Apple's Leopard Is Worryingly Windows-Like 29 comments
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Dave Winer is out with his thoughts on the latest "upgrade" to the new Mac OS Leopard.
From Dave: "Talking with a friend a few days ago, he asked what I thought of Leopard. He had installed the new version, like me, the first day it came out. "I'm not liking it," I said. He said something that was simple, profound and revealing: "It's like Windows." It is. It's that unpleasant to use. It disappears for long periods of time. Systems that didn't used to crash now crash regularly. On one system three hard disks were rendered unusable, and I lost a couple of full days restoring them (luckily I had good backups)."
Wow, that does not sound good at all. I'm just not sure what Leopard does for me beyond being the new latest and greatest. I mean, what problems does it solve for me that are not solved now? Like Dave, I switched to the Mac because I hated Windows so much and hated all the constant errors I would get when I used Windows. My Mac experience thus far has been delightful.
But my first impression of Leopard came when Kristopher Tate, our CTO and lead developer of Zoomr IM'd me when he found that Adobe's (ADBE) Flash wasn't compatible with Leopard (he blamed Adobe for this one). The result was that if you upgraded to Leopard, you couldn't upload photos to Zooomr anymore. I will tell you that uploading photos to Zooomr for me is 1000% more important than any tweak to the OS that Apple (AAPL) might throw at me.
Subsequent reports that I've heard about Leopard have not been good. The experience by many is described as buggy and unreliable. The thing about a Mac, the value of a Mac is contained in a single phrase: "It just works." But if it *doesn't* just work then the value of the Mac goes out the window. And it sounds like for a lot of people Leopard just *isn't* working. I'm glad I waited for the upgrade.
Why should I upgrade to Leopard? Is there any compelling reason beyond just trying the latest and newest gadgetry?
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I ADORE Cover Flow!!! It is NOT just fluff! I can browse through documents the way I browse through photos in a photo organizing tool. I can see what is in them, page through them to find what I need. I cannot imagine living without it now.
Faster faster faster! I am sure everything seems much faster. In particular they fixed my pet peeve - the time it takes to start a new email msg. Even to forward a msg with several imbedded pix - 1-and-2-and there it is! used to be like 10 - 20 seconds - awful!
SPACES - just fantastic. I write and do photography, and frequently have 3 web browsers going. So now I have one space for LightRoom and other photo work, one for Camino with 6 - 10 investment windows open, another for communications, and another for miscellaneous personal stuff.
So I don't know what all this negative is. Maybe if I had to administer 60 machines I would have had other problems.
Personally - I am happy as a clam with Leopard.
Anything I would change? Sure! Please take the word "yo" out of the dictionary - or better yet, give me a tool to do so myself. I am extremely dys-typsic and am always missing the 'u' in you. Pick pick Pick pick Pick pick!
jmmx - Portland Oregon
The idea that flash doesnt work on leopard is false.
The idea that flash doesnt work on leopard is false.
The idea that flash doesnt work on leopard is false.
The idea that flash doesnt work on leopard is false.
The idea that flash doesnt work on leopard is false.
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
Secondly, I don't know what garbage you have on your machine, how up-to-date you keep your software (apps not just OSX, or what kind of Unix maintenance you perform on your machine, but I'd bet anything that the fault is yours. I waited about a week, checked Mac Fixit for problematic areas, checked Adobe, Epson, and other companies whose products I used for notes on Leopard issues, downloaded "fixes" where available, and have no problems of any significance. I use all of Adobe's programs (Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Acrobat Pro), Good Olde Office (unfortunately, but switching to iWork soon), 4th Dimension database, Aperture, and many more. All work flawlessly because I took the time to check things out first, which any knowlegable person would do. You have some serious problems with your setup, and they are not due to Apple.
And lastly, to say that Leopard is "Windows-Like" indicates either complete ignorance of the two systems, or you are a paid Microsoft Shill. Which is it?
As a 15 year programmer in windoze I am happy to never to have to go back to that crap - Leopard is in a whole other league. Hardly ever have any issues at all, and I push the thing.
As a 15 year programmer in windoze I am happy to never to have to go back to that crap - Leopard is in a whole other league. Hardly ever have any issues at all, and I push the thing.