Renasant's (RNST) CEO Robinson McGraw on Q1 2016 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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Renasant Corporation (NASDAQ:RNST)

Q1 2016 Earnings Conference Call

April 27, 2016 10:00 ET

Executives

John Oxford - Vice President, Corporate Communications

Robinson McGraw - Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Mike Ross - Central Region President and Chief Commercial Officer

Mitch Waycaster - Senior Executive Vice President and Bank Chief Administrative Officer

Kevin Chapman - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Jim Gray - Executive Vice President

Analysts

Katherine Miller - KBW

Emlen Harmon - Jefferies

Michael Rose - Raymond James

Brad Milsaps - Sandler O'Neill

Kevin Fitzsimmons - Hovde Group

Andy Stapp - Hilliard Lyons

Operator

Good morning and welcome to the Renasant Corporation 2016 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to John Oxford with Renasant Corporation. Please go ahead.

John Oxford

Thank you, Laura. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Renasant Corporation’s 2016 first quarter earnings webcast and conference call. Participating in this call today are members of Renasant’s executive management team. Before we begin, let me remind you that some of our comments during this call maybe forward-looking statements which involve risk and uncertainty. A number of factors could cause actual results to differ materially from the anticipated results or other expectations expressed in the forward-looking statements. Those factors include, but are not limited to interest rate fluctuation, regulatory changes, portfolio performance and other factors discussed in our recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We undertake no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results over time.

Now, we are turning the call over to E. Robinson MacGraw, Chairman and CEO of Renasant Corporation. Robin?

Robinson McGraw

Thank you, John. Good morning, everyone and thank you again for joining us today. Our first quarter ‘16 financial results reflect a strong start to what we expect to be a great year. We are fortunate to operate an economically vibrant market and our team is focused on capitalizing on opportunities throughout our footprint. Our results include annualized linked quarter non-acquired loan growth of 25% and a continuation of improving returns on profitability metrics as our return on average tangible assets was 1.20% and our return on tangible equity was 15.58%. Additionally, we are pleased to announce an increase in our quarterly dividend which boosts our annual cash dividend from $0.68 to $0.72.

Looking at our financial performance for the first quarter of ‘16, net income was $21.2 million or basic earnings per share of $0.53 and diluted earnings per share of $0.52 as compared to $15.2 million or basic and diluted EPS of $0.48 for the first quarter of ‘15. Excluding the impact of after-tax merger and conversion expenses incurred during each quarter, basic and diluted EPS were $0.54 for the first quarter of ‘16 compared to basic and diluted EPS of $0.49 for the first quarter of ‘15.

Focusing on our balance sheet, total assets at March 31, ‘16 were approximately $8.15 billion as compared to $7.93 billion on a linked quarter basis. Total loans, including loans acquired in previous acquisitions or in FDIC-assisted transactions, which we collectively referred to as acquired loans, were up 12% on an annualized rate of $5.57 billion at March 31, ‘16 as compared to $5.41 billion at December 31.

Breaking down first quarter net loan growth by market, our central division which consists of Alabama and Georgia grew loans by 21%. Our Mississippi markets increased loans by 3% and our Tennessee markets grew loans by 6%. In Georgia during the first quarter of ‘16, we grew loans by 15% annualized.

Included in the loan growth just discussed are loans generated within our specialty lines. For the quarter loan growth from specialty lines totaled $35 million of which $11 million came from healthcare, $8 million from asset based lending and $7 million came from equipment financing. Excluding acquired loans, loans grew at an annualized rate of 25.62% to $4.07 billion at March 31, ‘16 as compared to $3.83 billion at year end. Total deposits were $6.43 billion at March 31, ‘16 as compared to $6.33 billion at December 31. Our cost of funds were 37 basis points for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to 43 basis points for the same quarter in ’15. Our non-interest bearing deposits averaged approximately $1.32 billion or approximately 21% of average deposits for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to approximately 19% of average deposits for the first quarter of ‘15.

Looking at our capital ratios at year end, our tangible common equity was 7.52%. Our Tier 1 leverage capital ratio was 9.19%. Our common equity Tier 1 risk based capital ratio was 9.88%. Our Tier 1 risk based capital ratio was 11.38%. And our total risk based capital ratio was 12.17%. Net interest income was $70.1 million for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to $48.8 million for the first quarter of ‘15. Additional interest income recognized in connection with the acceleration of pay downs and payoffs from acquired loans was $1.6 million in the first quarter of ‘16 and increased net interest by 11 basis points compared to $590,000 and a 5 basis point increase in net interest margin during the same period in ‘15. During the fourth quarter of ‘15 we increased net interest margin by 21 basis points after recognizing $3.61 million and accelerated accretion.

Our non-interest income is derived from diverse lines of business which primarily consists of mortgage, wealth management and insurance revenue along with income from deposit and loan products. Total non-interest income was $33.3 million for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to approximately $21.9 million for the first quarter of ‘15 and $31.4 million for the fourth quarter of ‘15. Our overall growth in non-interest income for the first quarter as compared to the same period in prior year is primarily attributable to the Heritage acquisition and growth in our mortgage lending. Non-interest expense was $69.8 million for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to the $47.3 million for the first quarter of ‘15. We have recognized merger expenses of approximately $948,000 and $478,000 during the first quarter of ‘16 and ‘15 respectively.

Looking at our credit quality metrics and trends, at March 31, ‘16, we reported provision for loan losses of $1.8 million for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to $1.1 million for the first quarter of ‘15. Annualized net charge-offs as a percentage of average loans declined to 10 basis points for the first quarter of ‘16 as compared to 11 basis points for the same quarter in ‘15. The allowance for loan losses as a percentage of total loans was 1.05% at March 31, ‘16 as compared to 1.29% at March 31, ‘15. Excluding acquired assets non-performing assets decreased 24.7% to $27 million at March 31, ‘16 as compared to $35.6 million at March 31, ‘15. Non-performing loans were $14.2 million or 35 basis points of total non-acquired loans at March 31, ‘16 as compared to $18.9 million or 58 basis points of total non-acquired loans at March 31, ‘15.

Early stage delinquencies or loans 30 days to 89 days past due as a percentage of total loans were 17 basis points at March 31, ‘16 as compared to 37 basis points at March 31, ‘15. We see many positives on the horizon specifically healthy commercial loan pipelines and sustainable mortgage loan pipelines would support our annual loan growth goals, both of which should drive continued revenue growth.

In closing my prepared remarks, it’s worth nothing that on April 1, ‘16 we completed our merger with KeyWorth Bank, a Georgia-based bank with 6 offices in the Atlanta metropolitan area and approximately $399 million in assets, $284 million in total loans and $347 million in total deposits as of March 31, ‘16. We are now working toward a successful conversion with KeyWorth, which we anticipate completing during the second quarter of ‘16.

Now, I will turn the call back over to Laura for any questions that anyone may have.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Katherine Miller of KBW.

Katherine Miller

Hey, good morning everyone.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning, Katherine.

Katherine Miller

A question on first on mortgage, can you give us just a little bit of color around the higher mortgage revenue this quarter maybe what were the origination volumes and then how much of the revenue this quarter was just from gain on sale versus some hedging activity?

Robinson McGraw

Katherine, I am going to let Mitch Waycaster and Jim Gray answer those questions.

Katherine Miller

Okay, thanks.

Mitch Waycaster

Yes, Katherine, before Jim highlights the results and success of the mortgage page on this past quarter, I wanted to note that recently the former Co-Presidents and several production and support employees of the Heritage Bank mortgage division left our company. However, due to recent hires and ongoing recruiting efforts in both Heritage Bank mortgage markets and Renasant legacy markets, we are confident that we will be able to offset much of the projected loss of production volume which with the reduction in overhead related to the departed employees and anticipated margin improvement on the projected replacement volume, we believe that we will be able to mitigate the financial impact. It should also be noted in addition to continued recruiting efforts, we are moving forward with our plan to consolidate the two mortgage divisions. And effective April 1, Heritage Bank mortgage was re-branded as Renasant Mortgage and the conversion to a common loan origination platform is well underway and should be substantially complete by mid-May. And also note the combined Renasant Mortgage division will continue under the leadership of David Mays, who has been President of Renasant Mortgage for over 11 years. And Jim, if you want to highlight some of the production for the quarter and the current pipeline?

Jim Gray

Sure, Mitch. Katherine, our volume for the first quarter was $524 million, which was down from our volume in the fourth quarter of $562 million. However, the encouraging thing to us was that the way that volume broke down for the quarter was $139 million in January, a $169 million in February, and $227 million in March. And so obviously during the first quarter, you have a seasonal slowdown, but that pickup typically takes place in April and we started seeing that pickup take place a little earlier this year and that $227 million is pretty much on track with what we have needed to do to meet our production goals for this year. The breakdown between wholesale and retail was roughly 31% wholesale, 69% retail, which is pretty much in line with where we have been in prior quarters and that’s kind of where we see that mix in the kind of that 70:30 to 60:40 range. The breakdown between purchase and repar, we were 67% purchase, 33% repar that’s exactly the same as it was for the fourth quarter. Although, I think you will see the purchase percentage pickup as we are getting more into the buying season.

Our margin was strong for the quarter at roughly about 2% margin, which is up a little from the fourth quarter. The kind of the breakdown of the income as far as related to gain on sale and pipeline mark. I don’t have the exact breakdown on that, but we did have some pipeline mark, our pipeline at the end of the fourth quarter was roughly $200 million we are running now around $300 million in pipeline, so there has been some, but we are being able to sustain that pipeline as Robin mentioned in his remarks. So, with current rates where they are even we are anticipating a little increase in rate would go we can sustain those pipelines. Mitch did mention in our efforts to replace some of the volume that we do anticipate that we will lose causes some of those departures. Really not anything we are doing special or new because of that is just our ongoing efforts we have had hires during the first quarter in the Atlanta and the Birmingham markets. We are talking to probably 15 to 20 producers and TPO reps within our footprint and that’s just an ongoing effort. We are always doing that, so a lot of opportunity there. One of the markets that we will really be focusing on in the near future once we get through the conversion is our Florida market because we have a lot of potential down there. We have originators in the Florida market and believe we have a lot of potential there to increase our presence down there on the mortgage side.

Katherine Miller

I think the information is very helpful. And then maybe switching over to expenses too, expenses were flat linked quarter, which was great to see with increased revenue. So, can you help us think about the pace for expense growth going into this year partly just given loan growth should still be strong, mortgage should still continue to grow and then you have got some hire expenses with nearing the $10 million [indiscernible] can you help us think about a good expense growth rate moving through this year?

Kevin Chapman

Katherine, this is Kevin. I was just looking at expenses and excluding KeyWorth, as Robin mentioned, we closed on KeyWorth April 1. KeyWorth will add somewhere between $2.5 million to $3 million in our quarterly run rate just to their additional expenses. So excluding that increase, we do anticipate our expenses to be relatively flat during the year. A couple of things just in Q1 salaries and employee benefits were up compared to Q4 about $400,000 to $500,000, just purely due to FICA taxes. So as we get through the year, that expense will elevate. And so we do expect our expenses to be relatively flat. That doesn’t mean that we will stop hiring producers. We continue to see opportunities to pick-up team members and producers throughout the system, expect us to be proactive in that and building out our teams throughout all of our markets. But that should lead to an expectation of higher revenue growth as well.

Katherine Miller

And is that expectation to continue to hire baked into your expectations for flat growth or if you do pick-up a couple of extra teams, then that may bump up the expense base a little bit?

Kevin Chapman

It may call that to be a little bit higher. But again we would be making investments as we have done in the past making investments in opportunities to grow revenues in the future.

Katherine Miller

Understood. Alright, great. Thank you.

Kevin Chapman

Thanks.

Operator

I am sorry. Our next question will come from Emlen Harmon of Jefferies.

Emlen Harmon

Hi, good morning guys.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning Emlen.

Emlen Harmon

The loan growth this quarter I think looks really strong and what tends to be I would say seasonally challenging quarter, Robin you mentioned the commercial pipeline looked pretty good, I mean kind of what are the pipelines telling you about the rest of this year and was there anything kind of unique in this first quarter, I would say relative to what you would typically see?

Robinson McGraw

Emlen I am going to let Mitch talk about pipeline and Mike talk a little bit about specialty lines and the geographies.

Mitch Waycaster

Emlen at the beginning of the quarter the 30 day loan pipeline stood at $150 million, that compares to $145 million last quarter and $85 million same period prior year. If you break the $150 million down by state 18% would be in Tennessee, 16% in Alabama, 33% in Georgia, 21% in Mississippi and 12% in Florida. This pipeline should result in approximately $53 million in growth in non-acquired loans within 30 days and certainly of the $150 million we continue to experience a strong pipeline as we enter the third quarter and expect continued strong loan growth. Mike do you want to…?

Mike Ross

Yes. Emlen and as far as your question on what we saw in the first quarter, we were in recognition that we have – our growth has resulted in us being a much larger bank. We actually began some calling efforts back about a year ago on some relationships we had with some larger businesses and we were able to capitalize on landing some of those opportunities in some of our metropolitan markets. So, that’s the primary reason why we got off to such a quick start this year versus prior years. The other part was as you heard Mitch and Robin referred to we did have a solid quarter in terms of our specialty businesses. They contributed about $35 million in growth just from those specialty businesses. So, yes, those are in the process of continuing to ramp up. We have invested in those businesses and seeing good solid performance out of those. And we anticipate that, that to continue as our pipelines look still very deep.

Emlen Harmon

Got it. Thanks. And then Kevin, I guess we don’t get all the balance sheet details until we see the Q, but just give us a sense of how you thought the balance sheet reacted to the first rate hike just kind of within your expectations or were there any surprises that you saw there?

Mike Ross

Not a lot of surprises. Our sensitivity was in line with what we anticipated. We saw a pickup just in annual run-rate of net interest income due to the rate increase upwards of $1.5 million to $2 million. And that’s what we were anticipating given that it was 0.25 point of an increase. Just how we are managing our balance sheet is just continually trying to become more asset sensitive, but we are not trying to predict our time when the Fed is going to move rates, but we know that we are going to have come all above and get into a higher rate environment in the future. So, we are continually focused on more variable rate loans as well as our continued focus on the stable sources of funding, so reducing reliance on top money deposits or wholesale type borrowings.

Emlen Harmon

Great, thanks. I appreciate the question. See you guys next week.

Robinson McGraw

Yes, I am looking forward to it.

Operator

And our next question will come from Michael Rose of Raymond James.

Michael Rose

Hey, good morning guys.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning, Mike.

Michael Rose

I just want to follow-up on the expense question. I think you have said FICO was $400,000 to $500,000. So, if I layer in KeyWorth, which I think you said is going to add about 2.5 to 3, it looks like we are at about a 71 million to 71.5 million run rate, I just want to make sure that’s kind of the math that you guys are looking at as well from a run-rate perspective?

Robinson McGraw

That is.

Michael Rose

Okay. And then Mike had mentioned some hires that were brought on last year that’s helped the loan growth, how should we think about the pace of hires as we moved here obviously Florida is a new market for you all. Are you looking to hire there and maybe kind of what’s the hiring pipeline will look like at this point? Thanks.

Robinson McGraw

Michael, I will take that specifically on Florida. We have actually just completed around of new hires in Florida and if you will recall when Mitch started talking about pipeline we have seen our pipeline in Florida as far as our percentage of the total pipeline move up rather significantly this quarter and that’s primarily the result of those new hires coming in and generate some significant activity. I think what you are going to see is that you will see a good bit of activity in lending in Florida in the next few quarters. And I do want to reiterate too or make sure it’s clear that the people we have added in Florida are not a net increase in our expense run-rate, they are actually replacements of some other team members. So, we should see the efficiency of our Florida operation continue to improve.

Michael Rose

Alright. So, some upgrading of talent there. Great. And then just one more for me, are you guys seeing kind of I know you don’t really have any energy exposure to speak of and gone, are you guys seeing any sort of cracks on the credit side, are you seeing any aggressive behavior that would cause you to think that maybe the credit cycle turn is here and maybe you would want to start growing reserves a little bit more, I know your core credit quality is good at this point, but how should we kind of think about what you guys are seeing on the credit front?

Robinson McGraw

Michael, for the most part, if you look at our credit metrics, they are going the opposite way, they are going in a positive direction and we are continuing to provide as you will note this quarter we provided more than charge-offs to provide for some of the loan growth that we have had. So, in that particular regard I feel like that from our point of view, we are not seeing any cracks on the credit side. Another thing I was going to point out to Mike was talking about the most part in Florida those replacements, so the expense rate wont’ change. Above the same token as we add these new mortgage originators, you are not going to see an increase in expenses those to the most part of replacements also.

Michael Rose

Got it.

Robinson McGraw

Michael…?

Mike Ross

Kevin, just building on what Robin said not only expenses, but just going back to the credit quality, I would just build on and just remind you what we discussed last quarter as we talked about just what we went through in light of some of the concerns industry wide about energy, although we don’t have direct energy exposure. We were going through an entire process of trying to challenge not only what we knew, but really what we should know within our entire loan portfolio and that’s really the mindset that we have is not try to manage – not try to manage through cycles based on the risk of the day, but really start to manage all of our risks throughout the year throughout time. To Robin’s point on the provision the $1 8 million that we reported in provision, if you look at our internal watch list which aren’t in the press release, but information will be in the Qs, we continue to see declines in our internal watch list. You see what’s happening as far as the NPLs, the 30 days to 89 days past due, all of those continue to decline. We continue to see improvement in our credit quality, but at the same time we do think it’s prudent to reserve for our growth. And so that’s largely what that $1.8 million in provision relates to. Yes, there is growth that we had during the quarter.

Robinson McGraw

Going back to just not to beat the dead horse, but our coverage ratio on non-acquired loans is over 300% now for the first time in several years. And another point that because what you just said in anticipation of audit cracks in the credit and in the underwriting process, I ask our Co-Chief Credit Officer to go back and look at those credits that said don’t reach their level and they went back and looked at our credits that where proved over the first quarter that where $1.5 million and above to see if in fact they would have had any different insight to those credits than our Senior Credit Officers did. And to a credit they felt very comfortable with all those credits and underwriting of those credits. So that’s going back to Kevin’s point, we are very mindful of that fact that there could be some possibilities and we have seen some others that may be loosening a little bit. And we would be mindful of that and very conscious of that. For that reason we are being very stringent about not changing our underwriting.

Michael Rose

Thanks. That’s great color. Thanks for taking my questions.

Robinson McGraw

You bet. Thanks Mark.

Operator

And next we have a question from Brad Milsaps with Sandler O'Neill.

Brad Milsaps

Hi good morning.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning Brad.

Brad Milsaps

Hi Kevin, it looks like you may have changed like at least how you present some of our fee income line items, specifically maybe mortgage. And then also I wanted to ask other income was up quite a bit linked quarter, just kind of curious if there is anything specific in there or there may have been an offset also in non-interest expense that would offset some of that fee income, but just any kind of color there on some of the components of what may have changed in fee income would be great?

Robinson McGraw

Yes. So let’s start with the other non-interest income first. Really the increase that you see in Q1 compared to Q4 toss back to contingency income related to our insurance company. Brad, if you remember that contingency income it all comes in Q1 last year, but a little bit low compared to historical. Given the fact that in Tupelo, Tupelo had a tornado, so loss experiences were higher which led to contingency income being a little bit lower last year. The large increase that you see in Q1 compared to Hartford is just contingency income. And Mitch I think that number was about $700,000.

Mitch Waycaster

That’s correct.

Robinson McGraw

Brad, a couple of other things that we did in non-interest income this quarter compared to previous quarter is historically we had shown gains on selling mortgage loans just as a standalone category. And then other ancillary fees origination fees, closing fees we showed that up in the fees and commissions line item. Going back to our 10-K we actually lumped all of that into a one line item mortgage banking income, which we think gives a much better indication of the total income that’s driven out of the mortgage group. With mortgage they may – what they are targeting is a set net margin and so they have flexibility in what they offer in rate versus what they collect on origination fee. But two ultimately net down to a net margin number that reflects the true revenue driven off with the sale of that loan. So we felt it more appropriate to put all of those line – all of those revenue line items into one which is that mortgage banking income line item. So that’s really the main re-class that you see. Another one I have mentioned is we did separately break out gains on our SBI loans. This is a division that we have – we have had for several years and been ramping up production and are starting to see the gains materialize to the point that they are significant enough to breakout in the non-interest income section. So we – this quarter we broke that out separately as well historically that was another non-interest income as well. But we did go back and adjust the prior periods in the press release so that you have comparable numbers on a quarter.

Brad Milsaps

Right, that’s helpful. Thanks for the color on that. And then just on expenses, you gave some good guidance there and it sounds like there is going to be a lot of moving parts with mortgage, would your sort of flattish expense guidance ex-KeyWorth, would that also be excluding if you do – if your mortgage production does pick-up in the seasonally stronger months, obviously you are going to have more variable comp or would that be exclusive of that?

Robinson McGraw

Yes. It would – great question. So the $71 million run rate if mortgage has a strong – stronger than – stronger quarter than what they had in Q1 there will be some variability in that costs, but also you will see increases in the revenue to offset that costs.

Brad Milsaps

Absolutely. Thank you, guys.

Robinson McGraw

Thank you, Brad.

Operator

And the next question comes from Kevin Fitzsimmons of Hovde Group.

Kevin Fitzsimmons

Hi, good morning guys.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning Kevin.

Kevin Fitzsimmons

I was hoping you could just give us a sense on your outlook for the margin here and if possible if you can talk it about it on in terms of a core, in terms of reported, I know accretion is lumpy, but and even with core I know you guys pull out accelerated accretion, but if you could talk about it in terms of also pulling out all accretion in terms where your margins stands at this point and where you expected to go? Thanks.

Robinson McGraw

Sure. So, Kevin just our all-in margin I think was 4.21, 11 basis points of that was attributable to just accelerated income. So you strip that out and it’s the margin excluding the accelerators in the 4.10 range. We expect to remain roughly in the 4.10 range for this year. As we get into the next year that would change a little bit. To your point, included in that 4.10, there is some purchase accounting adjustments that are more of – that are related to interest rate marks. If we exclude all purchase accounting, our margin is in the 3.80 range, actually its 3.80, that has been relatively flat over the last eight quarters. We have seen – we do continue to expect to see margin compression outside of the accelerated. We think margin at best will be flat and continue to fight off margin compression just in the current rate environment that we have. We don’t expect dramatic margin compression. And to define dramatic I would say more than 2 basis points to 3 basis points per quarter. But we do think that in an environment that we are in that margin compression off of that 3.80 is a reality. So the 3.80 and 4.10 will be how it correlated just as it relates to changes in compression. If we see compression in 3.80, you will see compression in that 4.10 margin number as well.

As far as the additional income that we expect that number – the additional income from the accelerated accretion that number is volatile. It’s highly dependent on accelerated payoffs or changes in cash flows. On the average throughout the year, we expect that to be about 10 basis points per quarter. But I will readily admit – if you look at the volatility, I really admit that that’s a volatile number, it could be 21 basis points one quarter, it could be three basis points the next. So, on the average we expect it to be 10 basis points per quarter over the course of the year.

Kevin Fitzsimmons

Got it. Okay, very helpful. One additional follow-up in related to the margin I noticed cost of funds ticked up this quarter, can you just give a little color on what’s driving that? Is that just the Fed rate hike flowing through or is that the deliberate efforts to lock in funding longer term? Thanks.

Robinson McGraw

So, it’s a couple of things, but it’s primarily attributable to just the increase in the Fed rate. That 5 basis points increase from period over period in our total cost of funds really breaks down to 3 basis points of that was due just primarily due to the liability sensitive, rate sensitive liabilities that went up as the Fed move raised 25 basis points. Our focus is just to continue to build out core funding, that’s less rate sensitive. So, more of an effort on stable type – the stable deposits or more stable funding, we are really not considering going out on the curve and locking in any longer term say wholesale funding FHLB advances although we wouldn’t rule that out if it was opportunistic, we don’t see that as a need or a necessity right now.

Kevin Fitzsimmons

Got it. Okay.

Robinson McGraw

Thank you, Kevin.

Operator

And the next question comes from Andy Stapp of Hilliard Lyons.

Andy Stapp

Good morning.

Robinson McGraw

Good morning, Andy.

Andy Stapp

Just another question on loan growth, I think last quarter you guided annualized growth in non-acquired loans in the mid-teens, is that still a good run-rate going forward or might be a little bit higher?

Robinson McGraw

We will stick with that, Andy. I think as far as on average throughout the course of the year.

Andy Stapp

Okay. It sounds good.

Robinson McGraw

We are not talking quarter-to-quarter, but on an average throughout the year.

Andy Stapp

Yes, okay. And does the guidance for stable non-interest expenses, does that include the expense reductions you expect result from the mortgage platform consolidations?

Robinson McGraw

Yes, back to mortgage again, Andy that we are looking at replacements for production people. There will be some reductions based on the consolidation of the platforms and consolidation of management, but….

Andy Stapp

Okay.

Robinson McGraw

There will be variable cost increases obviously with enhanced production too.

Andy Stapp

Okay. And what do you expect the effective tax rate to be for the balance of the year?

Robinson McGraw

It should be in the 33% range, Andy.

Andy Stapp

Okay, great. Thank you.

Robinson McGraw

Thank you, Andy.

Operator

And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Robin McGraw for any closing remarks.

Robinson McGraw

Thank you, Laura. We want to thank everybody for their time and interest in Renasant Corporation and we certainly look forward to speaking with all of you again in the near future.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.

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