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From Bill Miller's First Quarter 2008 letter (.pdf) dated 4/23/08, to investors in Legg Mason Value Trust [LMVTX]:

After an awful quarter in which our fund dropped 19.7% compared to a loss of 9.4% for the benchmark S&P 500, we have begun to perform better. In the first few weeks of the quarter, the S&P 500 is up just over 5% and we are up a bit more. Our lead widens if you look back to the Monday the Bear Stearns rescue by JPMorgan was announced. While neither I nor anyone else knows if our period of underperformance is over, it ought to be, if valuation begins to matter more and momentum less in how the market behaves.

To put our results in some context, in our 26-year history, we have outperformed our benchmark 20 calendar years and underperformed 6 calendar years. Since I assumed sole management of the fund, we have outperformed 15 years and underperformed 2 (the last 2 obviously). On a rolling 12-month basis, we have outperformed 60% of the time since inception, and 68% of the time since I took over. Our relative performance this past quarter was the worst in our history, as we trailed the market by just over 1000 basis points. We have had 3 previous quarters where we trailed by over 700 basis points, 2 of which were in the 1989-1990 period which I have previously likened to this in terms of the economic and market backdrop. We have had 3 worse quarters in absolute terms: the quarter the market crashed in 1987, the 9/11 quarter, and the third quarter of 1990...

For planning purposes, here is my forecast: I think we will do better from here on, and that by far the worst is behind us. I think the credit panic ended with the collapse of Bear Stearns, and credit spreads are already much improved since then. If spreads continue to come in, the write-offs at the big financials will end, and we may even have some write-ups in the second half instead of write-downs. Valuations are attractive, and valuation spreads are now about one standard deviation above normal, a point at which valuation-based strategies usually begin to work again, and momentum begins to fade (there is no evidence of the latter yet, as the old leaders continue to lead). Most housing stocks are up double digits this year despite dismal headlines, a sign the market had already priced in the current malaise. I think likewise we have seen the bottom in financials and consumer stocks, but not necessarily the bottom in headlines about the woes in those sectors. Although the economy is likely to struggle as it did in the early 1990s, the market can move higher, as it did back then.

The wild card is commodities. If commodities break, or even just stop their relentless rise, equity markets should do well. If they continue to move steadily higher, they have the potential to destabilize the global economy. We are already seeing unrest in many countries due to the soaring prices of rice and other grains. Oil has rallied $30 per barrel in the past 8 weeks on no fundamental news, save only the same stories about fears of supply disruptions. The typical fundamental drivers at the margin, such as global economic growth, miles driven, and seasonality, would all suggest prices similar to those that prevailed in early February. But none of that has mattered. I agree with George Soros that commodities are in a bubble, but it also appears he is right when he describes it as one that is still inflating, and we still have the summer driving and hurricane season with which to contend.

Top Ten Holdings of the Legg Mason Value Trust as of March 31, 2008 : Amazon.com Inc. (6.5%), The AES Corp. (6.4%), JPMorgan Chase and Co. (5.0%), Aetna Inc. (4.9%), UnitedHealth Group Inc. (4.5%), Yahoo Inc. (4.4%), eBay Inc. (4.2%), General Electric Co. (4.0%), Sears Holding Corp. (4.0%), and Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (3.5%).

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    Oh please. Zero accountability. Zero credibility. Read on folks.

    Bill Miller of Legg Mason is a perfect example of what is wrong with the mutual fund industry and all the conflicts of interest.

    He is actually a lousy money manager who got "lucky" by managing money during the greatest bull market of the 20th century, and with the help of companies such as Morningstar, they made him out to be some genius.

    During bull markets any bonehead can beat the market.

    It is during bear markets, or not so great markets, that truly good money managers excel. Bill Miller's Legg Mason Value Primary may have beaten the S & P during the 2000-2003 bear market, however it did by just a hair each year. Meaning Miller was paid millions to essentially lose 40% of his clients money over that time period while getting paid MILLIONS of dollars.

    That is not money management. How many of you out there have that 100 foot yacht, and a bank account worth 100 million from collecting fees from the money you manage, regardless if you are a lousy manager?

    Bill Miller got lucky betting on a few stocks at a time and that works in bull markets. It is becoming obvious thru the previous bear market and today's lousy market that Bill Miller's "fame" is nothing more than hype, enabled by the media and Morningstar.
    Bill Miller's Value Trust is exactly where it was around 1998. Thats right, he has been paid millions over the past 10 years and essentially those in his fund have made nothing, unless you were lucky enough to get in, in 2003. And even there he is on his way to breaching those levels. All that money he was paid and the fund has a 10 year annualized return of less than 4% which is less than a percent more than the
    S & P 500 over the same period.

    The man is given to much credit for a lousy job and should be "returning money" to investors out of his own pocket for his lousy performance.
    2008 Apr 24 07:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    Nice take down archman...I'm right with you.
    2008 Apr 24 07:41 AM | Link | Reply
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    Bill Miller waiting for times,when buying cheap stocks will outperform again. Good luck...
    "Fake-Value" investing did well for years and peaked in 2005 and won't come back anytime soon.
    I guess he will sit on his big bets like S,SHLD,EK,AET,C,UNH,an... wait till the "stupid" market catches up with his illusionary "value".
    Iconically it's more likely fundamentals will catch down to market prices IMO.
    Is he still waiting for the market to recognize the value of BSC at $200 and CFC at $80?
    At least he can't average down forever as his funds have outflows.

    Bill Miller proved in recent years he can not differentiate between "Real Value" a cheap "Value Traps".
    2008 Apr 24 08:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    Go with solars!

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    2008 Apr 24 08:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    Bill, weren't you the guy who was a conference somewhere when Bear Stearns was imploding and you were informed by an attendee that your position was getting killed. My question is, if this is the end of the credit crisis, how did you find out? Did a cab driver tell you? A supermarket checkout girl?
    2008 Apr 24 08:35 AM | Link | Reply
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    Things are going to get better from here? To bad your biggest holding, AMZN, warned last night.
    2008 Apr 24 09:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    I am so proud of you commentors taking this guy to the wood shed. It just brings tear to my eyes. Like my baby taking its first step.

    Choke snort
    2008 Apr 24 09:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    thanks for the comments
    2008 Apr 24 09:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    A quotation from the above article:

    "For planning purposes, here is my forecast: I think we will do better from here on, and that by far the worst is behind us."

    and a quotation from an earlier article (November '07)from the same author as he discussed Countrywide Financial (CFC) that currently trades in the $5 range.

    "The price action on both sides was driven by emotion -- first fear, then relief -- and was hardly the result of a careful analysis of Countrywide's long term business value. That, by the way, we think is in the $40's compared to its current price of about $14-15."



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    2008 Apr 24 10:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    If there are an infinite number of monkeys, one of them will surely solve the theory of relativity or any other problem for that matter. Bill is that monkey who did solve it. Pure luck I would say. Shame on him for sending investors money to high p/e high beta crap stocks, so that he can enrich himself. Really shame on him. He wants you to buy this crap so he can beat S&P, see the tone in his article, he is more obsessed about beating S&P than anything else. How about addressing all the money that this ass clown lost...
    2008 Apr 24 10:25 AM | Link | Reply
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    Interesting article and more interesting comments. I guess I just don't understand how amazon.com, his largest holding, is a value play....It seems drastically overpriced by every metric I look at especially in the face of dropping consumer spending. I would not be surprised to this company lose 20 percent over their value or more over the next few months...
    2008 Apr 24 10:48 AM | Link | Reply
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    While he may do so for his own functions, as no doubt does Soros, Miller does not publically differentiate those "commodities" into classes that are affected by distribution (and politics) from those affected by goods produced for consumption (copper, steel, etc.).

    Why Gold is still looked on as a commodity as opposed to its role in monetary matters remains a mystery. Habit?
    2008 Apr 24 10:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    The only BUBBLE out there is by people like Miller who have missed the commodity move and call the move a BUBBLE.
    2008 Apr 24 11:04 AM | Link | Reply
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    Come clean BM on the pursuit of illusions and the truth will set you free: One can have all the money in the world but ultimately nothing if not at peace with themselves. LB
    2008 Apr 24 11:04 AM | Link | Reply
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    "Prosperity is just around the corner"--Herbert Hoover, -R

    Hope does spring eternal among the wishful thinkers.

    2008 Apr 24 02:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    Here's what I think we should do. Follow Bill's advice that CFC is worth $40, get Bernanke to buy all the stock, re-open Bear Stearns, let them leverage the stock at 30:1 sell everything to China and the Middle East (get our money back) and buy all of our government agencies a decent IT system, rebuild New Orleans and take care of student loans at 0 interest and buy up a pacel of foreclosed houses. Then we can give Bill a Congressional medal and make him a Secretary in the next administration. Problem solved.....
    2008 Apr 24 04:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    Well, it is obvious that Bill Miller has no risk control mechanism. How otherwise could he trash a formerly good reputation and track record with, now, three years in a row of spectacularly bad performance? Low PE is not a substitute for analysis and thinking. How do you load up on homebuilders and financials on the first dip and think they are cheap, missing the obvious structural problems? How can you say you do analysis? How can you say you have a risk control mechanism? Low PE investing can be just as much "black box" speculation as momentum investing. Stocks will no more automatically go up just because they are cheap than they will automatically continue to go up just because they are working. He combines both flaws in the same portfolio!
    2008 Apr 24 04:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    sounds like a bunch of very intelligent people commenting;
    who needs this looser ?
    2008 Apr 24 05:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    Comments are way too negative. Miller is a contrarians while most of the turkeys gobbling here are momentum players.

    I suggest read his letter carefully before hitting the publish button. Look at his top ten holdings - I'd buy each one of them except AMZN and he bought AMZN when it was cheap.

    2008 Apr 24 11:40 PM | Link | Reply
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    I hope all of you, like me, own stocks directly. When we mis-step and something goes down, 1-1/2 percent is not taken from the remainder as a management fee.

    And when we step wisely and our holding soars. We don't have to take 1-1/2 percent off the top, we can let it ride.

    But Miller may make a point. When the other wise guy investment bankers saw Bear Stearns annihilated, and then turned over to a commercial, regulated bank....they may have given them pause to not turn on their fellow investment bankers.

    They realize if they go back to being sharks, like they were withj Bear, they could wind up eating themselves.
    2008 Apr 25 12:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Nice try Bob but your views are nothing more than sheer hope. Neither you nor anyone else for that matter knows what is in store for markets from here. But I can't blame you for talking your book (pumping up the stocks you hold) to encourage others to buy them as well...

    The one important takeaway is that secular bear markets are punctuated by powerful bull trap rallies driven by the type of sheer speculation in which you engage. Just look at the Nikkei 225 over the last 18 years - there have been a total of 6 powerful rallies, the last of which saw prices rally more than 100% before rolling over (see Figure 2 tradesystemguru.com/co.../ ).

    So while I can't blame you for talking your book, let's see if for what it really is. You're a salesman selling your views to encourage suckers to buy the same book or perhaps help you exit yours...
    2008 Apr 25 12:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    Correction: Bill (not Bob)...
    2008 Apr 25 01:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    Clearly all of you have absolutely no idea what the heck it is that you're talking about. Miller and his team are one of the most inquisitive managers I've every followed. He's 15-2.5 so far since he took over the fund and criticisms are the same as those Buffett received when he underperformed during the tech rally. Either of you idiots could have easily bought into energy and metals and outperformed during the last 2 years, but lets see how long that lasts into the future playing that momentum game. Plus, Buffett has already crowned Miller as one of the super investors and I doubt any one of you would take up an offer to argue your point face to face with the oracle. And plus....low PE / High PE has nothing to do with value. These as simply factors that may provide insight into the valuation of a company but in no way suggest an investment is either under or over valued...just goes to show how much all you really understand investing. I've got better things to do.....
    2008 Apr 25 10:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    The comment from Coast to Coast sounds like it could have been written by Bill Miller himself... except that it makes no sense whatsoever. Sounds like it could be someone who works in his office... or a friend but who hasn't a clue about the markets or how to write.
    2008 Apr 27 03:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think Bill Miller is smiling because he has made a very decent living as a Chief Financial Officer. If you follow his link for Legg Mason’s First Quarter 2008 results, my observation is there is no advantage in investing in these funds compared to the S&P 500 when considering expenses. He points out in the newsletter that in the last 26 years the Legg Mason funds have outperformed in 20 years and underperformed in 6 years.

    If you look at the current portfolio:

    Stock April 25 price 1 year range
    AMZN 80 60-102
    AES 18 16-24
    JPM 48 36-53
    AET 44 39-60
    UNH 34 33-59
    YHOO 27 19-34
    EBAY 31 25-41
    GE 33 32-42
    SHLD 100 85-194
    FRE 28 17-68

    The Bill Miller critics will point to his picks compared to the high number and the Bill Miller followers will make comparisons to the low number in the 1 year range. No one’s mind will change and Bill will keep smiling, especially if some people think he is in the same class as Warren Buffet.




    2008 Apr 28 07:01 AM | Link | Reply