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I don't think anyone has managed to miss the fact that Apple (APPL) stock is down about 20% in a week. I've gotten several emails asking me 1) how and why this is happening, and 2) whether I think it will go back up. I am not a financial adviser, but I'm happy to give my opinion. Let's tackle those questions in reverse order.

Will Apple go back up again? My view is almost certainly yes. Why? Because at the end of the day, I know that the stock price will eventually follow Apple earnings. And as I've noted before, Apple is using the iPhone and Apple TV to make its future earnings nicely predictable, since it is taking cash from customers now and recognizing them as earnings over 24 months. Said another way, future Apple earnings are like money in the bank -- literally.

So that's the rosy picture: at some day in the future, Apple stock will be valued at some nice hefty multiple of its earnings. I use 35 as my Price to earnings ratio for Apple stock, since that equals its annual earnings growth. But assuming you accept my projection that Apple will earn something north of $5 a share in fiscal 2008 ending in September and more than $7 a share in fiscal 2009, Apple's going to be at least a stock valued at somewhere between $175 and $245 at at P/E of 35. It's easy math.

So what's going on now that's pulling Apple stock back to $155 or maybe lower?

Well, first, the whole market is down, for one thing. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is now below 13,000 for the first time since August. So is the NASDAQ. And as you can see from the graphic above, Apple isn't even the biggest loser among tech stocks on a percentage basis -- companies like Google (GOOG), Cisco (CSCO) , Research In Motion (RIMM), and VMWare have had similar or bigger drops.

Secondly, Apple stock has had huge gains year to date, and a lot of mutual funds clean up their holdings prior to paying dividends and capital distributions to their shareholders in December. Many fund managers may simply be selling Apple stock just as a normal rotation in and out of technology around the end of the year.

Third, with the credit crunch bear crushing the stock market as a whole, Apple is likely attracting momentum short sellers, who take advantage of short-term declines in stock price to make some extra dollars, particularly if a stock is considered over-valued and the market is selling off overall. Like rainy days, there's not much to be done about short sellers other than to wait them out.

Fourth, a lot of quantitative hedge fund strategies are pulling down unrelated securities as the result of subprime mortgage losses. I wrote about this phenomenon about a week ago, inspired by the Technology Review article (registration required), The Blow-Up.". So despite the fact that Apple has almost no sub-prime mortgage exposure, automated quantitative hedge fund trading systems may make it behave as if it did anyway.

And fifth and finally, as one insightful reader pointed out, both stock options and hedge fund expirations are taking place this week. Investors usually know about options expiration dates, but what are hedge fund expirations? Turns out that investors in hedge funds have to give 45 days notice before they can withdraw their money. So if any investors want to withdraw their money before the end of this year -- say, to write off losses on their taxes or just to pay bills -- they have to give notice by the end of this week. And assuming that many hedge fund investors may already have given notice because of the down market, hedge funds may be liquidating substantial positions in high-quality stocks just to pay off their investors.The bottom line: Think of all the red ink in the market this past week as simply a before-Thanksgiving sale on stocks. Once we are past options and hedge fund expirations this week and end-of-year selling for tax purposes, stock prices at large will eventually reflect the earnings of the companies behind them. Companies with innovative products, strong earnings and earnings growth, and no exposure to the credit industry will appreciate in value. And that's true of no company I know more than Apple.

Disclosure: The author is long Apple, Garmin, and Google.

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    Yep, I bought (more) AAPL after the crash yesterday, and today each of those shares is up $15 or so (about 10%). I'm sure it'll remain volatile for a while, but I'm not sure another opportunity like yesterday's will come again for buying AAPL.
    2007 Nov 13 03:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yep, I bought (more) AAPL after the crash yesterday, and today each of those shares is up $15 or so (about 10%). I'm sure it'll remain volatile for a while, but I'm not sure another opportunity like yesterday's will come again for buying AAPL.
    2007 Nov 13 03:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yep, I bought (more) AAPL after the crash yesterday, and today each of those shares is up $15 or so (about 10%). I'm sure it'll remain volatile for a while, but I'm not sure another opportunity like yesterday's will come again for buying AAPL.
    2007 Nov 13 03:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yep, I bought (more) AAPL after the crash yesterday, and today each of those shares is up $15 or so (about 10%). I'm sure it'll remain volatile for a while, but I'm not sure another opportunity like yesterday's will come again for buying AAPL.
    2007 Nov 13 03:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with you completely but I think your 2009 $245 price target is way too conservative. I'd put it at $300. I also think that in 5-7 years this company will be a monster consumer/entertainment giant sitting at $600 a share. I've learned to never understimate Steve Jobs, (Disney's largest shareholder) ever!
    2007 Nov 13 04:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    I too think that's a bit conservative. I'm standing with my estimate from a couple of months ago - 210 yr end '07, 325 yr end '08. Could see 600 by yr end 2010 or earlier.
    2007 Nov 13 05:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with everything except 35% annual growth. The annual earnings growth from 06' to 07' was 25% (simple math) and the estimate of 5$ eps for 08' represents 25% over 07'. Using the same logic (with a P/E of 25 this time) leads to a target of...$125 to 175$. However I believe the mac story will lead to higher growth (I expect > 5$ in 08'). So I agree with the bullish conclusion.
    2007 Nov 13 08:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    FY07 eps were up nearly 70% from FY06--check your math. At approx $4 for 07, $5 for 08 is too conservative. iPhone is going to contribute $1 conservatively in 08 and rest of business will kick in 50% over the 07 numbers. So bottom line, FY 08 will be $7 and 09 will be $10+. By this time next year analysts will have 09 estimates at $9-$10 and with a 35 forward PE we will see $320-$350 stock price. The current $170 will seem like a distant dream.
    2007 Nov 13 09:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    your right. I miscalc'd FY07 YoY growth. I still don't think apple with be worth 300B$ in a year though, bro.
    2007 Nov 13 10:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    Why are you misguiding innocent investors? You are the Henry Blodget of today who said Amazon is worth $400 and sent personsl mails to sell the stock. What makes you think earnings is ever permanent? What happened to the earnings of Cisco during 2002-2003? Why are you not telling investors about the risk of holding Apple stock? What Apple TV are you talking about? How much money did Apple make on Apple TV? Do you think $831 on a toy phone is sustainable long term?
    2007 Nov 14 01:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    "The Right Price" certainly deals with valuation, which is an inherently subjective notion, and changes all the time according to the emotional tenor of the markets at the time. Anyone who thinks there is an "absolute Right Price" for any stock can save themselves a lot of time and trouble and send me their money right now. Not that I deserve it any more than the next Joe Publicus, but it may as well be me.

    Presumably, when one refers to the "Right Price", one refers to a price that one would purchase at, with the intention of it being lower than the market price (the only True Price) at some point in the future, preferably with said purchase price being lower than the market price at all points between immediately after the purchase, and the future time target.

    A useful guide in this endeavor is to look at the history of changes in the PE of a stock, and using the recent (i.e., far enough back that it includes at least one recession) low PE's as a "safe" time to purchase, and historical high PE's as an indicator of great risk when purchasing.

    While nothing is infallible when dealing with the emotional inefficient markets, the above guidelines can indicate when to go "all-in" and when to place stop-loss orders after every purchase. I think (without the benefit of actually checking) that this is one of those times when it would be a good idea to be maintaining stop-loss collars -- even on AAPL.

    My own strategy is to buy long LEAPs, as far out as I can get, at a strike price typically half the price of the stock at the time, and put my hands in my pocket and wait. I sell with long-term gains, and grow the investment at about twice the rate that the stock grows.

    It's not a sophisticated strategy, but simpler is usually better, as the more buy-sell decisions one makes, the more opportunities one is presented to lose money. When I trade frequently, odds are that I'll wind up losing money. Better to take my 5- and 10-baggers and be happy with them.

    I wish the next recession would hurry up and become apparent, as I'd love to buy more AAPL LEAPs -- but the current PEs as compared to the historical range leave me nervous about buying more now.
    2007 Nov 14 01:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Excellent insight to AAPL and how regulations on hedge funds may be contributing to the sell off. I was long AAPL back when announced earnings at broke out to just over a $100 a share recently selling around $175 when everything went to hell. I orignally set a conservative estimate at around $230 a share so I think your target is spot on. Great work!
    2007 Nov 15 08:23 AM | Link | Reply
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