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Todd Kenyon


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Thursday was lovely day in the stock market. The fear is palpable. The Fed whining is deafening. Bernanke doesn't seem to care that much, and maybe he shouldn't. It is not his job to worry about stock market psychology. It is his job to keep the economy afloat and stave off inflation. If easing 100 bp Friday will help accomplish that, then he should do it - but not for any other reason.

That aside, let's tell it like it is. The market is terrified, and who knows how low it can go near term? Value temporarily means nothing. Eventually, value means everything. Don't forget it.

I am not terrified. Yes, my portfolios are declining and I have been losing money. Or have I? I am not selling. I continue to be confident in the long-term prospects of the businesses I own, and their valuations are better than ever, implying less risk of permanent loss.

Take a deep breath, close your eyes, and ask yourself this: "If the market had been closed for the last 3 months, would I be worried about the companies I own? Would I be scared or depressed? If Mr. Market wasn't telling me that I am losing money, would I be worried about it?" If you own quality companies, you should be unconcerned by Mr. Market's manic depression. If you were a private investor in private companies, you would not be thinking about getting out because we might be heading towards (or even already be in) a recession. You would realize that recessions are a fact of life, they average about 10 months long, and then things start looking up. And, you would know you were in it for the long term. You are an INVESTOR.

The flip side here is that if you own companies with questionable long-term prospects, and/or companies with very high valuations, then you should be concerned. It is those situations which lead to permanent loss of capital. See: internet companies and bond guarantors. If you have suspicions about some of your holdings, get out even if they are down a great deal.

It's times like these when it is so important to have confidence in your assessment of your companies' quality and intrinsic value. It is also a good time to refer back to the teachings of Value Investing's equivalent of Yoda, Ben Graham:

The investor who permits himself to be stampeded or unduly worried by unjustified market declines in his holdings is perversely transforming his basic advantage into a basic disadvantage. That man would be better off if his stocks had no market quotation at all, for he would then be spared the mental anguish caused him by other persons' mistakes of judgment.

Rejoice - there are literally TONS of good companies out there on sale - once in a decade - or longer - sales. Put 'em in your IRA and forget about them until the next time the market gets frothy.

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    There is no such thing as a paper loss.
    2008 Jan 18 10:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Great article of the obvious that is all too easy to forget these days
    2008 Jan 18 11:41 AM | Link | Reply
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    The market is off 15% the highs, and we have once in a decade sale? Just another bull market clown.
    2008 Jan 18 12:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    Why does being "in it for the long term" or being an "investor" automatically mean accepting unnecessary losses? If I like a company's long term prospects but see a potentially painful decline coming, tell me why I shouldn't go to cash (money market) for the 10 month life of the average recession and then repurchase at a better price? As you say, good companies will ultimately reject market fears and move back to saner valuations. But is that any reason to completely ignore another of Graham's tenets, namely preservation of capital? Personally, when I see a train coming (even a small one), I step off the tracks until it's passed. Allowing yourself to be pushed backward by that train seems like a symptom of a different emotion: pride.
    2008 Jan 18 12:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    inning 1 just finished. now is a time to wait.

    continually falling house prices represent a contraction of credit.

    much of the economic growth for the last few years was directly from the housing and condo construction industry. these industries have slowed, but are still building faster than demand is increasing, so more jobs will be lost here.

    domestic autos will continue to slide as tighter credit makes them harder to buy and fuel efficiency concerns will make them less desirable.

    this will be a full blown recession, with increased company failures, higher unemployment rates, and truly excellent buying opportunities in the emerging market and renewable energy areas.
    2008 Jan 18 12:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'll try to respond to some of these comments over on my Vestopia blog, vestopia.com/Blogs/Mar...
    2008 Jan 19 07:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    I'm up 17.2% YTD -- ultrashorts and puts. I like that a lot better than watching my longs go down for a long count. The trend is clear. Fight it at your peril.
    2008 Jan 19 10:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Careful. If the Fed cuts 100 bp, I think you're just as likely (if not more) to see the market head down. It's clear that the trend, and the psychology, is negative; if the Fed waves a white flag and signals panic, what do you think investors will do?
    2008 Jan 19 11:33 AM | Link | Reply
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    I see that most of the commentators here are on the short side, and are hoping for more slide down. The Big Money is on the short side, and they have to make profit (even at the cost of a recession), and probably is creating a psychological environment causing more slide).
    I think the average investor should preserve capital, and use a tight stop-loss, and get back in later.

    But I think there are some very strong elements, which may cause the Big Money to switch side, and cause a violent reversal any time:

    (a)The US subprime issues may not affect significantly the growth stories of the rest of the world. The growth environment in India and China are overwhelming - one has to see it to believe it. I have been to India, and my close friend has been to China multiple times. The stories in Brazil, and Russia are probably similar. The summer Olympics is going to intensify activities in China, and statistics show that on the average, the market in the host country gets hotter after the Olympics.

    (b) The subprime issue may be overblwon by the Big Money shorts for making profits. Certainly, there are some some companies in the financial sector are in real danger, but most others will come out fine - may be stronger. The big bankers are possibly writing off much more than they should, which may cause spike in profits in future. I have been active in real estate for 30 years. We hear about falling house prices, but over last 5 years, the vast majority of homeowners are sitting over a hefty appreciation. The houses may not be selling as quickly because of the negative psychological environment, and also prospective buyers are waiting for more bargains.

    Anyway, one should be very careful, but nimble to be able to change on a dime.

    2008 Jan 19 12:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    The average peak to trough for the DOW during a recession since WWII has been around 10.5 months. If you think this is over you are smoking crack.

    If you think there is a near term bottom soon I believe that is entirely possible. There should be at least a few sucker rallys on the way down. It won't go in a straight line.
    2008 Jan 19 04:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think the bottom, or within a couple percent, will be apparent when VIX comes down a bit. To say it another way, it's not going to go back up as fast as it has come down.
    2008 Jan 19 08:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    please generate a rally so i can get an army of shorts out again. there can always be a small rally, but it comes down to the S&P, it is broken and it is going to carry out for a little while longer.
    2008 Jan 19 09:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    just go look at a 500day MA of the S&P. this is the only other serious break of that line in almost 20 years. the other came in the fall of 2000 and we all know how that turned out. i think we got at least another 10% down.
    2008 Jan 19 09:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    The key phrase is Graham's "unjustified market declines". This is a justified market decline, and Ben Graham would undoubtedly be selling.
    2008 Jan 20 12:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    What a whacho way of looking at it! It is obviously true that even if this is a good time to buy, it would be more profitable if you had sold a month earlier. To not have sold earlier was a mistake. It will only prove to be a mistake to sell now if the markets go up from here and you are unable to buy in again at a lower point on a rising market.
    2008 Jan 20 12:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    At this time in the economy, there is a difference of opinion - the Fed says we don't, and probably won't have a recession, while some market pandits say we are already in one.

    Now the Fed probably don't profit from their statements, while the pandits probably are sitting on their shorts, and will profit from further down slide of the market. So, I would think that the Fed is probably correct, and we will have a slo-w-w growth economy, though the sentiment, and big money manipulation can take the market down further. Being a trader, I would try to stay nimble here, I try to make a buck either way, but would love to see a violent upswing, followed by a steady uptrend ! I see a majority of the commentators here may be in the recession camp !! That may be good news !!!
    2008 Jan 20 03:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    This optimisim is ridiculous. The world economy cannot survive $90 oil. Most stock brokers are belching up the silly ideas they learned in college without considering the devistation that peak oil and waring rebels are going to cause to cause to the economy. It may be time to buy but if I were you I wouldn't use my lunch money.
    2008 Jan 20 04:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    If you invest carefully, as I do for my newsletter picks (freundinvesting.com/In...) you can come out smelling like roses even in a recession.

    I am not a stock broker, I do not get paid by the stocks I recommend. I follow Graham and Buffett strategies and they've paid off.

    This kind of environment is where the true investing stars shine brightly, and both myself and my clients are thriving in it using INTELLIGENT INVESTING.

    Regards,
    Ryan
    freundinvesting.com
    2008 Jan 25 05:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    Exactly
    2008 Mar 18 10:19 PM | Link | Reply