Why iPhone Unlocking is Growing Every Day 33 comments
February 25, 2008
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While many of my readers are technology sorts, more of my readers are from the financial side of things. As a result, while they know the words "unlocking iPhone", and they know it is becoming an issue for Apple, it is something of an abstract notion.
Let's make it concrete. Point-and-click tools have made iPhone unlocking a straightforward and relatively trouble-free issue, turning something complex, time-consuming and fraught with opportunities to "brick" your iPhone into something only marginally more complex than running an anti-virus update.
Consider the following GUI overlay for one popular unlock tool:
Anyone still wondering why unlocked iPhone numbers are almost certainly bigger than Wall Street thinks?
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Does it only count AGAINST them, and not FOR them? What kind of sick game is this anyway?
The sophistry of some of what passes for discourse on this site is astounding!
This so-called loss of revenue is already pre-estimated in the
i-Phone sales. It's making money 'unlocked', just like the iPod.
Only the financial guys are making a big deal out of this.
Really? I think of T as being more Republican, with all the illegal wiretapping of US citizens and all.
"And nobody mentions that in the US the only networks this phone can run on is AT&T and T-Mobile since it is GSM and not CDMA. So is still driving growth to AT&T."
That's why I added some ATT along with my AAPL. More AAPL, of course. Yea, Verizon, while touting their "great network" is still screwing around with CDMA. God, I hate Verizon-- I wish my wife would let me "switch".
Get a backbone and just switch to AT&T. My wife is still on Verizon because she didn't want a smart phone. Now I only talk to her during "off-peak" minutes.
I just got the iPhone 2 weeks ago, and I must say I lost 6 months of use and learning about a great device because I thought Verizon had the best network. What I now found is that, in some areas, AT&T cell service is waaaaaaaay better that Verizon, and in only a few areas is Verizon cell service better than AT&T. Also, EDGE is not THAT slow. Only very complex, heavy graphic web sites take time to load. All other web sites are VERY reasonable. The EDGE network problem is another BS story that kept me from getting the iPhone until recently.
As far as 3G goes, when I'm ready to upgrade, I'll pass the original iPhone onto a family member or sell it on ebay.
EVERYTHING from my PowerBook synced over: Address Book, iCal, my notes etc. The iPhone is a beauty!
Will the author take financial and legal responsibility, or any responsibility for that matter, for misleading readers into complacency and false sense of security?
Does it only count AGAINST them, and not FOR them? What kind of sick game is this anyway?
No, it's not funny at all. Recently, any news about Apple is turned into negative news. Deferred payments are a long term-almost invisible cash flow, but x00,000 unlocked iPhones becomes an instant loss to drive the stock down immediately. The people that are yelling "huge amounts of lost revenue" don't even take into consideration that eventually they may be used on a legal carrier when an iPhone rollout takes place. Either way, the iPhone is getting advance recognition and still making hardware profits in countries that don't yet have access to legal carrier iPhones.
Also this crap about weakness of iPod sales. An iPhone is in fact an iPod with cellphone capabilities. If you added iPhone and iPod sales together Apple would have sold more than enough iPods to satisfy the analysts. Okay, Apple calls it an iPhone, but it could have easily been called the iPodPhone. I'm willing to bet that eventually the product lines will merge into one as time goes by when 4G WIMAX or LTE start taking over. The iPod Touch line really should have VoIP capabilities when the SDK comes out. The only problem is that it doesn't have voice input yet. I guess a dongle could handle it, though.
If the AT&T deal had never existed, wouldn't everyone be raving about being able to sell 10 million new devices at $399-499 with great margins even before the 2nd year is out? What am I missing?
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It was a good and helpful article.
The knee-jerk reaction from the apple faithful is actually useful information for serious investors: It shows that many people who own AAPL are still emotionally wedded to the stock, suggesting to sentiment watchers that AAPL might have further to fall.
It would be interesting to construct some kind of sentiment measure based on the comments on Seeking Alpha articles.
Why should I be limited to AT&T if I want to use an iPhone?
The message of this article is that a lot of people don't want to be limited in that way, and technology companies' attempts to restrict choice are unlikely to succeed.
Jim Cramer's 10 Predictions for 2008
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"Apple (AAPL), he predicts, will reach $300."
The Apple of Our Eye (Sramana Mitra)
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"Conceivably, the stock price will spend a lot more time in the above $200 zone this year, especially after the holiday quarter results are out."
Needham Starts Coverage of Apple with $235 Target (Eric Savitz)
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Apple's Target and Estimates Upped by Goldman (Eric Savitz)
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Some thoughts on this:
1. Why didn't the apple faithful complain about those articles -- they encouraged people to buy the stock when it was at it's 52 week high, just before it collapsed.
2. On the sentiment issue now, while the comments are still massively pro-apple, most articles are now bearish on the stock. That suggests to me that the stock might have bottomed.
In that vein, I simply can't understand why Apple-lovers get so twisted in a knot when anyone posts even the most benignly negative article on their stock. In every transaction, there is a seller and a buyer. If you think the sellers are wrong, fade them. If you think they're right, sell along with them.
If you think Apple's the greatest thing since sliced bread, you should be thanking Kedrosky and anyone else who helps push prices lower -- so you can load up the boat.
If you want to understand how AAPL stock price and sentiment work, see:
seekingalpha.com/artic...
or the updated original article:
www.crossprofit.com/ar...
Yes, AAPL will go back up eventually, but based on consumer confidence and NOT necessarily EPS.
As the article states, we saw this coming back in September/October 2007. We also forecast that AAPL will rebound before the end of 2008. As we are not prophets, exactly when consumer confidence changes is unknown. Just follow the consumer confidence numbers and watch AAPL go up or down in tandem.
See www.crossprofit.com/vi...
We do not envision a decoupling of this phenomena any time soon and expect this to continue throughout 2008.
We trust that the above eases the temporary pain of long term AAPL shareholders. If you haven't sold until now, then we would hold (now @$120 PS).
CrossProfit (consensus)
"In that vein, I simply can't understand why Apple-lovers get so twisted in a knot when anyone posts even the most benignly negative article on their stock."
Two explanations:
1)there is no "rational" price for a stock like Apple. One-trick pony companies that sell low margin products (I'm thinking Amazon) have in recent months commanded HUGE P/E's. If Apple commanded a 60 P/E for a while-- whoa-- wouldn't that be huge? I'd sell and "go home".
2) Apple fans are touchy because there is a pretty large stable of "journalist" who really do seem to like to single out Apple and pick on them. I suspect some have a financial motive and some spread FUD at Microsoft's behest to maintain the meme that Apple is a "niche player". They surely don't HAVE to be; anyone can benefit by upgrading to a Mac.
BTW: People should only listen to Cramer for entertainment purposes. I didn't buy any Apple at 200-- my last large-ish chunk was at $85 last March, and I've had some since 2001.