Hitting the Reset Button On Home Mortgages 30 comments
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Alan Blinder, Princeton economics professor and former Vice Chair of the Fed, has a piece in Monday's NY Times business section on how to restructure the mortgages that are in trouble and are causing so much heartburn in our financial markets. He is mostly commenting on the "Dodd-Frank" proposal for the government insuring troubled mortgages.
I think this is basically a good idea. If the government is going to bail out the people trading with Bear Stearns (BSC) in an effort to calm the markets, then they might as well go right to the source of the poison and clean up the mortgage mess. But, it has to be done right. And I think that insuring the mortgages instead of buying them, as was done in the depression, is an idea with some merit.
But there are a bunch of things about the Dodd-Frank proposal and Blinder's additional thoughts that concern me.
As I understand the Dodd-Frank proposal, the lenders will take a write-down on the non-performing loans instead of foreclosing on the loans. The lenders will then trade the non-performing loans for new federally insured loans and realize a loss on the old non-performing loan.
All of that makes sense to me. These loans are not worth 100 cents on the dollar because not only are they non-performing, but the collateral has fallen in value as well. It makes sense to realize the losses and convert the bad paper into good paper. And, it makes sense that the government is going to have to do something to comfort the market. Insuring the loans is an idea that at least ought to be explored, even though we are talking about putting taxpayer money at risk.
But here are my questions/concerns:
- Who sets the value of the new loan? If the government is going to
insure it, how can the market really price it? The best approach would
be to have the market price the value of the loan based on a
non-insured deal, then have the government insure it. That way the
taxpayers are only insuring a market deal.
- How do you avoid giving the homeowner a total bailout in the
process? Let's say I bought a home for $250,000, put no money down, and
have monthly mortgage payments of $1,500 a month. Let's say the home
has dropped in value to $200,000 and I can really only afford to pay
$1,200 a month. The market value of that loan is probably in the range
of $175,000. The current owner should take a $75,000 loss, and let it
trade to a new holder (or keep it), get federal insurance, and get paid
$1,200 per month for the remainder of the loan.
All of that makes sense to me. But do I (as the homeowner) only have to pay off $175,000 or $250,000? If the deal is I only have to pay $175,000, then that's a great deal for the homeowner, and should we be doing that?
I think we need to look at what would happen if the government didn't step in, and then work from there. If the government doesn't step in, the holder of the loan is going to foreclose on the loan, take the home, sell it (in my example for $200,000 less transaction costs), and take a loss. That loss is going to be between $50,000 and $75,000.
The homeowner is going to lose his home, but since he didn't have any money down, he doesn't have any financial losses. He does have to give up a home that he and his family may have come to love.
If the government can come up with a scheme to get the mortgage holders basically what they would be getting in a foreclosure situation (the market price of the collateral less transaction costs) and allow the homeowners to stay in their homes and have a high probability of staying current on the loan going forward, then we will have achieved a number of good things.
We will avoid a glut of foreclosed homes from coming on the market, further depressing home prices. We will convert bad loans to good loans. And, we will keep people as homeowners who have a vested interest in maintaining and improving their homes instead of putting them back into the rental market.
So let's go back to Blinders's piece in the Times. As to my first question about how these loans get priced, he suggests:
My suggestion is that the Super F.H.A. categorize the mortgages it might refinance into, say, “high,” “medium” and “low” qualities and, based on its best guesses of fair market value, post initial buying prices for each type.
I don't like that idea. There's not enough of a market at work for my taste. I think they should just do a new appraisal on the property and price the loan at 90% of the appraised value. Then, apply federal insurance and reset the payment plan so that the homeowner pays off the new appraised value plus a market interest rate in 30 years. That should do the trick.
As to my second question about how you avoid giving the homeowner a windfall, Blinder says:
The proposal would make homeowners relinquish part of any price appreciation on their houses for as long as their Super F.H.A. mortgages remain in effect. Good idea. But I’d go further, by also making beneficiaries of the plan forfeit the right to take out second mortgages or home equity loans.
There is some sound thinking in this part. First, a homeowner who has a federally insured loan should not be able to borrow against the home as long as that loan is outstanding, period. As to who captures the "discount," it makes sense to me that the homeowner and the federal agency which insures the mortgage should share in the appreciation of the home between the new loan value and the old loan value.
You don't want to give the entire discount to the homeowner because that's just a huge gift, possibly at taxpayer expense. But you do want the homeowner to continue to have an interest in making the home better and seeing it appreciate. You also want the the federal agency to get some of this appreciation to offset the risk it is taking. As to what the percentage should be, I say 20% to the homeowner and 80% to the federal agency.
These are my thoughts on the proposal. As I said, I think it's basically a good idea. This mortgage mess should be cleaned up, and using the traditional method of foreclosure and resale is not a great idea in a time of crisis like we are currently in. Let's hit the reset button and put the government in the mix, but do it in a way that reflects the market values and doesn't give the homeowners a huge windfall.
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A good percentage of people who are in danger of foreclosure shouldn't have been in the home in the first place.
I have been on my block for about 5 years now. In the last 8 months there have been 4 foreclosures (I live in Miineapolis). Of those foreclosures, one was a cut to pieces mansion for rental units that I have offered the value of the land minus tear down costs (after foreclosure). It really is that bad. Two of the home are valued higher but are really the least valuable homes on the block (they are like track homes in a neighborhood of turn of the century architecture). The final home is a traditional home symbolic of the neighborhood.
OK, now onto the "owners". The first home was occupied by some young partier who threw outrageous parties with sword fighting and the likes at all hours. Foreclosed, I am sure failure to make payments. The second two were occupied by people who had migrated home to home as renters and were always evicted (either by the city (condemnation) or the landlord). The fourth one was occupied by a couple who took out an arm loan and invested all of thier savings into a restaraunt in 2007. A start up restaraunt.
Ok, if you ask me, the only people who should have been in their home are the restauranteers. The other three occupiers did not belong in the position of having a mortgage to be responsible for. They couldn't even handle a lease for god's sake.
So, as far as I can see, at best 75% of the people in this bad debt situation should have never been there in the first place. So, no we should NOT bail them out. If the government wants to step in, well, let them help the couple who made a mistake in their mortgage choices and the choices of their business start up. At least they were willing to risk what they had to possibly provide a better life for themselves and others as well as provide for a larger tax base.
Seriously folks, you are not going to entrust your Maserati Quattroporte Executive GT to an alcoholic with a BAC of 0.33%. Just the same as you are not going to entrust your retirement porfolio to the homeless guy on the park bench.
Let's stop with the broad sweeping regulatory changes. Pretty soon home ownership will be a right, and the governemnt will be bailing out everyone. Driving is a priviledge, and so IS HOME OWNERSHIP. THESE ARE PRIVILEDGES YOU HAVE TO TAKLE SERIOUSLY AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
Hey, what about me? I bought a home for $251,900 in 2005. I paid down $52,000 already. Yep, I got extra money and expected the stock market to tank someday soon... So, I kept making big lump sum payments to my mortgage figuring 5.875% return on those payments were better than the market beating I'd take soon.
So I guess I wasted my money. The government would have regulated my home to a principal balance of $200k without any help from me.
Man, do I feel stupid for being responsible.
No... seriously... I feel really really really stupid.
I've been saving money just to buy their foreclosed properties and now it won't happen.
some white men in expensive suits need to go to jail for this mess.
as for the bailout proposals, they need to differentiate between home investors and home owners, because investors shouldn't be bailed out. maybe some witless owners should. how to tell the difference?
if you can sustainably afford your original loan, you are an owner. if you can't, you're an investor. any bailout should only help people who can afford their loans, but who are now incentivised to abandon them because of negative equity.
There would be other requirements such as it must be owner occupied and a limit of one such loan per taxpayer. There may also be a time limit window of maybe two years for this program. It would be imperative that Borrower Fraud regarding this loan would not be tolerated and immediate repossession, mandatory jail time and fines would be imposed.
Bottom line is that if you can't afford a low interest home loan on your verifiable, taxable income, then maybe you overbought and/or mis-stated your income and home ownership may not be for you.
We already subsidized their real estate speculation by giving them tax deductions on their mortgage interest. Now we have to take their losses, too? Outrageous.
This is not the problem, it is the solution. The problem is that houses are overpriced. The markets are seized because home owners won't sell their home at what the market values it at. We need to accept this, allow prices to fall, and move on.
We also need to stop acting as if "homeowner" is a sacred class. I did not think buying a home in 2005 made financial sence. I chose to continue renting. People looking for a bail out now should never have bought and will merely go back to renting as they should have all along. Let's stop acting as if this is an injustice.
The majority went in with eyes open hoping for the bubble to continue and to get out in two to five years with tax advantaged big capital gains. They gambled and lost, tough luck and good luck next time. In any case, the bailout is for the lenders, and if interest rates continue to be lowered, maybe another bubble down the road. I lived in Argentina, a nation in almost perpetual stagflation, and every time the housing bubble busted, it revived again a few years later when other speculative outlets dried up. The Argentines were flipping years before the US bubble. But all you stock market fanatics should look to property price recoveries and rents for the long term (think in 10 year periods) by getting started now. I bought residential and a little industrial in the early 1990s downturn in CA and would be a sad sack today if I had just depended on my gambling in equities for my retirement.
These start-up mortgage types skimmed billions off the top of YOUR money, and fed their insatiable appetite by "giving" loans to their maids, gardeners, plumbers, firemen, mayors, policemen and anyone else stupid enough to jump on their greedy-train.
Lenders were glad to throw cash at these mortgage punks. Hey - the gov't backed it up with insurance. The Mortgage Bankers Association threw billions into Congress for new yachts, beach homes, airplanes and the like. As long as their congress-person made foreclosure laws favorable to the lenders. As long as they made laws that fully protected their mortgage investments.
NOOOO - as normal citizens we don't get OUR investments fully 100% insured do we? But they do! They wanted their investments fully funded and they paid the gov't to pass the laws.
They've got their billions, new beachfront villa in the Portugal Algarve, new G5 jet to get around. They bought, manipulated and raped the system. And you paid for it.
"GET OUT! You're a month late" [yahoooo, let's cash in and buy the cigarette boat]
Anyway, I retired after 40 years of working, at the end of 2004, the same year I purchased a new house and doubled my mortgage payments. I intend to pay for it with my pension and with my savings and investments. If I fail to do so, I do not expect the government to bail me out. It is a risk that I took upon myself and if I come to the point where I cannot may the payment to keep the house, I will sell it and purchase something smaller that I can afford or rent if I have to. My point is, these are my choices, made with the backing of my money and no one elses. I certainly do not expect the government to step in and bail me out with TAXPAYER money. What is wrong with people? You make the decisions, you reap the benefits........or the disaster. Take responsibility!
I would invest the monthly savings in gold - that I can hold in my hand - and it would be in a safe deposit box. That would be the only gold portion of my portfolio.
Which is worse, bad credit for a relatively short time, or spending the rest of my life paying off a home I could never get out from under? The home loan is a secured loan. The bank gets their "security" in the end.
Otherwise, NOBODY in his/her sound state of mind will make any mortgage payment. Just live in a house or a mansion and pay nothing. Foreclosure? What foreclosure? Hillary, Obama and the rest will just outlaw foreclosure.
Do you expect anybody will build a single new house? No way!
Do you think anybody will work? No, what for?
Do you think there will be any food in supermarkets? No.
Will such society last for long? No.
A historical note:
Back in 1917, similar "forgiveness"/anarchy situation took place in Russia. It did not last long. It led to the Bolshevik coup, the civil war, and dictatorship. 25%+ of the entire population were slaughtered and/or starved to death.
the only reason why housing prices are going down is because these houses are overpriced regardless of foreclosures or no foreclosures.
If a house is foreclosed and the house is auctioned then someone will buy it for the right/market price.
Do you get it? Or do you think the government must support housing prices? If yes, at what level?
Once prices drop to fair value, there will be buyers. Prices were just unsustainable and it is just prudent to let it take its own course. The government should not get into this. Where were these guys when there was rampant fraud and manipulation going on? 750k mortgage for a strawberry picker with 15k annual income? Do you want to bail them out with your tax dollars?