The bottom line is people are saving and people do make money. I personally know one young couple that joined and used it. She was able to go with her Husband and three young children to Orlando Florida on a budget of $97.00 for Four days thats three nights including the food. Now this trip alone would not have been possible for them at this price. What network marketing does for people is even the playing field. The bottom line is that you do not have to be a certain color or have a specific education to success, nor do you have to put up thousands of dollars to start up your business. One just has to have the heart and drive to make a change in there life. I agree there are many that fail. But from what I have personally seen is that they fail not because these companies do not help them. They fail because they do not continue to try. Building this business or "ANY" business is hard work. Any successful business person will tell you this. Here is an example. I go to a gym speak to a trainer, see their program looks great. I join I get excited and go for two months. I "expect" to loose a lot of weight in two months I do not. I quit! This is not the gyms fault nor does it make the gym a scam. As a grown up, I know good and well that I did not do what I was suppose to do but it is much easier to blame it on the trainer or the gym then take full responsibility for my actions. For everyone out there that may still be reading this. Make sure the information you get on any of these companies are from the source itself. Not one of these companies should have any problem with you meeting people and asking questions. Take your time to check it all out. Just as myself. Before I believed Mr Frenayne's article I wanted to know more. So far HE is the one that is not speaking the truth in my books. I wish all of the companies well. As a note if you are trash talking each other and people are thinking about the industry for me you are not selling your company you are only adding to the problem we all face in Network Marketing. The bashing of others "MAKES" it look like a scam! Wishing you all well and safe travels.
    2007 Sep 04 12:45 AM | Link |
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    Hello Folks,
    Once again, my question is this... Even if all things were equal, which travel company would you be able to market easier? One that charges $500 to sign up, or one that charges $119.95. I was with YTB for 1 1/2 years. I was only able to sign up 5 people. I made no money networking that business. I booked $40,000 in travel and earned commissions of approx. $1000.00. I checked out Traverus solely as my competition and when I saw what they offered I had to switch! Not only did I switch, but my YTB sponsor is down from 108 people to less than 40 now. I've been with Traverus for 2 months and have earned more than that in networking so far and that money is now a residual income for me so i'll continue to make at least that every month. Folks, YTB is a Network Marketing company that is trying to use travel as their "product". Traverus is an actual Travel Agency that got into the Networking business. We have so much more clout in the industry in such a short time. I'm seeing hotels offering travel agent discounts when I tell them I'm with Traverus more so than when I was YTB. Example, Pasadena Ritz Carlton $320 per night. My travel agent discount with Traverus is only $160 per night!Bottom line....whichever you choose, I certainly wish you the best! In my experience, Traverus as a company and as for compensation blows YTB away! If you want any info, please feel free to email me at wizzardofahs@hotmail.c... I'll answer any questions you may have about either company and help you make an informed decision. Either way, again, good luck in all you do. Let's quit our 9-5's and tell our bosses to kiss our butts! Can I get an Amen to that?!? Take care!
    Alan
    traverusmovie.com
    tripsnmore.com
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
    2007 Aug 19 11:59 PM | Link |
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    2007 Aug 30 07:02 PM | Link |
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    You all should read this: templarworld2.blogspot...
    2007 Sep 02 10:53 PM | Link |
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    I want to thank all of the people who registered to see the webinar last thursday. We had an amazing turn out and had a 92% sign up rate. Just wanted to say welcome aboard. Obviously there are a lot of people who watch these comments and are looking to take control of their lives. We will be doing more webinars in the very near future. Looks like it will be at least every thursday night. Anyone wanting more information, please email me at wizzardofahs@hotmail.c... Thanks and good luck to all with whatever you do.
    Alan
    2007 Sep 03 07:04 PM | Link |
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    Anybody wanting some information (Due Diligence) about YTB, give me a call 757.927.3229 I also do Real Estate Investing and I make a lucrative living doing so and do not need YTB. I'll tell you right now, when you hear about the company, talk to the leaders, talk to your YTB Family once you join. You know for sure you did the right thing. Some of these people on here that are naysayers (call me if you've never heard the term and I'll explain that) or Negative people, might of had a bad time for a week or so, not getting a call back from the sponsor, or maybe something else negative pulled them away from the goals, so now there on here backstabbing YTB. I'm not going to sit here and tell that Traverus or any other company is not good, because they probably have some good aspects also, but folks - make up your own mind for once and stop asking for opinions on some business when your gonna get bad stuff and good stuff. For others who don't like YTB, good on you, we wish you luck, but I hope you actually worked it and didn't expect it to take off on it's own. I also don't remember them promising any money to me, I went to a presentation, liked what I saw, talked it over with my spouse and we decided to do it. If 500 bucks is alot of money, well then you definitly might want go with YTB, because that so called Hard earned money is not that much. Very little if you ask me and if you get 6 RTA's underneath you, you don't have to pay anymore. Traverus seems pretty cool, seems pretty much the same thing, but people on here are claiming it's only 119 dollars. Looks to me like it's 399 for the same thing that YTB offers and with YTB, you can also pay zero dollars, and join as a rep and earn some money by bringing other people into the business as RTA's. I think the reason YTB is a little more is because they have a unique site that IT professionals are working a lot of hours on. They also have a back office where all your stuff is kept up for you. anyway, enough of that...give me a call or if you don't feel liek talking on the phone, e-mail me - jnktravel@cox.net God Speed!!!
    2007 Sep 03 10:45 PM | Link |
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    Jmatthiensen,
    Your opinion is your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it. I'm not going to comment on anything you said except one point. When you talk about Traverus being $399 to get the same thing as YTB, you are mistaken. With YTB you pay $500 to join, then you go to an 8 hour meeting and pay an additional $149 to get to CTA. With Traverus, you can sign up for only $119 and do some networking to become a CTA or you can sign up immediately as one for only $399. So, to compare, a CTA with YTB pays $649 and a CTA with Traverus if they want to start out as one pays $399. I say this because i've experienced both companies. I wish you the best. I only ask that when you try to explain something on here that people are going to want to believe, please get your facts straight first. Thanks, and good luck with your business. (Traverus also has a back office where "all your stuff is kept")

    Keep those cards and letters coming folks.
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
    2007 Sep 03 11:44 PM | Link |
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    Wizzardofahs - yep your right, my mistake. But you were right about it yesterday, now I can get people in for 50 bucks. You guys have a back office, that's awesome. Let me know when you want to come back to YTB. Our websites are wicked. I can't believe how good they're getting. We're gonna be the biggest travel company by 2011. That's the Tomer's Goal, You gotta come with us man. If not, you'll be wealthy where your at too. Take care.
    2007 Sep 04 10:00 PM | Link |
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    BTW, I forgot to tell everybody about a conference call tonight with YTB at 10:25 EST 212-461-5860 ex7707# awesome people man, awesome people. Like what you hear, e-mail me... jnktravel@cox.net
    2007 Sep 04 10:07 PM | Link |
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    oh yeah, also....anybody not hearing from Mr Frenaye from MSNBC, I did get e-mails back from him, and I told him the same thing. He doesn't do much research before bashing YTB. He's out to make money and make somebody look bad. He is negative and people, we want to stay away from people that cling to negativity. He told me that 30 % of the RTA's are making money and most of the top people are in this category, and 70 % of the RTA's are not. OK..check this out, 1 - they were lazy and thought it was going to do it on its own -or- 2. they are like a friend of mine that is in YTB. I asked her to join, she said "oh, I'm already in it and love it". I said to her, "wow, how are you doing it?" She said to me "I don't do it for the business, I just wanted my own site to book my travel because I travel once a week to all her houses throughout VA, FL, and MD. (She's a Real Estate Investor too) So she wanted to earn some money back on her own travel and fly for cheaper. SO i'm telling you now people....if the business isn't for you, you can still just use it for yourself and have all your friends and family book on your site. A good idea is to stop reading negative stuff and listening to negative people and put yourself around positive people. Things will roll into place and me personally, I think you ask the big man upstairs what he has in store for you, he'll slap you with it eventually. God Speed!
    2007 Sep 04 10:23 PM | Link |
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    Hey Jmatt....just so you know, i'm typing this with a smile on my face because I don't want you to misunderstand how i'm talking with you. I always promised myself I would never bad mouth anyone else's business. That being said, i'll never go back to YTB only because of my experiences with each company (YTB and Traverus). I promise to keep a spot for you in my downline though :) You sound like a real go-getter and I always have room for people like you. Anyway, tell me something, about the $50 you're talking about. I was under the impression that that was for existing travel agents only that want to get into YTB, not for everyone. Last thing I have to tell you, I always fall back on my personal experiences. I was in YTB for 1 1/2 years and couldn't get out of my 1st team because of the $500 to join and then I felt guilty asking for another $149 to get them to CTA. I also booked over $40,000 in travel, so it wasn't like I wasn't working the business, but in 3 short months with Traverus, I have far surpassed all commissions and what little networking money I made with YTB and I now have a residual of between my car payment and my mortgage. I certainly wish you the best of luck, sincerely, but I will have to end this by saying that if anyone wants their own travel business for $119.95 instead of $500 let me know. I'll help anyone reach whatever goals they have for themselves. It's my promise to my downline. Best of luck in all you do!!
    Alan
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
    traverusmovie.com

    email me if you want info on our weekly webinars!
    2007 Sep 04 11:06 PM | Link |
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    First off I am the author of the MSNBC column and if you sent me an email, it was answered..period. If you commented on the column, it was posted (perhaps edited because we do not allow advertising or inflamatory language)..period. If you did not receive an answer, I imagine it was hung up in a spam filter and I request that you re-send it to frenaye@tripso.com

    That being said, I have thrown down a guantlet and asked for someone, anyone to prove to me that they are making decent money selling travel with YTB. Not the website recruiting...travel. To date, I have received nothing substantial. One woman told me that becasue YTB is a public company they cannot be a scam...it is illegal for them to be a scam. Another told me that she was not going to divulge her travel commission, but to be sure that they were ample enough for her to purchase a "Cocaine White 2007 Bentley". Somehow I am pretty sure that Bentley Motorcars does not offer a "Cocaine White" color chip.

    I do not deny that people are making the bug bucks selling the downline websites. I am still looking for proof of the travel sales. They claim to have paid out over $1M in commission in July. But look at the numbers. They only paid 17,000 reps an average of $57.05. So that means that the remaining 93,000 reps (or whatever convenient figure they want to use at this point) earned ZIP for their $50 a month investment plus the $499 initiation fee. The average commission earned per RTA was even DOWN from 2006. Looking forward, they intend to pay out almost $2M in commissions for booked travel---to 32,000 reps. So again, there are now 70,000+ reps that are earning the big ZIPPO. Again, the agerage earning rep is earning $62 a month. This is NOT an opportunity to me.

    YTB is fond of saying they were #35 on the Travel Weekly list. Well, first off it was self-reported so the figures can be whatever they want them to be. But, in their defense, they were honest and said that of their $225M in sales that $175M of it was from website sales. That leaves $50M in travel sales. So how are they a travel company? That is like McDonalds calling themselves a video rental company because they have the red boxes out front. I am sure that if they could include their food revenue with the video revenue, they could surpass Blockbuster as the lead dog.

    It is a classic pyramid scheme operating on the fringe of legality. I imagine that it is legal because there is indeed a product being sold--no matter how insignificant the product is--versus just passing along money up the upline.

    The other issue is with the vendors that allow these RTAs to reap industry perks. Not YTBs fault at all--totally the vendors, but again, YTB is skirting on the fringes---they will certify you as a Certified Travel Agent. THe Travel Institute has a certification program called Certified Travel Associate (abbreviated CTA--which YTB convenienently does not use) which creates a lot of confusion.

    A lot of grey areas for sure. Stay tuned, I hear there may be some breaking news on this!
    2007 Sep 05 03:11 PM | Link |
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    as you said Mr. Frenaye:
    It is a classic pyramid scheme operating on the fringe of legality.
    I imagine that it is legal because there is indeed a product being
    sold--no matter how insignificant the product is--versus just
    passing along money up the upline.

    well I guess DSA doesn't see it that way.

    biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0...

    get out of the Rat race brother, and explode your financial income.
    you know there is a great book out there for you and everybody
    else so amazingly skeptical about Network Marketing. "The Ultimate
    guide to Network Marketing" by Joe Roebino. Someday you'll get it
    and then be doing it yourself, and then saying "darn, thank God I
    am not in the Media Industry anymore specilating about a company
    I really have no idea about but some stats that got posted by
    someone that their not reported something correctly, well no one
    is perfect either. Our company isn't perfect, but we're having a good
    time making a lot of money. Peace be with you
    2007 Sep 25 08:37 PM | Link |
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    Well they always say, those to scared to pursue their own dreams will always find a way to discourage others. Give me call if you want to be apart of something real people! Mr. Frenaye, your in a pyramid scheme as well so stop trying to convince people that YTB is a pyramid. Pretty much every job is a pyramid scheme. Difference is that YTB is a pyramid, with everybody having somebody underneath them, but my downline can make more money at it than me. You will never make more than the President or CEO of MSNBC or even a lot of your bosses for that matter.

    no it's not 50 dollars right now for only travel agents, but nice try, wait no, nevermind i said that, next thing you know, Traverus will be offering people 50 to join. take care :)
    2007 Sep 05 08:06 PM | Link |
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    YTB has already proven itself. It doesn't really matter what people have to say, there are plenty of open minded people who will see YTB for the opportunity that it is and run with it.

    Its just a matter of weeding through the negatives and the bashers.

    www.ytbtravelworldwide...
    2007 Sep 06 02:57 AM | Link |
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    A mind is like a parachute it only functions when it is OPEN.

    $25,000 challenge, anyone who can find a better company with a better compensation plan and no one has come forward and it has been out for many months now. That speaks volumes.

    Common sense rules. The facts do not lie.

    The original post here at the top says it all. If it were not true they could be sued. When you compare the cream rises straight to the top. According to the Direct Selling Association the average person only recruites 2.3 people. Why is it the top people get wealthy but the others struggle?

    Compare and you will all see the differences, facts do not lie they rule. Check us out before submitting your hard earned cash and you too will see the differences. Facts do not lie.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    508 210 3117

    No obligation just information.
    2007 Sep 10 02:00 AM | Link |
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    Well no one can actually win that contest, because all you have to say is that in your opinion YTB still has the better compensation plan. So that is a stupid contest. I mean Robert Kiyosaki says my company has the best compensation plan he's ever seen....he may know a little more about business than you. Just a thought, and we're on the NYSE...so great for you and your American Stock Exchange...when our company was on the American Stock Exchange, we were the number one performing stock....so I mean, you guys really are nothing amazing, and you don't sell anything that people can't get anywhere else, I mean seriously, way to much competition. Oh, do the attorney generals come to your conventions and speak on your behalf about how great your company is and how its changing America? Just wondering because they do at mine.

    JamesFortner94@hotmail...
    2007 Sep 14 04:13 PM | Link |
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    Sorry, forgot some facts I wanted to put down, take it as you will, but we have many people in our company who are making six figure incomes right now, who have never recruited a person, which shows our company is really about an empowering product, second, since we're talking about six figure earners, our company has a brand new six figure earner in it every 10-12 days, that has been documented for the past 2 years now, and we have a new person who has made a million dollars in their career with us every 24 days. We've been around for over 35 years now, with 14 consecutive years of growth, We were just featured in the USA today has the 3rd best Performing stock in the world, for anyone who saw that article. Also, we have people from the 80s who are no longer active in the business that are still receiving passive residual checks. Powerful.
    2007 Sep 14 04:41 PM | Link |
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    Sounded to good to be true. Saw the add in a magazine, ran to the internet, led me straight to your thoughts. Thank you! and now I will also injoy a better life...lol...
    2007 Sep 11 07:46 PM | Link |
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    you say they trade pink slip which is true, but ytb's application for the american stock exchange was accepted and by the end of the year they will be on the AMX exchange.
    2007 Sep 13 07:25 AM | Link |
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    Quick Question. So do you actually get paid for recruiting others into the business opportunity? Email me back at JamesFortner94@hotmail...
    2007 Sep 14 03:50 PM | Link |
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    It doesn't matter who I am, or where I have been, but matters most of where I am going. Doesn't matter which company you belong to, as long as it's the right company for you! I was tired of the riff raff of working my mind to the extreme in my job, when I was approached by a YTB Rep with a dream like many of you have. I was pondering it, and decided to investigate the company and what it had to offer someone with my desires in life. After careful consideration, I also had joined the YTB network and have had no regrets or resentments since. A Little background on me, well, I was one of the ones making 200+ p/y, but I also realized that money doesn't buy happiness Nor did I want to spend 500 dollars on something that I wasn't sure I really wanted to do. At first, my family and I invested in it for our own travels, as did many of my friends when they found out how little it costs for me to travel. I actually quit my job making the 200+ p/y, and now I have all the time in the world with my family, plus a great income that I have from the enjoyment of booking trips for other people. If you are willing to work hard at anything you do, you too can make a great income and like I said before, It really doesn't matter what company it is, as long as it's right for you. So please, sit back, smell the roses and stop bickering about which company is the best, just pick the one that is the best for you and may you all succeed at building your dreams.

    Any comments any of you may have or would like to discuss please feel free to contact me @ whatadreamtravel@aol.c... and I will do my best to oblige you.

    Thank you all for the enlightening words that each of you have written. Have a great day and enjoy the rest of your lives!
    2007 Sep 15 01:39 AM | Link |
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    You replied to my comment, but ignored my question. Interesting. See it was just funny because someone from YTB called the number 2 money earner in my company and tried to recruit him. Well the guy from company simply said this "Well, let's do this, we'll send in the name of your company and the business model along with your name attached to it, to your states attorney general and see if he believes its a company people should attach their name to, and the guy hung up on him and has never called him back since. That says something there.
    2007 Sep 15 11:14 AM | Link |
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    MEETING WITH A YTB AGENT NEXT WEEK TO JOIN. IS THE EARNING POTENTIAL THEIR?? I AM A REAL ESTATE CONSULTANT WITH OVER 300+ IN MY DATA BASE TO WORK WITH, COULD THIS BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY?? I GUESS I AM A LITTLE HESITATE, PLEASE I CAN USE ANY FEED BACK
    2007 Sep 19 02:40 PM | Link |
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    Bobby,
    Before you make the plunge with YTB, email me and give me the opportunity to give you a better offer.
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
    I'd rather not discuss it in here.
    My name is Alan.
    2007 Sep 19 04:53 PM | Link |
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    Bobby,
    Before you make the plunge with YTB, email me and give me the opportunity to give you a better offer.
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...
    I'd rather not discuss it in here.
    My name is Alan.
    2007 Sep 19 04:57 PM | Link |
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    wizzard, that is great that you got a great company now in Traverus,
    that is awesome dude. But just because you could not make it out
    of the First Team, doesn't mean you need to be on a site that is
    popping up when people search for YTB on google. I'm sorry dude, or
    Alan, but you do not have a better offer. You have a lower price,
    that's it. There is a reason we are a little more. We have the better
    company and the better management. If you happen to snatch up
    Big Bobby here, I hope he does awesome too, but Bobby, you may
    have to pay a little more, but I guarantee brother, your paying for
    more than just your site. Your paying for your upline and a friend and
    120,000 family members and growing. Bobby check this out too,
    biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0...

    Are CEO got us all into the DSA, read the article. I'm not for sure on
    this one, but you'll see a lot of people on here are letting you know
    that they do not regret one bit getting involved with YTB. What's
    the negative coming from, this wizzard guy that wanted an easier
    business to pull people in and maybe one or two more if that. tell you
    what Bobby, go meet with Wizzard, and then go meet with your YTB
    Potential Mentor/Friend/Family Member and see which one you like.
    They'll let you know we're DSA Associated Member now, Publicly
    traded on the stock market, Have a Bill Of rights for your benefits, director
    level Life Insurance, Medical plan, plus tons more, and are Compensation
    plan is the best in the Network Marketing Industry. DSA even states with
    thier code of ethics, that we're not overcharging and we don't make promises,
    it's all about how much you put into it, and I'm working still but I love doing
    this on my off time and on time, oh and the Inbetween time. We are loving this
    company and it is so stellar Bobby, I'm telling you this now. If you
    find that Traverus is for you, go for it, good luck. But I guarantee
    you'll be loving the people of YTB at the national convention and just
    the people in your area that are trying to show you thier business
    because they now want to share the unlimitless possibilities. We're
    here for you, so you have Alan's, and if you lost your YTB Point of contact,
    throw me an e-mail and I'll get the information so you can think about it.
    I wanted to think about it too, but My wife heard about YTB from 20
    different people and she said "No thinking needed". Give your YTB rep a call first
    if you haven't called anybody. He or she is the one that made the effort to call
    you, and this guy is trying to steal him from your rep doig it the easy way. Sounds
    real cool to me. and he'll come back at me by saying he's smiling at me because
    he doesn't have time for my BS, and then he'll come back at me by saying how wonderful his Traverus
    is, so what dude, go start another website for Traverus so when people search for Traverus, they get your site Alan!

    Bobby, whichever you decide, keep your self around poistive people and not the ones that continually try to offer you "better" when
    he told all of us three weeks ago, that he is never puts down another company.
    I'm kind of seeing maybe a reason you could not get out of your first team on into your
    power team, get off of the computer and go share Traverus with others.

    jnktravel@cox.net <---there you go Bobby, I'll send you the info and you can still
    sign with the other YTB rep and not me, as long as we save you and give you an awesome
    company, not a better offer.
    2007 Sep 25 07:18 PM | Link |
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    Again, not dissing YTB or Traverus, but YTB reps need to quit saying that they the best opportunity and compensation in the network marketing industry, unless you have single handedly investigated every single network marketing company that exists today. I'm sure you both have great comp plans, but stop saying you're the best, seriously, cuz you honestly don't know. Again, I could out do your company with third party, the BBB says a lot of bad stuff about YTB, and not just YTB, but the Headquarters of YTB, and the BBB is very refutable. Also, Paul J. Meyer (research him if you don't know who he is) has started over 40 companies, is credited as being the father of personal development, and is a legendary multi-billionaire in sales and sales training. He states that my company is the best opportunity he has seen in over 50 years, and he works with our company. That may be a clue, when you have a legendary billionaire working for your company because he doesn't want to miss out on the opportunity.
    2007 Sep 26 09:16 PM | Link |
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    First of all, 11 lifes til director (good luck with that), at no time did I talk bad about YTB. I said I wasn't able to do well with it in 1 1/2 years and found it much easier and more rewarding in 3, now 4 months with TraVerus. Just because something is less expensive doesn't mean it isn't better. Remember when 4 function calculators cost over $100? Now you can get them for practically free. I wont bash YTB. Never have and never will. In fact, people that have called me from this site have heard me tell of my experience and not anything bad about the company.
    Anyway, this is a report that comes directly off of your YTB site...

    RTA Earnings Report
    July 2007RTAs book travel and travel related products utilizing their private label internet online travel website licensed to them by YTB. RTAs earn 60% of the travel commissions received by YTB. Travel commissions become earned when the customer's travel is completed, not upon customer booking or payment.
    1. Active RTAs
    Month End #RTAs RTAs active for at least 12 months
    July-06 38,092 7,208
    July-07 106,102 16,846


    2. Number of New Bookings
    Month All RTAs RTAs active for at least 12 months
    July-06 19,303 3,075
    July-07 70,064 8,938


    3. Travel Commissions Paid RTAs Active at least 12 months

    Month Commission RTAs Av. RTAs Commissions Commissions RTAs Av.RTAs Commissions
    July-06 $305,522.22 4,956 $61.65 $143,603.68 1,279 $112.28
    July-07 $1,006,512.82 17,644 $57.05 $365,020.18 3,556 $102.65

    4. Pending Bookings
    Month Pending Bookings Commission on Pending Bookings # RTAs with Pending Bookings
    July-07 92,733 $1,996,244.00 32,720


    It's probably harder to read on here so i'll help you out.
    Average RTA travel commissions from July '06 to July '07 actually went down from $61.65 to $57.05 Not only did it go down, but who wants to be a travel agent for $57/month?
    Average Active RTA commissions (which I assume to be from your comp. plan went down from $112.28 to $102.65 in the same time period. Now that appears to me that your average RTA in YTB is working to make $159.70 if I combine the two numbers. All i'm saying about Traverus is that I was able to make a lot more than that in the first 3 months and it's a residual that I will continue to make forever. Again, don't misread what i'm saying here. I'm saying that my experience with YTB was not nearly as good as it is with Traverus. Yes it's less expensive, but that just makes it easier for the average person to get in and build a better life for themselves. As for me going to a YTB site to "steal" people away, first off i'm giving people a choice, and secondly, if you read the heading of the original article on here, it talks about "raising the red flag on YTB".
    As for the people of Traverus, I just got back from a 6 day/5 night cruise to Mexico. It was one of the many Member Trips made available to the members of Traverus. We paid $280 for an oceanview cabin which included all port charges and taxes. We had about 250 of the cabins and the people were awesome!!

    Lastly, 11 lifes, I found this site by accident when I googled "YTB Scams".
    If anyone wants to contact me, i'll explain more about my experiences with both companies so you can make an informed decision.

    check out my website at:
    traverusmovie.com and then email me at:
    wizzardofahs@hotmail.c...

    Good luck to you 11 lifes, and to all who choose to strive for a better life for themselves in whatever you decide.



    2007 Sep 28 05:17 AM | Link |
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    How would you know the BETTER offer? YOu don't even know or bother to check out if it is a better offer or it isn't. It has nothing to do with the price of entry it has to do with the bottom line the COMPENSATION PLAN. Lower price hight price the proof is in the compensation plan. Do not let the price fool you into thinking it is better because it costs more..Rmember please RCCL just banned you because you meaning YTB is a card mill.. wake up YTB please. Lets compare apples to apples.
    2007 Oct 28 11:17 PM | Link |
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    Just talked to a friend who is a new YTB Travel "Agent" I dont' have the heart to be negative about her new "business" Education is never cheap and she has a few bucks to invest in her education. What I will do is send her to my site The Seven Great Lies of Network Marketing
    time4.the7greatliesofn.../ I hope she will still talk to me after reading it. It strips away the MLM B.S. and sometimes upsets upline sponsors.
    Regards,
    OZ
    2007 Oct 01 01:51 PM | Link |
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    The 7 great lies of network marketing is a bunch of B.S. I do exactly what my upline sponsor tells me to do and I'm having a lot of success. I'm 19 years old, been involved with my company for 9 months and already I've reach the 2nd highest level...so uh....keep your lies to yourself. No, I'm not with YTB or Traverus, I just hate the people that go around and say Network marketing doesn't work...when it really does, if you do it right.
    2007 Oct 01 11:59 PM | Link |
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    Hey did you hear the news? YTB was fired by RCI. How bout that. I hear that there are more suppliers that are realizing that they are not operating as they should be....stay tuned fellas!

    As to them trading on the AMX--come on they are at $1.74 a share and tanking. Look at the three month trend. And when the beloved "Coach" is selling shares faster than a hillbillly stomping on a cockroach in his double-wide--it makes for a questionable investment.

    If I were sol gullible to buy into it, I might be inclined to get an attorney and see if I can get my money back.
    2007 Oct 17 11:54 PM | Link |
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    MANY HOME-BASED AGENTS have contacted Travel Weekly's Home-Based Agent E-letter in recent days to comment on the news that Royal Caribbean Cruises' three brands began terminating their business relationships with companies they concluded were card mills. "Hooray for RCCL! I have been in the business 30 years, and their efforts to qualify agents is great," wrote Maryellen Iobst, a certified travel counselor. "It's about time someone sits up and takes notice that all the professional agencies create a value. I hope that all the other cruise lines follow." Others, such as an agent identified as "Rick," wasn't so pleased. "Well, come on, give us the names of the companies that Royal Caribbean is blackballing," he wrote. YTB International and Joystar have confirmed that Royal Caribbean had informed them that the cruise company would no longer do business with them. One YTB agent wrote that YTB gave him the opportunity to enter the travel business, and that he was saddened by the news. It is believed that Norwegian Cruise lines will follow RCCL.

    Anyone wanting information on a truthful travel business should call
    508 210 3117 for information and the Truth what a REAL Home Based Travel Company has in store for you. The facts DO NOT LIE.
    There is no obligation what-so-ever do get your questions answered. Yes, there are companies that really DO IT THE RIGHT WAY!
    PLEASE ASK FOR SHEILA
    THANK YOU AND I WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST IN HEALTH, LIFE AND HAPPINESS AND OF COURSE YOUR TRAVEL NEEDS.
    2007 Oct 22 05:13 PM | Link |
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    I believe this is the beginning of the end of YTB
    Shortcut to:
    www.truveo.com/IATA-Te...

    Susan 781-665-0710 ET
    www.fantasyvacations.i...
    destined2fly.com
    2007 Nov 17 12:13 AM | Link |
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    Attention those interested in securing their future. PLEASE do your due diligence, check out ANY company before investing your hard earned money into something you know little or nothing about. DO NOT FALL FOR ALL THE HYPE..because it is just that HYPE. Find out from the new people if they are making the money promised them and they are getting the help and training they need to succeed in any business. Be aware that the person trying to involve you has a vested interest in bringing you into the business. Don't just jump on in with little knowledge. Find out also if the system is easy to duplicate by the average person. Ask yourself how many people will you be able to bring into the business, who has the money to invest. There is no need for companies to charge large amounts of money to earn large amounts of money. BEWARE! If a company charges high fees to get involved it means simply this, that 85% of that money goes ONLY to 3% of the people. Ask about the attrition rate in the business.
    Don't get hyped up because a business is involved in the stock market, that means that company needs money and only the people in that business will buy that stock. Not a good investment. Check out the Internet and see what the Internet has to offer for Information about the company you are interested in. Be a savvy individual get the facts and get ALL your questions and concerns answered by competent people. Make sure those trying to get you involved are making the kind of money promised YOU.

    Respectfully,
    Sheila
    508 210 3117
    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    2007 Nov 17 01:57 PM | Link |
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    To the savvy Invester,

    Please check out ytbexposed.com
    2007 Nov 21 12:59 AM | Link |
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    The title of this article says it all. BEWARE
    2007 Nov 27 12:08 AM | Link |
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    I would NOT do business with someone that has to bad mouth other companies in an EFFORT to make their company look "better".
    Shame on all of you at TraVerus! YTB looks MUCH better to me.
    thesavytraveler.com
    2007 Nov 30 06:01 AM | Link |
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    I would not do business with any company that has so many red flags against them. You call it bad mouth I call it exposing the TRUTH to the public at large and do not hype them with large amounts of money they can make and they pay their money get in and struggle. I did not write the sites..such as ytbexposed.com (take a look at what this site has exposed) which is only one of them. I also am not connected with Royal Caribbean who banned them. Iata has banned them as well..not me.
    When someone spends good money they should know what they are getting involved in, all the facts. They need to know the truth beyond anything else.
    No one is asking you or telling you or anyone else which company to become a member of, it is their decision but they need the TRUTH. We are just stating the facts nothing more so consumers will be well informed. I do not think that is bad mouthing any company. I did not tell them nor would I which company to choose, it is all up to the individual. WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY EFFORT TO MAKE US LOOK BETTER, however WE HAVE A $50,000 challenge, if anyone can find a better company with a better pay plan aka compensation plan and not one company of any kind, in a year has come forward. That in itself speaks volumes about any company. Companies should be honest and upfront in every aspect of their business. Their stock is worthless right now...expalin that. Scroll up to the top of this page, what does it say? I did not write that either. "Reality Check" Raising the RED FLAG on YTB International. It is your right and desion not do do business with any one not of your choosing, WE ALL HAVE THAT RIGHT.

    For more truthful informaiton contact
    me at Heartprints143@yahoo with your name, day and phone number so I can get back in touch with you if you want additional information. There is NO obligation only good solid informatiion and the TRUTH.




    2007 Dec 03 04:43 PM | Link |
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    I wanted to let you know about our company. We sell 3 day 2 night travel certificates that are used by many companies as incentives.

    The cost is only 0.35 cents each and they come with your company name and website imprinted on the certificates.
    www.increasebusinesssa...

    Think about using these for referrals or give them to customers/clients. You can sell them for a profit to your down-line.

    The end user of the certificates has a choice of over 20 destinations to pick from. Take a look at the destinations at the website. www.increasebusinesssa...

    They pay a processing fee of $12.00 and the taxes on the room which is about $7.00-$12.00 a night depending on the location.

    www.increasebusinesssa...
    2007 Dec 15 12:25 AM | Link |
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    YTB has many question marks....it is important to read and research the findings of Andrew Left before deciding to join YTB...chief among these is the main source of revenue....i.e. recruiting fees. In Canada it is receiving income for recruiting as opposed to product or service driven income that defines an MLM as illegal.
    One among many other concerns is the emphasis on the "Success From Home Magazine"..with an issue at least in each of the last 2 years dedicated to YTB. This publication has all the earmarks of "bought advertising" yet Reps pass it on as evidence of an independent 3rd party analysis pointing to legitimacy. YTB has so far been prevented from entering Canada becaause IATAN (Canada) will not endorse YTB or give it or ot's REPs IATAN status. This is particularly frustrating because again Reps (and maybe YTB) mislead potential Reps by saying they can get the FAm Trips and other perks of legitimate Travel Agents. YTB identifies their Reps , not as Travel Agents, but Referring Travel Agents. Just as in Primerica where Referring agents cannot act as financial planners, nor can YTB Referring Travel Agents act as legitimate travel agents. It appears that YTB has qualified Travel Agents in other parts of the organization who fulfil this role...but it is YTB's responsibility to come clean about what Referring Agents cann and cannot do and what they can and cannot get in terms of travel industry perks. YTB is ultimately responsible if misleading statements are made at meetings promoting YTB as a business. Again, in closing, there remain too many questionmarks about YTB. Posting rep income data does nothing to prove the legitimacy....lots of really bad MLM models have made a number of reps at the top of the pile wealthy...this does not mean they are honest endeavours...often they are skillfully skirting the law. The money statements cause greed-driven people to get involved.
    2007 Dec 17 10:57 PM | Link |
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    There has been quite a discussion on this topic. I just want to say, if anyone is interested in joining a leader with Traverus who has researched the industry thoroughly and is quickly rising to the top, please visit www.TraverusGuru.com We are experiencing rapid growth in both the travel sales and the network side of things. I have strong opinions about the other companies but would rather focus on building where I have chosen to lay a solid foundation for the future. All who are serious (not curious) and commited to building true financial freedom are invited to join me. I have a proven, duplicatible system for helping you succeed.

    Regards,

    TJ
    2007 Dec 19 01:27 AM | Link |
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    Why I chose to join TraVerus Travel.

    1. The honesty and integrity of the founder, David Manning, CEO/President
    (Mr. Manning's credentials available upon request)

    2. The help and support provided to me on an on going basis.

    3. The compensation plan is the best in the Industry

    4. The $50,000 challenge if anyone can find a better company with a better compensation plan..that is a guaranty in itself about this opportunity, TraVerus Travel.

    5. There are 10 ways of earning income and I can take advantage of all of them if I so desire or just book travel only.

    6. The member trips huge discounts not available anywhere else. I can travel in luxury that in the past could only be afforded by the wealthy. I can travel more often too wherever and whenever I want to.. Europe does not have to be a once in a lifetime trip.

    7. the product Travel is a 7 trillion dollar industry, expected by experts to grow to 14 trillion on or about 2010. Travel is the most researched word on the Internet and 85% booked on the world wide web. travel increases 23& faster than the global economy. With the baby boomers retiring every 8 seconds and will do so according to researchers for the next 18 - 20 years. Their favorite activity is travel and they have the time and the money to travel.

    8. I could do this business from the comfort of my home in my slippers if I wanted to. No driving, no gas, no sitting in traffic, no worries.

    9. No BOSS looking over my shoulder, I can work for my future, not someone else's.

    10 The huge tax benefits.

    11. The tools provided to enable me to be successful in a short period of time.

    12. I'm paid on the effort i put in for me not for someone else.

    13. The HELP from my up line leaders

    14. Financial freedom, residual income, you build it ONCE, and have it for a lifetime and it can be passed on from generation to generation. It can bless me and my family financially.

    15. Earn money while I sleep.

    16. We are all over the world/international, no territorial boundaries. We are in over 40 countries and many of those companies we have the ministry of tourism in out company.

    17.I can stop anytime I wish and I still get a monthly check, every month for life!

    18. I did not have to be a recruiting machine, could work at my own pace and knew that I could bring in AVERAGE people from all walks of life, without any formal education or financial burden to join and they too could earn significant money and not have to ask anyone for a large entrance fees. We have professionals as well as non professionals joining us every day. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY BUSINESS so no one is left out because they do not h ave the money to join.

    As J. Paul Getty put it and he was one of the richest men in the world. " I'd rather have 1% of 100 people than 100 % of myself. Colonial Sanders said, "If I can have one chicken store on the corner, I can have them all over the world on every corner". He was over 60 when he made his million.

    I'm free to be me, to do what I wish when I wish to do it and not have money constraints. We make money WITH people not OFF of them.

    I would love to take you along with me to become financially free if you will see the vision that I saw, I became a member of TraVerus Travel and never looked back. This is the gift I give to you that was given freely to me and now I'm offering it to you so you in turn can offer it to those you love and care about.

    "A stranger is only a friend you have not met yet!"

    I look forward to meeting you, helping you succeed. I have dedicated my life to making others successful and I'd like to do the same for you. Please contact me for more information and the presentation. I look forward to hearing from you.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...


    2007 Dec 22 12:41 PM | Link |
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    In any network marketing company/mlm that get's as big as YTB many Reps will do some dumb things. As the Reps are independent from YTB many will try and do things their way. Some will advertise and start campaigns before checking with Corp. and cause trouble for all the reps. YTB is big and the travel industry is taking notice and some are slinging mud with rocks in it. YTB will overcome. As will any company grounded in the Truth.
    2007 Dec 26 01:24 PM | Link |
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    ****** You said it all "networkmarketingcompl... YOU ARE NOT A TRAVEL COMPANY. It is not about doing things that are as you put it dumb, it is another to keep things hidden when you know about them and do not expose them to the public before they join YTB. Look up "card mill" After they pay their hard earned money to their sponsor they find out the truth the hard way after they are out $449.95 of which 85% of that money only goes to 3% of the top earners. If YTB is as big as you say that they are a few bad apples will not spoil the whole darn bunch. IATAN and RCCL just does not go around banning without a good reason. What is the truth you speak of please? Inquiring minds want to know. If there is safety in numbers it does not affect the whole company of YTB what just a few reps do. Deception is no way to come out smelling like roses in any company. I hope YTB survives but for the right and truthful reasons, not deception. Why so secretive as to who you are by putting your ****** instead of your real name, what are you hiding? Interesting. Rhode Island has been banned and the web sites have been shut down. Is that an act of some "dumb" rep too?

    2007 Dec 27 07:53 PM | Link |
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    Boy, there is so much hatred here by some.....
    CANUCK MLM'ER, you say YTB should come clean and inform their RTA's on what they can and cannot do. What's keeping you from picking up your phone, calling the coach directly or one of the hundreds of Directors and asking the questions you seek answers on. It's easy to sit back and claim you don't get answers on things when you don't ask the right people for them. As with any endeavor, your success is directly proportionate to the amount of effort you put into it. Zero from Zero is still ZERO........ YTB Baby....all the way.....
    2007 Dec 31 02:29 AM | Link |
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    Oh, I forgot one BIG thing. When was the last time Traver us Travel was on "any" magazine cover, let alone from cover to cover like YTB has in "Success From Home" January 2007 and January 2008, let alone on the cover two times in one year, or the first time any company has graced their cover twice in over 20 years, and oh, on Fortune Magazine as well, Diller VS YTB, and oh, on Travel Weekly's cover as well, and oh.... Who ever heard of tarverus travel. Sounds like a virus of some kind to me. For those of you interested in YTB, remember this. These magazines don't cover a company cover to cover like this for nothing. They are sellective and only cover winning companies. Hence the word "Success". One's like YTB. Competitors will bash their competition especially when they are rolling out a better business model and comp plan. YTB's is copyrighted because it is so well designed. Hence the word, copyrighted, meaning "protection". Pick up the January 2008 issue of "Success From Home magazine". Hence the name Success...... If you can't get one, just e-mail me and I will make sure you get one..... I also have a list of all the YTB meetings across the country for those who don't know where to go and listen to those who are successful. Losers beget losers. Winners foster more winners. What group do you want to belong to. Let me know if you are interested in attending one of these FREE seminars. They are free, no one pressures you and you can join later on if you so chose. I have attended meetings all over the country, and the one thing I have witnessed over and over again, is no one leaves during the breaks and over 80% of the attendees join this company.... Why? As with any business model, there is a return on your investment. As for the small fee, you earn that back as well. I did my first month and you can too. That's why there is a 300+% growth in this company....

    As for product....The purchase of a vacation, airfare, hotel or car is the product/service, etc, ....... Just like priceline, expedia and orbitz to name a few..... Winners, e-mail me and I will make sure you all receive what it takes to be part of the next Google in the Travel Industry. There's a reason why this company went from #35 to #20 in the industry in just one year.... It's called, SUCCESS and you can be a part of it...
    2007 Dec 31 02:58 AM | Link |
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    I just checked out the traver us travel site and what a cheezy web page. My gradeschool nephew can create a site better then that. And, oh, check out how they even copied the YTB format of:

    You'll benefit from 4 major market shifts that are underway:

    Baby Boomers: In the USA alone, a baby boomer turns 60 every 8 seconds. This will continue for the next 18 years! The number 1 thing they all want to do with more time is TRAVEL! -******** allows you to meet a need that is going to continue growing.

    Exploding Travel Industry: In part because of the baby boomers but also because of so many other market forces, travel is a $7-trillion dollar per year industry and it is growing at 23% faster than the global economy. That's so much money that anyone who works at their business will do very very well. There's finally enough cash for everyone!

    The Internet: People are so comfortable buying over the internet these days. They buy cars and even homes -online! Selling travel over the internet is a huge channel in and of itself! This is why companies like Expedia, Travelocity, Orbitz, Priceline, Hotwire, etc. spend millions of dollars in advertising each and every week! Wouldn't you like to cash in on this industry -even getting a very small fraction of the revenue being generated?

    Home-Based Business Growth: The single best defense against paying too much in taxes is to have a home-based business. Imagine writing off some of your vacations, because you had to go "see" a property you were going to feature in your travel business. You'd no longer call this a vacation but a PAYCATION!

    If there's one thing going here, this company recognizes how promenant YTB is,by replicating many of its features and formats and makes just little changes in how it copies YTB's language. Check out how professional the YTB site is, then read for yourself.

    YTB set a world record this past November by booking 12,000+ cruise boat cabins in one day. This has never been done by ANY other travel booking company in the history of travel booking. That's incredible booking power no other company can hold a candle to.....

    I have a print out in my hands from Travel Weekly's 2007 Power List dated 6/25/2007 of the top 52 travel companies in the world. Traver us is not even on the list and #52 posts sales of 100 million dollars. Although this list was published in June of 2007, this coming year, you will see YTB move up from #35 to around #20. That's phenomanal growth for any company no matter how the competition paints it. Lets see traver us or any other wanna bee upcomers come close to that "success". As with any company experiencing rapid growth at this pace, there will be bumps along the way. Even Google or MSN had problems.

    JMHO
    2008 Jan 01 07:11 AM | Link |
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    If you are comparing apples to apples we WIN. We have broken all records and we are not a wanna Be company at all. WE DO NOT EVER WANT TO BE LIKE YTB EVER, LET'S GET THE RECORDS STRAIGHT HERE. Why so much negative on the Internet about YTB then??? These people are not making it up..www.ytbexposed.com Scroll up to the top of this page...How come half the people are kept in the dark about what is REALLY GOING ON IN YTB ???? Let the TRUTH be KNOWN. Why did Royal Caribbean and IATAN ban you..just for the fun of it? Let's get real here please. Call a spade a spade for once.

    ANYWAY WISHING EVERYONE A HAPPY HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR, 2008. SUCCESS TO ALL.......If you are happy where you are stay..I do not think anyone is keeping you against your will.
    2008 Jan 01 06:49 PM | Link |
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    What apples are you comparing? The company you claim is so hot does not even rank in the top 52 listed by Travel Weekly and is not even in close to being in the same league as YTB. The company you claim is so hot can't even come close to the 300% annual growth that YTB is experiencing year after year. The company you claim is so hot did not set a new world record of 12,000 cruise boat cabins booked in one day like YTB did.....Yes, in one day.... So tell us, how do you claim you have WON when the hot comapny lead by commedians is not even on the radar......

    You will see a turn around on those bans also...you just don't know it yet....besides, banning one does not prove fault or wrong doing...thats what courts do. Just spiders that come out of the woodwork jumping on the bandwagon so their wanna bee start ups with paid movie star endorsements can create false impressions to make it appear to be a great company....Negative press always begets negative gaukers.

    One of the scariest things to steer clear of is doing business with the likes of comedians and low level movie stars who make outragious claims about new businesses. Kinda reminds me of an info mercial. Movie stars and sports figures do not put their name on anything unless paid very well to do so and they use agents to get those endorsements. They make piles of money doing endorsements that create a false sense of security and will tell you anything you want to hear because the more they convince you, the more they make. What makes them a professional in the travel industry anyway when all they do is stand on stage and tell jokes? Preaty soon, they will be professionals in stocks, airplanes, mortagages and vacation packages....LOL

    Oh, I forgot, it was the private jet they use to fly around from stand up gig to stand up gig and 250 people in the audiance...Ya, that convinces me they are the right people to follow. I'll bet they received honorary credentails to make it even more convincing they have what it takes.... LOL. No one is forcing you to check out YTB, but when the lightbulb goes off, if it ever does, you will wish you were on board now and now five years from now. Best of luck to those who feel following a stand up commedian on dancing with the stars is your best foundation for getting involved in a start up company. You can bet a large portion of your start up fee is going to pay for their endorsements......

    JMHO
    2008 Jan 03 12:18 AM | Link |
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    Excuse me.. We were not banned by Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines.
    We were not banned with IATA, We were not shut down in Rhode Island either. I suggest you take a look at ytbexposed.com
    Wake up..those statistics don't hold a candle to us. You have been going down hill since this article above was written. Your stocks have gone way down. Your Coach sold a million dollars worth of your stock and bought his dream home and a building. Your company keeps everything in the dark, many of your members have no clue what is going on with your company. All the negative articles written about your company is not true, are you saying, I rather doubt that. We have a CLEAN record and we are way ahead of where you were at this time. We are not a start up company, we are a spin off of a 26 year old company. We were establishing rapport for 4 years with all the vendors before we went on direct selling Nov. 1, 2006 far from being a start up company. We wanted a good foundation before we went into the direct selling market. We have approx. 2, 000 or more people from your company doing exceptionally well with our company. If your company was so wonderful these people would have stayed with you. The national association of direct selling says the average person only recruits 2.3 people. You have to be a recruiting machine in order to make it in your company. Your company guarantees to make a certain amount of money, impossible for the average person and you have to give up your first 6 to your up line. It What company can even think of guarantying a figure like that and it is not for the average person getting involved in your company. The person who joins us can start earning immediately. Our spokesperson DOES NOT GET PAID and spent 16 years looking for the right company and he chose ours. We would never wish to be involved in your company and no light bulb will ever go off and we would never jump ship to your company. We have thousands from your company joining us but you DO NOT have any of us joining your company.
    You know all the movie stars and sports figures and know that no one puts their name on anything without getting paid..you are so WRONG. John O ' Hurley is involved with non profit organizations John does nto need money for being our spokesperson, he joined us because he saw the integrity and honesty of the founder and CEO. Integrity is everything in life, just in case you did not know that. It can't be bought for any price. Our company would never "wanna be" like yours. Companies just do not go around banning companies with out a very good reason they could be sued. If you had any knowledge about companies you would know this fact, when a company goes public stay clear of that company. Spoken from one of the top earners in the industry, he is not in our company by the way either..that is the biggest red flag about your company. You were not banned for the FUN OF IT, they had a good reason. We do not have to be listed anywhere to be successful we are successful on our own merits. One of our top leaders was with your company and when he saw what we offer there was no question which is the better company and he is with us now along with thousands who did the same thing, joined us.

    I do not wish you or your company any harm and hope they get out from under the radar but it is highly unlikely at this point. Florida and California also banned your company.

    How about the truth for once??? Sounds like it just does not exist.
    One does not have to be listed anywhere to have a GREAT company.

    My Best wishes to all of you in your endeavor to succeed in whatever company you choose. We are an equal opportunity company and are AFFORDABLE for EVERYONE...it appears you are not by your high fees you charge not only to enter but to be credentialed and you are listed as a "card mill". Anyone can succeed in ours, that is not true with many companies. Take a good hard look at what you type here. I've dealt with many in your company only to find out how rude and disrespectful they are and do not answer questions properly they hang up on you..my experience with many from your company of which I was just interested in getting more information, nothing more.

    If anyone would like more information please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... There is never any obligation . I have a very successful enterprise going and do not need anyone in my business. I built my business on my sincerity. If it is your decision to join me in my enterprise I will help you step by step to become successful as I have done before with many people. I've dedicated my life to HELP others in any fashion. It is my motivation to do that. I love what I do. Thank you for taking the time to read this, it is very much appreciated. I've built my reputation on honesty and integrity, it can't be bought for any price.
    2008 Jan 04 12:19 PM | Link |
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    Unlike some of the negative comments found here, I will not malign YTB. Many people have found success withing that organization. I, myself, was with YTB for a short period of time. The only problem I encountered was the initial $500 startup cost which was "off the mark" for many people I approached.

    I have left YTB and I am now a CTA for another company which has a MUCH lower startup cost and a MUCH better compensation package and I very happy I made the move.

    If you are interested in learning more, contact me at myrainbowtravel@gmail.... and I will be glad to refer you to information about this opportunity.
    2008 Jan 07 07:27 AM | Link |
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    Look folks - Why would I join someone whom bashes another company - first all all - get your fact correct about YTB. This company is going places and right now because it is the leader it has a large target on its back. Simple fact is that YTB is going to take some cheap shots.
    Leighton
    http:8Trillion.com

    If you are interested in wanting to work from home, have support and training - call me. My contact information is inside of my web site - we focus on travel bookings and training you to earn a living with a great company - SIMPLE FACT!!!
    2008 Jan 07 11:44 AM | Link |
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    If you call bashing a company by stating the TRUTH then so be it, you can call it anything you please. "Cheap Shots". Excuse me..being banned from Royal Caribbean, IATAN and having ALL the web sites in Rhode Island shut off is hardly what one would call "Cheap Shots". There you go ignoring the TRUTH. The article here tells it all and if it was not TRUE then they would be sued. Companies do not go around banning for the fun of it, they have a good reason for doing such a thing. I think the TRUTH needs to be known www.ytbexposed.com "Reality Check raising the red flag on YTB International was posted here..Is that not the TRUTH????? I know first hand what the TRUTH is and I do not want anyone to be BURNED and if that is as you call it bashing you need a check up from the neck up. After people pay $500.00 so the top leaders can get wealthy and they find out there is no training etc and the fees are inflated I do not think that is good business practices. The Truth Shall Set Your Free. By telling the truth I can save people throwing away their hard earned money and that makes me happy to be able to do that. Besides the average person according to the Direct Selling Association recruits only 2.3 people. You have to have a program easily to dublicate and YTB is not easy at all to duplicate for many especially the average person. I'm not interested in deceiving people and not telling them the truth. Many YTB have no clue what is happening that is a down right shame. Yes, your company is going places, down the drain. It really is funny that the people in my organization never got any support or training in the company you call YtB. We have many many from your company but you do not have one of us in yours..THAT SAYS IT ALL.

    Buyer BEWARE...SAVE YOUR $500.00 AND THE $150. 00 FOR THEM HANDING OUT CARDS WITH NO TRAINING. for more information with never ever any obligation please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... I look forward to answering all of your concerns and questions. People who keep everything secretive is worse than anything else, TO ME IT IS A CRIME.

    2008 Jan 08 06:13 PM | Link |
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    I think Heartprints123 is right. Having done weeks of research and due diligence I decided against YTB and for Traverus Travel instead as they have a lot more going for them. Check it here:
    UnlimitedTravelMoneySe...
    2008 Jan 12 02:00 PM | Link |
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    The "single" one man founder of traver us travel is seldom seen or heard, yet rakes in the profits for "himself" from the uninformed...

    He also uses PAID movie stars to endorse his company which is not even on the charts with those big league companies like YTB, Travelocity, Priceline and Expedia which YTB is often compared with in Reauters and other well known financial institutions. Why do you think YTB was listed as the 11th largest company in bookings and the 35th largest overall in 2006 and now that 2007 is over, it will be listed closer to 20th. This other start up company doesn't even make the bottom of the big league charts.... as listed in Travel Weekly magazine. Check that out... When small start up companies like traver us emulate the same business model blueprint and design of YTB, it is because it works and is working for YTB. All they do is change things slightly to make it look like it was their business model.... Look at the blueprint of the above start up on their site then look at YTB's and you will see it is a nearly crime in how they copied a copyrighted business model. I agree with User 136947. YTB has a bullseye on it because it has impacted the main stream travel companies which see it as a threat to their sales. This always happens when one company goes outside the mainstream way of doing things, creates an entirely new business model and then makes a huge impact on competition. Traver us is doing the same thing in an attempt to makes its mark in the world of travel.... I challenge all those interested in a huge opportunity in Travel to pick up a copy of the January 2008 issue of Success From Home magazine available at Barnes & Noble and other large book stores before they are all gone and read for yourself how huge YTB truly is. I'd like to see this kind of coverage on this startup company or for that matter, any other huge travel company that's even larger than YTB. If you want the opportunity of a lifetime with a company that is truly making huge changes in the Travel industry, don't go with a new startup that is simply emulating a successful company when you can actually be a part of the success that YTB has created and will be here for a long time to come. e-mail me and I will be happy to send you a free DVD and magazine on me. No cost to you.

    Now, because they are having a difficult time in recruiting people, which YTB isn't with over 500 joining every day, the above start up has lowered it's initial startup fee's in desperation of gaining more CTA's. When these CTA's learn that YTB is where this company copied its blueprint from, why join a copycat when they can belong with the leader... It's clear they are desperate but you don't see them changing their blurprint they copied.. This company is still trying to reach 10,000 CTA's. YTB has over 200,000.... Lets compare real numbers....now...

    Here is how the above start up announced how they dropped their startup fees. I wonder what the new CTA's will think when they increase it it back to $500 or even a $1000.

    Denver, Colorado October 15, 2007 -- TraVer us Travel, one of the leading providers (False and misleading, does not even show up on the charts) of travel services and education in the world,???? what??? announced a major promotion (out of desperation) until they reach 10,000 travel agents. A start-up package that (usually costs)? $399.95 (just $50.00 lower than YTB's) is being offered for the lower price point of $169.90 (This is what discount companies do in desperation for attracting more sales and when it doesn't happen, they usually close their doors.) $119.95 activation fee plus first month's maintenance of $49.95. (I love this part, copied from YTB also.) This is a significant value as agents who join the company before they have 10,000 travel agents will be on the fast track to higher commissions and faster promotions through to the executive ranks. (Another desperation attempt) All you CTA's wait till this guy reduces your commissions when things get tough..... It's often referred to in the industry as a "loss leader" to attract additional sales....

    The above company issued the following statement:

    ----------------------...
    Effective Date - 9:00 PM Central Daylight Time - 10/9/2007

    Until - A maximum of 10,000 new enrollees are entered into the
    system.

    To those of you who read the above garbage from Heartprints123.... I caution you to look at who is promoting the company. You hardly ever see the owner, yet you see all kinds of paid endorsements from movie stars....... Is this where you want to pour your hard earned cash???? Ask yourselves... These movie stars did not join this company because of the small commissions they will receive, or the downlines they will create. They are PAID for telling you what you want to hear and what this companies wnats you to beleive. I am not paid to tell you about YTB. See the difference. I don't receive a paid endorsement as they do but heartprints does not tell you that....

    I see a lot of deception and misleading information spewed by this person in an attempt to validate their participation in that starup company.....

    All they did was drop the initial start up fee by $50 less than YTB, but they kept the $49.95 a month web site maintenance fees....

    If you compare one fee to another, one policy, comp plan and training plan, you will clearly see this company has emulated YTB from the start but just altered things slightly.....

    e-mail me at: UPicTravel@aol.com if you want to be with a winner, a worldwide published leader and a company that has truly changed the way it's members do business and are compensated.


    IMHO

    Any person in the world will tell you what you want to hear when they are getting a percentage of the sales and being paid to tell you........
    2008 Jan 13 10:03 AM | Link |
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    Heartprints>>>... Florida has over 30,000 members and California even more...... Show us your documentation that shows YTB has been banned in these states...... put your money where your mouth is.
    2008 Jan 13 10:13 AM | Link |
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    We do not pay John O' Hurley..he looked for 16 years to find the right company and he was the one who chose TraVerus. He works with non profits and he wanted the BEST company to do that with. The celebrities in TraVerus are members of the company just like I am, they do the same as I do, they EARN their money. YTB has been shut down in Rhode Island their web site are no longer available and they are getting refunds from YTB. I think you have had your head in the sand way too long. Read the top of the page here, are you saying that is fake? Read ytbexposed.com You are saying that is not true also. Go to mlmwatchdog.com not true also. I think you need to have a check up from your neck up. Royal Caribbean has banned YTB IATAN has banned YTB Where have you been sleeping it is all over the Internet..tell me you have not heard or read any of them and if you have they are all as you say not True or FAKE? We have thousands of YTB people jumping over to us and YTB does not have one of ours in YTB. You need to do your homework and get the facts straight. The lawyer of YTB was terminated, I have the documentation on it...are you saying that is fake too. I think not. I do not wish you any harm and hope you prosper but YTB keeps its people in the dark, they have no clue what is going on.. Also a company needs an easily program to duplicate for the AVERAGE person or are you just for the elite who can afford to join your program. You were banned because you are a "card mill" . I have so many people in my organization, they came because of very poor business practices in YTB and they had a difficult time because the masses do not have $500.00 to throw away..it hurts their wallet..when they struggle. You can say what you want, do as you please, stay in YTB you are not paying my bills and I do not get paid to write here either. My main purpose was to warn people not to get burned and for the person who does not have the $500.00 entrance fee to not be left out in the cold and could have a fair chance to earn extra income. I've had a man hang up on me because as he told me quote " we do not even talk to anyone unless they have $500.00 to join YTB.

    I do not care what you think you don't tell the truth, and I sleep very well because I do what is right and do not keep anything a big deep dark secret...like a company that does namely YTB. End of story. Best of luck to you, the handwriting is on the wall.

    Buyer beware. I do not need anyone in my business. When you tell the truth and are sincere people sense it. I build my business on honesty, integrity and help as many as want to be helped. I help many I don't earn anything on. It is my pleasure and honor to be able to do that for thou fellow human being..not just words, I say what I mean and mean what I say. In life we have choices thank the Lord. I chose an honest company with a CEO with heart not GREED.
    2008 Jan 13 05:49 PM | Link |
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    upictravel@aol.com You need to get your facts correct. Let's post the documentation you have. WE ARE NOT A START UP COMPANY WE WENT ON DIRECT SALES 14 MONTHS AGO. WE ARE A 26 YR OLD BRICK AND MORTAR HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL ENTERPRISE..WHO YOU KIDDING WITH YOUR LIES. BACK THEM UP. WE ARE NOT LISTED BECAUSE WE CAN STAND ON OUR OWN. DO YOU KNOW OUR CEO PERSONALLY, KNOW WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE STANDS FOR? I DO NOT THINK YOU HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YET YOU COME IN HERE AS A KNOW IT ALL SPREADING YOUR NONSENSE. YOU MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF QUITE FRANKLY. JUST LIKE THE YTB PERSON WHO HUNG UP ON ME WHEN I ASKED A FEW SIMPLE QUESTIONS HE COULD NOT ANSWER TOLD ME HE ONLY DEALS WITH PEOPLE WITH THE $500.00 A VERY RUDE INDIVIDUAL. I WAS VERY POLITE AND WANTED INFORMATION. IS THAT WHO JOINS YTB? I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT.
    2008 Jan 13 05:58 PM | Link |
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    YOU ASKED FOR THE DOCUMENTATION....HERE IT IS.......CHECK THIS OUT FOLKS AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS. ASK YOURSELF, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WILLING TO GIVE YOU $500.00? A COMPANY IS NOT BETTER BECAUSE THEY CHARGE MORE. DUE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND YOU TOO WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF AND MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND..BUT FIRST WATCH THIS. I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTAION YOU'LL EVER NEED FROM EVERYWHERE. JUST CALL AND ASK ME FOR IT..I HAVE SO MUCH THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH ROOM HERE ON THIS SITE.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    I'm not trying to get you into anyone of these companies..that is for you to decide. In order to make a quality decision it has to be what is best for YOU and your family and I do not know that. It has to be based on research. Check out these sites carefully and I have newsprint with warnings about YTB a report from CNN also

    www.mlmlawyer.com/noti...

    This info is all public info listed at mlmlawyer.com
    2008 Jan 13 06:12 PM | Link |
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    Please... oh please....
    Typical American trying to earn some money -Sue and post some info for a handout.... look if you are not doing your job - your fired.. simple
    folks look at our press releases www.Ytbi.com/investor/...
    YTB is a real company with real people - simple fact
    www.8Trillion.com
    2008 Jan 13 07:05 PM | Link |
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    user 136947 Where is your documentation since you know about our company, the CEO and everyone. How did you become so familiar with him? Truth of the matter is you listen to all these people who haven't a clue and do not know what they are talking about. Seems like you are brand new to the industry and trying to make a name for yourself, sorry it won't work. People can tell by the way you are expressing yourself here you do not know too much. The mere fact that you call what I'm saying is garbage shows no respect, no integrity, no intelligence. You are putting yourself down and don't even realize it. It amazes me that you know who gets paid and who doesn't. I happen to know John O ' Hurley personally and NO he does not get paid. Why would it matter to you are you paying his bills. He does not need any money in. He is a fine gentleman and if you accomplish half of what he has in your lifetime you'll be lucky. I think you better stop your banter before you make a total fool out of yourself. You chose YTB and that is wonderful I'm happy for you if it makes you happy. I wish you the best life and YTB have to offer you . The truth shall set you free. In case you need in the future a travel company please don't keep me in mind..Thank You.
    2008 Jan 13 11:43 PM | Link |
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    Attention Everyone trying to sort all this out..

    just click on this link and you'll hear for yourself but from our honest, trustworthy CEO, President and founder a man of integrity.

    www.byoaudio.com/play/...

    Whomever is going to listen to this, make up your own mind as to which company you wish to associate yourself with. The choice is all yours and I wish you well. It is your choice to decide with is right for you. No one can do that for you. To all those in YTB I wish you the best and hope everything turns out well for each and everyone of you. Having said that if you desire more information with no obligation I would be very happy to inform you.
    There is no obligation.

    We have the same great travel deals Royal Caribbean Enchantment of the sea 6 days, including port charges and taxes to Jamaica and Caymen Islands $285.00 (no air) We can give you many more too just like this one.
    2008 Jan 14 01:54 PM | Link |
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    Click on the below links to see your own comparison of YTB and other online marketing travel companies. The comparison speaks for itself!

    www.myttn.net/lp.asp?p...

    ytbexposed.com/
    2008 Jan 16 08:25 PM | Link |
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    We are members of YTB so I will tell you about my experience. A partner and I put on a briefing out of town and another YTB individual asked if he could sit in and listen. To make a long story short he ended up stealing the clients we invited and were recruiting into the business when we left town. This in violation of YTB's ethics and policy. If the company is supposed to be Christian based and family oriented they did not solve this issue in a manner a good christian would have. The ones who benifited were the up line because they were the ones whom stood to make all the money off the recruit which now is doing succesful. The company never stood by us and turned there back on us never willing to do the right thing. This is not the first time. I would have thought because of what I was told about the company that they were honest that they would have been willing to clean up the travel reps that are sneaking around stealing clients and doing things underhanded but they proved me wrong. There are a few other issues that happened that they would do to cover their tracks and protect those in the up lines. I am glad I have real estate to fall back on and not have to worry about YTB as a full time business. I heard a rumor that their IATA classification is in question but do not know. I invite the founder of YTB to sit down and talk to me. I would be more than willing to inform him of issues and to help solve problems that will make the company grow the way it should be honest and like a family. After serving over 22 years in the military serving our country I am more than willing to share knowledge and help the company grow the right way. If anyone would like to here more about my experiences and others in reference to YTB feel free to email me at jamesbeckham@kw.com I will be more than willing to share my knowledge of the company. The founder is also more than welcome to email me to set up an appointment I would be more than happy to sit down and be brutally honesty and to help resolve issues. Thank you all for listening
    2008 Jan 17 12:56 PM | Link |
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    Jim B Real Estate to fall back on you say??? The real estate business is and has been drying up for a long while now. So what is your secret? NO one is buying houses so you must be in commercial real estate? All real estate people and mortgage brokers are flocking to us like flies. They are starving. What qualifies you to resolve issues? How do you propose to do that. Wouldn't you think YTB should have competent lawyers to do that for them??? Inquiring minds want to know. The many that I 've brought into my business from YTB because YTB people are beginning to question us has no clue what is going on with their company. If one is involved in a great company why would they leave is my question. I was listening to a lawyer who handles MLM companies, Jeffrey Babner and he said QUOTE BEWARE OF COMPANIES WHO HAVE LARGE ENTRANCE FEES...So I'm passing his quote on to all of you here.

    On a different note...thank you for your serve to protect our country, that is very admirable and you should be very proud to have served our wonderful country..Thanks from the bottom of my heart..I appreciate your service.
    2008 Jan 17 04:24 PM | Link |
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    Jim B..I invite you to take a good hard look at an honest company with a president with high values and integrity, your choice of course without any obligation. Our President was the host for 17 years of the EAster Seals Foundation, You have to make the choice what is best for YOU and your family. I can be reached at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... or by calling me 508 210 3117. Please get in touch before 1/23/08 as I'm going on a cruise for a week to Jamaica..
    I wish you the best life has to offer you. We as consumers have to make our choices wisely, get all our questions answered and do our due diligence to find an honest company. I found my home and you can too.

    Stay well and hope to hear from you . The best is yet to come.

    2008 Jan 17 05:24 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143 - Truth is I own over 100,000 shares of stock - purchased by my hard earnings - then I joined YTB a year later, did my due diligance and have a strong team and unbelievable support system from YTB, my up-line and my team. I am not here to bash your company - only defend the lies that you and other make up daily about YTB. See as in any companies there are good and bad - you can make false claims and post them on the internet... show us the proof. bogus posts on bogus sites... not enough proof - look at the positive press releases - 35 on Travel weekly power list (where are you?) -www.Ytbi.com/investor/... - lets see your investor site, booking engine, press releases
    8Trillion.com
    Join the Travel Revolution!!!!
    2008 Jan 18 12:22 AM | Link |
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    User 136947 You want proof, ask all the over 600 ytb people who had their web sites shut down and are now getting refunds. I do not spread lies, not my nature. YTB keeps you all in the dark. What about your lawyer suing YTB. I have many YTB people on my team and many have LOST money with the stocks..Also the owner Coach Tomer sold a million dollars worth of shares to buy his dream home and a building. It was your money he used..the stocks are worthless..I'm not bashing just stating the truth. mlmwatchdog.com ytbexposed.com Call Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, they banned you, also IATA banned you. All lies you say..sure you want to get more people in YTB so you say I'm lying..You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people. YTB is in troulbe. It is all over the Internet. Take a look at the top of this page that is a lie alos right? They could be sued if it were. Take you head out of the sand please. I don't want ONE other person to get burned. I do not need them in my business but I care about not telling the truth about your company. The truth is not bashing my friend..Stop deceiving people, good honest people who have lost a huge chunk of change. Please get real here for a change. Buyer beware. What do you tell all of the Rhode Island people who had their web sites shut down????? They no longer can do business with YTB because of it..they are not lying they can't do a thing now. STop the nonsense please. All of these articles written about your company are not lies. GET REAL!
    2008 Jan 18 05:46 PM | Link |
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    USER 136947 THESE ARE ALL LIES YOU SAY??? YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT? EXPLAIN ALL THIS PLEASE.. DO YOU REALLY THINK ALL THESE THINGS WRITTEN HERE ARE LIES..YOU BETTER HAVE A CHECK UP..THE FLU IS GOING AROUND. DO YOU HAVE A HIGH FEVER?

    Ted Lindauer ex in house lawyer going after YTB!

    Chicago Tribune

    IATAN Terminates Relationship with YTB!

    Royal Caribbean Terminates Relationship with YTB!

    Perillo Tours Cuts Off YTB International

    Better Business Bureau, 37 Complaints

    Travel News

    MSNBC Story

    Where is the Ted?

    "The Coach" Founder and Owner sells more stock??

    YTB - Insider Trading

    YTB in Forbes

    Who is Michael Brent EX CEO

    Stock Dump by YTB Owners

    YTBLA.PK

    YTB Changes Compensation Plan!
    $49.95 to get involved!

    YTB - Bill of Rights??

    Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum

    MLM Watch Dog

    World Wide Scam
    eXTReMe Tracker
    2008 Jan 18 05:57 PM | Link |
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    The Flue has nothing to do with any of this... Do you not think than Microsoft, Google, Coke... etc all had problems along the way.... of course they did... it is you who is afraid of he momentum that YTB has and the only way you can try to add to your company is by posting negative statements. As far as Rhode Island goes they are still getting their residual income paid and will be up shortly
    8Trillion.com
    2008 Jan 26 06:37 PM | Link |
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    Attn to my fellow YTB partners. Please do not get caught up in the mud slining of our competition. All of us at YTB know unequivocally YTB is the biggest and the best. We all know in order to make their company look even remotely appealing these yahoos must post misleading jargon. I refuse to engage in this banter with a group involed in a company that is beneath YTB and trying to ride our coatails. If anyone takes what is posted on the World Wide Enquirer as fact without doing their homework, well, I am not interested to have that caliber of a person in my team. For anyone who is interested in joining company rising to the top even with all the misleading information posted by the competition feel free to<b>Contact me Now</b>

    I wish all of you goodfortune in your endeavors
    2008 Jan 30 12:18 PM | Link |
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    I guess it does not accept code.

    Here is my email:
    KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...

    Thanks,
    Kirk
    2008 Jan 30 12:22 PM | Link |
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    kchaffin,
    I totally agree.... notice how many of Heartprints143 links are starting to fail - as most of the info is bogus
    8Trillion.com
    2008 Jan 31 03:57 PM | Link |
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    We have thousands of YTB people joining us daily and you do not have any TraVerus people..that speaks volumes about us. You just can't take it can you YTB members..how sad. Royal Caribbean did ban you and so did IATA try denying it when any one can call them to find out we are stating the truth here. Scroll up to the top of this page and see for yourself. If it were not true they would be sued. YTB go smoke your pipe..and tell it to all those who believe you. The truth shall set you free. You don't believe in truth only deception..straight from the mouths of those thousands who have joined us. We will never be like you..thank the good Lord above for that. Your info is the bogus ones..not ours. You just can't take it can you that we are the far superior company. The cream is rising to the top..you can't beat us if you tried. Who brain washed you??? I have many who told me what goes on in YTB and it is not pretty.

    If you saw our compensation plan you'd run to us also..you can't compare to ours. Most would want to see and learn about their competition but your head is so far in the sad you can't lift it out because if you did..you'd see whe are better. We are also an equal opportunity company who allows the average person to start earning money immediately, can't do taht in YTB admit it already. Many struggle..You are running scared now..Come on over we'll show you the best company. You are a card mill, a joke..and you rob from the innocent by your hype. We do not have to hype anyone. We pay out more commission that you do each and every time. Good luck you'll need it and very soon.

    Anyone wanting the truth..go to mlmwatchdog.com or mlmlegal.com
    2008 Feb 02 10:27 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143... I do not deny the facts. How the folks at Traverus mislead and trick people to join your company is by only slinging mud. Why don't you tell all the readers that Traverus does not have an IATA number and RCCL will not do business with any MLM based travel company! The fact is the industry (IATA, RCCL, etc..) view's our business models (YTB, Traverus, World Ventures etc...) as a card mill. There is no denying this. Just quit misleading the people into thinking Traverus is any different. Fact, all of us (mentioned above) sell online travel. We are not travel agents. To be a "Travel Agent" it takes years of training and very hard work and alot of sales to get that title. Just by going through your (Traverus) ridiculous "CTA course" will not make you a travel agent. I agree with the industry, you must first sell many $$ of travel before you benefit from the perks, namely FAM Trips.

    The fact is, YTB will do $750million in sales for 2007. What did Traverus do? Why all of a sudden did Traverus cease's to be a "Travel Agency" and join Network Marketing as "Referring Travel Business"? To ride the coattails of YTB.

    Traverus, the fact is you can't win people by telling them how good your company is, only by misleading them and slinging mud. Who wants to be a part of that kind of company.

    I have thoroughly reviewed your comp plan. It does not compare. Where in your comp plan do you have the ability to get a $1million cash bonus? YTB gave 6 last year.

    Folks, do your homework before joining Traverus. YTB is still the biggest and the best. For those who jump ship, good luck to you.

    For those interested in joining a company that will go down in history as the greatest Network Marketing company of all time we welcome you.

    Join Team "Time Freedom" Today.

    kirkandtiatravel.com
    208-818-2151

    Listen to what Dr. Bob Seligman PhD has to say:

    ytbreport.com/Investig...

    Dr. Seligman, for years, worked side by side as Billioniare Barry Dillar's financial advisor to his projects in past history. For those who don't know, Barry Dillar purchased Expedia.com about 3 years ago for 5.1 Billion Dollars. Do you think Barry did his homework about the travel industry? Hum, so why did Dr. Bob Seligman decide to join YTB? Listen for yourselves.

    Sorry Traverus, you do not even hold a candle to YTB.
    2008 Feb 03 02:42 PM | Link |
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    To Whom It May Concern,
    I do not need anyone of you here or anywhere in my business unless they have a burning desire to help others and not deceive them or hype them. We make money WITH people not OFF of them, huge difference. When and if you decide to join us you will see the huge difference and that is why people from YTB are joining us in droves. I'm not asking any of you to leave YTB why would I? Don't need any of you. I have already established a huge team with an honest company, easy to sign up people, and many are former YTB people. Why would they leave YTB if it is such a great company????? People begin to understand an honest company with no need to hype people and we are an equal opportunity company where every walk of life can participate..unlike yours. Many do not have $499.95 to invest in your company. Should they be denied? The answer is NO!
    There are many people who can't afford your entrance fee and there is no reason to pay any company such a high fee. I refer you to mlmlegal.com and it simply states DO NOT GO WITH A COMPANY WITH A HIGH ENTRANCE FEE. Why you ask, because 85% of that money goes only to 3% of the top leaders and I'm not and never would be interested in making the top leaders WEALTHY.

    Get the facts and stop saying what you have no clue about. If you do not know what you are talking about, because you have not been exposed to our company then you should not shout out to others only what you think it might be. YOU DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY TIME TO FIND OUT. We do not have to have a web site that is outstandingly beautiful, we have a web site that gets the job done and done well. You even charge $150.00 for credentials and even then you can't obtain Certified Travel Agent credentials...you only have RTA's. ADmit the truth ! Stop leading people astray for the good of the top leaders..START CARING ABOUT PEOPLE INSTEAD OF MONEY $$$$$$$$$$
    2008 Feb 03 02:56 PM | Link |
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    To all those interested, we do indeed have an IATA number and we just came back from a cruise on RCCL (Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines) left from Ft. Lauderdale, FL and went to Jamaica. Talk about slining mud. We are a true travel agency and we train our CTA's very well. YTB does not even offer a postion of CTA. Our compensation plan is the best and we offer a $50,000 written guaranty it is the BEST. Why on earth would anyone jump to TraVerus from other companies if it were not for the fact it is the BEST and oushines any other in the Industry. Check this out...if you do not believe me all public record thebestdiscounttravel..... Folks you will see for yourself who the cream of the crop is.
    We are not asking you to join us, we are informing you of the plain and simple facts. Do your due diligence. It is up to you who you wish to associate yourself with. However, think about how many people you know that has and will part with $599.95 to join a company where they average person struggles. Our average person can make money immediately and does not have to give up their first 6 people to their up line. Face the facts we have thousands who have left YTB to join us..but no one in TraVerus has joined YTB. If that doesn't tell you anything nothing will.
    2008 Feb 08 09:47 AM | Link |
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    Forgive me for the type O's in the last post it is $499.95 to join YTB sorry for that..I do apologize. I can assure you I do not mean to mislead any of you. I wish you much success in whatever you decide. I'm just laying the honest facts on the table in order for you to make the BEST decision for you and your family, nothing more. I'm not here to convince anyone, I don't need to. We have the BEST comp. plan and that is the truth and if you'd like to find out for yourself be glad to share it with you. I'm not looking for anyone to jump over to TraVerus..I just want you to know the honest truth. How come YTB does not have any TraVerus people who have jumped over to you. We pay our more commission than you do and if you did your due dilligence it is not hard to see we do. Let me say this, it is not by any means a better company because thye charge more. They charge more so that the people at the top are kept wealthy while the rest struggle. How do I know this, I have many from YTB in my organization and you are welcome to talk with them. They did very well in YTB but they could not live with the fact that the people in their organization struggled. When they saw what we offer they joined us. I will be glad and happy for you to speak with them if you would like to do just that. I like the fact we are for the average person who never made any money in any other company are now making great money in TraVErus. You can say what you want but stop the nonsense please. That gives the whole industry a bad taste in their mouth. Let's start being honest here for a change.
    2008 Feb 08 09:57 AM | Link |
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    First off, anyone who joins YTB is asked to be honest in there life, we do not want anyone in YTB that is going to lie or give false information about there business, we are trying to be a completely legitimate company with good ethics, if this is you then your in the right place to earn a lot of money and save loads on your taxes

    For more information you can watch my teams video at theharvestisplenty.com Step 3

    or company presentation at thebestwayintravel.com

    any questions or concerns please feel free to email me at thebestwayintravel@gma...
    2008 Feb 08 11:49 AM | Link |
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    Bryce, Please explain the fact that YTB has lost its IATA number?
    Also why so many are leaving YTB? Explain why all the negativity exists about YTB. Explain this at www.thebestdiscounttra... that VERY FEW reach the top in YTB that only a few make it? TraVerus has thousands from YTB that saw that we have the BEST compensation and they jumped over to us. Why would they do that if YTB is such a great company. Many are kept in the dark in YTB and do not know what is going on. With a lot of hype you get them to join and then they find there is no help, very little training if any at all. What about ytbexposed.com At the very least scroll up to the top of this page and see for yourself, why was this written if it is not the TRUTH? Your company is not easy for the average person to duplicate. We are an equal opportunity company for all. Ever take into consideration that not every one has $500 to join your company? Also please explain why Attorney Jeff Babner lawyer for MLM says in his video to stay away from any company who charges large fees to become a member. Also one of the icons in MLM Mark Yarnell says to stay clear away from companies llisted on the stock exchange? I think he knows and Jeff Babner knows far more than all of us here. Take notice people, no company is worth high entrance fees, it is not a better company because they charge more to become a member. 85% only goes to 3% of the people at the TOP. Our compensation plan leads in the field hands down. Care to take a look? Contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... leave your name and phone number and I'll be more than happy to show you the differences and how you too can earn immediately without having to give your first 6 people to your upline. The facts do not lie, the numbers tell it all.

    Best of luck to all of you no matter which company you decide on, it is your choice and only you know what is best for YOU and your family. Remember not everyone can come up with $500 and should they be denied earning extra income? Remember too how easy will it be for you to find those who have this kind of money..Remember to take your test is $150.00 and then you do not have an IATA number or can book a cruise on Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and the many others who banned YTB. Numbers do not lie.
    2008 Feb 09 11:16 AM | Link |
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    ABOUT US Traverus Travel is one of the leading providers of travel services and education in the world. With our International online travel radio show - Traverus Celebrity Travel Talk - and our leading edge travel portal, Traverus Travel is changing the future of travel.

    Traverus Travel has a worldwide network of Independent Travel Agents. We work with licensed bonded certified travel agencies approved by International Airlines Travel Agent Network (IATAN) and Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA), and endorsed by the world's major airlines and travel suppliers.

    By becoming an Associate of Traverus Travel you will be able to book travel for yourself, while enjoying discounts on special Associate trips and vacation packages. By enrolling as an Agent, you get many more additional benefits and education tools.

    Through our tools, educational services, and online booking engines, our Agents can learn how to become Independent Home-based Travel Agents who can book travel for friends, business associates and themselves.
    This allows them to earn huge commissions on travel while they are learning how to prosper as a Home-based Travel Agent. In addition, we provide links to most of the online consolidator's for air, hotel, and rental cars for your convenience in booking these items.

    Our Independent Travel Agents benefit from our exclusive relationships with preferred suppliers, which allows even better savings and discounts from regularly priced premiums. In addition, our agents earn a percentage of any trips they create and have the ability to market them through our Travel Portal and Online Radio Show! www.traverus.biz and www.traverus.net
    More information available by contacting Heartprints143@yahoo.c... with your name, phone number and email address. Thanks for your time and look forward to hearing from you.
    Make this the first day of the rest of your financially FREE life with TIME to enjoy your life and eventually not have to work 9-5 at a job. See you at the top..and remember we make money with youi not OFF of you. Cheers
    2008 Feb 09 03:57 PM | Link |
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    Say Heartprints143 - show us the numbers of people leaving YTB - you do not have a clue or are privy to that information. You make claims from facts you dream up or are told by your up-line and management- Please show us your financial statements or SEC Filings as we show you ours - go to investor tab at www.AllenbyTravel.com
    Did you make Travel Weekly top 100 travel agencies (we did) - again see our press releases. Why would anyone want to go join under anyone that has to sling mud to sell Travel Stores. YTB is a great company and is as good as its people it has working for the company.. the same goes for your company.... do your company some justice and build it on its positive facts.... Build your empire on honest facts... take that from someone whom has been in business for 39 years and has financial success.....For those that want to work with an honest person that believes YTB has the best in the industry working for them, has the best company support, best training and a competitive product contact me for more information....
    www.8Trillion.com
    Join the Travel Revolution!
    2008 Feb 10 02:21 PM | Link |
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    New press release - from www.AllenbyTravel.com - click on investor tab for more of these

    YTB International, Inc. Enjoys Record Growth for Reps and RTAs in 2007
    Record Commissions Also Set For Field Team

    WOOD RIVER, Ill., Feb, 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- YTB International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: YTBLA) ('YTB' or the 'Company'), a leading international provider of Internet-based travel websites and home-based independent representatives, today announced that it ended 2007 with more than 130,000 RTAs, compared to 8,870 in the first quarter of 2005. The Company paid its Reps and RTAs more than $65 million in combined marketing and travel commissions through the third quarter of 2007. This figure represents more than the totals of the past three years combined.

    'Since the inception of this company, we have had the vision of supporting our field with outstanding support and travel products. We knew that if we adhered to those core principles, growth for the Company and success for our field would soon follow,' said Lloyd 'Coach' Tomer, Chairman and Founder, YTB International. 'We know that the heart and soul of our Company is our RTAs/Reps, which is why it thrills me to be able to pay out millions of dollars in commissions to the people who make YTB thrive.'

    Now doing business in the Bahamas, Canada, and Bermuda, the Company expects the RTA base to grow even more dramatically in 2008. That will be a significant accomplishment, since YTB more than doubled the size of its RTA team from 60,000 at the beginning of 2007. Accordingly, the commissions paid in that timeframe also doubled.

    'Thanks to the hard work of our field team, we also saw our first two profitable quarters in the history of the Company last year,' continued Mr. Tomer. 'It is amazing to me to look at the path of our revenue grow from just over $3.5 million for the 1st quarter of 2005, to almost $40 million in the third quarter of 2007. And we know this is just the tip of the iceberg.'

    About YTB International

    Recognized as the 35th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in 2006 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for travel agencies and home-based independent representatives in the United States, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Canada, Bermuda, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

    It operates through three subsidiaries: YourTravelBiz.com, Inc., YTB Travel Network, Inc., and REZconnect Technologies, Inc. YourTravelBiz.com division focuses on marketing online travel agencies through a nationwide network of independent business people, known as 'Reps.' YTB Travel Network division establishes and maintains travel vendor relationships, books travel transactions of online travel agents and affiliates, collects travel commissions and pays sales commissions. Each RTA sells travel through a personalized Internet-based travel website. The REZconnect Technologies division operates as a travel vendor relationship management company and offers franchises of brick and mortar travel agencies. For more information, visit www.ytbi.com/investor.

    Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are 'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.

    SOURCE YTB International, Inc.


    Source: PR Newswire (February 8, 2008 - 4:47 PM EST)

    News by QuoteMedia
    quotemedia.com

    Posted by:
    www.8trillion.com
    join the Travel Revolution
    2008 Feb 10 02:24 PM | Link |
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    No one explains why you were banned from Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and your IATA number was taken away from you. I know the facts from the people who left YTB. They had a power team also and left. Why is all the negativity on the Internet about YTB including the article at the top of this web site. I think you ought to get your facts straight for a change. You are a hype company, guaranting all kinds of enormous amounts of money to be made. The public records do not lie. Anyone can pay people to write in any magaizine to promote YTB. The people who have left YTB are proof positive. The left for very good reasons and the fact YTB has been shut down in Rhode Island says it all. Why would the attourney general in Rhode Island shut YTB down? I'm quite sure they had a very good reason. They do not do it for the fun of it.
    All news companies have been known to not report the truth it is public knowledge, those who pay them off should be ashamed of themselves. Stay with YTB and enjoy yourself. I don't need or want any of you in my business unless you want to see what we have to offer. We pay out more commission for one than you do, a known fact. Best of luck to each and every one of you who are in YTB I wish you all the best. When one deals with masses of the average person out there that does not have or will not part with $499.95 there is where it lies. We are for the average who never made money in any other company there are making good money with our company and do not have to give up their first 6 to their upline. I'm a leader, motivatioinal speaker and trainer. I do not rely on what my up line does or tells me, I know the facts and the facts and numbers do not lie..You do the match. If you are not a part of our company you do not know what is going on...only what someone tells you and it is not the truth. I know how many have left YTB. I have the proof too.
    2008 Feb 10 09:39 PM | Link |
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    there are a few of you that keep clouding the factsfor the rest of us trying to do our due diligence. i feel those few of you are f.o.m., so please get out of our way so we can make an informed decision.
    2008 Feb 12 08:26 PM | Link |
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    In order to make an informed quality decision what is best for you and you family, you need to get the truth and all the facts with someone with honesty and integrity. An individual or individuals that are equipped to answer all your questions, concerns and show you the presentation. I hope you are not making your decision on what you are reading here.

    If you need further assistance I'd be more than happy to do that for you. There is no obligation. Only you know what is best for you, I don't know. We do not hype you, we let you make up your own mind. I'd prefer to communicate by email or phone. Email me your phone number and I'll call you if that is what would be best for you.

    Whatever you decide I wish you the best of success and happiness.
    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    2008 Feb 16 08:23 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143
    It is people like you that create the negativity about YTB - YTB paid out more in Travel commissions and Marketing commissions in 2007 to its RTA's & Reps than your company made in 2007.
    Again - look at the press Releases
    biz.yahoo.com/prnews/0...
    www.Ytbi.com/investor/...

    OH - and what about the 3,500 non-profits using our web site

    The National Foundation for Cancer Research (NFCR)
    www.travelindustrywire...

    Do you think these companies were hyped into joining YTB?

    We do not make these press releases up - the facts speak

    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com
    2008 Feb 17 09:48 PM | Link |
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    another press release to back up growth & money paid back to YTB agents...... notice I mentioned GROWTH>>>
    Record Commissions Also Set For Field Team

    WOOD RIVER, Ill., Feb, 8 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- YTB International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: YTBLA) ('YTB' or the 'Company'), a leading international provider of Internet-based travel websites and home-based independent representatives, today announced that it ended 2007 with more than 130,000 RTAs, compared to 8,870 in the first quarter of 2005. The Company paid its Reps and RTAs more than $65 million in combined marketing and travel commissions through the third quarter of 2007. This figure represents more than the totals of the past three years combined.

    "Since the inception of this company, we have had the vision of supporting our field with outstanding support and travel products. We knew that if we adhered to those core principles, growth for the Company and success for our field would soon follow," said Lloyd 'Coach' Tomer, Chairman and Founder, YTB International. "We know that the heart and soul of our Company is our RTAs/Reps, which is why it thrills me to be able to pay out millions of dollars in commissions to the people who make YTB thrive."

    Now doing business in the Bahamas, Canada, and Bermuda, the Company expects the RTA base to grow even more dramatically in 2008. That will be a significant accomplishment, since YTB more than doubled the size of its RTA team from 60,000 at the beginning of 2007. Accordingly, the commissions paid in that timeframe also doubled.

    "Thanks to the hard work of our field team, we also saw our first two profitable quarters in the history of the Company last year,"continued Mr. Tomer. "It is amazing to me to look at the path of our revenue grow from just over $3.5 million for the 1st quarter of 2005, to almost $40 million in the third quarter of 2007. And we know this is just the tip of the iceberg."

    About YTB International

    Recognized as the 35th largest seller of travel in the U.S. in 2006 by Travel Weekly, YTB International, Inc. provides Internet-based travel booking services for home-based independent representatives in the United States, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Canada, Bermuda, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.

    It operates through three subsidiaries: YourTravelBiz.com, Inc., YTB Travel Network, Inc., and REZconnect Technologies, Inc. YourTravelBiz.com division focuses on marketing online travel agencies through a nationwide network of independent business people, known as 'Reps.' YTB Travel Network division establishes and maintains travel vendor relationships, books travel transactions of online travel agents and affiliates, collects travel commissions and pays sales commissions. Each RTA sells travel through a personalized Internet-based travel website. The REZconnect Technologies division operates as a travel vendor relationship management company and offers franchises of brick and mortar travel agencies. For more information, visit www.ytbi.com/investor.

    Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are 'forward-looking statements' within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.

    Investor Contact:
    Garth Russell / Yemi Rose
    KCSA Worldwide for YTB International, Inc.
    Phone: 212.896.1250 / 212.896.1233

    SOURCE YTB International, Inc.

    Best to All
    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com
    www.8Trillion.com
    2008 Feb 18 07:36 AM | Link |
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    Any one of you who are doing your due diligence are welcome to talk with the thousands who left YTB including a Pator. I can put anyone looking at both companies in touch with the many who left YTB. No, I'm not making any of this up because I believe in honesty. I also believe in equality for all. Bottom line is this, one has to join a copmany easy to duplicate. I know for a fact because I have many many in my organization from YTB. We do not keep things in the dark. How many we have from YTB that has no clue what is gong on with your company. As I have said many times here, Royal Caribbean does not just go around and ban people for the fun of it. YTB has no IATA number. Anyone can pay for press releases as a matter of fact I know someone who does them all the time he gets paid quite a bit too. I had quite a conversation with him. Why was YTB shut down in Rhode Island. As you know no one here will explain why. Go ask the Attorney General in Rhode Island why YTB was shut down there. In Canada you have to call yourself an affiliate not a RTA. Interesting. Did you also know to get into Canada before they asked you to have a USA address? Are you saying all the negativity about YTB including the top of this page is just made up by someone just for the fun of it? There is some swampland for sale in Florida if you are interested too. The stocks are worth 99 cents. Explain if you will why you can't become a Certified Travel Agent in YTB only RTA's referral travel agents? The cream always rises to the top and the cream of the crop is a company called TraVerus Travel, ask those who left YTB and you'll hear first hand why they left. YTB does not have any TraVerus people and they won't get any either.
    I won't convince anyone, get the facts and then you decide.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Contact me and I'll put you in contact with many YTB people, not just a few. There is never any obligation to join us, just get the information and you'll see. Compare and you'll understand why many have left and are leaving in droves. I can prove it too.
    2008 Feb 20 03:04 AM | Link |
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    Heartprints143 - what is a Pator? oh.... Pastor -- people change brands on a daily basis - did you discover something new??????

    People have left your company to join YTB as well... big deal...
    In Canada - their government requests that an RTA be called a Referring Travel Affiliate - so what's the fuss. We abide by their goverment rules.

    Again why do you try to build your team by posting the negativity about YTB - all companies during their growth will have some problems.

    We refer to your type as mud slingers - lets see your company financial statements, how much you paid back in travel and marketing commissions to your field people, see your press releases.... see your corporate structure backbone....

    Time will tell - see people are not leaving YTB and joining your company as you claim... hum... call you to listen to the ones that have left..... please spare me the humor...
    Are you hiring actors to act like disgruntled YTB'ers like you do to promote your company... funny!!!!!!!!!

    Folks - YTB has a product - Travel and more
    visit AllenbyFamilyTravel.co... - our booking engine to compare
    and do check out the 450 under $250 for roundtrip air and two nights hotel. Two fly Free program, hunting & fishing site, flowers, sporting event & concert tickets, new cars and yes TRAVEL! Our partners - Hotels.com, Hotratehotels, Travolocity, Spring Tours, Patheo international Flight consolidator and many more


    All our company information - Stock, SEC filings, Board of Directors, etc is on our marketing site - nothing is hidden
    www.AllenbyTravel.com

    See - the SEC - Securities Exchange Commission - www.Ytbi.com/investor/ - has done your due diligence for you - our company gets checked out by them on a regular basis as we are publicly traded and the stock has done a three for one split... folks YTB will be the Microsoft of Travel.

    Why do 3,500 non-profits use our program? - because we have a product and program that works.

    Best to all whom are following this and see you on the beaches and mountains of the World
    TravelThe World
    www.8Trillion.com
    2008 Feb 20 08:13 AM | Link |
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    We pay out much more in commission then you do for one. I do not and have not called YTB any names like you continually do. I simply state the TRUE facts. I have those that left YTB on my team, what on earth are you talking about? What are you drinking? The average person can't make it in your company. How do I know, they are making money in Traverus Travel and much more in commissions. I don't make these facts up as you do. If you saw our pay plan and understood it you too would leave your company as many others have. Would you like to speak to former YTB people? I can arrange it at any time just let me know and I'll let you talk to them..I do not have a problem with it. We make money with people not off them. I have news for you, a company that has been banned by Royal Caribbean and had their IATA credentials taken away will NEVER by the MICRO SOFT of Travel, mark my words here, you are only dreaming and hoping. Please spare me. How about the truth for a change. We do not hire anyone they join because they realize what we have and that we are a company of Integrity that is why they join and that is why we have thousands from YTB joining in droves. Yes, it is true, I can prove it too.
    2008 Feb 21 06:55 PM | Link |
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    Monday, February 18, 2008
    Traverus Really Works!

    Traverus Retired me
    In less than 1 year!

    Traverus is a real Travel Agency Opportunity. Up until Feb 18, 2008 I have worked for Corporate America as a Manager for over 20 Years. Because of Traverus I have now Officially Retired in less than 1 Year working with Traverus.
    This Compensation is Amazing! This is a Company where the Average person with little experience can Win in Network Marketing. I have retired and my business partner who is of 27 years of Age has Retired. I want to have more testimonies of people I have helped Retire with Traverus.

    Now I can fulfill my dream of Ministry as a Full Time Pastor. I can now help people not only Spiritually but Financially as well. I am So Excited Today. It felt so good to send out this email from work.

    Subject: Retirement Announcement!
    To: Email Contacts
    From: Marcus B
    Feb 18th,2008

    Effective February 18, 2008 I Marcus B am Retiring from Wells Fargo Bank.


    May God Continue to Bless you
    Marcus B

    If you would like to learn how you too can earn with TraVerus and retire early and wealthy, please contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... or call me and I can put you in touch with Pastor Brewer which I had the honor of meeting on our Cruise to Jamaica in January 2008 ($285.00 inc. port charges and taxes. You will be able to hear him first hand how he did it.



    CTA Regional Director
    508 210 3117

    2008 Feb 21 07:02 PM | Link |
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    This is why you should join YTB

    Investigate YTB with Dr. Bob Seligman, PhD
    allenbytravel.vacation...

    Best to All
    Leighton
    www.8Trillion.com


    2008 Feb 22 08:08 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143 Remember this ...A rising tide lifts all ships. This industry NWM has enough nay Sayers. Do we have to be the cause of our own demise?

    Now to answer the question as to why YTB no longer has the IATA number understand that IATA is a association that's all. The are simply a union of Travel agents. Not a government agency.

    The Travel Agents ( TA's for now on ) understand that how people book travel is changing no longer dominated by traditional means.

    With the trend shift many of their lives have been changed never to go back to the way it was. YTB with over 135k people doing just a little each is speeding up that trend.
    With that many people your bound to have growing pains not to mention a lot of new people who make mistakes.. ( Just like with any new job )
    So with that said there has been a few incidents which the TA saw as their chance to slow down the success of a growing company.

    They then contacted their MEMBERS IN THE IATA and complained. Which didn't want to lose the membership fees of the TA and to appease them they dropped YTB. YTB is putting in Rules to make sure that the NEW RTA's are trained also FYI YTB has perching power now which means they can negotiate with the travel industry directly so in the future YTB wont need IATA at all.

    Next why RC dropped YTB again growing pains because of a few new people doing what new people do in anything marriage, job, kids mistakes were made. Someone at RC who doesn't understand NWM flew off and said that the whole company is a C. Mill because of a few people. Not even thinking about how much YTB booked with them that year or how the company has won there biggest competitions award for excellence 3 years in a row. YTB still has over 10 cruse lines that still welcome and love their business.Now word has it that RC is trying to work a new deal but YTB is not in a rush.
    Now please get the facts that's all we ask. There is plenty of people out here for all of us 7 trillion is a lot of money and by 2012 it will be 12 to 14 trillion lets change the world TOGETHER ;- )














































































    2008 Feb 22 09:30 PM | Link |
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    Whatever you say. I know the truth. You still have not told me about Rhode Island being shut down by the Atty. General.
    Also do you know that without an IATA number you can't book travel? Also Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines and IATA would not ban you for simply for growing pains, you know it and I know it and so do a lot of other people know it. The numbers do not lie, people do. I think you can come up with something better than that explanation. However that being said I thank you for at least beilng polite about it. I admire you for that at least. What about all the other negativity about YTB on theh net? You see I have many from YTB on my team so I do know the truth. You seem to side step many facts here. I feel good about we are an equal opportunity for all and that the average person can make a nice check immediately without having to give up their first 6 people before they make any real money. The ones at the top reap all the benefits while the others are struggling. It is a known fact. So thank you for being nice...it shows and tells me a lot about you RTA 4 NWM and it is admirable. If you saw what we have you'd jump ship too guaranteed as so many others have from YTB. Bless you and your team and I wish you success in life and business. I do not wish any YTB people any harm. However if you look at the original post here, that is what started all of this and it is the truth. So let's please not forget that. The stock right now is worthless.

    For all of you who wish to take a look at us without any obligation at all just information I'd be happy to show it to you.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Put Alpha in the subject line please.
    2008 Feb 22 11:44 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143.

    The issue with the Rhode Island has to do with their state rules just like with the lotto, it's not legal in every state based on the legislation.

    Next you are showing your experience or lack when you say you must have a IATA in order to book travel.
    Please simply type in IATA CARD into GOOGLE. It will give you the goods on whats going on with having that card.

    Next the 6 people that I " Had to give away " My sponsor works with them and I get a 50% match on every dollar they make . If that's being used PLEASE USE ME!!!

    Heartprints143 lets be honest every company has people who makes more than others even MICROSOFT. But unlike corp. america you can find as many people who want to be successful as I can. I am sure some people have left your company and gone to another.

    CHRISTIANITY has people who leave. That doesn't mean it's bad. Type in " Christianity scam " I am sure it will surprise you, just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true.

    LASTLY OUR STOCK! Find out why we have split 3 times. and why we have A and B shares. When you do your home work then you will know why wallstreet doesn't like our stock. Here is a hint A share are for sale B shares are not.

    About your company! I am sure it's a great company that people can earn lots of money. Keep up the great work and I am sure you will succeed.

    From one NETWORKER TO ANOTHER...If you want people to come to you keep it postive! I have learned that you can catch more flys with honey than you can with vinegar.
    2008 Feb 23 08:21 PM | Link |
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    Well said RTA 4 NWM - We can still book travel without the IATA / IATAN & RCCL -

    We have very strong relationships with the other leading cruise lines, such as Carnival, Princess, Holland America, NCL, etc. Of course we regret RCCL’s decision, but it appears to be unfounded and unjust. We continue to do business and continue to sell travel. We will have sold over 80,000 cruise packages this year and that number continues to rise.



    Our status with IATAN has nothing to do with our “accreditation” as a travel agent. Having IATAN status does not legitimize YTB. It did offer an additional avenue for resources and supplier contacts, but it does not effect our affiliation with ARC and CLIA.



    Some info about IATAN, IATA, and ARC.



    Each of these paragraphs were taken directly from ARC and IATAN ‘s descriptions of themselves as well as IATA’s.



    IATA

    Air transport is one of the most dynamic industries in the world. The International Air Transport Association (IATA) is its global trade organization.

    Over 60 years, IATA has developed the commercial standards that built a global industry. Today, IATA’s mission is to represent, lead and serve the airline industry. Its members comprise over 240 airlines - the world’s leading passenger and cargo airlines among them - representing 94 percent of scheduled international air traffic.

    Representing…

    IATA seeks to improve understanding of the industry among decision makers and increase awareness of the benefits that aviation brings to national and global economies. It fights for the interests of airlines across the globe, challenging unreasonable rules and charges, holding regulators and governments to account, and striving for sensible regulation.



    IATAN

    Through the use of its informational and other resources, IATAN provides a vital link between the supplier community and the U.S. travel distribution network. As an IATAN accredited travel agency, you now have full access to all of our products and services. These include Personnel Registration, IATAN Travel Agent ID Card, Personnel Verification as well as educational programs.



    ARC

    ARC services the Travel industry as a financial clearinghouse, information hub and meeting place for business relationships among Carriers, Travel Agents, Corporate Travel Departments, Industry Suppliers and others. It also provides a means of communication between its participants and important third parties, including industry associations, news media and government agencies. No matter what your role in today's Travel industry, ARC can offer you greater efficiency, visibility and impact.

    ARC participants — from start-up Travel Agencies through global Carriers — benefit from the integrity, innovation, cost-effectiveness and excellence built into every ARC product and service.

    ARC-accredited Travel Agencies are premium professional Travel organizations.

    Having met the rigorous financial, personnel and ticket-security requirements and successfully completed stringent training and specialist testing, ARC-accredited Agencies demonstrate a commitment to the health and growth of their businesses and to the Travel industry as a whole.

    Across the United States, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, Agencies of every size, from single locations to multinational operations, depend on ARC to deliver reliable solutions to help them improve their business practices and better serve their customers.



    www.mlmlawyer.com/ - new post re:Ted Lindauer

    ANNOUNCEMENT


    Over the past week Coach Tomer and I have taken the opportunity to communicate openly and frankly about our past friendship and about the future of YTB. We are in agreement as to what must be done to make YTB become what we and others originally intended when YTB began in 2001, that YTB be the biggest and best network marketing company ever and the largest travel company ever. We found that our friendship of over 20 years was still strong, our thinking very much alike as before and our vision of YTB’s future as it was before, strong and boundless in scope.

    Coach and I have decided to work together to continue building YTB together. We have renewed our collaboration to build YTB. There is much to do. My concerns have been addressed and I am satisfied that everything which must be done is being done and done well. Coach and I have resolved to communicate with each other more often and more effectively in the future and, especially on my part, to be patient as the coordination of the many aspects necessary to continue YTB’s growth and success are put in place.

    Ted Lindauer

    Best to all
    TravelTheWorld
    www.8Trillion.com
    2008 Feb 23 11:07 PM | Link |
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    Anyone can be paid off even a lawyer. This tells me nothing. First Ted Lindauer was going to sue YTB and now they are the best of friends again, wonder what that must have taken out of Coach's pockets, both pockets. Who are you trying to kid here now. It all sounds great until the investigation begins. You must think that we are not intelligent to figure this whole thing out. Money sure does talk. Just search the Internet and you will see this is the biggest joke, all negativity about YTB and it is all not true. We are not that naive.

    WARNING do your due diligence FIRST before you jump into shallow water. This is such a joke about Ted Lindauer and YTB. How come the stocks are worthless? When you see what we offer there is really no comparison.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    2008 Feb 24 11:16 AM | Link |
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    Let's not forget this for one moment people. This was all made up right? You must be drinking or smoking something.

    Ted Lindauer ex in house lawyer going after YTB!

    Chicago Tribune

    IATAN Terminates Relationship with YTB!

    Royal Caribbean Terminates Relationship with YTB!

    Perillo Tours Cuts Off YTB International

    Better Business Bureau, 37 Complaints

    Travel News

    MSNBC Story

    Where is the Ted?

    "The Coach" Founder and Owner sells more stock??

    YTB - Insider Trading

    YTB in Forbes

    Who is Michael Brent EX CEO

    Stock Dump by YTB Owners

    YTBLA.PK

    YTB Changes Compensation Plan!
    $49.95 to get involved!

    YTB - Bill of Rights??

    Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum

    MLM Watch Dog

    World Wide Scam
    eXTReMe Tracker
    2008 Feb 24 11:22 AM | Link |
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    -The stock did a three for one split - so my dollar purchase is now worth $3.00
    -The negativity is mostly for you travel club - see our is a legit corporate publicly traded company -
    -It is you whom is misinformed - perhaps you should attend one of our Red Carpet Days or CRTA Trainings
    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com

    2008 Feb 24 05:19 PM | Link |
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    Anyone truly interested in YTB should see this blog, which gives you the truths about MLM and YTB, not what they are feeding you. With proof that they are not telling you the whole truth

    notravelmlms.blogspot..../
    2008 Feb 25 11:16 AM | Link |
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    I would watch pushing the Dr. Bob issue. The doctor is not who he claims to be. Nobody can find any "truthful" info on this guy...is he a figment of imaginition..can someone find a contact so we can check?

    Seligman claims he is a guest lecturer at Harvard, Wharton, and Stanford. My Harvard source is unable to locate the name anywhere associated with Harvard. A search of Wharton's site turned up nothing as did Stanford. Hmmm.
    Seligman said that he was knowledgeable of business practices because he is "a financial columnist" and "a published author". Well, guess what? Not much is coming up on that front either.

    Seligman also referenced General Electric and "his friend" "Jack Walsh". Well if he is referring to the former CEO of GE, it is Jack Welch. Now maybe his friend "Jack Walsh" is the guy that sweeps the floors in Fairfield.
    Seligman stated that Harvard Business School said YTB was "the business opportunity of a lifetime." Again, no real substantiation there. Looking at their website, there are few references to "MLM" or "Network Marketing" and certainly none to YTB. I have also been told (unsubstantiated) that Harvard Business School has derided MLM as an invalid business practice.

    Seligman says that he suspects that Coach, Scott and Kim are "smarter" than Barry Diller and have "outsmarted" him in travel because Barry Diller spent $5B for Expedia, but YTB offers the "same thing" for $500. He claims that YTB is "better" and "provably better" than Expedia. Uhm, OK. As my daughter might say, "whatever."

    Seligman claims that the average adult in the US spends an average of 6.5 hours watching television and 2 hours a day on the computer outside of work. His pitch was to cut an hour off of the television and concentrate on YTB and you can make 100X your investment. That "statistic" although he says is provable, this seems very excessive to me.
    Seligman, in his closing statement, said that Bill Gates is worth $50 Billion dollars and explains that it is "9 zeros folks". Uhm, maybe it was just a mispeak, but it is 10 zeros. One would think that the closing point in a presentation by a financial guru would not make that error!
    A lot of people will say so what? Well, I think this is an issue. Regardless of who originated the Doctor, his credentials cannot be substantiated at all. These same credentials are being used by numerous Reps as they try to recruit people into the YTB program. Without knowing that the credentials are bogus, people will take him at face value. Anyone who may make a decision to join YTB based on this is being duped into the program. I am not sure, but if an RTA wanted to press the issue, I would bet some Rep might be on the look for this. What is more reprehensible is that YTB, by their silence, is endorsing this type of "marketing". GO ahead and tell them anything you like as long as you sign them up.
    2008 Feb 25 11:33 AM | Link |
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    People if YTB was so bad then you would'nt care but you do care. Why? To save all of the poor people and to turn them to your safe company. Your company is perfect I am sure. Everyone who comes stays & all of them make money. Their all at the top and no one is at the bottom. Unlike Walmart, or Microsoft your company has no complants.
    2008 Feb 25 11:03 PM | Link |
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    Everyone who comes to YTB stays, you are kidding AGAIN, because my organization has so many YTB people it is not even funny. PEOPLE WHO HAD A POWER TEAM, YES THAT IS RIGHT A POWER TEAM. I'LL LET ANYONE OF YOU TALK WITH THEM. I DARE any one of you to see our presentation you will also leave and come over to us, YOU'LL RUN GUARANTEED GUARANTEED to us. I DARE ALL OF YOU TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE COMPARED TO ONLY WHAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE AND SAY YOU HAVE, we are the ones who have it. NOTHING WILL COMPARE AND YOU'LL SEE FOR YOURSELF. ANY INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD WANT TO SEE WHAT THEIR COMPETITION HAS. YOU ARE ALL SO CLOSED MINDED YOU DO NOT DARE TO DO IT. YOU ARE AFRAID YOU'LL LOVE WHAT WE HAVE. WE DO NOT HAVE A $50,000 WRITTEN GUARANTY FOR THE FUN OF IT. IN ONE YEAR NO ONE HAS COME FORWARD TO CLAIM THE MONEY, WHY??????? YOU'VE SEEN THE REST NOW COME AND SEE THE BEST. YES, WE DO HAVE THE BEST. RHODE ISLAND IS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THE PRACTICES YOU HAVE AND THEY WILL NOT PUT UP WITH..THAT IS WHY. WAKE UP YTB AND SEE WHAT YOU COULD HAVE NOT WHAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE. WE HAVE IT.
    YTB HAS NO CERTIFIED TRAVEL AGENT POSITION, WE DO
    I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST BUT SEE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE BEST. THE TOP LEADERS ARE MAKING ALL THE MONEY AND THE OTHERS ARE STRUGGLING. AMEN
    2008 Feb 25 11:26 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143

    Do you even read the other persons responds? Do you even know what SATIRE means? My last question....HOW OLD ARE YOU 12, 13? Take a deep breath go back & read my last post.....
    2008 Feb 27 01:54 AM | Link |
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    P.S. I looked up your company on GOGGLE then went to the top of the page and clicked on NEWS you company has 7 list. If your company is so amazing why is there only 7 articals? Please Help me with why there is no press on your copany under NEWS? I checked YTB and there was over 2000. 99% of it positve.
    2008 Feb 27 02:09 AM | Link |
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    Say Heartprints143..
    Did you know those bogs were created to generate leads for their opportunity - seems they bash all good companies as they know that they will show up at the top of the search engines. Say let me know when you are going to be in my neck of the woods so we can meet and discuss why YTB has the best comp plan - see ours is right on the we site - not buried, and we have no up -charges like your company.
    RTA 4 NWM - you are right about all the 99% positive news - the other 15 negative is caused by the competition because we have grown and will continue to grow. Again I ask them... where are you on Travel Weekly power list - We made # 35 travelweekly.texterity...

    Best to all
    www.8Trillion.com
    2008 Feb 28 04:24 PM | Link |
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    You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

    If your company was so great why not claim the $50,000 written guaranty we have???? If you can find a better company and better pay plan, why not just claim the money? No one in over a year has come forward..interesting ? What are you waiting for?? I just do not understand why you would ever think that Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines banned you along with many others and you have no IATA number which means when you go to a resort or hotel and they ask for it you do not get a discount because they do not accept YTB. Why did the Atty General shut down all the web sites in Rhode Island..he did it for the fun of it you say right. You are drinking some awful kind of awful medicine here for sure. You are a "card mill" and that is why you were banned. No Certified Travel Agent position either. Any one can pay to have them listed as anything they want. The truth be known by all those who had a power team and left YTB. Want to talk with them all? I have many on my team and they will be more than happy to talk with anyone of you and tell you why they left. Just say the word and I'll arrange a conference call with the thousands who left YTB. One has to have an easy to duplicate system as I've said many times. Many do not have 5 hundred dollars to invest, many need extra income and can't join because of this.. Many I'm sure have not joined you because they can't afford your high entrance fee..besides the fact we pay out more commission, each and every time...don't believe me, I can prove it..but you are so brainwashed you will not even look at what we offer. So be it, stay with your wonderful YTB. I'm not asking you to join us. If you like/love what you have no problem. I do not like to see people struggle. I sat in a YTB meeting and heard these people say they were NOT making any money, that to me is proof enough. Sure the strugglers have made the ones at the top Rich..easy to see. 85% of the money goes only to 3% of the people..that is why you struggle and you will keep struggling. In order to make it you have to be a recruiting machine, how many do you know that are like that? The direct selling association says the average person only recuits 2.3 people..that is a fact. We have average people earning money right away, they are not struggling either. Success is finding the RIGHT company, the right leadership, the integrity of the leaders. Bottom line, we make money with people not OFF of them, huge difference. Now go back to your smoke and mirrors you present.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c... for more information if you choose. It is all up to you. Only you know what is best for you and your family. Cheers.
    2008 Mar 01 12:02 AM | Link |
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    Heartprints.... Again, I sure hope this recruiting tactict is working for you. You hang on this IATA & RCCL thing like it is your only hope or a siamese twin. Either way they are both ugly. Your company will never match YTB. My team alone has over 750 team members in it and I just joined YTB 5 months ago and made over $90,000. I will end my 1st year in this business with close to $275,000 1099. Not bad for a years pay, huh... How much have you made and how long have your been with Traverus. 67 people joined our team in the last 2 days. Everyone in our Team is making good money. YTB earns together.

    YTB is on fire. How is that for numbers and the best compensation plan, EVER!. I have seen your comp plan. It does not compare. I have completed extensive research on your company. Sorry, YTB wins.

    People do not be fooled. Traverus is for lazy people who want to make little money quickly and do not want to or do know how to work their business. It is also for YTB ex-pats who keep changing professions anyway. YTB has over a 55% retention rate. If you are will to work your business, YTB will pay you beyond your wildest dreams. I am living proof.

    YTB sells travel. Close to $750 million in 2007. We will sell over $1 Billion in 2008. This is through our online travel websites and the incredible people on the YTB Team.

    I do not care what business you are in, you are always going to have poor leaders that care about themselves only. They do not train and help their team become successfull. We have the #5 growing team in all YTB because we care about everyone who joins and give them the tools, training and support to succeed. If you are wanting to join a solid company, work hard and make alot of money, then YTB is for you.

    Anyone who joins a network marketing business should always interview their sponsors and the Team Members of the team they might be joining. Do not join a team just because your good friend introduced it to you and you feel obligated. If they do not like what they find, don't blame the company because it is most likely the leader. We have proven leaders in our team and our team is prospering because of it. People who join our team put their trust in our leader and we never fail them.

    I will check back in from time to time to see how all of you are doing but not very often. I am too busy helping my team grow their business. If you ever have any questions you can always contact me via email, I will respond.

    To your Health and Weath,
    Kirk
    KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...
    KirkChaffin.com
    2008 Mar 01 11:46 AM | Link |
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    Please don't tell me that we can't match YTB we have passed them. Please stop saying things you have no clue about. You are not in our company. Why do we have thousands joining us from YTB???? I can prove it too. Thousands not just a few.
    Also it is ILLEGAL to discuss EARNINGS. I'm sure you do not know that but it is. I could report you for that, I won't certainly but you need to be careful. You are not allowed to show your checks either to anyone. How are all the people doing in YTB not just a few exceptional ones that are recruiting machines. Each and everyone in YTB does not make that kind of money for sure..you can't kid me, you know perfectly well a small few make that money if at all. The truth shall set you free. We pay out more commission than you do and if you saw our comp. plan you sure do not understand it. Our commissions beats YTB each and every time and yes I can prove it too.
    TraVerus is not for lazy people and STOP your nonsense please it is ugly. How would you know anyway you are not in TraVerus? No one is asking you to leave your superior company, stay with it if it is so great for you. It may be great for you but many many are struggling and your attrition rate is much much higher than you say here..Why not try being honest for a change. It might do you some good.
    IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT YTB HAS BEEN BANNED BY ROYAL CARRIBEASN CRUISE LINES AND THAT IS NOT THE ONLY COMPANY YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED BY. IATA NUMBER ALLOWS DISCOUNTS AT MAJOR HOTELS ETC..WITHOUT IT YOU DO NOT GET THE DISCOUNT. YTB IS NOTHING MORE THAN A "CARD MILL" FOLKS GO TO GOOGLE AND LOOK UP CARD MILL AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT YTB IS ALL ABOUT. YOU CAN'T FOOL ME SORRY KIRK I DON'T BUY ANY OF YOUR NONSENSE. I'M GLAD FOR YOU THAT YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL BUT TRY ASKING THOSE IN YTB THAT ARE NOT MAKING A DIME AND NOT GETTING ANY HELP AT ALL.
    FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO CARE WE DO NOT DISCRIMINATE AND ALLOW THE AVERAGE PERSON TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GREAT MONEY, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE $500 TO INVEST. LET'S GET REAL HERE FOLKS. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY COMPANY. WE ARE FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST THOSE WITH $500.00. WHAT DO YOU GET FOR THAT MONEY..0 BECAUSE THE FIRST 6 PEOPLE GO TO THEIR UPLINE. 85% OF THAT MONEY GOES TO ONLY 3% OF THE PEOPLE WHILE THE OTHERS STRUGGLE. The ones at the top are the ONLY ones who benefit.

    WE ARE NOT GREEDY WE ARE NOT A HYPE COMPANY YOU PROMISE THE MOON AND DO NOT DELIVER..THAT IS DECEPTIVE.
    WHAT ABOUT RHODE ISLAND..THOSE IN TYB FOR RHODE ISLAND HAD THEIR WEB SITES SHUT DOWN AND I'M SURE FOR A VERY GOOD REASON..NOT JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT. BEING BANNED SAYS IT ALL. THE STOCKS ARE WORTHLESS. THE FORMER LAWYER FOR YTB IS BACK..PAID OFF I'M SURE TO KEEP QUIET..YTB DID NOT HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO DO THAT TO SHUT HIM UP. DO YOU REALLY THINK THE PUBLIC IS STUPID. YOU ONLY BROUGHT IN 67 PEOPLE LAST WEEK AND YOU THINK THAT IS A LOT. WE BROUGHT IN ALMOST 2,000..HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    Heartprints143@yahoo.c...
    2008 Mar 02 03:03 PM | Link |
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    This was written by Kirk above.. folks they pay 60% and TraVerus pays $70% This is what he himself wrote..

    From Kirk's site his message follows....

    How cool would it be to have your own personalized Online Travel Website where you earn 60% of the commissions on ALL travel booked through your site, including YOUR PERSONAL TRAVEL! You just pull up your new Online Travel Website, locate the trip, book and earn 60% of the commission generated.
    **********************...
    NOTICE HE STATES 60%..AND WE PAY 70% THAT IS ONLY ON ONE WAY TO EARN..WE HAVE TEN WAYS.

    HE SURE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND OUR COMP. PLAN HE ONLY THINKS HE DOES ..WE BEAT YTB EACH AND EVERY TIME ON COMMISSIONS PAID. FOLKS PLEASE DON'T LET HIM FOOL YOU, HE IS OUT ONLY FOR YOU MONEY, NOTHING MORE.
    2008 Mar 02 03:10 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143 - where is your comp plan...you hide it... ours is on our web site for all to view and what are your travel commissions % that the vendor pays you... see this is where you hide the info... plus we make an additional 10% of all the gross travel commissions for those in our power team... we are not looking for money... we are looking for people that want to be on a winning team with the best booking engine backed by a real corporation with training and a vision to be the largest on-line booking engine!

    It is you and your kind that post many bogus facts about YTb... now lets see... how do you know how many web sites YTB sold last month.... you pulled the number out of the air.... get real and state the real facts.... I do not even have the real number..

    so you make 70% of what % vendor commissions and at what level... oh... and the up charges
    Why would anyone want to join with you.... facts are facts... and lies are lies

    want some facts
    go to our investor page - see the SEC filings and press releases.. www.Ytbi.com/investor/ where are yours
    You are all full of bull !!!!! And please do not send us those bogus web sites with bogus posts that your kind creates(ever notice other opportunities pitched at the end)
    and the stock is not worthless - you still need to take stock 101 to understand what a three for one split means...

    YTB paid back its agents more in commissions than your company grossed.... so who is making more money.. see we are about booking travel and training our people....

    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com
    2008 Mar 02 07:34 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints143 you stated "If your company was so great why not claim the $50,000 written guaranty we have???? If you can find a better company and better pay plan, why not just claim the money? No one in over a year has come forward..interesting ? What are you waiting for??"

    Put it on the table...... show us what you need... what is you grea so called plan with small print?
    2008 Mar 02 07:36 PM | Link |
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    sorry GREAT
    2008 Mar 02 07:37 PM | Link |
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    Heartprints... There you go again, hanging on to this IATA & RCCL crap. Why don't you get some new material? Everyone knows YTB RTA's are still benefiting. You are the uneducated one. ALL of us in YTB use our ex-IATA number, same one mind you, and get our discounts everytime. Nothing has changed. And be honest, Traverus does not have an IATA number either. If by your definition YTB is a cardmill then Traverus is a cardmill as well. So do some homework and quit misleading people to recruit downline. You do have one thing correct though, YTB pays 60% and Traverus pays 70%. That is great for anyone just wanting to be a travel agent. I am not ready to put on a headset. Mostly all of us are in this business for the Networking Marketing aspect. No one will get rich just by selling online travel, there is just too much competition. It's the YTB comp plan that blows you Traverus out of the water. I will take the 60% and YTB comp plan over Traverus any day. People don't be fooled. YTB is far superior.

    As far as disclosing income, go to YTB.com/kchaffin. Click on the top of the page. Our income is disclosed and has to be because we are publicly traded and it is FTC law. This is common knowledge.

    I am not out for anyones money. This is just another recruiting tactict by Heartprints. I will help anyone who joins our team become a success. I always tell everyone to do their homework and join whomever they feel comfortable with. Even if it means joining a different company or different team. If you don't want to join YTB that is OK. But if you do, work hard and follow my teams program YTB will pay you beyond your wildest dreams. I started out at the bottom and paid my $450 just like everyone else. The difference: I worked hard and had alot of support from my entire team. Folks, it is not the amount of money you pay to join that convince's your prospects to join your company. Everyone knows it is a hard sell because Network Marketing has a bad name from people who join do not work the business properly or are not supported by their team. It is these people who bad mouth our "Industry". It is just like any business including the W2's, you always have an anchor draggin it down.

    WOW Heartprints! You personally recruited 2000 into your team in 2 days. That is unheard of. Talk about a recruiting machine. This recruiting tactict must be working for you. Well you just keep on keeping on. I am glad to hear you are doing so well. I guess I am outclassed by someone who just put 2,000 into their team in the past 2 days and I only sponsored a measly 67. WOW. impressive. I guess we should all join Heartprints... NOT!

    As always, do your homework. Ask the right questions. Does Traverus actually have an IATA number? The fact is no they don't. Another fact, it does not matter. We all have a booking number. The industry does not know how to treat RTA's with an online travel website. So they do not recognize any of us as "Travel Agents". We just refer people to our websites hence, "Referring Travel Agents". To become a "Travel Agent" it takes much more time, training and education than the class Traverus requires you to take.

    Again, Join the company and team you feel most comfortable with. Because if you are not a network marketing professional (as I am not, never did this before in my life) you will have a learning curve and your team should train, supply the tools and support you.

    Heartprints, best of luck to you I really wish you well.

    To your Health and Weath.
    2008 Mar 02 08:28 PM | Link |
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    Leighton, great post. I did forget to mention the 10% override. Just another outstanding part of the YTB comp plan.
    2008 Mar 02 08:37 PM | Link |
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    and never mind the 50% match of $1,000 and $5,000 travel commission match when one in their power team hits these commissions!!!!
    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com


    2008 Mar 02 08:47 PM | Link |
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    Another - YTB is company of the month www.nmbj.com/articles/...

    Leighton
    www.AllenbyTravel.com
    2008 Mar 02 09:03 PM | Link |
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    I am new to blogging and was wondering if any of you online agents have actually had travel discounts applied to your 'referring travel agent' title? It seems that all of these posts are about the 'team' and how many people you can get to sign up, but what about the actual travel benefits? Anyone have experience of successfully getting a bonafide travel agent discount as an online agency? Just wanted to know, since that is what you're selling, right????
    2008 Mar 02 11:46 PM | Link |
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    Mon Dec 17th
    YTB has many question marks....it is important to read and research the findings of Andrew Left before deciding to join YTB...chief among these is the main source of revenue....i.e. recruiting fees. In Canada it is receiving income for recruiting as opposed to product or service driven income that defines an MLM as illegal.
    One among many other concerns is the emphasis on the "Success From Home Magazine"..with an issue at least in each of the last 2 years dedicated to YTB. This publication has all the earmarks of "bought advertising" yet Reps pass it on as evidence of an independent 3rd party analysis pointing to legitimacy. YTB has so far been prevented from entering Canada because IATAN (Canada) will not endorse YTB or give it or it's REPs IATAN status. This is particularly frustrating because again Reps (and maybe YTB) mislead potential Reps by saying they can get the Fam Trips and other perks of legitimate Travel Agents. YTB identifies their Reps , not as Travel Agents, but Referring Travel Agents. Just as in Primerica where Referring agents cannot act as financial planners, nor can YTB Referring Travel Agents act as legitimate travel agents. It appears that YTB has qualified Travel Agents in other parts of the organization who fulfill this role...but it is YTB's responsibility to come clean about what Referring Agents can and cannot do and what they can and cannot get in terms of travel industry perks. YTB is ultimately responsible if misleading statements are made at meetings promoting YTB as a business. Again, in closing, there remain too many question marks about YTB. Posting rep income data does nothing to prove the legitimacy....lots of really bad MLM models have made a number of reps at the top of the pile wealthy...this does not mean they are honest endeavors...often they are skillfully skirting the law. The money statements cause greed-driven people to get involved.
    Heartprints143@yahoo.c... contact me for more information, never any obligation or hype.
    2008 Mar 03 02:54 PM | Link |
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    to cali dreaming there are many perks to travel..however you need to be with a company that offers a CTA position and many if not all do not..WE DO ! CTA = Certified Travel Agent who goes through legitimate travel agency training, one that is not listed as a "card mill". (for info on card mill go to google.com) The perks are cruises for 6 days including taxes and port charges for $240 in September 07 to Mexico and one to Jamaica in January of 08 for $285 includes port charges and taxes. Fam trips (familiarization trips) are working trips from early am to late in the afternoon. When I am on vacation I do not want to work, fam trips are work. Be aware there is no commision on air fare from any company. We have a condo that sleeps 10 at Disney for a week at $250.00 for the week. Those are some of the perks and there are many.

    Contact
    Heartprints 143@yahoo.com for more info without any obligatioin, hype or convincing. Only you know what is best for you and your family..Also beware of high cost to join any company. 85% of that money only goes to 3% of the people at the top to make them wealthy while the others struggle. You have to make sure your company policies are easy to duplicate.
    2008 Mar 03 03:04 PM | Link |
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    To Whom It May Concern...
    I am not here to recruit anyone. I am here strictly to inform the public and state the TRUTH nothing but the TRITH. I have a great team and making great money. Many are on my team that left YTB and they did it on their own. I do not need any one here on my team nor have I recruited any one from here nor do I need or want anyone from here. That has to be a decision you make on your own which company suits you BEST. I have never convinced anyone to join me in my business. I tell them they have to do what is best for them and their family.

    IT IS ILLEGAL TO STATE INCOME, THAT IS RIGHT, ILLEGAL SO THOSE OF YOU DONG IT BETTER BEWARE PLEASE.

    No one needs to be burned in any company and that is my mission to keep people from being burned or given false information or hype. Any company that guarantees income of any kind is doing themselves and the company they represent a dis service. If you'd like to speak with former YTB people in my group just contact me at Heartprints143@yahoo.c... Wishing you all the BEST and hope you and your familes prosper beyond your wildest dreams.
    2008 Mar 03 03:33 PM | Link |
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    To:- kchaffin We at TraVerus are not a "card mill". We have constant, extensive on going training. We have the cruise lines who come and train us properly so we are a genuine Certified Travel Agent and Agency. Everyone goes through the training on line. It is an open book test we take and we do not charge $150.00 to take it like you do. I do not have to use any foul language or call anyone names to prove any point. Where is your respect? I'm a lady and I have respect for everyone here. We have 100% and 150% coded and matching bonuses. That is why we are so successful and the average person who never made any money in any other program they are now making great money with TraVerus. I have not called any one any names here either. It shows me what kind of a character you have. My integrity is worth more than anyone could ever pay me. I think if you tried acting like a gentleman it would serve you well. I do not need you to tell me to do my homework either. If you saw what we offer you too would run in our direction wanting to join us. We make money with people not off of them.
    No matter what company you are in I wish you every happiness. I'm only here for the TRUTH and I think everyone deserves to know the truth. Which ever company you are with as long as it makes you happy and you are not deceiving anyone that is great. I do not wish you anything but the very BEST. We at TraVerus do not hide the truth nor will we ever do such a thing. I've said it before many times, I'll say it again...you were not banned by RCCL and IATA just for the fun ot it, they had a very good legitimate reason. You don't think it is important but I do and it is important. Companies do not go around banning others for the fun of it especially well known cruise lines such as Royal Caribbean. By the way you hit those commissions only by the HIGH FEES you charge to make the ones at the top WEALTHY. Try admitting it for a change. You have a huge attrition rate 78%. For the amount of people in your company many more should be making much more money but unless you are a recruiting machine does anyone make huge commissions..only those few at the top. Good Luck.
    2008 Mar 03 04:07 PM | Link |
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    Subject: TraVerus Travel VS YTB IMPORTANT INFO
    Is YTB Really Working For You?
    Are you struggling to recruit people
    with the $500 entry fee?
    Are you struggling to recruit 6 people
    just to start making any monthly income?
    Are you struggling with losing recruits
    because they can't easily get to break-even?
    Are you struggling with losing credibility
    because YTB no longer has a valid IATA number and has been also banned from Royal Caribbean Cruise LInes?
    Check this out www.ytbexposed.com
    www.mlmwatchdog.com

    Start Making Money Immediately
    A YTB Agent in New Jersey
    Enrolled 80 People in YTB in 18 Months
    By July 2007 he had only 39 people left
    And made only $78 in monthly commissions
    He Moved His YTB Team to Traverus
    In August 2007 he had 109 people
    And made $1075 in monthly commissions
    In September 2007 he had 177 people
    And made $1510 in monthly commissions
    Enroll Only 3 People for 3 Levels
    YTB Monthly Income ..... $0
    Traverus Monthly Income ..... $464
    Traverus Signup Only $129.95
    plus $49.95 monthly after the first month
    Professional Travel Benefits
    Professional Marketing System
    (no meetings required)
    Income Comparisons
    Signup Bonuses Monthly Bonuses
    Organization* YTB Traverus YTB Traverus
    3 x 3 $375 $850 $0 $464
    3 x 4 $375 $1,650 $0 $1,029
    3 x 5 $375 $3,250 $0 $2,321
    *DSA - the average agent will only recruit 2-3 people.
    (DSA--Direct Selling Association)

    2008 Mar 03 04:52 PM | Link |
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    DUDE ALL YOU DID IS CUT AND PASTE FROM A OLD RESPONDS march3 2:54pm/ Your SOOOOO dishonest you sd////YTB has so far been prevented from entering Canada because IATAN (Canada) will not endorse YTB or give it or it's REPs IATAN status///// PLEASE www.prnewswire.com/cgi...= I feel soo sorry for anyone that signs with you! GOD help them.
    2008 Mar 04 01:31 AM | Link |
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    Dear Cali Dreaming, Absolutely... I continuously get travel discounts with my RTA status. And the more training courses I take by company sponsored classes, cruise line sponsored training courses and the resort industry my credential grow stronger.

    The discounts, FAM Trips, heartprints mention in their post are available to all YTB RTA's as well. These are only 1 of many options available to you. If Heartprints tries to say otherwise it is just another one of their lies and recruiting tactics. Myself and many other of my fellow RTA's have taken a few of these trips. I will be going to PERU on 10 days with Air, 5 star Hotels all meals and english speaking guided tours for just $499.00. This is just one of the many FAM Trips available. Plus, when you book travel on a YTB website you pay the best price.

    I am not here to sell anything, I want to show people who to save $1,000's every year on their travel budget. And with a company growing and soon to be the largest in the travel industry.

    Cali Dreaming, Good luck to you and your new blogging endeavors as I hope you find what you are looking for. If you have any questions feel free to contact me at anytime.

    To you Health and Wealth,

    Kirk
    KirkandTiaTravel@cda.t...

    2008 Mar 04 11:26 AM | Link |
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    Heartprints, please don't insult your intellegence. Anyone reading your entries knows for a fact you are here to recruit and bashing YTB is your tactict. And don't be hypocritical, as you say it is Illegal to post income.

    What is your IATA number? You don't have one.... Quit sidestepping the issue. Be honest. The fact is the industry does not know how to classify "Online Travel Agents", including Traverus.

    YTB has all the same classes. We take the same online tests. We have the Cruise industry training our RTA's. You just continue to try and bash YTB to mislead people into thinking Traverus is a better option. This is your recruiting tactict.

    If you had any integrity you would sell your company on their merits alone. You are not here for the truth, you are here to bash and ride coattails.

    Again, good luck to you.
    2008 Mar 04 11:42 AM | Link |
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    kchaffin....you can believe anything you wish. You don't know me. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE..YOU SAY THAT WE CAN'T BEAT YOURS THEN WHY NOT CLAIM THE MONEY??????? BY THE WAY I DO NOT NEED LUCK, LUCK MAKES NOTHING HAPPEN PEOPLE MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
    2008 Mar 04 02:40 PM | Link |