Sun Communities' (SUI) CEO Gary Shiffman on Q4 2015 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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Sun Communities Inc. (NYSE:SUI)

Q4 2015 Earnings Conference Call

February 23, 2016 11:00 AM ET

Executives

Gary Shiffman – Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Karen Dearing – Chief Financial Officer

Analysts

Paul Adornato – BMO Capital Markets

Nick Joseph – Citigroup

Jana Galan – Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Drew Babin – Robert W. Baird & Company, Inc.

Ryan Burke – Green Street Advisors

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Sun Communities’ Fourth Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call, on 23 February, 2016.

At this time management would like me to inform you that certain statements made during this conference call, which are not historical facts, may be deemed forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although the company believes the expectations reflected in any forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, the company can provide no assurance that its expectations will be achieved. Factors and risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations are detailed in this morning’s press release form, and from time to time in the company’s periodic filings with the SEC.

The company undertakes no obligation to advise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this release. Having said that, I’d like to introduce management with us today, Gary Shiffman, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Karen Dearing, Chief Financial Officer.

Throughout today’s recorded presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator instructions]

I would now like to turn the conference over to Gary Shiffman. Please go ahead, sir.

Gary Shiffman

Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Sun’s 2015 fourth quarter conference call. Before we begin reviewing our results, I would like to take the time to acknowledge the Sun Team for their remarkable efforts throughout the year.

We’ve accomplished a great deal, reported impressive financial results and have firmly establish the path to continue profitably growing, our platform and generating consistent results for all of our stakeholders.

We’ve been continually working to strengthen the quality, geographic diversification and growth profile of our portfolio. Over the past three years, we’ve acquired and successfully integrated 90 manufactured housing and RV communities with over 33,000 sites located primarily in high growth area’s as well as retirement and vacation destinations.

As these properties enter the Sun’s platform, our team is able to create and extract additional value, by applying our operating expertise, which has translated into strong earnings and cash flow growth for our shareholders.

2015 was another transformative year for Sun. as we’ve successfully acquired and integrated 38 high quality manufactured housing and RV communities. Including 30 communities comprised of nearly 12,500 age-restricted sites. These additions not only deepen our market share within our core markets. They also alter the complexion of our portfolio, providing us with a more diversified exposure to multiple demographics across age groups. This diversification helps drive more consistent performance across varying economic cycles.

The transformation continued with the disposition of 20 communities, 16 of which was sold in the fourth quarter of 2015, which reduced our exposure to both slow growth and challenged locations. Since 2014, we have sold a total of 30 communities completing an important part of repositioning the portfolio for future growth.

Our team delivered another year of industry leading results with same site NOI growth of 8.8% in the quarter and 9.1% for the year. Contributing to these results were multiple drivers including a same site revenue growth of 7.4% and 7.6% for the quarter and year respectively, and the delivery of an additional 1,905 revenue producing sites, of which 1,505 were in the same site portfolio. These metrics are a testament to the value and level of customer service Sun delivers to its residents as well as Sun’s operational strengths.

Demand for our communities and the lifestyle it affords our residents and RV guest is evident given our occupancy levels and the impressive pace of total home sales. In the fourth quarter, total home sales increased 33.7% and increased 26.3% for the year. Total home sales volume is the highest in the Company’s history. Further, the demographics continue to favor our portfolio of homes as we provide home ownership and rental solutions with value, affordability and flexibility for tens of thousands of buyers and renters.

Our focus during the year, extended to the management of our balance sheet and ensuring that Sun has the financial flexibility and capacity to pursue a full menu of growth opportunities. This includes both bite-size or transformational acquisitions as well as the construction of additional expansion sites. To that end, in the fourth quarter, we raised $233 million of capital to replenish the capacity on our revolver, along with retiring $85 million of 2016 maturities.

Additional capital was also provided by the aforementioned disposition of 16 communities within the quarter generating $174 million in sales proceeds. The timing and impact of strengthening our balance sheet has had both near and long-term implications. In the near-term, the capital raise resulted in roughly $0.03 dilutive impact to our fourth quarter per share results.

Additionally, the sale of this 13 communities not included in guidance that took place in late November had a dilutive impact of roughly $0.01 for the fourth quarter. The impact of all of the fourth quarter dispositions will be dilutive by $0.045 per share in each quarter in 2016. This should begin to reverse as we move through the year and redeploy the capital through the acquisition of additional communities.

The long-term implication of our strength in balance sheet is that it positions Sun for sustainable positive future growth. During our extensive history as a public company dating back to 1993 and more importantly a manufacturer housing company dating back to 1970s, we have demonstrated capabilities for delivering consistent results to our disciplined capital allocation and operational expertise.

As we look ahead, we expect to build upon our past success by continuing to drive growth both organically and through accretive acquisitions which in turn will create additional shareholder value.

I’ll now turn the call over to Karen for a more detailed review of our results and financial position. Karen?

Karen Dearing

Thank you, Gary. For the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2015, we delivered funds from operations of $48.9 million or $0.81 per share, which is an increase of 17.4% as compared to $0.69 per share in the fourth quarter of 2014. Our results were impacted by the $233 million equity offering, we completed in the fourth quarter by roughly $0.03 per share. Additionally, the 13 communities that we sold in late November had an impact of approximately $0.01 per share.

For the 12 months ended December 31, 2015, funds from operations was $210.6 million or $3.63 per share, a 7.7% increase over the prior year. Our reported FFO also excludes certain items detailed in today’s press release. Revenues for the fourth quarter rose by 37.9% to $168.2 million an increase of $46.2 million over the same period in 2014. The growth in revenues for both the quarter and the year reflects the positive impact of the addition of the American Land Lease portfolio and other organic initiative we executed on during the year.

Revenues for the 12 months ended December 31, 2015 increased 39.3% to $674.7 million, from $484.3 million for the same period in 2014. Net operating income for the company grew 37.4% and 44.3% for the quarter and year-to-date respectively when compared to the same period last year, primarily reflecting the benefit of our acquisition and integration efforts as well as the benefits from our operating activity.

Now, let’s turn to a review of the major drivers of our results. On the operations front total portfolio occupancy for the 12 months ended December 31, 2015 was 95% compared to 92.6% at the end of 2014. During the fourth quarter of 2015, the company added 548 revenue producing sites bringing the total occupied site additions to 1,905. This increase marks our seventh consecutive year of occupancy gains. Revenue from same site increased by 7.6%, which is comprised of 3.3% weighted average rent increase and 270 basis point increase in occupancy over the prior year.

The occupancy increase includes the conversion of 480 transient RV sites to annual or seasonal sites and the filling of 490 expansion sites. Also transient RV and other property revenues contributed 170 basis point increase to the total same site revenue gain for the year. For the quarter, same site revenues grew 7.4% while expenses increased by 4.1% resulting in strong same site NOI growth of 8.8% and making this our ninth consecutive quarter of high single digit same site NOI growth. These results contributed to same site NOI growth for the year of 9.1%.

Our exceptional operational performance is occurring across both our MH communities and RV resorts. In our manufactured housing portfolio, same site revenues grew by 6.7% for the fourth quarter, when compared to the same period last year, which is primarily due to growth in occupancy of 220 basis points and rent increases of 3.4%. Total same site RV revenues increased by 10.7% when compared to the same quarter in 2014. The growth in total same site RV revenues for the year was 10.2%.

We continued to see an increase in return visit guest and are successfully attracting new first time visitors to our resorts evidenced by a 360 basis point expansion in occupancy and 5.4% growth in average daily rate for the year-over-year results. Our call center supported by digital, social and mobile initiatives has experienced a 30% year-over-year growth in incoming calls, which has resulted in a 15% increase in average net daily reservation dollars.

Another driver of our results is home sales. For 2015, new home sales were 273 as compared to 113 in 2014, an increase of over 140%. Pre-owned home sales for the year were 2,210 as compared to 1,853 in 2014, an increase of 19.3%, bringing total combined home sales to 2,483, a new single-year record and an increase of 26%. Margins continue to improve as well, at 16.2% for new home sales and 29.9% for pre-owned home sales with an average home sale price of $81,000 for new homes and $26,000 for pre-owned homes.

Also brokered home sales have increased from 618 in 2014 to 1,244 in 2015, which marks the highest re-sales in the company’s history. The number of home sales, broker re-sales and high per home selling prices are positive metrics indicating demand by high quality applicants looking for manufactured home ownerships in our communities.

Now I would like to turn to our transaction activity and balance sheet. We had an active year of adding to and pruning our portfolio, as we effectively recycled capital ensuring that we are constantly improving the quality, cash flow and growth profile of our assets. Specifically, we purchased 38 communities during the year for roughly $1.1 billion, which includes the second phase of the American Land Lease portfolio acquisitions, which contained 26 communities for approximately $743 million.

The 2015 performance of the total ALL portfolio exceeded expectations in both community NOI and sales performance and the six property Berger portfolio also had strong year one results. On the disposition side, we sold 20 communities for the year generating growth proceeds of approximately $225 million. 16 of the community sales occurred in the fourth quarter generating growth proceeds of $174 million. The largest of the disposition, a sale of 13 communities occurred in late November approximately $126 million of proceeds are currently in other assets and are designated for a 1031 Exchange.

All of the sold communities as Gary mentioned, no longer fit our growth profile and importantly have helped reduce exposure to some less desirable location including Indiana where we have cut our site count by 49% to 2,900 sites, while increasing our occupancy to over 90%. While the sale of these assets was the right decision for the long-term positioning of Sun, the Q4 dispositions will have an impact on our run rate for 2016 of roughly $0.045 per quarter.

We expect that this dilution will be partially offset throughout the year as we deploy the cash to acquire additional community. We ended the year with a strong financial foundation that will support future growth. As of the end of the year we had $425 million of capacity on our line of credit and $171 million in cash including the amount in other assets from the aforementioned sale.

We also took the opportunity to further delever by retiring $85 million of our 2016 secured mortgage maturities. We have $107 million in debt maturities remaining in the balance of 2016, and are exploring various refinance opportunities. The ultimate decision to retire or refinance is still being evaluated and will depend on our overall capital need for the year. Given the repositioning of the balance sheet, we ended the year with an interest coverage ratio of 3.1 times and a net debt to trailing 12-month EBITDA ratio of 6.6 times.

And now, turning to guidance details of which can be found in today’s earnings release. We anticipate FFO per share for the year of $3.72 to $3.79 and $0.87 to $0.89 for the first quarter. The guidance incorporates the dilutions on the Q4 asset sales and the cash that is on the balance sheet to start the year that we have not yet deployed.

Our 2016 guidance does not consider the impact of any acquisitions that have not yet been announced or any potential capital market activity. Absent the ALL transaction, our average acquisition run rate for the past three years has been $250 million, which is in line with our expectation for 2016. As any significant acquisition closes, we will update guidance accordingly. Notably, the guidance assumes same site NOI growth of 6.7% to 7.8%, a weighted average rent increase of roughly 3.5% strong home sales and the addition of expansion sites, the majority of which will be completed in the fourth quarter.

Additional details of our guidance can be found in our press release. Over the past four years, you’ve watched Sun grow dramatically from an asset base of roughly $2 billion in 2012 to $4.6 billion at the end of 2015. We have reduced leverage, strengthened our portfolio mix and geographic locations and have a proven record of effectively acquiring and integrating properties. All of which position us to continue to provide excellent operating results and value to our shareholders through 2016 and beyond.

With that, I’d like to turn the call back to the operator to begin the question-and-answer session. Operator?

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from Paul Adornato from BMO Capital Markets.

Paul Adornato

Thanks. So with the sale of the lesser occupied of properties, you now have total occupancy north of 95%. And so I was wondering how much higher that number can go?

Gary Shiffman

Thanks, Paul. It’s a good question and I wonder we’re very focused on as we – our guidance and looked at our prospects going from 2016 even beyond. We’re really comfortable that we can achieve similar occupancy gains through the next few years, primarily based on continued high demand for affordable housing, which is driving levels to what we consider as beyond historical levels. We’re experiencing community occupancy levels of 97%, 98% and greater today. And in fact, 111 of our manufactured housing communities have occupancy at 97% or greater and 90 of 111 are above 98%. So high demand taking our occupancies to new levels are giving us vacancy to fill up.

Some of this is a result of a newly realized benefit of the rental program with turns happening so quickly today. There is very little down time or vacancy where sites are not generating rent. Additionally since we – since virtually no rental homes actually move out of the community. Their points of occupancy if you will retained as the renters are converted into homeowners. There is no loss of revenue and no vacancy created. Additionally what I point to is that there are 9,000 transient sites with potential to be converted to permanent rentals that’s additional potential occupancy for us to gain and for every 1,000 expansion sites over a point of vacancy, or inversely a percentage of occupancy gain potential is created.

And then again, I point to the fact that of course when we have higher occupancy that generally translates into higher rental increases. So from where we’re at currently in the portfolio to where we’re viewing full potential we have a good on average three to four points to gain and then a point in expansion and then easily points available through conversion of RV sites into permanent sites for the homes stay and all, all 12-month of the year.

Paul Adornato

Great, thanks. Just two quick follow-ups based on your response. And that is on the rental turns, is that your operations doing better on the turn or is it just much higher demand that you’re able to fill the sites – the rentals that much more quickly?

Gary Shiffman

Yes. That is consistent for the turns how they’ve been historically, but as the communities have filled and as we’ve had the rentals convert into homeowners all that’s happening is more historic levels of 96% full occupancy looking to – look like 97%, 98% and even 99% today.

Karen Dearing

I think that demand for the rental program is still very significant, probably I think I’ve mentioned that we have 47,000 applications and I’d say 80% of them, 85% of them are for applications to live in the rental program. So demand is quite high and we do quick turnover, so that is really leading to that higher stabilized occupancy level.

Paul Adornato

And I guess maybe the same sort of question with respect to the conversion of transients. Is that due to better marketing efforts on your part? Better demand, a combination of both? Maybe you could tell us a little bit about your marketing efforts there.

Karen Dearing

So I think it is a I think it is a combination of many things. First and foremost, I think it’s a testament to the quality of the RV communities that we have and the amenities that we have for guests to enjoy there. So as we’ve taken over a lot of these rental communities over the past several years, the amenities we’ve added, the attractions we’ve added have really increased guests at the resort. And once they do a transients’ day, they like the resort so much they been converting even more so to annual seasonal guests. And certainly the operations group is highly focused on making that happen.

Paul Adornato

And maybe just one more with respect to your disposition of some of the family or all-age communities. Is that a statement about all-age versus age-restricted or is it just geographical? In the past, it’s – the all-age has been a good business for you. And was wondering if now we’re seeing a divergence of the two businesses?

Gary Shiffman

No, it is not a reflection of any difference in strategy. It just reflects, as Karen shared in her remarks, the asset management and decision to shed properties that we don’t think have the greatest long-term growth potential for the portfolio and the shareholders. So in total, what we completed in 2015 was our strategic plan to dispose of 30 properties: so 20 in 2015 and 10 in 2014. So that program is completed. It related to specific properties and we’ve grown our age-restricted ratio in our portfolio from under 10% to 25%. So I think that we are very comfortable with where we are at today. We believe that having the right balance between age and age-restricted communities really provides the best avenue for riding through all economic cycles.

And as we’ve shared before, we find that there is greater pricing elasticity in all-age communities. We can get higher rental increases in good economic times and equal to or slightly greater rental increases as compared to age-restricted communities in more challenging economic times though.

On the flipside, we do experience about 100 basis points difference in the home turnover, where the homes actually leave our communities, between the two segments. Approximately 2% of the homes turn over in all-age communities versus 1% in age-restricted. But having the mix and balance that we have currently leaves us very comfortable that we are well positioned for really all economic cycles. So we’re very comfortable.

Paul Adornato

Great, thank you.

Operator

We’ll take our next question from Nick Joseph from Citi.

Nick Joseph

Thanks. Can you give more details on the November property sales? What was the cap rate and what was the buyer profile?

Gary Shiffman

Sure. I think it was a mix of public and private and the cap rates ranged from 5.8% to 6.9% amongst the 20 properties sold in fourth quarter.

Nick Joseph

And is that just for the November or is that including the previously announced dispositions as well?

Gary Shiffman

Those numbers are for the 20 – let me get that 13 and 3; 16 dispositions that took place fourth quarter.

Nick Joseph

Okay, thanks. And then given the meaningful impact of the November asset sales on 4Q and 2016 results, why did you not put out a release on their closing at the time?

Karen Dearing

As you know, Nick, we have – and as we’ve discussed on prior calls our intention to dispose of these properties, we have been fine-tuning our portfolio through those strategic dispositions and trying to look to redeploy that capital for higher growth. The sale of these 13 properties that took place late wasn’t not-material to our total assets. And although it did have a minor impact to Q4, we just felt it made more sense to disclose it in the context of the full-year guidance along with everything else that was occurring in the rest of the portfolio.

Nick Joseph

Thanks. And then finally, just in terms of the rental program. You talked about the strong demand in the home sales and the percentage of renters in the portfolio decreased meaningfully to 13.5%. So what percentage of the portfolio occupancy overall would you ideally like to see as renters?

Gary Shiffman

I think we look for it to decline in our core portfolio rates, as we’ve shared, that as we get to the higher occupancy levels, it will decrease 8% to 10%. The goal is to see the rental program to be used only for things related to expansion, where we can accelerate and increase NOI on a more rapid basis and get the communities and the expansions to stabilize faster. And of course, then convert those renters at 8% to 10% a year into homeowners.

So we saw 210 basis point decline from 2014 to 2015. It’s a net decline in combination with dispositions, expansions, and acquisitions. I think in 2016 guidance, we look for a decrease of about 4% overall in rental units and communities that are 97% and above. And so we don’t see any further significant year-over-year growth in our core portfolio unless it’s related to some of the lower occupied communities, expansions, or new acquisitions.

Nick Joseph

Thanks.

Gary Shiffman

Sure.

Operator

And we’ll take a question from Jana Galan from Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Jana Galan

Thank you. Gary, I was hoping you could comment on besides the acquisition pipeline, maybe pricing, types of assets you’re seeing? And whether you think you may see more opportunities this year, given the recent weakness in the CMBS market?

Gary Shiffman

Sure, thank you. They are all good questions and Sun certainly has been and remains an acquisitive company with an acquisitive strategy. I would share with everyone that we have a very strong pipeline of acquisitions under review. It is very similar in character and nature to what the pipeline has looked like over the past three to four years. When you look to an average of what we’ve acquired over the last three to four years, factoring out the large portfolio acquisitions, we’ve averaged about $250 million per year in acquisitions, so basically onesies and twosies.

And I would expect similar growth through acquisitions as we work through that pipeline. That said, I would just point out that we have worked very, very hard over the last four or five years to begin to build what we believe is best-in-class platform; both manufactured housing and RV-wise. And we’re very selective at this point as to what we are reviewing and what we’ll acquire and we won’t be buying just for the sake of buying. So it will continue to be the type of assets we’ve been acquiring over the last four years. And when we look at cap rate expectations, I think one of the things that we can do, as Nick asked, we can look at the most recent 16 dispositions ranging from 5.8% to 6.9% to kind of set the stage for what those type of assets have been trading at.

So I think that’s helpful when you consider the higher quality type properties that Sun is acquiring. And as single assets generally, they trade within a 50 basis point range of a fixed cap rate. And for both the manufactured housing and RV communities for Sun, it’s about finding the right assets that when well managed by Sun’s team, they can create significant incremental growth in NOI within a three-year period of time and therefore really build the cap rate up from where we acquire them to where they would be valued in that 36-month period of time.

Jana Galan

Thank you. And maybe just on your outlook for home sales in 2016. Based on the guidance, it looks like it should be another record year. Just curious if there’s any kind of macroeconomic data you’re looking at that could potentially kind of lower your outlook there?

Karen Dearing

No. I don’t think that we would expect any macroeconomic event to decline our expectations. We are indicating, as you mentioned, an increase in new home sales of about 25% next year and an overall increase in home sales of about 7%. We believe new entry on home sales trends will continue. We are ahead of inventory sales year-over-year in January by 33%. And ultimately, I think, as we’ve shared on many calls and in our investor presentations, the cost differential between site-built housing and manufactured housing is just too wide. We just don’t expect that to be closing at all.

Jana Galan

Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And we’ll go to Drew Babin from Robert W. Baird.

Drew Babin

Good morning.

Karen Dearing

Good morning.

Drew Babin

Most of my questions have been asked, but had a couple quick ones. The guidance for 1,750 to 1,850 increase in revenue-producing sites in 2016, is that a number that is reflected kind of fully within your guidance from one end to the other? You know, obviously adding occupied, new revenue-producing sites can drive a lot of occupancy upside. Would you say that that is fully reflected in your guidance for this year or could that be a potential source of upside as that’s built out?

Karen Dearing

Drew, let me try to answer that for you. Yes, it is in our guidance fully. Basically, we are looking at about 1,850 sites that – it’s around 400 expansion sites being filled. Those are the sites that we actually brought on in 2015. The expansion sites in 2016, there’s about 1,000 sites going on. Those really aren’t going to come on until the fourth quarter. So those sites really don’t have an impact in 2015 – I mean 2016, sorry.

Drew Babin

Okay, that’s helpful. And then also, too, just if you sell more properties or should there be a new kind of sources of capital coming in, are there any issuances of preferred OP units, convertible securities like that that might be – that you might take a look at repurchasing or tendering for?

Gary Shiffman

I don’t think other than something unexpected coming in the area of dispositions, I would share that we have completed our strategic plan to sell properties. Of course, we would always look at any opportunity that came our way. On the capital side, there is nothing else that we would share with the marketplace at this time. However, I’d suggest that Karen and all of management is always looking from a strategic standpoint on what we could do in the capital marketplaces to improve the balance sheet. But nothing in particular we’d point to now.

Drew Babin

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

And we will take a question from Ryan Burke from Green Street Advisors.

Ryan Burke

Thank you. Gary, I wanted to clarify on the cap rates that you’ve been quoting on the dispositions. Are those nominal or economic?

Gary Shiffman

Those would be – I’m thinking through – Nominal, yes.

Ryan Burke

Nominal. And on forward or trailing NOIs?

Gary Shiffman

Those would be on trailing 12 months.

Ryan Burke

Okay, trailing 12 months. Okay, thanks. A separate question. Karen, is it correct that the first phase of the Green Courte properties roll into the same-store pool in 2016?

Karen Dearing

Both phases of the Green Courte portfolio roll into same-store in 2016. The second phrase was all but closed on January 6. We received revenue reflective as of January 1. We had a full-year estimate.

Ryan Burke

Thanks. Do you have a feel for what impacts the roll-in of those properties had to your same-store revenue guidance for 2016? I’m essentially trying to get a feel for what revenue growth for the 2015 pool will be in 2016.

Karen Dearing

I don’t have – we haven’t stratted it that way, Nick. So I’m sorry; I just don’t have that information in front of me. I mean Ryan, sorry.

Ryan Burke

No problem. I can – I’ll circle back on that. Last question, probably for Gary. In terms of financing for buyers of manufactured homes, the FHFA appears to be moving in a direction that would help buyers that live outside of Land Lease communities, but not those that live inside of Land Lease communities. Did that outcome surprise you and can you speak a little bit to what level of competition you typically see from manufactured homes that aren’t within communities that sit outside of communities on single plots of land?

Gary Shiffman

Yes, I’ll try not to be too cynical about the GSE financing programs. But after 30-plus years of being in the industry, recognizing that they have a responsibility to finance all forms of housing, including affordable housing, I am a bit cynical because they have not as of yet come forth with a program that has benefited communities. So it doesn’t surprise me that we don’t see any change to that in the near future.

Obviously, if there were some change – and there was some discussions six, 12 months ago – we’d be very interested in following up on it. With regard to financing programs outside of communities, they’re generally referred to as site home packages. They’ve existed for the 30-plus years that I’ve been in the industry. And again, it is a different customer and a different product line than the proposition that we have in the rental community. So we do not experience any competition from that type of financing on the land/home package.

Ryan Burke

Okay, thanks. And I’ll slip one more question in. There’s one or two portfolios out there that are rumored to being shopped that are, call it, $1 billion-plus in value. Your earlier comments would suggest that you might not be interested in those portfolios, but can you give us a feel for your level of interest, if any?

Gary Shiffman

Yes, certainly. We shared, I think, third quarter commentary that there have in fact been several large portfolios that have come to market. Sun has had the opportunity to consider and review them and they were not of a high enough quality asset based on our current platform to pursue those portfolios. That being said, there are a handful of high- quality portfolios that are out there. We do continually remain in contact with those portfolio owners, as they do fit the character and nature of our portfolio. But at this time, there’s really nothing to share with regard to those portfolios.

Ryan Burke

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Company management for any closing remarks.

Gary Shiffman

We’d like to just thank everybody for participating on today’s fourth quarter call. Both Karen and I and other members of management remain available throughout the day to follow-up with any questions. And we certainly look forward to announcing first quarter’s performance on our next quarterly conference call. Thank you, Operator.

Operator

And this does conclude the Sun Communities 2015 fourth quarter conference call. Thank you for your participation. Have a good day.

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