Apple Priced for Perfection: Great Company, Bad Investment
I'm not saying that the stock is not going to $200. But let's slow down for a moment and take a quick look at the numbers. I'm using Georges Yared's estimates for Apple that go through FY 2009. According to his estimates, Apple's EPS will increase 20% from FY 2007 to FY 2008, and EPS will increase by 25% from 2008 to 2009 (using the high end of his range). Even at the current price of $137, Apple will have a PE of 23 at the end of FY 2009. A PE of 23 is not a bad number, especially if Apple can keep growing earnings respectfully, say 12% to 15% per year. But if, as predicted, Apple's stock goes to $200, the PE becomes 34. That's rather rich for a company that will have a market cap at that time of $173 billion.
For Apple to command that kind of PE, they will have to keep selling a lot of iStuff. Keep in mind, too, that Apple is primarily a consumer electronics company, meaning they are at the whims of changing consumer tastes.
If you've never read or heard of Ben Graham's parable about Mr. Market, I highly encourage you to take a minute and read it, or re-read it. Mr. Market's enthusiasm for Apple's stock seems to be growing daily, and as his enthusiasm increases, he's losing site of the fundamentals of the company, itself. Remember, all businesses have cycles, and when sales slow -- even a tad -- at Apple, the stock will be punished if traders and investors keep the notion that Apple can do no wrong. It's interesting to note -- and a reminder of how the fortunes of companies can and do swing back and forth -- Michael Dell's 1997 comments about Apple. When asked what he would do to fix Apple at that time, he said, "I would shut it down, and give the money back to the shareholders."
Apple is a great company, and Steve Jobs has done a tremendous job of turning around the company after his return as CEO. But as Warren Buffett says, even good companies make bad investments if purchased at the wrong time.
AAPL 1-yr chart
Disclosure: I have no positions in Apple.
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This article has 13 comments:
Apple and AT&T have been silent - do they have a good reason for silence?
All the availability/non-avail... at locations might represent redistribution, not sell-outs and restocking.
If the real number comes out less that 150,000, there might be real punishment.
And I would not base any decisions from what seems an arbitrary earnings forecast.
Apple may well be turning out to be a combined Microsoft and Sony..albeit one with better ethics and behaviour.
Judgements on calculating an Apple Inc. valuation may not be showing up yet in the "Investors Manual"!
If the sales were at 550,000 during the first weekend and there will be 1.1m sold by 25.7. the sales are slowing down by about 1%/day. This would imply less than 2m iphones sold by end of 2008, even including the potential of the selected European markets (UK, Germany, France).
Nor do I expect competitors to be able to launch a successful response. Ever. They'd be starting from ground zero. They'd need to write a whole new OS out of whole cloth. They are starting with less relative capability than the MP3 player makers had when they preceded Apple to to music player market. (MP3 players basically just have to play MP3; ultra-smartphones have to incorporate tons of sophisticated features--GRACEFULLY. To my knowledge, none of Apple's phone competitors even have a solid web browser at this point).
I am a seller of most of my shares bought at $120 around the middle of June. 20 points in a month or about 16% is a nice gain which I prefer to take and not risk to the whims of the earnings game.
Alvarado
12% to 15% ???
With Apple's current product lineup and it's potential for upgrades, I'll be astounded if Apple's EPS growth is not over 30% in both 2007 and 2008. Mr. Edwards just can't seem to get his mind around a company of this size being innovative in it's core markets and moving successfully into new markets at the same time. Perhaps it hasn't happened before – but it's happening now.