John B. Sanfilippo & Son's (JBSS) CEO Jeffrey Sanfilippo on Q2 2016 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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John B. Sanfilippo & Son, Inc. (NASDAQ:JBSS)

Q2 2016 Earnings Conference Call

January 29, 2016 10:00 PM ET

Executives

Jeffrey Sanfilippo - CEO

Jasper Sanfilippo - COO

Michael Valentine - CFO

Analysts

Francesco Pellegrino - Sidoti

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the John B. Sanfilippo & Son Incorporation’s. Second Quarter Fiscal 2016 Operating Results Conference Call. At this time, all parties are in a listen only mode. And we will facilitate a question-and-answer session towards the end of today’s presentation. [Operator Instructions]

And I would now like to turn the call over to Michael Valentine, Chief Financial Officer.

Michael Valentine

Thank you, Lauren. Good morning, everyone and welcome to our 2016 second quarter earnings conference call. Thank you for joining us today. On the call with me today is Jeffrey Sanfilippo, our CEO and Jasper Sanfilippo, Jr., our COO.

Before we start, we want to remind you that we may make some forward-looking statements today. These statements are based on our current expectations and they involve certain risks and uncertainties. The factors that could negatively impact results are explained in the various SEC filings that we have made, including Forms 10-K and 10-Q. We encourage you to refer to these filings to learn more about the risks and uncertainties that are inherent in our business.

Turning to the income statement, net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2016 increased by 11% to $279 million, in comparison to net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2015 of $251.4 million. The increase in net sales was attributable primarily to a 9.4% increase in sales volume which we measure as pounds sold to customers.

Sales volume increased in all four distribution channels and sales volume increased for all major product types except the almonds and pecans. The increase in the consumer channel volume was primarily attributable to increased sales of private brand peanuts and mixed nuts to existing customers. A 20.7% volume increase for Orchard Valley Harvest and Sunshine Country produce products also contributed to the sales volume increase in the consumer channel. Fisher recipe nut volume decreased by 1.1% primarily due to the unfavorable impact of higher retail prices on consumer demand for almonds and pecans.

Fisher snack nut volume declined by 10.3% primarily as a result of reduced merchandising activity and promotional events that occurred in the second quarter of fiscal 2015 that will not occur until the third quarter of fiscal 2016, also contributed to the decline in Fisher snack volume.

The sales volume increase in the commercial ingredients channel came primarily mainly from increased sales of bulk peanuts to other peanut shellers. And the increase in sales volume in the contract packaging channel was generated by increased sales of peanuts and trail mixes to existing customers. Sales volume rose in the export distribution channel mainly due to increased sales of bulk inshell walnuts.

Net sales for the first two quarters of the current fiscal year increased to $504.8 million from $456.4 million for the first two quarters of fiscal 2015. The increase in net sales in the year to date comparison was primarily attributable to a 5% increase in sales volume.

Higher selling prices for all major product types, except peanuts and walnuts, also contributed to the increase in net sales.

Sales volume was relatively unchanged in the consumer distribution channel and sales volume increases for our branded produce products, Fisher peanut butter, and Fisher Nut Exactly snack bites fully offset a sales volume decline in private brand products in the consumer channel. Sales volume increased significantly in the commercial ingredients, contract packaging and export channels primarily for the same reasons noted in the quarterly comparison.

Second quarter gross profit increased by $7.8 million, and gross profit margin, as a percentage of net sales, increased to 16.1% compared to 14.8% for the second quarter of last year.

The increase in gross profit in the quarterly comparison primarily resulted from increased sales volume, and the increase in gross profit margin was mainly attributable to improved alignment of selling prices and commodity acquisition costs.

Gross profit for the first two quarters of the current fiscal year increased by $10.3 million, while gross profit margin, as a percentage of net sales, increased to 15.5% from 14.9% for the first two quarters of fiscal 2015. The increase in gross profit for the year to date comparison also mainly resulted from increased sales volume. The increase in gross profit margin in the year to date comparison was again mainly attributable to improved alignment of selling prices and acquisition costs.

Total operating expenses for the current second quarter increased slightly to 9.1% of net sales from 9% of net sales in the second quarter of 2015, while total operating expenses increased by $2.8 million. The increase in total operating expenses was due to increased compensation expenses.

Total operating expenses for the current year to date period decreased slightly to 8.9% of net sales from 9% for the first two quarters of last year and total operating expenses increased by $3.5 million. The increase in total operating expenses in the year to date comparison was also due to increased compensation expenses.

Interest expense for the current second quarter was $800,000 compared to $900,000 for the second quarter of last year. Interest expense for the first two quarters of the current year decreased to $1.7 million from $1.9 million for the first two quarters of last year.

The decreases in interest expense in both comparisons were primarily attributable to a reduction in long-term debt.

Net income for the second quarter of fiscal 2016 was $12.1 million, or $1.07 per share diluted, compared to net income of $8.4 million, or $0.75 per share diluted, for the second quarter of last year and net income for the first half fiscal 2016 was $20 million, or $1.77 per share diluted, compared to net income of $14.3 million, or $1.28 per share diluted, for the first two quarters of fiscal 2015.

Taking a look at inventory, the total value of inventories on hand at the end of the current second quarter decreased significantly by $36.7 million, or almost 17%, compared to total inventory at the end of the second quarter of fiscal 2015.

The decrease in the inventory was primarily driven by lower quantities of raw nut and dried fruit input stocks and significantly lower estimated acquisition costs for walnuts.

The 10.2% reduction in the quantity of raw nut and dried fruit input stocks in the quarterly comparison resulted from lower quantities of pecans, peanuts and walnuts. Finally, the weighted average cost per pound of our raw nut and dried fruit input stocks on hand at the end of the second quarter declined by 14.9% mainly due to the decline in our estimated walnut acquisition costs.

And now, I’ll turn the call over to Jeffrey Sanfilippo, our CEO, who will provide additional comments on our performance in the current quarter. Jeff?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Thank you, Mike. Good morning, everyone. As you’ve read in our press release and heard from Mike, great results, I’m very proud of our management team and every one of our 1400 associates for their leadership and efforts to drive our company performance and achieve record second quarter earnings for the fourth consecutive year.

We had a strong quarter in respect to sales volume across all of our business channels. This included a return to sales volume growth in the commercial ingredients and international distribution channels. These results are especially meaningful when you take into account this was another quarter where sales volume for almonds declined significantly due to higher prices. Overall, our brand performance for the quarter was strong compared to the nut category at retail in the consumer channel.

Distribution gains for Orchard Valley Harvest and Sunshine Country produce products on a

combined basis helped drive our overall sales volume growth.

For Fisher recipe nuts, so our sales volume was down slightly in the quarter. Fisher outperformed the recipe nut category at retail with only a five-tenths of a percent decline in pounds, while pounds for the entire category declined by 7.7% according to IRI data.

For Fisher snack nuts, it was a challenging second quarter as they underperformed in the snack nut category at retail with an 18.2% decline in pounds, while pounds in the entire category declined by only nine-tenths of a percent.

The sales volume decline was attributed to a lack of promotional activity at a major customer which Mike mentioned. A key focus for our sales and marketing team is to diversify our customer base for Fisher snack nuts. On a positive note, if we look at our core geography in the Midwest and exclude the one major customer decline, our Fisher snack brand actually increased 17% in dollars, while the category only grew 4.8% in the Midwest.

For the remainder of fiscal 2016 and the first two quarters of fiscal 2017, acquisition costs for almonds and walnuts should decline significantly. These declines in acquisition costs are expected to lead to lower selling prices for products that contain those commodities.

Since sales of almonds and walnuts comprise such a significant percentage of our total net sales, we anticipate that lower selling prices could result in a reduction in total net sales in future comparisons until the impact of lower retail prices ultimately drives increased sales volume for these products. Just as we’ve demonstrated our ability to overcome volatile markets over the past four years, as nuts prices increased to record highs, we will do the same as prices for commodities such as walnuts and almonds decline.

Our sales and marketing teams are already working on programs with customers to manage significant price declines, while maintaining strong top line segment sales. In addition, we expect to see a reversal in the decline of almond consumption particularly as prices come down. It is important to note that in spite of volatile commodities and financial markets, we're on our way to another record year for the company. Our procurement, demand planning, production and sales teams are laser-focused on managing our inventory positions.

Turning to the sales review by business channel, in the consumer channel, overall, strong results. Net sales in the consumer channel increased by 9.1% in dollars and 2.5% in sales volume in the second quarter of fiscal 2016 compared to the second quarter of fiscal 2015.

Our consumer sales and marketing teams are focused on diversifying our Fisher snack distribution to mitigate the volatile impact on volume due to higher customer concentration, as I mentioned.

In the commercial ingredients channel, net sales increased by 11.6% in dollars and 20.7% in sales volume. The sales volume increase for the quarterly comparison was due to increase in sales of peanuts as Mike mentioned. This was done partly to balance our inventory positions at the time. The sales teams in this channel continue to focus on building our Fisher brand in food service working with key private brand partners and developing new value-added partners to diversify our customer base. Net sales in the international distribution channel was relatively unchanged in dollars and sales volume increased 29.3% in the second quarter of fiscal 2016 compared to the second quarter of 2015.

The sales volume increase in the quarterly comparison was primarily due to increased sales of bulk inshell walnuts.

In the contract packaging channel, as was the case in the first quarter of fiscal 2016, sales volume growth in the contract packaging channel contributed meaningfully to our overall sales volume growth in Q2. Net sales increased by 23.5% in dollars and 16.2% in sales volume in the second quarter of fiscal 2016.

The sales volume increase was primarily due to increased sales of peanuts and trail mixes to existing customers. We continue to provide valuable innovation and manufacturing expertise to our key partners in this channel and they've been successful in gaining distribution and launching new products in the market.

Now turning to category updates in the snack, recipe and produce segment and a review of our brand performance during our second quarter.

As always, all the market information I'll be referring to is IRI reported data for the 13 week, the period ending December 27, 2015. When I refer to Q2, I'm also referring to that same 13-week period. References to change in volume or prices are versus the corresponding period one year ago.

We look at the categories on IRI’s total US definition, which includes food, drug, mass Walmart, military and other outlets, unless otherwise specified. And when we discuss pricing, we are referring to average price per pound. The term velocity refers to the sales per point of distribution.

First, let me review some category dynamics. For the quarter, we saw an increase in dollar sale and a decrease in pound volume. This is the result of generally higher retail nut prices which is impacting consumer purchase behavior.

The total nut category increased in sales dollars 2% and declined in pound volume 2% in Q2. Overall, prices in Q2 increased 4% versus the prior year.

Almonds and cashews experienced the largest price increases. Almonds increased 17% and cashews increased 6% versus Q2 last year, and that resulted in a 13% pound sales decline for almonds, while cashews actually increased 5% in pound sales.

Interestingly, cashews were 14% less expensive than almonds and it's possible that some consumers have switched to cashews from almonds.

Now I’ll talk about each category in a little more depth, starting with recipe nuts. In Q2, the recipe nut category decreased 3% in dollar sales and 8% in pound sales, driven by an average price increase of 5%. The decline was led by a 26% increase in almond prices, along with a 3% increase in pecans. Average walnut prices, retail prices decreased 1%.

In relation to total category performance, our Fisher recipe brand had a very strong quarter and continues to build on our previous momentum. The Fisher brand continued its sponsorship of the Food Network and celebrity chef Alex Guarnaschelli.

The program includes refresh, branded, vineyards on the Food Network print advertising in Food Network Magazine and other publications, as well as a fully integrated social media effort. We also continued messaging around our no preservatives product benefit which we started last holiday season.

The no preservatives claim is on trend and has helped distinguish the Fisher brand in the marketplace. Our brand equity efforts on Fisher helped the brand gain share leadership in Q2 across IRI’s multi-outlet geography.

Furthermore, Fisher recipe nuts increased 8% in dollars sales and decreased slightly in pounds versus last year, despite the challenging category landscape. As a result, Fisher’s share in the category increased 1.8 points versus last year.

Distribution gains were a key driver of brand growth, as total points of distribution increased 9% versus a year ago.

Now, let turn to the snack category. In Q2, the snack category increased 6% in dollars and decreased 1% in pound sales versus last year. Average prices were up 7%, led by almonds at 16%. Fisher snack decreased 15% in sales dollars and 18% in pound sales in Q1, due to the reasons I mentioned earlier.

In the produce category, total produce nuts decreased 1% in dollars and 3% in Q2 versus last year. As we described in the last earnings call, we are transitioning our Orchard Valley Harvest business to Sunshine Country at a [ph] major retailer.

As such, we look at our produce nut business as a combination of the two brands. Our total produce business of Orchard Valley Harvest and Sunshine Country increased 9% in pound sales versus last year.

A significant increase in our total points of distribution, up 158%, is driving the sales increase. We will continue to update you on the sales results of this transition in future calls.

In closing, while we face many challenges that impact our company, we’ve proven our ability to manage through difficult markets and regulatory changes to mitigate the impact on our financial performance. And we will continue to work closely with customers to provide value and help them continue to build their nut and snack programs.

A record year-to-date results demonstrate a commitment by the company to provide relevant profitable, value-added products and services to our customers and consumers. These results also demonstrate the success of our strategies to grow our brands.

The management team remains focused on consistent execution of our corporate goals to create customer and shareholder value. And our strategic goals remain consistent, growing Fisher and Orchard Valley Harvest into leading nut brands by focusing on consumers demanding quality nuts in the snacking, recipe and produce categories, expanding globally and building our company into a leading international branded and private brand snack company and providing integrated nut solutions to grow non-branded business at existing key customers in each distribution channel.

We appreciate your participation in the call and thank you for your interest in our company. I will now turn the call back over to Mike.

Michael Valentine

Thank you, Jeff. We will now open the call to questions from participants. Lauren, would be kind enough to please queue up the first question?

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Okay. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Francesco Pellegrino.

Francesco Pellegrino

Good morning, guys.

Michael Valentine

Good morning.

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Hi, Francesco.

Francesco Pellegrino

Thanks in advance. Obviously, there's a lot of moving parts to this quarter. Always seems [ph] like that every time you guys report a record quarter. But I just want to start off with the really impressive performance of Orchard Valley Harvest and Sunshine Country , the 21% increase, could you sort of put that in relation to maybe what it represented overall as a percentage of the company wide 9.4% overall volume increase [ph] percentage? Was it a small percentage?

Michael Valentine

Give me a moment here, Francesco.

Francesco Pellegrino

I always start off with a tough question.

Michael Valentine

Yes. I would say overall it represents almost about 10% of the total volume increase.

Francesco, while Mike is looking at specific numbers, this is Jeffrey, so the sales and marketing teams have done a great job on really finding the right product mix, the right pack sizes in the produce channel with our Orchard Valley Harvest brand, the Sunshine Country. Orchard Valley Harvest brand is our premium produce brand, a non-GMO, no preservatives and it’s really just perfect for that consumer looking for health and wellness in the produce category.

We’ve also had some success expanding it beyond just the produce category which is exciting news, partly attributes to the increase in the volume. And then our Sunshine Country produce brand is really focused as lower tier brand something where we could be more competitive from a pricing standpoint and that's been extremely successful as we’ve launched that.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Mr. Pellegrino, your line is open.

Francesco Pellegrino

So, back here again. So, Jeffrey, the only reason why I brought it up was, I know you don’t break out the brand and usually when you start seeing increases in volumes for these types of brands off of a small base, it's really not that impressive, but this 21% increase for these two brands, it sort of seemed that they are becoming more of a sizeable part of your branded business, is that correct?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

That is correct. And the main, big focus for our organization, absolutely.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. I noticed another thing you guys spoke about in the release from yesterday was it’s this phenomenon of your peanut shelling operation selling peanuts to other shellers, what's behind that?

Michael Valentine

There’s actually two things behind it. First of all, we are showing basically 40% more than what we have shelled in recent years. So we are generating more peanut crushing stock, peanuts that are intended to be crushed for oil. So that lifted sales in the commercial ingredients channel as a result of that. And then the second part is, we also – when you buy peanuts, they are basically segregated in the three categories and two of those categories are – peanuts aren’t suitable for human consumption without further processing and conditioning. Normally, we will perform that and then use those peanuts after those additional processing steps, but because we're selling so many peanuts, we are shelling so many more peanuts than we normally do, we did have to sell some off to other shellers. And that part of the sales of [indiscernible] peanuts accounted for roughly about 20% of our total volume growth in the quarterly comparison.

Francesco Pellegrino

This different type of peanut that you are shelling, is it superior or an inferior grade compared to just I guess your, what is it, the Virginia peanut?

Michael Valentine

No, no, it is – I am talking about runner peanuts and there’s neither superior or inferior to any other variety. In fact, they are the common variety. Just our increased shelling and our increased peanut purchases have and will result in additional peanut sales volume to other shellers.

Francesco Pellegrino

You keep on talking about the increase in the shelling volume, I would think that your peanut shelling operations would be a low margin business that as you take on more and more volume, you're able to create greater operational leverage, is that a correct way of thinking about it?

Michael Valentine

Sure. When you increase the amount of peanuts you shell by 40%, it’s going to have a meaningful fixed clause absorption benefit.

Francesco Pellegrino

All right. You guys had mentioned also some reduced merchandising activity that didn't occur in Q2 fiscal 2016, that did occur in the year ago period, is it like trade, the trade spending that you guys incurred last year like $2.2 million or this just an additional different type of expense?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

That’s exactly what it is. When we look at our Q2 of last year, a little bit overspent on trade on some key customers and so this was a result of looking at our trade spend overall and

trying to mitigate any kind of big increases the we saw last year at this time.

Francesco Pellegrino

So, if you are going to be pushing this trade spending into the third quarter, will it have maybe more of a focus on maybe Fisher snack and they performed in [ph] the category so significantly, is it – I wouldn’t think it’s private label business, what direction will the elevated trade spending that you are pushing on into the 3Q really be directed towards?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

We anticipate similar spending that we saw in Q3 of last year, some of the volume decline – a lot of it was attributed to promotional activity that didn’t occur in Q2. Some of that we do expect to see in Q3. But I would anticipate similar trade spend for Q3 and Q4 going forward.

Michael Valentine

Just to clarify, Francesco, the timing issue here is related much more to merchandising than it is to promotional activity. So we just didn't get the kind of display activity that we got last year and that will occur with one major retailer in Q3.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. I know you made some comments about the performance of the Fisher snack nut, Fisher snack nut declining in the category greater than your peers. I know you mentioned that it happened at a significant – at a single customer. Is there an ability to get this business back? What really caused the customer to switch away from the Fisher snack nut product at their locations?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

And so, we still have the major customer, a lot of it was due to fires [ph] in the category – for example, first not [ph] adding so many peanut promotions in a given period. So some of it was just different direction that the retailer took for that category for the quarter, some of it was the promotional activity that I mentioned that we pulled back on the trade spend, had a little bit of an impact on the volume we saw in that quarter. So some of it is timing and some of it is promotional trade spend, some of it was just the direction that the retailer took at that time period. And so we anticipate obviously as Mike mentioned from a timing standpoint on that promotional activity, seeing some of that come back in Q3.

Francesco Pellegrino

So just let me get this straight if I am thinking about this correctly. Overall, Fisher snack nut performed worse than the overall category, but when you isolate it at a certain retail location, you weren't necessarily underperforming to the degree in which you were for the overall category, but everyone at the single retailer just wasn’t pushing promotions across the board?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Correct.

Francesco Pellegrino

And they were moving to a different product. So if you are an [indiscernible] of nuts, they were maybe moving to something else like, I don’t know, some other healthy indulging alternative, is that a correct way of sort of interpreting it?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Yes, that's exactly right. If you were to take the Midwest, for example, is one of core markets. If you pull out this one specific customer from that market, actually our Fisher snack sales were 20% higher, 20% growth versus the category was only 4.4% growth. So taking out that one customer, we are still having success in building our Fisher snack program, ahead of the category. The goal really is to diversify that customer base and get less reliant on one to two major customers and find much better distribution, more retailers that won’t have – so if we do have a hiccup, it doesn’t hurt our brand as much from a volume standpoint.

Francesco Pellegrino

But it seems as if this could be an easy fix for 3Q as it was more of a timing thing?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Yes, I would agree with it.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. Jeffrey, you spoke about impact that lower almond and walnut prices could have, sort of what is the high pecan pricing? You guys are vertically integrated for that, what could we really start expecting with high pecan prices, is there an opportunity maybe for consumers to transition consumption patterns with different type of nuts? I would just think that a elasticity is really being pushed [ph] right now.

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Yes, you are absolutely right. And if you look at the almond, volume in almond prices, you are trying to hit that threshold where consumers are shifting from almond consumption to other snacks, other nuts specifically. We believe that – as we look at the rise in cashew consumption, the almond industry is losing some of those consumers to cashews because of the higher retail prices. And so, we see that both in the recipe category as well as the snack nut category. So with the higher prices for pecans, you can anticipate some lower consumption trends in pecans both in mix, snack mixes and as well as in the recipe category. And so, what our sales teams are focused on is really obviously as almond prices and walnut prices come down, working with our key customers, because they are just as concerned as we are with top line revenue. And so, looking at upsizing some of the bags, looking at other promotional activity that we can enhance to drive volume for those nut types and our sales and marketing teams are working closely on doing that now.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. And lastly, I want to ask – well, you are vertically integrated for pecan, so when do you see yourself getting aggressive in your pecan purchasing activity, especially with how elevated this part of the market is?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

Sure. So the markets – the harvests really start in September, October, we are in January now, so the harvest is actually almost finished. So, the harvest was a little bit earlier than normal. And so, we’ll be buying a little bit more through February into early March and then we will be done. And so that procurement is almost – we are probably about 90% finished at this point.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. And just the last thing I wanted to just touch with you guys, but I think that [ph] this might not have been a position you really have ever really been in since you consolidated your operations in [indiscernible] and you create a bunch of different synergies, but the free cash flow you guys have generated in the first half of fiscal 2016 is about $6.25. Usually, in the first half of the year, you generate some nice free cash flow which is then offset substantially in the third quarter as you finance your inventory purposes. I know you put a cautionary twist on the almonds and walnut prices coming in and how it’s going to -- just the changes it’s going to do in your average blended selling price, your average costs, average cost per pound. But it seems as if for the first time in maybe quite some time, you are going to be generating some significant free cash flow in the third quarter and you are generating significant free cash flow in the third quarter if you're being able to finance lower inventory purchases at lower cost and you could really be driving some really nice free cash flow in fiscal 2016. I guess my question for you is, what’s going to be the priority of your usages of cash? I know always paying off the revolver is going to be one of them, but you only have $13 million outstanding on your revolver. You always do a nice special dividend, but you do a nice special dividend every year, always looking at acquisitions. Just maybe want to hear what you guys are thinking about priority usages of cash going forward?

Michael Valentine

Well, first, Francesco, we don’t anticipate having positive cash flow in the third quarter

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay.

Michael Valentine

We never do. I think the better way to characterize that is our negative cash flow that the typically occurs in the third quarter will be lower than it has been in recent years, it’s probably a better way to look at that, but you are correct when you think about it further out that, at least, for the next few quarters lower almond and walnut prices will probably result in better cash flow than we’ve seen last year.

So that will ultimately manifest itself in a lower loan balance over the next couple of quarters than we saw last year, and then, of course, with that additional borrowing capacity, then we have to make some decisions and look at options on how to use that capacity, whether that’s to increase our investment, maybe CapEx, possibly higher dividend or even M&A.

Francesco Pellegrino

In regards to M&A, anything out there or maybe different category penetration that you would be looking at, is it just a nut business or would you extend into maybe some different ventures like we saw Snyder's-Lance take out Diamond. They are taking on the nut segment of Diamond’s operations, something they are not really that familiar with. We are seeing a lot of companies sort of going outside of their comfort zone. How willing are you guys to extend outside in nuts?

Jeffrey Sanfilippo

This is Jeffrey, Francesco. So we're always looking at M&A activity where we have our [ph] businesses that are up on the market are going to be coming to market, so something that we’re very interested in pursuing. We just have not found the right deal or the right business yet. When you look at the space, the salty snacks base continues to grow. When you look at the popcorn space right next to nuts, as a result of what we saw in popcorn, it’s one of the reasons we launched the Nut Exactly brand to try to expand the portfolio from just nuts to other salty snacks.

And we look at the nut butter category which is continuing to grow as well, at opportunities and the bar category, the snack bar category is another area that we look at that's growing. Somewhere [ph] where there is a nut is an inclusion in the product, but something else that it’s also category growth what we see in the future. So, those are the type of M&A things we look at and the categories.

Francesco Pellegrino

Okay. Going to be interesting to see how this occurs, but I appreciate the time guys. Thanks again.

Jeffery Sanfilippo

Okay. Thanks, Francesco.

Michael Valentine

Thank you.

Operator

There are no other questions in queue.

Michael Valentine

Okay, Lauren, thank you. Again, we want to thank everybody for their interest JBSS and this concludes the call for second quarter 2016 operating results.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the presentation and you may now disconnect. Have a great day.

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