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Apple (AAPL) shares are down sharply to their lowest level since June, as several analyst reports have triggered fresh concerns about the state of demand for iPhones and iPods.

Toni Sacconaghi, an analyst at Bernstein Research, has published the transcript of a recent conference call he held with investors on the subject of unlocked iPhones, what they mean to Apple, and what options the company has to deal with them. In a summary of the call, he contends that, while the iPhone has the potential to drive material earnings growth for Apple, the company faces two “significant challenges”: demand appears to be falling short of expectations, and the incidence of unlocking is much higher than expected.

Sacconaghi estimates that the iPhone will be 6% of Apple’s revenues in FY ‘08, but could be nearly a quarter of the total by FY 2012, driving half of the company’s revenue growth over the next four years; and he notes that since the iPhone has a higher gross margin than other Apple products, it could drive 70%-80% of the company’s profit growth.

Sacconaghi says that weekly run-rate sales in the December quarter were about 180,000 units, or less than 10 million on an annualized basis in the busiest quarter of the year for consumer electronics sales. That leads him to conclude that the goal of selling 10 million units in 2008 is optimistic, “particularly if Apple insists on carrier revenue-sharing, without significant price cuts or new model introductions.” He says European sales of the iPhone have been “particularly disappointing,” falling short of carriers’ initial expectations. Sacconaghi is projecting 1.45 million units in the December quarter, 6.9 million for the September 2008 fiscal year and 7.9 million for calendar 2008.

Sacconaghi, who kicked off the “missing iPhones” debate in January, pointing out the wide gap between the number of iPhones Apple has sold and the number of iPhone customers AT&T (T) as the exclusive U.S. carrier has signed up, repeats his previous estimate that 25%-30% of iPhones sold to date have been unlocked for use with carriers other than the one authorized by Apple. He notes that, if Apple sold 10 million iPhones this year but 30% were unlicked, the company would be losing out on $1.1 billion-$1.3 billion of revenue and 80-85 cents a share in EPS over the following two years. He also notes, not for the first time, that the unlocked phones pose a strategic issue, limiting the company’s ability to provide a truly exclusive relationship to carriers, and so reducing their willingness to kick back some subscriber revenue to Apple in return for an exclusive deal.

A few more tidbits.

J.P. Morgan’s Bill Shope on Friday wrote that “with relatively slow unit growth in the holiday season” and the recent price cut for the iPod Shuffle, “signs point to iPod saturation and some macro sensitivity.” He says the Shuffle price cut “is likely intended to boost Shuffle momentum and iPod units overall.” In a separate note, Shope also says that Apple “still seems comfortable with Mac momentum, which remains the critical component of the story at these levels.” He says that Apple execs in a recent meeting would not comment on iPod and iPhone demand concerns, but did say that Mac product family is better positioned than in the last economic downturn.

Morgan Stanley noted Friday that MacBook distributor inventories are “near all-time lows” for the third straight week, but that iMac units are above historical average levels. The iPod Touch, they say, is selling well, with low channel inventory, while Shuffle inventory, which had accumulated in recent months, is down sharply ahead of the arrival of recently unveiled 2GB model.

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    Is there no other analyst following AAPL? One would think not given the amount of ink that you and Vervetka give to Sacconaghi. Next time you three are having a martini at Delmonico's ask him how much revenue Nokia, Rim, and Palm are losing on their unlocked phones. Instead of Apple's 30% unlocked, it is 100% for those companies.
    2008 Feb 24 04:51 PM Reply
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    Toni Sacconaghi is a proven idiot. WHY does anyone quote the garbage he spews??
    2008 Feb 24 05:17 PM Reply
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    There are 26 covering analysts for AAPL. Toni Saccaonaghi is NOT one of them. Gene Munster gives Apple credit for $18 of monthly carrier revs from T in the U.S. Gardner gives Apple credit for $12 a month. Toni S.'s figures here are for over $18.05 a month. That's a great deal of revs for 70% of all iPhones sold.

    Your article has a glaring error with one of the figures. Where you say that Toni project 1.45 million units in the December quarter, it is then accompanied by more sales figures that are of a different type. The 1.45 million units in the December quarter are Toni's projections of the number of UNLOCKED iPhones sold in that quarter...not the total sales of iPhones (which we know were well over 2 million). The 6.9 million and 7.9 million units referred to in the same sentence are for Toni's projected sales of ALL iPhones for their respective periods, including both locked and unlocked iPhones. Your sentence here thus must be read incorrectly in either one of two ways. Either all three sales figures are for unlocked iPhones alone (which would not make sense as that would mean sales of over 26million iPhones in 2008), or all three figures are for total iPhone sales (which would be incorrect as the first figure is a known figure, not a projection which was about 1 million more than 1.45 million).

    It's rather interesting and unfortunate that while we have no idea given to us here exactly how much Toni S. expects Apple revs to be during this time frame, we are given some projected and specific amount that he expects Apple will lose due to unlocked iPhones. So...what's his bottom line for revs then given his figures? Is this lower than some figure he's given before? What figures? Published where and when? I haven't seen any...has he been forthright in giving them? I don't know. Please clarify this. He uses a generous carrier deal rev of $18.05 per month per iPhone. Where's the enthusiasm for billions of dollars in carrier revs for these 70% locked phones...let alone the sales of these phones which represent billions more?

    I can't help but notice that Toni Sacconaghi works for a rather large investment group with about $800 billion dollars in investment assets. Interesting that this same group lost $6 billion in December 2007 and over $49 billion in January 2008. I don't suppose he has any communication with those investment brokers and hedge funds that are owned by his employer concerning AAPL? Just a curious thing. No disclosure given in your article so I don't see why we need to make any particular assumptions or conclusions here, although I've made mine.
    2008 Feb 24 05:36 PM Reply
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    I stand corrected...apparently Toni S. is a "covering analyst" as he was a participant in the latest Apple earnings cc. Unfortunately, I had not recalled that and had based my statement on the Yahoo Finance website information which does not include him among 26 covering analysts. Whether he is or isn't wasn't my main point. The other points are still valid. If I could edit out those two lines, the rest of my comments would be accurate and worth the time to consider them. My apologies for that error. I do own up to it. I hope the author of this article will also send out a correction to his own error concerning the 1.45m (unlocked vs all) iPhones from the December quarter past.
    2008 Feb 24 05:55 PM Reply
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    another point with this 1.45M unlocked phones projection for December quarter is that since there were 2.3M total iPhones sold in the December quarter, 1.45M would represent a rate of unlocked iPhones at 63% (more than double the 25-30% Toni S. claims). Please clarify what this 1.45M figure represents and for what time frame. It is impossible to correlated this 1.45M figure with any of the figures and time frames offered in the rest of the article. It certainly doesn't make any sense for the December quarter past for either total iPhones sold (known to be 2.3M), or for unlocked iPhones (.3*2.3M=690K). This figure doesn't fit well into total iPhones sold through calendar year 2008 either as 1.45M/3.7M is equal to 39% which is well over the 25-30% range Toni projects for total unlocked iPhones. 1.45M is 30% of 4.83M...where does THAT come from? How does that relate to the December quarter? Eric, help us understand what the 1.45M figure is supposed to represent. I sure can't make any sense out of it.
    2008 Feb 24 06:42 PM Reply
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    Toni S. is projecting 6.9M sold in fiscal year ending Sept. 2008. Apple sold 2.3M in first quarter of fy 2008...so only selling 4.6M in 3 more quarters?...that's an avg of 1.55M per quarter for those final three quarters (ending Sept 2008). Toni S. is projecting 7.9M sold in calendar year 2008. This averages out to 1.975M sold per calendar year quarter (7.9M/4=1.975M).

    So, how does Toni go from an avg of 1.55M per quarter through September 2008 but also with an avg of 1.975M for those three quarters plus the following quarter (Dec. 2008; fy 09 q1) combined? The final quarter would have to see sales of 3.25M units in order to reach his projection (1.55+1.55+1.55+3.25=7... Obviously, that last quarter is always a good quarter for Apple products, iPhone included. But this would mean that Apple would sell double the iPhone units in that one quarter over all other quarters in the calendar year. Is that realistic?

    His assertions/projections make no sense. Apple projects 10M iPhones sold in cy 2008 and they've affirmed in the last cc that reaching this goal is not outside of their expectations. Toni S. says that not only is Apple wrong or lying about it (it has to be one or the other), the rate of iPhone sales will be absolutely horrible for 3/4 of cy 2008 and then make an incredible rebound in the final cy quarter, more than doubling it's sales rate from any of the other 3 quarters and smash through their previous best quarter by over 1 million units.

    It appears that the iPhone will be a huge seller from what Toni S. projects. Yet, the premise of this article is that Toni S. claims that the carrier deals will lead to slow sales and an inability by Apple to meet their 10M cy2008 sales goal. He claims that "demand is falling" for the iPhone. 3.3M units sold in one quarter is to be described as "falling demand." Who are you kidding?!?

    If you wanted to make this stuff up, you could do a better job than this. If that's not the point, I suggest that someone needs to find a job they're better at. This is horrible reporting and horrible work by a covering analyst.
    2008 Feb 24 07:08 PM Reply
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    Job's said 10 million by the end of 2008. A big difference, even when you are talking about one of the most successful consumer product launches ever ( how many xboxes which cost less when you add in the AT&T contract, sold in the same period? ) Apple is easily half way there. Listening skills should be important for any analyst. It could easily turn out to be 10 million locked plus millions more unlocked by December 31, 2008.
    2008 Feb 24 07:19 PM Reply
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    considering the zerro debt and the current /new products/with the new markets i.e. China --Japan etc for 08 what would be the share cost for aapl---last quarter's responce to their earnings and the aapl forcast for lower volume sales (which is usual after Dec sales)for this quarter plus the lower sales are in sync with economic forcasts for 08, this stock was hammered---i just could not imagine the aapl stock price if aapl missed their target last quarter --it seems logic and business sence goes out the window when aapl is reviewed
    2008 Feb 25 10:54 AM Reply
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    There you go - one more opportunity for Apple fans to bash the reality. Are Apple fans living in NeverLand or are they paid by Steve Jobs? The days of iPod hitting the sales numbers are over. Wake up, Apple fans. It's time for reality check and the stock is going nowwhere for next 18 months. There is no growth in Apple's product lines, unless their fans want to keep buying these iPods and iPhones. Where is the 10 millionth iPhone? Wait until summer 2008 for another $100 price cut for iPhone.
    2008 Feb 25 11:28 AM Reply
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    the aapl store will be open for business in china for the olympics--do you think the aapl products/iphone will be sold to the local talent ---you must realize the iphone is doing well at this time in china by the reports of the black market sales
    2008 Feb 25 11:30 AM Reply
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    if 1% market share = 10m iphone sales and there is a projection of 4% market share in 08 --you do the math
    2008 Feb 25 12:01 PM Reply
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    My dear friends (tom1234 and User 155370) - Wake up from your deep slumber. Wait until Apple stock bottoms at $90 before Olympics. If you guys are so desperate to sell 10 million iPhones, then try to open an AT&T franchise in your home town and sell few iPhones. Or go to Olympics and sell the Chinese some iPhones. Don't come to these forums and throw crap at what analysts have spent time to research. People are sick of Apple fanatics and their arm twisting tactics in all forums. If you guys are so smart, then Steve Jobs should hire you immediately.
    2008 Feb 25 02:03 PM Reply
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    just sticking to the topic here.

    if we assume Toni's figures are correct (debatable), there are a number of interesting conclusions. his fiscal year 6.9M projection by $400 (conservative since the iPhone is now $399 and $499) comes to revs of $2.76 Billion...if that' 6% of Apple fy2008 revs...we're looking at $46Billion in revs for 2008 which is $10B higher than analyst average and this doesn't include his 70% locked into carrier revs at his own figure of $18.05 mo...which if you avg this down at a median month per quarter declining through the fy...add another $605M in revs (which should be included) and add that to the iPhone revs from unit sales and the iPhone revs then become $3.365B for fy2008 which if is 6% of Apple revs for fy2008...we get $56B in revs...a full $20B over analyst average. Wow! Thanks Toni for figuring this out! These are incredible projections!
    2008 Feb 25 05:41 PM Reply