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It’s not often that we say “it rocks” when analyzing a consumer device trend. But the findings of our latest ChangeWave cell phone survey invite extremes to describe the startling impact the Apple (AAPL) iPhone is having on the cellular industry.

Our survey of 3,489 Alliance members – conducted April 4-10 – reveals exceptionally high levels of excitement surround the iPhone’s upcoming release. Nearly one-in-10 respondents (9%) say they are likely to buy the new iPhone once it becomes available in June.

Another 7% say they are likely to buy the iPhone as a gift for someone else.

These are big numbers, especially when you consider the worldwide market for cell phones is around 1 billion and Apple’s goal is to get to 1% of that market in year one – which would mean selling about 10 million phones.

Clearly the current results, while similar to our January survey findings, provide strong evidence that Apple should exceed its iPhone sales goals for 2008 – providing the device lives up to consumer expectations.

The iPhone’s overall integration of iPod, Phone, Camera and Email/Internet capability (28%) remains the top selling point among likely buyers. Importantly, the survey has also uncovered an additional surge in demand if the iPhone’s proposed price point is lowered.

To find out how far the price has to drop to attract additional customers, we asked the rest of our respondents who aren’t yet considering the iPhone the following question:

For those not considering buying an Apple iPhone, at what price point would you consider buying an iPhone?

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A total of 10% say they’d consider buying a 4GB iPhone if the price falls to the $200-$299 range, while a total of 20% said they’d consider the 8GB model in this price range.

The Explosive Impact on Cell Phone Manufacturers

To gain a full sense of the iPhone’s looming impact on manufacturers, we compared their current market share in our survey with planned consumer purchases for the next six months.

Currently, Motorola (MOT) (33%) remains the leading manufacturer among Alliance cell phone owners, with LG (LPL) (15%) second and Nokia (NOK) (14%) third. But when you look at planned future buying the iPhone’s impact becomes clear.

For the second-consecutive survey, Motorola’s future share among consumers has seen a dramatic decline – falling from 33% last October to just 17% currently. Nokia has also fallen from 11% to 9% during this period.

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“As more and more consumers switch to the iPhone, we are going to see a huge migration from cell phone manufacturers like Motorola to the hipper, cooler iPhone,” says Tobin Smith, founder of ChangeWave Research and editor of ChangeWave Investing.

The Effect on Cellular Service Providers

We see the same pattern among service providers. Currently, Verizon (VZ) (30%) holds the market share lead among our respondents while AT&T’s (T) Cingular (27%) – which is Apple’s exclusive service provider for the United States – is in second. We note that third place Sprint/Nextel (S) (12%) has fallen 1-point to a new low.

But going forward we find a dramatic turn of events. Cingular (28%; up 6 points) has surged ahead of Verizon in terms of future planned buying among consumers, and is now the top choice among those likely to switch service providers.

vz v cingular

Verizon (22%; down 3 points) has continued to trend downward among this critically important group – falling to second place for the first time since we began asking this question in a ChangeWave survey.

Thanks to our early adopters of the ChangeWave Alliance we are able to see with stark clarity how the Apple iPhone is set to rock the cell phone industry.

Ultimately the real issue for Apple isn’t meeting its first year iPhone sales goals. The survey shows that’s very doable. The real issue is whether they can keep up with consumer demand – including having enough parts to fulfill orders – while maintaining product integrity.

Its competitors had better hope the iPhone can’t get a dial tone – because if it does, the rest of the industry’s in for a big shakeup.

Jim Woods co-wrote this article.
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This article summarizes the results of a recent ChangeWave Alliance survey. The Alliance is a research network of 10,000 business, technology and medical professionals who spend their everyday lives working on the front line of technological change. For more info on the ChangeWave Alliance, or if you are interested in joining, please click here.

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    "Our survey of 3,489 Alliance members reveals exceptionally high levels of excitement surround the iPhone’s upcoming release. Nearly one-in-10 respondents (9%) say they are likely to buy the new iPhone once it becomes available in June. Another 7% say they are likely to buy the iPhone as a gift for someone else.
    These are big numbers, especially when you consider the worldwide market for cell phones is around 1 billion and Apple’s goal is to get to 1% of that market in year one – which would mean selling about 10 million phones.
    Thanks to our early adopters of the ChangeWave Alliance we are able to see with stark clarity how the Apple iPhone is set to rock the cell phone industry.

    This article summarizes the results of a recent ChangeWave Alliance survey. The Alliance is a research network of 10,000 business, technology and medical professionals who spend their everyday lives working on the front line of technological change."

    Doesn't the survey base - which sounds like well-to-do professionals naturally inclined to buy an expensive product like the iPhone - imply a huge bias in your numbers that doesn't seem to be accounted for? I have a feeling that global market of 1 billion includes very few people who are like your apparent sample base... I think you are too aggressive in extrapolating a data point that seems inherently biased, but I would love to hear evidence to the contrary.
    2007 May 04 03:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    I have palm treo 700 with verizion and i really DISLIKE my service and my phone and cant believe i paid so much for this phone($500),Verizion called to ask if i would be using them in the future and i was honest ,i said no!!!!! The only thing cool is i can use the note pad ,calender ,and camera.which are basic on cheaper phones.I have a MAC BOOK and LOVE it,Id never buy a PC again .Now back 2 the phone I cant wait for the NEW IPHONE to come out,I thought the treo 700 would be good to use for my new real estate job,still in school but I will sell my treo online and gladly pay for a IPHONE.I dont make alot of money YET but I belive in buying QUALITY!!!!

    LADYFROM COLORADO
    2007 May 06 11:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    I have a Palm Treo 700w also, and about the only thing I love about it is that I can log into my servers via Windows Remote desktop access to Terminal Server feature built into my servers. I hope I can put the Mac OS version of this on my iphone so with the Iphone I too can access my servers as I can on my Mac computers.

    On the Treo, I like that I an create or open a small Excel spreadsheet or that I can open up a Word document. BUT!!! Unfortunately, the quality of the phone is bad. I often can't answer a call when I am looking at email or in a document. Calls come in and push on buttons and it just doesn't respond. The bottom line.... if you're looking for a reliable phone, a Treo 700w is a phone you CAN'T count on.

    So the Treo is a lousy phone, ok, so why would I consider an Apple iphone? Simple... Apple quality, ingenuity, and simplicity. Let's go back several years...I started using Windows when it first came out (remember Windows 286 and Windows 386) and over many many years I got to the point where I was just accepting of the blue error screens, other error windows, and poor performance from spyware and virus infections. I "learned" that one has to reinstall Windows every 6 months and all applications to get good performance. I "learned" that you need to spend time fighting spyware every day, and that it was normal for Windows to eventually start to run S-L-O-W-L-Y. I found solutions and patches and provided support to my clients over the years to fix these problems.

    Then one day, Apple announced that they would be releasing an Intel-based Mac. No one knew if it would be able to run Windows, but on the day it was announced, I ordered one. Later, before my new Macbook arrived, Microsoft announced that it would not support EFI (more modern BIOS) that the Mac used. I figured, however, that someone would figure it out a way to make Windows work on an Intel-based Mac and I took the leap. You might ask, why was I so concerned about running Windows? ...well, like I said, I provide support on Windows and also write code in Windows, so I couldn't completely abandon it. But I figured that for email and internet and to create documents I might be able to work in Mac OS X instead of Windows. I hadn't spent much time on a Mac, and didn't know how easy or hard it would be to swtich, but I was so willing to just try anything else, because I was already sick of spending more time fixing my computer than actually using it! I thought...if the quality of Apple's computer were anything like the iPOD, I had nothing to lose. As it turns out, It was the best decision I ever made in years, and I've been suggesting to all my clients that they make the switch.

    I received my Macbook in early 2006 and I absolutely LOVE IT. I am in the business of supporting computers so I have to expose myself to everything and learn all I can, so I bit the bullet and reluctantly bought Microsoft Vista (the Ultimate version) for a Core Duo 2.4 Shuttle computer. I am soooooo disappointed in this OS. I am running 2gb of RAM which should be plenty by any standard. My Mac with 1gb, blows away this computer, and my Mac has a slower processor! Internet Explorer crashes, this new Vista OS hangs up, and I have webcams and scanners that are no longer compatible with my OS. What's up with that???

    Last weekend I bought a Mac Pro 2.66. The quality of the machine is like nothing I've ever seen. The design is like nothing I've ever seen. The materials used, are like nothing I've ever seen. How can I not buy a phone from a company that cares so much about design, quality, and user experience! I love my Macbook and my Mac Pro, and I know I will love my iphone.

    ANOTHER WINDOWS TO APPLE CONVERT
    2007 May 08 04:41 AM | Link | Reply
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    First of all i think the reason you keep getting inferior products is because you are stupid. why in hell would you pay 500 for a palm treo when you can get an equivalent pda for the same price with better performance? second of all macs suck. have you priced one lately? i have a dell inspiron (that i love by the way) that i got new from dell for $709. an equivalently configured Mac would have set me back $2400!!! I dont care how much better you think the quality of a mac is, you could have bought three dells of extremely high performance and quality and still had change left over. second, your grammar sucks, so you must be stoopid. ever hear of apostophes? a lot is 2 words, (not one) you are supposed to put a space after commas, believe is not spelled belive, and (to) is a word... not a number in the context in which you use it. here's a hint. do NOT buy an iPhone, because they will break faster than you can say iPhone. accelerometers are extremely delicate and the iPhone is loaded with them. So stay in school, take a remedial grammar class and for gods sake stop glorifying apple. i mean seriously... are you retarded or just an apple employee? (or is there a difference?) by the way Verizon is the best service provider available. they have the best coverage out of all of them and you should try another service before you go about mindlessly bashing them. ...RETARD!!!!...
    2007 May 22 07:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    Well mister_miggs, apparently $709 won't buy you a computer with shift keys that work. That alone is worth the extra $1691!! I'm sorry your Dell has confined you, but then again, it looks like you belong in the lowercase...
    2007 May 22 07:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    Good Bye Sprint. Well over 10 yrs as a Sprint customer I will GLADLY be giving them the boot come June w/ the iPhone's release. Why? In short- the iPhone is what I have been waiting for in a mobile device!

    Long version- Sprint has royaly been skrewing me for the past 5 or so years. A few years back I saw a HUGE increase in my phone bills (some being nearly $400 dollars). I never go over my minutes, rarely text, or call long distance. I usualy call one other number and that phone is on my plan. Why the huge jump in my bill?? NO ONE at Sprint has been able to tell me. They contradict each other, hem and haw, but not one time in the past 3 years has any of them been able to tell me WHY my phone bill is so expensive. I cut back on calling, rarely even used the phone and still it was $300 per billing period.

    Finally after I lost my phone (and you should hear the lies they told to avoid giving me a replacement phone so they could lock me into another 2 years subscription!!!) I learned from a Sprint representative that I had been paying for an expensive Sprint Vision Pack- for 3 years this is something I repeatedly told them I did not want and was repeatedly told I did not have this service on my plan. THAT is why the bills were so expensive. Each time I called to ask Sprint, I was lied to time and time again- for over 3 years!!

    My contract with them is over!!!! Come June I will HAPPILY bum-rush Sprint to the door! Good riddance Sprint.
    2007 May 07 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    you all fail to realize that even with cingular ...my carrier and iphones intended service provider... offer phones with SIM card slots. my smart phone nokia can be used worldwide using more expensive cingular to roam. i buy prepaid sims..12call here in thailand and call cheap cheap. iphone has no sim slot. that shoots iphone outa the water and that 1% goal. nokia sit back and relax. too bad i might have considered that $600 model. you blew apple.
    2007 Jun 04 11:28 AM | Link | Reply
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    As I've been saying, hasta la vista MOT, RIMM, and Nokia... you're toast. Frankly, even if 1% or 2% buy the iPhone instead of "any of the above," the cell phone industry is screwed. Apple will dominate in its sector like no other, and use it as a beachhead to expand into other areas of the market.

    If 7-9% of professionals intend to buy an iPhone, thats a LOT of sales lost to manufacturers of other smartphones in this niche sector. That's the story here.
    2007 May 04 05:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    "As I've been saying, hasta la vista MOT, RIMM, and Nokia... you're toast."

    And good riddance! As a Verizon customer, I'd love to see them driven out of business, as well, but that could take a few years.
    2007 May 04 10:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tommo_UK is the moderator of a Mac forum, I remember him coming around here to make claims about Apple taking over the world, etc.
    I find the "beachhead" remark interesting because the iPod was supposed to allow Apple to expand into the PC area, and they still have a single digit market share there. Granted, they have seen good growth, but single digits is still single digits. I think everything (and then some) is already reflected in Apple's stock price, and the overly bullish sentiment that surrounds the stock would worry me if I was long.
    2007 May 04 12:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    "they still have a single digit market share there."

    Big single digits are better than small single digits. Technological revolutions, contrary to what you may have heard, don't happen overnight.

    The fact that Vista is shipping-- and is pretty pathetic-- ought to further help the Mac. MSFT had to accrue 4 months sales into their 3 month quarterly report to make Vista adoption look better.
    2007 May 04 01:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    you all fail to realize that even with cingular ...my carrier and iphones intended service provider... offer phones with SIM card slots. my smart phone nokia can be used worldwide using more expensive cingular to roam. i buy prepaid sims..12call here in thailand and call cheap cheap. iphone has no sim slot. that shoots iphone outa the water and that 1% goal. nokia sit back and relax. too bad i might have considered that $600 model. you blew it apple.
    2007 Jun 04 11:39 AM | Link | Reply
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    Funny how narrow minded people think. You're probably a Cosco employee, right? If you're a businessman that lives by the clock and thinks in pennies, get out of your job before it is too late. If you have time to run around to buy cheap pre-paid simm cards i.s.o. taking care of business you'll never work for me. Be happy with your nokia!!
    2007 Jun 04 12:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    wrong wrong and wrong. i travel Worldwide (work for an airline) and get paid for it too....jealous?...you probally dont realize that most of the world's cell phones are sim card based. in fact, in the USA its still backward in cellphone technology. only in the past year has even sms text messenger taken off when its been around for YEARS in asia and europe. narrow minded.....i dont think so. you need to leave the usa,,,and really use the beneifits of UNBLOCKED SIM BASED PHONES to enjoy the the phone, ringtones, kool stuffand internet.... cosco...NOT. i live part time in florida and parttime in thailand. i dont run around buying the cheap sim cards you only know of that the tourists in the usa buy in gas stations use to call back home to columbia or haiti..... do you know what a sim card is??? i am happy with nokia. motorola is good too. and no i dont work for cosco....don't shop there either....enjoy your overpriced iphone and service plans cingular will make you pay.
    2007 Jun 08 08:04 AM | Link | Reply
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    No ciaobell, not jealous. I own with partners 22 companies around the world, fly a "gulfstream V extended". Probably travel as much as you but for the most part I live in the Caribbean. Again as I mentioned you are an unproductive guy that has too much time on his hands, has no clue on how to make yourself productive by "playing" around with ringtones and other "KOOL" stuff, while I merely indicated that Apple is the most productive platform and as such my staff will be outfitted with only the most productive instruments (including the iPhone when the time comes that it makes sense to implement it) so that they do not have to "play around" and foolishly waste time like you do. As I said "you would never work for me".
    2007 Jun 08 09:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    well, i guess you win for being more productive and maintaining 22 companies. this was all about Apple iphone anyhow. not You or I. i CHOOSE not to overwork and enjoy "playing around" while friends and family are endlessly trying to make more money with no time for "life's enjoyments". i earn enough to live in 2 countries.... more than most people i see sitting in I95 traffic daily. as for iphone.. i merely suggested that it would have been better if it included a sim slot and battery change option.......our needs may differ but it could have a more ideal phone or maybe still will be .... in the next generation of iphone. best of luck..and no, i am not looking for other employment!! ciao
    2007 Jun 09 10:13 AM | Link | Reply
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    I agree it is possible Apple has a good chance of dominating the cell phone industry. Some people criticizing your view act as if Apple will not 1) bring out other models of the iPhone, and 2) will not offer less expensive alternatives. Other people seem to think you mean Apple will put those other companies out of business. I doubt you mean that, those companies merely will eventually bleed market share to Apple. It will not happen overnight, anymore then Apple's success with the iPod happened overnight. People forget that the original iPod only worked on the Mac for the first year it was out. More well established players, had over a year to come up with a viable iPod competitor before Apple brought the iPod to the masses, this includes Microsoft who predicted it would not succeed outside the Mac world. We know the story there.

    Apple will likely play the iPhone like it did the iPod. It first introduces the top of the line model. When it has satisfied the demand of this market, it 1) increases the capabilities of the top of the line model, and 2) brings out less expensive alternatives. Apple has a very loyal following, which I would be very suprized if that alone does not give Apple the 10 million iPhones sold it needs to claim success, and justify bringing out other cheaper models.

    Apple clearly already has the big cell phone players nervous, if it didn't you wouldn't hear them ridiculing a product that has not even shipped. The President of Sony is the only credible company to acknowledge Apple's chances of success saying it would be foolish to under estimate Apple.

    Finally, ATT has publically stated that its exclusivity agreement with Apple merely covers the iPhone, not other models of phones Apple may release. Accordingly, it is likley Apple will eventually make deals with other carriers if it thinks it needs to.
    2007 May 05 11:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    The iPhone will take share from every segment of the cell phone industry. It is not an expensive cell phone, it is a fairly inexpensive hand held computer with a Unix based OS and built in cell phone, iPod and camera. When programs like word processors, spread sheets, games and such are available it will really take off. When that happens, it will do anything that 90% of consumers and road warriors do on their personal or portable computers. It could replace many laptops.

    I expect a full line of medium to high end iPhones, including G3 iPhones, marketed in other first world countries following the initial success in America.
    2007 May 04 09:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    I propose we change the name of Windows Mobile to "Windows Downwardly Mobile"
    2007 May 04 10:04 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tommo_UK.... I've enjoyed reading your perspectives on the board. I was hoping you could expound on your assertions that MOT, RIMM, Nokia, etc are dead in the water. Can the iPhone has this much affect on the others? If so, how? And what about the other carriers like Verizon that will not have the iPhone....how will this affect them.

    Unfortunately, I live in an area that does not have a Cingular signal so the iPhone is not an option for me. I would assume that Apple would like to "take over the world", so I'm wondering if there are plans to expand their coverage areas.

    If this iPhone thing does this well............... I'm just glad I own some Apple shares. :-)
    2007 May 04 10:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tommo_UK, that has to be just about the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard on this website. Nokia are a far bigger company than Apple and if you think one phone that costs $600 and therefore twice the price everywhere else in the world will put even the slightest dent in Nokia then you are sorely misunderstood.

    By the time the iPhone comes out in Europe every other manufacturer of mobile phones will have already realeased a phone of similar spec but at 20% of the price.

    I just don't see how you guys think that this is going to replace your laptop, your blackberry, your mobile phone, your mp3 player and everything else in your home. It does all of the above but not nearly as well because it's battery life won't be as good as stand alone products, it's screen is smaller than your laptop and mp3 player, the memory is smaller than you ipod.

    Yet it's still bigger and heavier than all other mobile phones out there.

    This is not going to kill any mobile phone companies. In fact I doubt they are that worried.
    2007 May 04 11:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    "By the time the iPhone comes out in Europe every other manufacturer of mobile phones will have already realeased a phone of similar spec but at 20% of the price."


    Carl-- specs mean nothing. The iPhone will have the advantage that the features will be "friendly" enough that people might actually want to use them. Besides, the iTunes connection is unique. NO other phone maker will have this adavntage.All they'll have is some lame MP3 player built in, tied to some lame subscription service.
    2007 May 04 01:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think passions are causing you guys to miss the point. The iPhone is not replacing a laptop. You cannot edit video or retouch images on an iPhone. You can, however, do 9/10 of what people do most with their laptop. Check email, check news, check weather, check scores. So, if the average person doesn't do any heavy lifting with their laptop, the iPhone will be surprising alternative. Will this kill laptop sales? Maybe. But it will take the field of iPhone competitors in combination with the iPhone to bring about this kind of shift.

    The iPhone will not destroy other cell phone companies, nor do I think anyone is really saying that. What they are saying is that they've been one-upped by Apple and are now scrambling to figure out how to compete. Again, the playing field is broadening as much as the game is changing. If mobiles are becoming computers, who's going to make a better mobile? A cell phone company or a computer company?

    I guess we'll find out in a few months, but the overall point here is that Apple is challenging the market and has a head start. I would agree with that summation, but to quote Robert Frost, "we have miles to go before we sleep."
    2007 May 04 02:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    I made my first geek trek to macworld this year, saw the keynote, met Woz and was impressed with the iPhone. Will I buy it ?.yes. do I own AAPL ?..yes bought it long ago. Do I think iPhone will kill others off ? NO. The first poster is correct in the market demand from the survey is off. I see the cell phone market in two sectors. cheap phones and so called smart phone. Smart phone is what the iPhone is and is a lot smaller market. I think the iPhone will have a significant share of this market in 3 years. RIMM (blackberry) can only go down, but they have a very loyal group, but their last outage will hurt them. other will come out with copies, but will not be the same. the interface and ease of use will make people want to use them and not have to use them. The wild card is that I think iPhone will grow the smart phone market. It is this growth that will make Apple richer. Apple has proven ..you can make a lot of money on a small over all market share. they don't need to take over the world to be a success.

    aloha
    joe
    2007 May 04 06:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am both a smart cell phone user and a computer user. I did not own any Apple products prior to December 2006. I have always been a PC guy. I am on my second blackberry, owned a Kyocera palm based smartphone, and threw my palm 700w (windows) away after less than a year. Having purchased a MacBook Pro in December, I am completely hooked. My Dell laptop died and I decided I would make a switch. I have to admit I was very skeptical. I am telling you right now I will never go back to windows. I still have to use windows a fair amount of time with my job, but that is only because my employer hasn't considered switching. I will never spend money on a windows based machine again. I recently purchased an iPod and am equally impressed. If the iPhone works with the ease of use anywhere near what my MacBook Pro and iPod do, I will be hooked on that as well. Right now the only obstacle is I cannot purchase Cingular service where I live. I would break my contract with Verizon without hesitation if Cingular was available in my area just to get the iPhone.

    I don't understand the comments about the iPhone being big and bulky. Did that person ever try carrying around a blackberry, palm treo, or kyocera smart phone? It can't be any bulkier than than those. The price issue is overblown as well. Look at what Apple sells the video iPods for. Look at what palm sold the treo 700w for. I paid nearly $600 for a phone that is sitting in my closet. You are crazy if you don't think I, and others like me, will pay $600 for a phone that actually does everything it says and is easy to use. My only question is why did Apple wait so long to jump in to the market?

    It will not take over the world, but Apple has succeeded in getting the drop on an industry it did not create and entered into very late in the game. The iPhone will be very successful and Cingular was smart to get in on it.

    Matt Williams
    2007 May 04 07:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think you're missing something. The current market segments are "little phone that calls and messages and maybe takes pictures" (regular cell phones) and "monster portable email device with all this other stuff besides" (so-called smartphones).

    iPhone collapses these segments. Yes, the iPhone technically belongs in the smart phone category, but people who wouldn't in a million years buy a Treo will buy an iPhone, because it will be easy to use, it doesn't have a big honking keyboard, and when they just want to make a call, it gives them an easy, simple, familiar interface to do it. Apple's found a way to make smartphones accessible to nongeek users. This will disrupt the market like no one's ever seen a market disrupted.

    So I'm here to spread the news: Palm is dead. Palm users will migrate to the iPhone. Windows Mobile will survive as a cheap, inferior, Zune-branded knockoff of the iPhone (to the extent that it can do so without infringing patents) for the bitter masochists who refuse to use anything associated with Apple (and who are not sophisticated enough to use Linux). The smartphone category as such will die; all phones will be "smart" within five years. A large percentage of the cellphone market will be Apple-based. Ballmer will throw a few more chairs.
    2007 May 05 12:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    I think people will buy the iPhone even if they can't use it as a phone. the other features..ipod, wifi, iCal, contacts, movies, and what ever else they put in will be worth it to some/me.

    joe
    2007 May 04 09:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    You can bet future iPods will be based on the iPhone. Remove the phone bits, and, voila, WiFi widescreen video iPod.
    2007 May 05 12:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    Mauistardog.....is suda's still around....I grew up in Kihei.

    Any way, the thing that intrigues me about the iPhone is what I heard mentioned during the conference call when financials were released.....which is that there will be continued upgrades and software offerings free of charge to iPhone purchasers. This, alone, will be a bigger deal than most think.
    2007 May 04 10:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    The real game changer for the mobile phone makers is the fact that the iPhone is a complete OS. Thus synching it with your mac and maybe the pc should be simple. It will be great for short internet sessions in all kinds of places when you just would not use a laptop. My wife and i were going to dinner the other night and the italian restaurant was packed (1 hour + wait). Do we wait here or try another restaurant. While you could use phone information, how about using google maps to locate all the restaurants nearby, call one and order a table then head over. The blackberry is about email not browsing. The iPhone is integrating the web, email, video voicemail (how cool will that be) calendars, a music player and the phone into one device. Right now only laptops can do all of this except the phone part. It is the mini laptop in your pocket. The damage is not to every cell phone maker as not everyone needs a $500-$600 phone but no one needs a Porsche, Mercedes or a BMW, but they seem to be everywhere among the well to do.
    2007 May 04 11:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    Never mind that you can locate all the restaurants nearby with about ten Nokia N or E models using the free Maps application, even with built-in GPS on the N95. The "Right now only laptops can do all of this except the phone part" is the typical US RAZR user's viewpoint.
    2007 May 05 02:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    sebhelyesfarku - I think that you should stop blowing your very ignorant head off and start listening to what other, more intelligent people than you are saying. Perhaps you might be constructive in your criticisms, instead mouthing off… but if all you can do is make a loud stupid noise, do us all a favor and quickly fade away!

    I apologize to the rest of you for my outburst, but he is definitely annoying because he refuses to think!
    2007 May 05 09:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    2007 May 05 10:28 AM | Link | Reply
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    I switched too. At some point viruses, spyware, and programs that dont reposnd get old and you have to ask yourself whats important. PCs run off of Windows just arent safe enough. Macs just dont get viruses. For me, thats worth the price of admission alone. I will buy two of the iPhone when it comes out. One for me, one for the wife. If Macs are this good, imagine how good this iPhone will be. I cant wait!!!
    2007 May 05 04:32 AM | Link | Reply
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    I think the numbers reported above are way off as well. However, I think they are biased the opposite way that James Cullen believes.

    "The Alliance is a research network of 10,000 business, technology and medical professionals who spend their everyday lives working on the front line of technological change."

    I think the terms "research" and "technological change" are important to consider. I think this is a group who is looking at technology and what it can do. I don't think this is a group of bleeding edge early adopters. I just don't see that in this group of people.

    Regardless, there seems to be a belief in some circles that the iPhone won't appeal to the business community because it lacks "so many important applications". (because how many time have I seen someone doing their company's annual report on a Blackberry!!) The point is, I believe the last group to want an iPhone is "business professionals".

    So if Paul's research says nearly 1 in 10 of the Alliance will buy an iPhone, then that's great news, because they aren't the group that is going to push iPhone sales. It's the "young crowd" who wants the latest, greatest, hippest devices; not John Starchly, CPA.

    If the pricing is the best argument that people can come up with, then they have forgotten all too quickly our history. The first iPods, giant bricks by today's standards, were $499!! And all they did was play music. My first Treo, $650!! And it is a piece of dung. So the price argument is really some lame attempt at attacking an innovative device. The iPhone is just the beginning. It's not the end all be all device... yet.

    And finally, there is a group of consumers, myself included, who could care less about the iPod feature of the iPhone. We could care less about the "Phone" in iPhone. It's all about a mobile device that works seamlessly with our Macs. Now I can take my calendar, contacts, email, favorite websites, etc., and sync them with my phone. Period. No special middleware, no palm desktop, no weird syncing behavior. Just two OS X devices communicating freely.

    **Mac zealot or not, I'm glad I bought AAPL back in 2003. With the split, that's almost a 15 bagger!! I can afford several iPhones. Sorry if you own MSFT.
    2007 May 05 12:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    I've been using Macs for 14 years now both personally and in my business. With Macs you don't need to by new software as today's Macs update their software automatically. Its only with software from other companies that it is necessary to pay for upgrades. At present, and until the iPhone comes our, I use a Treo as its Mac compatible. My Treo service agreement is ended, but I shall not upgrade my Treo
    phone or service agreement with Sprint. I use a Sprint broadband card with my laptop and get excellent service from that and am sorry
    that Sprint will not be carrying the Mac iPhone.
    2007 May 05 09:03 PM | Link | Reply
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    I've been a Mac user for over ten years but people seem to take that as the likelihood of bias. Sorry to say, I have owned PCs simultaneously with my Macs. My parents were generous enough to allow me to indulge in my geekiness. So my "bias" comes from experience working with both. One gave me peace of mind, the other was painfully annoying at times.

    This is why the iPhone will do well:
    Full browser, not that handicapped piece of dung.
    An actual OS that'll sync my contacts, calendars, email prefs...SEAMLESSLY.

    Forget the phone part, the iPod part, selective voicemail, whatever. Those are some nifty bonuses as far as I'm concerned. I own a Palm LifeDrive. I didn't really need a phone, I just wanted something that I could organize my information and, if I'm in a hotspot, access my email and browse the web a bit. The LifeDrive also sports a 4 GB drive. Whoopee, 4 GB. Whatever, I didn't need much more for an organizer.

    The Palm software...is horrible. It's absolutely painful to use. Half the time it didn't work. Bluetooth syncing, USB cable syncing, whatever, half the time it didn't work. Guess how much the LifeDrive costs. $399. And it's not even a phone! A Palm that has phone options? At least $499. If they're cheaper than that, they were so limited that it wasn't worth my time. Limited...for ME. For someone that only does the very basics on a handheld.

    It's the user-friendly interface that will captivate people. Not the few dozen nifty utilities. It will be managed like iTunes (and I don't care if you're a die-hard Mac hater, you can't deny the iTunes' ease of use) which will also strike a chord with a lot of people. So kudos to mitchell for pointing that out.

    Verizon is definitely going to be losing me as a customer. And to be quite honest, the Cingular reception in my area is shaky and unstable. I don't even care at this point. It'll be like my LifeDrive with moments of internet access, phone capabilities, and an OS that is known for its ease of use. I don't EVER want to look at that PalmOS ever again.

    Motorola and Nokia can look up restaurants all it wants. I don't care if it can locate the Black Market or Osama bin Laden. It's just dull, drab, and not streamlined enough for consumers to consider in comparison to the iPhone.
    2007 May 06 02:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    Simply incredible how everyone here believes so much in vapourware, albeit the sweetest of all as Apple does have the long standing reputation of a real player in any market Steve Jobs leads Apple into. I for one will wait for the second or even third generation of any product from ANY company. I just purchased my first iPod a beautiful 2GB black nano second generation from Apple's refurbished products which allowed me to have my iPod for half or better than what i would have paid for it as a new unit just released. I have had both Mac and Windows in my life since the mid 80's. In the fall I will be looking at a new (to me) G4 i need to run a few things on. I will pay about $500 for this. Next I will look at the 3Ghz Octo Mac Pro possibley saving another few thousand there. My point is this, feeding the frenzy is what marketers do to make you want what they are selling. I do this for a living and notice how much easier it is to sell for a company such as Apple who has a cult following of millions. That's a sure success for anything they already have a taste for. Don't get me wrong I'd love to be on the bleeding edge too. In fact I am developing several of my own products so I already feel the effects of my own bleeding edge. hats off to Apple who knows how to reinvent themselves, create niches and serve them well. I too will adopt the iPhone just not the first generation.
    2007 May 10 03:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    I had six pda and they can not be used in daylight, The last one is a treo 650 and even in a car the screen is to dim. This is understating how bad it is. I will be buying a iphone if you can just see it to use it.
    2007 May 07 01:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am waiting for the iPhone so that I can kiss my current provider goodbye... I have resisted re upping in anticipation of this event. I think that it should be considered just how many of the 100 million iPods out there are nanos... And the biggest of those is "only" 8Gb... The young uns are going to go wild for this thing... What do they want to do? Music, Video, Chat, email and send pics. They will definitely drive the market for this thing. The only concern I have is the battery... If Apple makes a mistake with this thing... It will be not putting in an easily replaceable battery. Since this unit will be capable of so very much... It's going to see a lot more usage than even a Blackberry. A spare battery will be a must! All of my nieces ranging in age from 16 to 20 are saving for one ... And their friends are all on board also. Some of these girls are on their various devices in excess of 10 hours a day. Spare batteries are de rigeur to these kids or they become despondent. In my own case... I will need 3 hours of talk plus 3 hours of music plus 2 hours of miscellaneous per day. And I don't want to send it away nor be without it for any length of time to have a battery replaced... as is the case with all of the 5 ipods in my house. I'm half tempted to wait 6 months and see what shakes out... But I'm not too tempted.
    2007 May 07 08:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm an IT guy for a small/medium company. We have a relationship with Apple for sales and support. When asking about the iPhone's enterprise capabilities, the official word was mum, but the unofficial comment was look for Leopards iCal server. This thing is calendaring, email, meetings, data, and to-do lists all sync'd up in one. All it would take for the iPhone to read/write this data is simple software update. This will be how Apple appeals to the Enterprise crowd.

    www.apple.com/server/m...
    2007 May 08 12:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    Good bye verizon!!! cant wait good bye ,to high bills ,and hard resets,and dropped calls AND LIES!!! CAN U HEAR ME ????CAN U HEAR ME YEAH RIGHT!!!! NO I CANT HEAR U IM USING A $500 PHONE WHY SHOULD I BE ABLE 2 HEAR U ???ANSWER THAT VERIZON???MY $40 PHONE FROM QWEST PHONE CO WORKED BETTER THAN THAT DUMB PALM TREO with verizon i hate the day i ever went over 2 the dark side.LUV U APPLE HOOKED 4 LIFE!!!


    LADY FROM COLORADO
    2007 May 08 02:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Oh, MAN this is fun!! Thanks to all contributors, for enlightening me on the upcoming iPhone release in the US. I live in Norway myself, and can't wait till I get my hands on a phone that actually works... if it does not, I guess this is the place to read all about it. The release in Norway is set to ultimo 2007 - probably primo 2008 - and the markets expectation here is that it WILL be an expensive phone. A MUST-HAVE for anyone visible in business, as well as the geeks, celebs and anyone else who can afford it. The question is however, will Apple make enough of these phones to cover remote markets - such as the one I live in? I hate to prepare for shortage, and I fear next winter is going to be long and cold and that apples will be hard to come by.
    2007 May 08 07:06 AM | Link | Reply
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    Does anybody know who will be the carrier for the Iphone in Australia when it is released here in Australia?
    Would like to think that it would be 3 Services otherwise known as 3 in Australia.Telstra i think dont just have the goods.

    Trev from Australia
    2007 May 13 05:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    Well, I went through all comments and in general I must say that not many have yet understood that it is not about the hardware but about the software. The reason for pointing this out that as everyone knows, or at least should know that any hardware pricing will drop off rather quickly and that speed will only progress. What companies like Apple do is understanding that anything fixed and button operated cannot be expanded. So their whole strategy is based on: new features to your iPhone. No problem, just download them.

    Now <strong>that<... a reason for me to invest in an iPhone. Sure lifespan of the hardware will be maybe three or 4 years, but my features will not stay behind with deciding to make a purchase from Apple. That is what I like about Apple and is the reason for being 3 years in a row "most innovative company" of the year.

    You don't get to play that fiddle if it wasn't the case. It is because the "enlighted" souls out there that use Apple products, use it for one reason and one reason only: Productivity. All the so-called "geeks" that wish to look under the "hood" and thus like Windows and Linux, have nothing better to do with their lives than being a geek.

    Personally, running a company with over 150 Macs (all upgraded to intel based over the last 9 months) for more than 10 years and only having to have 2 network assistants to keep all of us productive, I can only contribute to ease of use, top quality hardware and software integration that seamlessly works. In 10 years we had only one powerbook ever giving us a problem (the on-button was stuck) and never a network breakdown.

    Now, will I recommend that all my employees will switch to iPhones once service will become available in our Area (the Caribbean): Well, the decision has already been made and approved by the board before even knowing when we will have service.

    Outcome of the vote is: All employees that require cell phone communication are mandatory to switch to iPhones (about 70)

    Reason: Being productive without having to spend gazillion hours of reading through booklets, setting up blue tooth connections and as on "commenter remarked i-Cal server!!"

    Many people may think that Macs are "playtoys" for fun and nice to make a movie on and having your iTunes play on your stereo in the den, but they are actually the most productive "toys" around where seamless integration, direct communication and ease of implementation are the keywords for successful productivity.

    One remark: Our "competitor" who is also a friend runs a similar operation on wintel boxes. His annual breakdown (either network breakdown, servers crashing, individual machines crashing, almost daily "fighting" with spyware and virusses, having 7 network specialists employed and still only half of my productivity) has finally broken down and is switching his whole operation over to Macs. Coincidence? I think not.

    iPhones: No-one will be able to keep up with Apple on its integration and will only run behind for the next 5 years to come to get to the same level (if ever) of service using an "out of the box" flawed system software called Windows or even Linux (too many flavors to create consistency).

    Bottom line: the introduction of the "i" did not start a trend but a revolution built on a vision whereas the "i" did not stand for something personal but for "integration through innovation".

    p.s. I do not work for Apple Inc. nor do I even own stock.
    2007 May 16 03:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'll start by saying I was not one of the masses eagerly anticipating the arrival of a phone from Apple. I'm just very fond of their products. My oldest Mac, which still works, is a PowerMac 7200 (something I bought about 11.5 years ago). Is it something that I use today? Of course not-I use large resource intensive applications like Logic Pro and at one time Photoshop and others from the Adobe and Macromedia suites. But today, since Logic is my staple and becomes integrated with so much that I do, Apple's software--or quite simply--their platform needs to be sound for me to work at my best. The platform and software are sound.

    What's really funny is there was a time when my income came from having an affinity with pc's and their software--from DOS all the way up. In order for me to work successfully, I had to know the hardware and Windows. And consequently I became quite good at what I did. Also having friends in the industry, you just wind up becoming quite good at fixing them. Well even before I jumped in to this industry, I owned a Mac (the 7200). Ironically enough, occaisionally I would wonder how I might fix similar problems on the Mac and I could never answer it-and this made me a little nervous. Without giving it more thought I said to myself I would just have to get one of those expensive Mac techs. That's when it dawned on me, I don't know how to work it because it never breaks downs. I never had to go under the hood or replace autoexec.bat files because the Macs I owned did not freak out like the PCs i worked on - on a daily basis.

    Now I can go on and on about the design of the software and their products and the ease of use, but we're a little too familiar with that song. What I will say however, is although I have not heavily anticipated a phone from Apple, I have been counting the days since that Macworld announcement. Since I've been somewhat of a techno-buff (sorry, but you won't catch me referring to myself as a geek) since my commodore 64, I've been an afficionado of good software design--and I've yet to find a company that rivals Apple. It's one of the reasons that I get excited when they come out with a new product or a new version of the software. The average person is not abreast of the many OS-es that exist but for me, not only have they created the world's most advanced OS, but that OS is now running on a moble phone. That's reason enough for me to drop my Palm Treo. Not that my Treo is a bad phone, because I honestly like it. but the Palm OS compared to OS X is like boys among men. I'm excited!

    I, like the above writer, don't work for Apple or own its stock. But god, I wish I did buy some when I considered it around 97 or 98.

    keys2000@mac.com
    2007 May 19 01:27 AM | Link | Reply
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    This isn't anything like the ROCKR. It has iTunes. That's basically it.
    This has far more capacity, video capabilities (Widescreen at that), is touch-sensitive, runs OS X, etc...

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    2007 Jun 21 08:42 AM | Link | Reply