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With Advanced Micro Devices' (AMD) stock price deteriorating, could Apple (AAPL) be its white knight?
The 10 reasons and most apparent advantages of this acquisition are:
- Apple’s best computer system architecture, operation system, user interface, and applications will combine with AMD’s most advanced and genuine multi-core CPUs and energy saving technology;
- Apple will have better integration for its computer, particularly considering the new AMD Spider chip that combines AMD-ATI CPU and graphics in one chip;
- With Apple’s unique position, it can still sell AMD’s CPUs and other chips to all AMD’s current customers and won’t compete directly with neither Apple’s nor AMD’s current customers after the acquisition;
- Intel (INTC) will gain a more balanced competitor, which is healthy for the entire semiconductor industry, and even Intel may benefit from it;
- Apple’s solid financial condition not only can support but also will speed up technology innovation; further it may change the entire business and technology landscape - from the semiconductor industry, PC industry, enterprise IT industry, and consumer electronics industry, to wireless communication industry;
- It reduces cost for Apple and improves its profit margin;
- It is not technically difficult since Apple has already worked out with Intel CPU;
- It is cheap. AMD spent $5.4 billion alone to acquire graphics chip company ATI mostly by cash in June 2006;
- The government will be glad and the deal won’t face challenge by government regulation of monopoly and competition policy;
- It will keep AMD American.
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This article has 25 comments:
- vincefra
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 07:06 AMAt current, Apple is in no need to have in house fabrication power for CPU's or GPU's (ATI), nor does the statement "stays American", "current financial conditions", "technical difficulty" have any value to such a merger.
I would have expected statements over "future financial gains", "platform innovation possibilities", "market penetration", "branding", ...
- peter02l
- 124 Comments
Nov 22 12:23 AM- vincefra
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 07:06 AMAt current, Apple is in no need to have in house fabrication power for CPU's or GPU's (ATI), nor does the statement "stays American", "current financial conditions", "technical difficulty" have any value to such a merger.
I would have expected statements over "future financial gains", "platform innovation possibilities", "market penetration", "branding", ...
- Jon T
- 314 Comments
Nov 21 07:22 AMThe one thing that Apple has always been good at, is to say NO to non-core (pun intended), distracting, pointless, ego-boosting activities, products and purchases.
That's something Microsoft has never learned. So why not suggest it to them?
- OldFart Peter
- 5 Comments
Nov 27 08:43 PM- frankz00
- 24 Comments
Nov 21 09:08 AM- Spineless
- 1 Comment
Nov 26 05:39 PMOh really? Is that why they have a strategic partnership regarding process development primarily targeting SOI, which includes 32nm technology?
Actually, AMD dumped Motorola because the Motorola SOI process was inferior to IBM's. IBM helped AMD get back on track.
But to address horrible yields, AMD has had problems every now and again, but then again, when you consider that their budget for everything is just a fraction of what Intel spends, you should include that what they have accomplished is amazing considering their financial restrictions... largely due to past monopolistic activities on the part of Intel.... but I digress
- User 124298
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 10:39 AMSo, Apple's choice is an easy one. Work closely with Intel and draft off of their investments or purchase a "cheap" AMD and then tie up all of their cash (and then some probably) trying to catch/keep up with Intel with no guarentee of ever seeing a return. Hmmm
- reinharden
- 54 Comments
Nov 21 12:18 PMPartnering with the second tier silicon vendors at the time (IBM and Motorola) didn't really work out all that well. Why on earth would Apple want to partner with what is really the third or fourth tier silicon company?
Vertical integration doesn't work very well in the computer industry. IBM and Motorola have demonstrated that by their moves to abandon various parts of the market.
If AMD is going to survive in the long-term, it's best American hopes are private equity and/or IBM. Otherwise, it's likely going to land in the hands of one of the large Asian companies. Vertical integration *might* work for a company selling low cost PCs in China or India or possibly Korea. If that company already needed to build lots of fabs, there'd be some useful synergy.
But simply needing to buy 3% of the CPUs used *only* in the PC market does not provide sufficient synergy or scale to make it worthwhile to spend literally billions on each generation of fab.
Apple's unit run rate is currently 8 to 10 million units per year. You've got to build a new fab every 2 or 3 years to stay current. Each fab build costs more than the last but realistically you're looking at $3 to $5 billion.
For convenience, let's look at 2 years at 8 million each and 2 fabs at $4 billion each. We've just spent $500/machine simply on building fabs!
The last thing AAPL wants to do is get back in the silicon business. Even they admitted that they're primarily a software company when they got with the program and started optimizing Intel reference designs instead of designing from scratch.
reinharden
- dpc
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 02:11 PM- brewer
- 388 Comments
Nov 21 03:40 PMAMD is getting worse and worse. They used to be leading edge, now they are struggling to keep up.
I think Apple is FAR better off with Intel.
- User 124298
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 05:37 PM- Donald E. L. Johnson
- 170 Comments
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Nov 21 06:06 PMApple's famous for innovating consumer products. Is that a transferable skill to computer chips and other components? I doubt it. Buzz doesn't count for much in manufacturing.
Apple outsources most its manufacturing. Does AMD?
How would Apple-AMD be valued by the market? Conglomerates generally sport low PEs because makets don't know how to value them. Thus the Tyco spinoffs and talk about breaking up Citigroup.
- SDBryan
- 16 Comments
Nov 21 06:29 PM- SDBryan
- 16 Comments
Nov 21 06:33 PM"Ooooh, the Saudis are gonna figure out the innerworkings of the Sempron."
- wynner1
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 06:42 PMWith Intel's Tick Tock manufacturing roadmaps with new architechure and new process technology alternating every other year, it would take more money than Apple readily has available to stay a year behind.
The only American company that might have a chance at profiting from acquiring AMD is IBM. If IBM did have interest in AMD, it would wait until AMD files for bankruptcy instead of taking on AMD's debt load.
None of the 10 points made any practical sense and it will never happen.
- wynner1
- 2 Comments
Nov 21 06:42 PMWith Intel's Tick Tock manufacturing roadmaps with new architechure and new process technology alternating every other year, it would take more money than Apple readily has available to stay a year behind.
The only American company that might have a chance at profiting from acquiring AMD is IBM. If IBM did have interest in AMD, it would wait until AMD files for bankruptcy instead of taking on AMD's debt load.
None of the 10 points made any practical sense and it will never happen.
- Steverino
- 3 Comments
Nov 21 08:50 PMActually, I think Buffet should buy AMD. He would have to pump a lot of $ into it to make it competitive with Intel again, but that would be more American than giving away all that money. It could also save the world from the huge tariffs to be imposed by an Intel unrestrained by competition.
- anonymouse
- 10 Comments
Nov 21 09:06 PM- just_simple
- 9 Comments
Nov 23 08:32 PM- IsThisAJoke
- 1 Comment
Nov 25 01:34 PM- RickCain
- 1 Comment
Nov 26 03:08 PM- George123
- 1 Comment
Nov 26 04:12 PM- yourbestfriendintheworld
- 3 Comments
Nov 26 06:23 PM1. if AMD is acquired, it loses all right to x86 technology licensed from Intel, and Intel keeps all technology it licenses from AMD.
Okay, so I don't need the other 10. That alone means that Apple couldn't make AMD microprocessors after the acquisition. And without the microprocessor designs and manufacturing, there's nothing for Apple to acquire.
P.S. I have a hard time believing anything claimed in Tech101's bio. Unless he let one of his children ghost-write this week's article...
- barnacle999
- 1 Comment
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