ImmunoGen's (IMGN) CEO Dan Junius on Q4 2016 Results - Earnings Call Transcript

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ImmunoGen, Inc. (NASDAQ:IMGN)

Q4 2016 Earnings Conference Call

August 04, 2016 08:00 AM ET


Carol Hausner - Executive Director, IR and Corporate Communications

Mark Enyedy - President and CEO

Charlie Morris - Chief Development Officer

Dave Johnston - CFO


John Newman - Canaccord Genuity

Simos Simeonidis - RBC Capital Markets

Cyrus Amoozegar - Morgan Stanley

Boris Peaker - Cowen & Company

Biren Amin - Jefferies

Michael Schmidt - Leerink Partners


Good day and welcome everyone to the ImmunoGen Fourth Quarter Fiscal Year 2016 Financial Results Conference Call. Today’s call is being recorded. At this time for opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the call over to the Executive Director, Investor Relations and Corporate Communications, Carol Hausner. Please go ahead.

Carol Hausner

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to our first quarterly call with our new President and CEO, Mark Enyedy. This call has accompanying slides that can be downloaded from the Investors section of our website, Also, earlier today we issued a press release that includes the summary of our recent progress and our financial results for the quarter and fiscal year ended June 30, 2016 which is also on our website.

During today’s call, we will be making forward-looking statements. Our actual results may differ materially from such statements. Descriptions of the risks and uncertainties associated with an investment in ImmunoGen are included in our SEC filings, which also can be accessed through our website.

Mark will provide an update on ImmunoGen’s strategy; our Chief Development Officer, Dr. Charlie Morris, will discuss our pipeline, and our Chief Financial Officer, Dave Johnston will discuss our financial results and guidance. We’ll then open the call to questions. Mark?

Mark Enyedy

Thanks, Carol and good morning. I joined ImmunoGen in mid-May and I’m excited to be here this morning to review with you the significant progress we’ve made with the business over the last 90 days.

Before covering our activities for the quarter, I thought I’d start the presentation today by highlighting what attracted me to ImmunoGen and why I see this company positioned for sustainable value creation.

Moving to slide 5, smart [ph] technology is a knowledge-based sector, success in our business begins with great people. To that end I’ve inherited a strong team at ImmunoGen both home-grown and drawn from premier companies across the industry with deep experience and developing, manufacturing and commercializing oncology therapies.

That team has established a leadership position in ADCs which are an increasingly important approach to cancer therapy with a number of agents and development more than doubling over the last five years.

To this growing field, ImmunoGen brings a robust portfolio of four clinical candidates and continued innovation with ADC technologies. Our portfolio is led by mirvetuximab soravtansine, a first-in-class, folate receptor alpha targeting ADC entering Phase 3 testing for platinum-resistant ovarian cancer, a patient population with limited therapeutic options.

Behind mirvetuximab, we feel the productive platform that continues to generate differentiated ADCs including 779 for AML which integrates our IGN payload and 529 for DLBCL which has generated striking preclinical data and is now in a Phase 2 trial in combination with Rituxan.

Levering this platform, we’ve entered into a number of high-value partnerships with leading companies such as Roche, Bayer, Amgen and Takeda. Collectively our partners are developing nine clinical candidates that deploy our technology.

Finally, to support these activities, we strengthened our balance sheet significantly last quarter and started the current fiscal year with almost $250 million in cash. So I am excited to be at ImmunoGen. With a combination of talented people, robust portfolio and a strong cash balance, this company is well-positioned for sustainable value creation for our patients, employees and shareholders.

Moving to slide 6, realizing on the promise of this business requires clear strategic direction and priorities. Our goal is to build a fully integrated biotech company that delivers innovative ADC therapies to cancer patients around the globe.

To attain this goal, we are focused on four strategic priorities. Number one: we are committed to executing on a speed-to-market strategy to complete the development and obtain full approval for mirvetuximab and platinum-resistant ovarian cancer. We took an important step towards that objective last month as we’ll discuss in a moment.

Second: we will accelerate the development of our early-stage portfolio with an emphasis on ADCs deploying our new DNA-acting payload. With a potentially broad therapeutic index, we believe we can remarkably increase the number of cancers addressable by ADC therapies with this technology.

Third: building on our leadership position, we will continue to drive innovation in ADCs to unmatched depth and breadth as expertise in new payloads, linkers and methods of conjugation.

Fourth: we will continue to lever our platform to support our existing relationships and pursue new collaborations to expand the reach of our innovation, generate revenue, mitigate expenses and most importantly expand our capabilities to enable more patients to be treated with ADC deploying our technology.

Having defined our strategic direction and corporate priorities, we are now undertaking a comprehensive review of our operations to ensure that we execute efficiently across the business and most effectively manage our cash. We expect to complete this review this quarter and I look forward to sharing with you the output in the coming months as well as our continued progress on the core elements of our strategy, which I’m going to cover in a bit more detail in the coming slides.

We have established a leadership position in ADC and we’ll build on that position by delivering on our proprietary portfolio, supporting our partners and continuing to innovate.

Slide 7, illustrates our internal pipeline which offers a diversified and differentiated portfolio of novel ADCs addressing both solid tumors and hematological malignancies. We’ve made significant progress with this portfolio in recent months including a positive meeting with the FDA to review our planned Phase 3 FORWARD 1 study for mirvetuximab.

Based upon the guidance provided by the agency, we will initiate FORWARD 1 as designed and expect the first patient to be dosed in this study before the end of the year. We enrolled our first patient in the Phase 2 study of 539 in combination with Rituxan for diffused large B-cell lymphoma. We initiated clinical testing of 779 which deploys one of our IGN payloads.

Charlie will provide additional context for these clinical achievements in a minute. So, I’m going to touch on the innovation and partnering components of our strategy to conclude my initial comments this morning.

Moving to slide 8, extending our leadership position will require continued innovation. To that end, we bring more than 20 years of experience in the development of new ADC technologies and have translated that experience into material advances in the field including Kadcyla, deploying our DM1payload in one of our non-cleavable linker in the first ADC that demonstrated survival benefit in solid tumors.

Anetumab Ravtansine deploying our DM4 payload with one of our cleavable-linkers and now in a registration-enabling Phase 2 trial for the treatment of mesothelioma and mirvetuximab also deploying our DM4 payload with a new charge-linker, we developed a counter multi-drug resistance.

Building on this strong legacy, we will continue to apply our expertise to extend the reach of ADCs to multiple cancers with both solid tumors and hematological malignancies.

Moving to slide 9, partnerships remain a core component of our strategy. These relationships allow us to enhance and diversify our expertise, gain access to supplemental technologies and capabilities and extend our platform to a broader range of patient populations.

Takeda for example was developing a GCC-targeting ADC with one of our DNA-acting agents that will move this payload into solid tumors. Partnerships has also generated significant revenue for ImmunoGen and going forward, we expect to use collaborations, also to provide a measure of risk in cost sharing.

So, with that, I’ll turn the call over to Charlie to discuss our progress with mirvetuximab and our other clinical programs in greater depth.

Charlie Morris

Thank you, Mark and good morning everybody. Moving to slide 11, as you’ve heard the executing on the speed-to-market strategy for our lead program mirvetuximab soravtansine is a top strategic priority for ImmunoGen. Mirvetuximab soravtansine is a highly differentiated agent in-development for prevalent cancer with limited treatment options today and its Phase 3 ready as you’ll see on slide 12.

FORWARD 1 reflects the fastest potential approval of mirvetuximab soravtansine is as a single-agent therapy and we’re advancing Phase 3 based on the sizeable safety database that supports its advancement, demonstrated clinically meaningful single-agent activity which supports its moving into a controlled randomized trial that can access whether its activity is better than the single-agent therapies available today and the appropriate patient populations having being defined.

At ASCO, we presented findings from the perspective assessment of mirvetuximab soravtansine for the treatment of folate receptor alpha positive platinum-resistant ovarian cancer. The agent demonstrates meaningful single-agent activity in the full 46-patient cohort with a 26% confirmed response rate and medium progression free survival of 4.8 months.

Standard single-agent therapy today usually has response rate below 20% and progression-free survival below 4 months.

While the study investigated and at ImmunoGen we’re very happy with these findings, the patient population for Phase 3 trials should be most highly defined than what was used in the signal finding assessment.

The inclusion criteria allowed enrollment of patients for platinum-resistant disease, folate receptor alpha positivity with low, medium or high folate receptor alpha expression.

As significant and possible more significant, patients have received a wide range of numbers of prior regimens, anywhere between one and five. Half of the patients enrolled have to perceive three or fewer and half of them received four or five.

The low leads of lead data enabled us to further define specific patient population for the Phase 3 trial. Patients who had received up to three prior regimens were more likely to respond in the group overall, and those who additionally had at least medium FR alpha positivity have been greatest likeliness of responding.

Based on patient screening and published data, we estimate approximately 60% of patients with ovarian cancer have at least FR alpha, a medium FR alpha expression with 40% having high expression. This finding benefits us in terms of problems. Studying mirvetuximab soravtansine in this earlier line intercepting in the Phase 3 trial expands the relevant population to around 5,000 to 7,000 patients per year in the U.S. with a comparable number in Europe.

We recently shared all of this information with the FDA, the safety data, the demonstrative activity and our planned Phase 3 trial including the selected patient population. This was a positive meeting and with the benefit of feedback from the FDA, we are moving forward to initiate the Phase 3 trial as planned before year-end.

Moving to slide 13, as a reminder FORWARD 1 will be a randomized controlled Phase 3 trial and with 333 patients will be randomized 2:1 to receive either mirvetuximab or the physicians’ choice in therapy. The choice will be among Doxil, Avastin and carboplatin [ph].

To be eligible for enrollment, patients will need to have platinum-resistant ovarian cancer, previously treated with up to three regimens and have high or medium FR alpha expression on their tumors. The primary endpoint in trial is progression-free survival which will be assessed separately for the patients with high FR alpha expression for all-study patients.

To put this trial into context, the soravtansine is approved for use in combination with chemotherapy for platinum-resistant ovarian cancer treated with up to two prior regimens. So patients may receive soravtansine if appropriate prior to entering FORWARD 1. We will be bringing on approximately 125 clinical sites in the U.S. and Western Europe with a ramp-up in the U.S. benefits coming from the partnership with the GOT Foundation. Patient enrollment is on-track to begin before year-end.

Turning to slide 14, as we execute on the speed-to-market strategy, we will also be assessing mirvetuximab soravtansine combination regimens. This is underway in our FORWARD 2 trial as shown on slide 15.

The cohort is currently open in FORWARD 2 of the drug assessments with Doxil, Avastin and carboplatin. We have successfully completed those finding with Avastin and have started Phase 2 testing of mirvetuximab soravtansine with Avastin in 35 patients with Avastin naïve disease. The activity with combination in preclinical testing was very impressive.

If mirvetuximab soravtansine also has a good safety profile with the carboplatin we will open a cohort to assess the triple combination of this ADC plus Avastin plus carboplatin. The cohort assessing mirvetuximab soravtansine with a carboplatin is the first use of the ADC in platinum-sensitive patients. And part of our boarder strategy of moving mirvetuximab into early lines of treatment.

We’re also preparing to begin testing mirvetuximab in combination with Merck’s PD-1 inhibitor Keytruda in the near future. There are intriguing preclinical data on the combination of MAY emtansine ADC such as mirvetuximab using combination with checkpoint inhibition.

We expect to begin reporting data for FORWARD 2 at ASCO next year.

As Mark noted, one of our strategic, on slide 16, one of our strategic priorities is to accelerate the development of our earlier stated portfolio. In April we announced that we had initiated Phase 1 clinical testing of our CD-33 targeting-ADC IMGN779 in acute myeloid leukemia. This trial is evaluating two alternative dosing schedules and then we will move forward with the selected schedule into expansion cohorts.

We’ve been asked about the difference between IMGN779 and other ADCs directed at the CD-33 target. And the key difference slides now, payload’s ability to alkylate DNA without cross-linking it, which we believe will allow for an improved tolerability profile and ability to repeat those. We’re looking forward to the first clinical - to report the first clinical data with IMGN779 in 2017. Notably this will be the first clinical data with an ADC utilizing our ITN payload family.

We’ve also advanced our CD-37 targeting ADC IMGN529 into Phase 2 clinical testing assessing its use in combination with Rituxan, based on the striking synergy scene in preclinical assessments. This novel therapy recently received open drug designation in diffused large B-cell lymphoma.

I look forward to keeping you up to date on the advancement of our lead candidate and the progress of our exciting earlier stage programs.

With that, I’ll hand the call over to Dave now to talk about our financials.

Dave Johnston

Thanks, Charlie. Our financials are shown on slide 18, and were discussed in some detail on our press release issued this morning. So with that I’m going to review the highlights and then review our guidance through December 31.

Effectively January 1, we’re going to be changing our reporting period from a fiscal year ending June 30 to the calendar year which ends obviously December 31. And we’re doing this to bring our reporting calendar into line with the vast majority of biotech companies.

So with that, onto a summary of our financial results. Revenues for the fiscal year 2016 were $60 million, and of this revenues from license and milestone fees were $27 million in fiscal 2016 made up of $9 million of amortization of previously received upfront fees and $18 million of revenues from partner milestone payments.

Revenues in the fiscal year also included $25 million of non-cash royalty revenue on sales of Kadcyla. As a reminder, the royalty is passed to the purchaser of the royalty stream and we report non-cash Kadcyla growth revenue that is partially offset by non-cash interest expense.

Operating expenses in 2016 were $184 million and this consisted of $147 million of R&D expenses and $37 million of G&A expenses.

For the fourth quarter of the fiscal year 2016, ImmunoGen reported net loss of $45 million or $0.51 a share. And for the full fiscal year, ImmunoGen reported a net loss of $144 million or $1.65 per share.

In fiscal 2016, cash used on operations was $125 million and capital expenses were about $10 million.

We ended the fiscal year with approximately $245 million of cash and cash equivalents and $100 million of convertible debt outstanding, reflecting our financing transaction which we completed in June that provided us with net proceeds of approximately $97 million.

We’re going to be managing expenses to enable this cash balance to last for two years, covering a number of dying inflexion points as we advance our wholly-owned pipeline.

We also provided guidance for the six-month period, the stub-period from July 1 to December 31 on our press release this morning. For reporting during this period, we will be filing a 10-Q quarterly report as normal for the quarter ending September 30, and the annual report 10-K(t) for the full transition period ending December 31.

Then beginning the calendar year 2017, we will file 10-Ks and Qs on a calendar year basis and we will provide the guidance for calendar year 2017 shortly after the start of the year.

So, turning to our guidance for July 1 to December 31, 2016 period, we project revenues to be between $40 million and $45 million, operating expenses to be between $95 million and $100 million, net loss to be between $55 million and $60 million, cash used in operations to be between $65 million and $70 million, and capital expenses to be between $2 million and $5 million. And we expect to end the six-month period with between $170 million to $175 million in cash.

With our recent financing, we’re in a solid cash position which will enable us to execute on the strategy outlined by Mark. With financial discipline, we believe we’re sufficiently funded to advance our programs through several important value inflexion points.

So, with that I’ll turn the call back over to Mark.

Mark Enyedy

Thanks Dave. And as we execute on our strategy, we expect to achieve a number of important milestones over the next 12 to 18 months which are set out on slide 20. First and foremost, we’ll be enrolling our first patient in the FORWARD 1 Phase 3 trial with mirvetuximab before the end of the year.

In our FORWARD 2 trial, we will be opening the cohort, assessing mirvetuximab with Keytruda this quarter and continuing to dose patients in the three other cohorts already open. We’re on track to begin reporting for on FORWARD 2 in the second quarter of 2017 with a steady flow of updates anticipated thereafter.

We’re also submitting several abstracts to ASH with intriguing preclinical data on 779, 632 and 529 and we’ll be reporting the first 779 clinical data in 2017. Our partners are also making progress and we expect another partner program to enter registration studies this year.

Turning to slide 21, and coming back to my comments at the start of the call, I’m excited to have joined ImmunoGen as we transition to a fully integrated oncology company. We are a leader in a growing field with cutting-edge technology, a rich pipeline of differentiated product candidates, a talented and experienced management team, strong partnerships and a number of upcoming milestones.

With a clear set of priorities and the recent strengthening of our balance sheet, ImmunoGen is well positioned for sustainable value creation for our patients, employees and shareholders.

And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Carol to open up for Q&A.

Carol Hausner

Thanks Mark. We are about to open the call for questions. We ask that these be limited to one to two questions per person until everybody has had a chance to ask questions, at which point you can come back into the queue. Operator, we are now ready to open the line for questions.

Question-and-Answer Session


[Operator Instructions]. And we’ll take our first question from John Newman with Canaccord Genuity.

Mark Enyedy


Carol Hausner

You’re on John. So, we’ll go to the next question.


And we’ll take our next question from Simos Simeonidis with RBC Capital Markets.

Simos Simeonidis

Good morning, thank you for taking the questions. Kind of a mechanism related question. The 6.7 months of PFS that you saw with the population you’re going to do the Phase 3, and is the same as the population with the low expressers and the response rate is also fairly similar. Can you help us understand that or tell us what do you think about that?

Mark Enyedy


Charlie Morris

I think when we think about the population scene, the number of patients in this data set with low expression is relatively small. And what we wanted to do was to really give ourselves the best shot at positivity for the overall study.

So, clearly there is some activity in the low group. But whether it is truly the same as the medium and high expression, I think remains to be seen. So, what our view is that the medium and high expressers, you would certainly expect to bake some mechanism of action to have them, to be susceptible to the patient growth.

And therefore let’s go ahead in those, because we can always do more work in the low population at a later time. But the highest probability of success has to be in the expressers based on mechanism of action, based on preclinical data. And we thought rather than increasing the risk in the trial by having all comers, we would really maintain the medium and high, and give ourselves the extra shot with the analysis of both the high and the medium populations.

Simos Simeonidis

Okay, great. Then in terms of your meeting with FDA, you describe it as a positive meeting. Can you give us any highlights or talk about what they liked about the data, any concerns. I know the endpoint was described in your slides as significant improvement in PFS. And then you also say in high expressers only or in all patients. Can you talk about that point?

Charlie Morris

Rather than speaking on behalf of the FDA and especially they have 30 days from the meeting to give their final minutes. Let me, I’ll talk about what the main points of the discussion were.

We talked about the acceptability of progression-free survival as a primary endpoint for approval. They accepted that [indiscernible] that was an appropriate endpoint. We asked about the size of the safety database that we presented the time of submission of the BLA would be appropriate and they said that certainly the size of database if they’re unable to approve that as FDA would always say, they said it’s a review matter. And therefore they’ll consider that as a time.

We asked about the statistical plan, they were accepting of our statistical proposal. And so, all of those key elements, the key design elements, the key things that we were focused on, the population that were defining were really the things that we wanted to discuss with them and get their feedback on. And they were accepting, with describing some detail of the design of the FORWARD 1 trial previously. And it’s going to proceed exactly as we had previously described. So, obviously we were very pleased with that outcome.


And we’ll take our next question from Matthew Harrison with Morgan Stanley.

Cyrus Amoozegar

Hi, yes, this is Cyrus on for Matt. So, for this FORWARD 1 study, when you met with the FDA, do you guys explore any response based end-points and was the FDA open to any of them? And then, also for FORWARD 1, can you give any guidance on basically how long it will take to enroll or any expectations you guys have?

Charlie Morris

In terms of different endpoints, we feel that the perfect endpoint for full approval was going to be progression-free survival. And so we didn’t sort of lay alternatives out to the FDA, we explored with them whether this would indeed be an appropriate design for full approval. And they were accepting of that design. So we didn’t put that question onto the - of an alternative endpoint onto the table.

And I’m sorry Cyrus…

Cyrus Amoozegar

Timing of the data.

Charlie Morris

I mean, what we have said is that we believe that it will take around three years to get, to have data from the study, we expect to have data in ‘19. So, obviously it takes a while to get up to full opening of the sites. But I think we’d be hopeful that we would have the patients recruited in, it’s sort of a hopefully 18 months or less timeframe.

Cyrus Amoozegar

Great. Thank you.


And we’ll take our next question from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan.

Unidentified Analyst

Hi guys, this is Ryan on for Jess, I appreciate you taking her questions.

Mark Enyedy


Unidentified Analyst

As we think about FORWARD 1, what are your thoughts on maybe the preferred physicians’ choice? And second how do you think about the variability for PFS in that control arm? Thanks.

Charlie Morris

In terms of the physicians’ choice, my, and this is speculation obviously. But I think that will be a fairly even split of patients receiving Doxil or paclitaxel and just a small number of patients getting [indiscernible].

In terms of the variability, obviously patients who have had different numbers of lines of prior therapy, then maybe some differences between those two though that’s never been clearly established in randomized studies. It would infer from the [indiscernible] study there is some better outcome with things like paclitaxel.

But we’re comfortable with the design and based on historic data that we will be competitive with all three of these, that’s how we set the trial, that’s how the FDA was comfortable with setting up the trial. So, the variability really comes out through the randomization within the study. And I think our objective here is to show that current standard single-agent choices hopefully are not as good as mirvetuximab. And therefore that’s the design of the study to show that.

Unidentified Analyst

And is it reasonable to assume that the majority of them will be 2 plus lines of therapy i.e. that not, should it be probably will not be too many first line or patients with only one line of prior therapy?

Mark Enyedy

I suspect that’s a reasonable assumption about two thirds of patients if not more are platinum-sensitive at their first platinum treatment. So the majority of patients will get a second round of platinum before they become platinum resistant. So, I think one prior line would be a minority but I think there will some in there.

Unidentified Analyst

Great. Thank you.


And our next question comes from Boris Peaker with Cowen & Company.

Boris Peaker

Good morning.

Mark Enyedy

Hi Boris.

Boris Peaker

I’m just looking at the catalyst and I don’t see the endometrial study in the presentation. Is that still planned or is that no longer in the plan?

Mark Enyedy

Obviously we’ve been completing the initial cohort in the Phase 1 in 20% those data next year. At this stage, based on results, we haven’t based on the strength of the signal that we have enough variance. And so that’s how we’ve really taken that as our key focus at this point. Endometrial is something that we’ll come back to but our operational priority right now is to get Forward 1 started.

Boris Peaker

Got you. And speaking in terms of resources and operating expenses. So, your cash operating guidance for the second half of ‘16 is about $65 million to $70 million. And Mark noted in his opening remarks that you plan to invest more in your earlier stage pipeline. I’m just wondering can we extrapolate for the full fiscal 2017, which is going to be on a calendar basis and can we talk about maybe close to $150 million in cash operating expenses?

Mark Enyedy


Dave Johnston

Hi, Dave here. I wouldn’t necessarily do that because as Mark also said, we’re taking a real close look at the operations in general. And as he said, we’re going to be reporting on that the next couple of months. But the idea here is that, with the resources that we had in hand, the $245 million and sort of normal expected milestones and revenues from our partners, with all the things that we’re planning on doing, including investing in the earlier stage pipeline, we expect that that should last us for a solid two years, so that would put us at least until the middle of 2018.


And our next question will come from Biren Amin with Jefferies.

Biren Amin

Yes. Thank s for taking my questions. Just on the ongoing biopsy trial, when can we expect data from that side?

Mark Enyedy

We didn’t really mention that. Some point next year. But we’ll be looking at whether the data is mature enough to put something in for ASCO sometime, we didn’t think there was quite enough in the data set at this time to get something in by the end of this year. So I think you’re probably looking at ASCO next year.

Biren Amin

So, I mean, you’re clearly looking at that data set. Are you incorporating any of the key learnings from that data set into the FORWARD 1 Phase 3 trial?

Mark Enyedy

I would say, I don’t think there is enough in there its 27 patients. So I think to start trying to infer so strongly that it would directly impact where we are with the study would probably be a bit of a gamble. But obviously we look at the efficacy information is probably is important, anything in there to ensure that we’re continuing to see the levels of activity consistent with where we are. And there is nothing that’s making us nervous about the design of the trial.

Biren Amin

And then, with regards to FORWARD 1 how are you thinking about your start plan? Are you going to evaluate PFS and high expressers initially and then go to all patients, is this the step-wise plan?

Mark Enyedy

No, it’s not a hieratical approach, so you’re able to test both populations without paying penalty.

Biren Amin

Great. Thank you.


And we’ll take our next question from Michael Schmidt with Leerink Partners.

Michael Schmidt

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. You laid out some figures in terms of market size of patient numbers for folate receptor alpha, patients with medium or high expression. I was wondering if there is data looking at overlap with the BrCA population in ovarian cancer?

Mark Enyedy

We don’t have detailed information at this point Michael. But it’s something that we are continuing to explore. And we will continue to look at these specimens that we obtain. When we think about patients with BrCA mutations they are often relatively platinum sensitive. So, they may get two or three rounds of platinum before becoming platinum resistant.

So in our particular populations, I think you could speculate that there might not be a substantial overlap because having had a relatively small number of prior therapies I’m being platinum resistant is probably not the typical phenotype if you like for a BrCA mutated patient.

Michael Schmidt

Okay, thanks. And then you mentioned the Bayer mesothelioma program. And I was just wondering if you can remind us of the economics there number one. And number two, if there is any information out there in terms of timing for that trial to complete?

Carol Hausner

There isn’t, this is Carol. There isn’t any information out there in terms of timing. What has been disclosed is we get milestones potentially totaling $170 million and royalties are between 4% and 7%.

Michael Schmidt

Okay, great. Thanks so much.


And that concludes today’s question-and-answer session. I would like to turn it back over to Mark Enyedy for any additional or closing remarks.

Mark Enyedy

Yes. Thank you all for joining us on the call today. And we’re quite pleased to report the progress that we’ve made in recent months and to layout our strategy to build a fully integrated oncology company delivering innovative ADCs. I look forward to continuing to update you on our progress. And thanks again for your time today.


And that does conclude today’s conference. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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