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1) The rating agencies have been running like crazy. They do that when they are behind the curve. Whether it is Moody’s on subprime, or S&P on Alt-A lending, the downgrades are coming in packs. Then there are difficulties with the debts of real estate partnerships, like LandSource Communities Development, which is likely to file for insolvency, together with some residential developers.
2) Now, there have been a few summary pieces on how the rating agencies changed as the housing boom moved on. Here is one from the New York Times, and one from the Wall Street Journal. As I had commented long before in my writings at RealMoney, the rating agencies were co-dependent with those that paid them. That said, it would be hard to construct a system that would not be that way. Buyers don’t have a concentrated interest in ratings. Issuers do.
3) If I were Ambac (AKF), I would be doing all that I could to allege fraud on contracts where representations and warranties were not upheld. Ambac is fighting to survive.
4) Mortgage insurers — it is the best of times, if you survive, because you are the almost the only game in town for those wanting to do low down payments, and rates for mortgage insurance are way up. But, it is the worst of times, housing prices are falling, rating agencies are downgrading, and defaults on insured mortgages are rising.
5) Foreclosures:
- An excellent summary and map of foreclosure activity.
- Maryland makes them take a little longer. (The article overstates the lengthening.)
- California is suffering.
- Desperate in Denver.
- Foreclosures and crime are correlated.
- Which leads the FHA to act, and the states to act as well, because Federal efforts are slow.
6) Gotta love OFHEO, which is trying to rein in the GSEs during a lending crisis. Even though they may have traction, I don’t see how they tighten the regulations during a crisis.
7) For that matter, consider the lenders. Countrywide (CFC) seemed to purposely ignore the creditworthiness of borrowers as they jammed it out the door lent on mortgages. Even with all this, mortgage lenders are complaining that new regulations will make mortgages less affordable. What they mean is that they will issue fewer mortgages, and they will make less profit. Please, let’s stop making it easy for those that can’t afford a home to take the risk of buying one. Higher mortgage rates are bad in the short run, but good in the long run.
8 ) Dr. Jeff reluctantly asks what inning we are in on housing. I understand that it is an overused metric, but it is overused for a reason. Nine is an intuitive number — are we halfway through? Fifth inning. One-quarter? Third. Almost done? Eight or ninth. He also makes a simple request to those of us who opine on the housing slump, to be more definite in what we say, provide more data, and what will be signs that the troubles are turning.
I need to set up some housing recovery googlebots to scan for me, but my guess is that we are in the fifth inning of the troubles. When I get more definitive guesses/answers to the questions, I will post.
9) Delinquencies:
- Lenders, or better, servicers, are struggling with the load.
- That said, the growth in subprime delinquencies is slowing. Perhaps we are going through burnout, where most of those likely to default have done so, and a few incremental defaults remain.
- But home equity loan experience keeps getting worse. (My only surprise there is how slow this has been in arriving.)
10) Home prices continue to fall, and estimates to the nadir (cycle low) range between 0-50%, with 10-20% being the most common.
11) Falling home prices will lead to many more foreclosures in prime loans, and of course Alt-A and subprime. Foreclosures happen when a sale would result in a loss, and a negative life event hits — death, divorce, disaster, disability, and unemployment.
12) Second-order effects:
- Home remodeling expenditures fall
- (Commercial) Architecture Billings index falls. (Does not bode well for commercial real estate.)
- Low new housing sales.
- Tough total sales environment in the SF Bay Area. Sales fall before housing prices, and rise as housing bottoms. (Opinions on that last thought?)
- Allegations of fraud are thick among borrowers and lenders. A lotta smoke, but is there any fire?… Clearly, the servicing system was not designed for this level of failure, so I’m not surprised that things are moving slowly.
- Homeowner vacancy rates are at an all-time high. That should keep the pressure on prices, because there is a lot of competition if you want to sell, and there is a lot of dark supply waiting to emerge if prices get more favorable. Emergence from this set of troubles may be slow, much like a credit crisis in the corporate bond market often feels slow to unwind.
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This article has 29 comments:
If the consumer is 70% of the economy we are indeed in trouble. High unemployment looms just as Medicaid and Social Security run out of cash.
I'd say we're only midway through the first inning.....
A perfect storm is brewing.....
By the time the system reacts and changes it'll be NC and friends whose retirement benefit is slashed.
High taxes and reduce retirement benefit..... remember that in November!
Those are just words to frighten so-called "Conservatives".
What they mean to say is "higher" taxes for the "already" rich.
BOO HOO HOO!!! ALREADY RICH PEOPLE might have to pay HIGHER TAXES!!!
Republican's compassion for the Already Rich knows no boundaries!
I have one question: about three weeks ago, I saw a very interesting graph on Good Morning America (if I recall correctly). It plotted the real average US house price over time for about the last seventy years are so. The chart was eye-popping in that it showed that the last five years were really an aberration. I have searched the GMA website and can't find the graph. Does anyone know where I can get that chart or the numbers? Thanks in advance!
I saw the same chart, and it reminded me of an expression that Milton Friedman said: "All aberrations revert to the mean." That's not a direct quote, but a paraphrase. In short, the aberrant runup in housing prices over the past 4 years is now reverting to the mean: A stable growth rate about 1% higher than inflation. Since inflation was averaging less than 2% annually over the past 4 years, but housing prices were rising at 10-40%, depending on where you measured it, to correct to the mean would call for housing prices to fall anywhere from 4%-35%, also depending on where you measure it.
That's happening right now nationwide.
As prices revert to their mean, further dislocations in the housing markets should be expected. But once this takes place, the next step is working off the excess inventory piled up while more houses were getting built than could be purchased.
Look for housing's 'recovery' in 2012.
I know for a fact Countrywide used - A house on our appraisal - That they
said sold for 39,900 dollars - On Sept 14th 2007 - The day of the appraisal
However the said house sold for - 62,000 in July of 2007 - But listed as selling
for 39,900 on Sept 14th on the appraisal - Then through country records - after
I pointed out these facts - Land safe-countrywide - involved with said house - had
it sold on Sept 28th for 39,000.
Here's the kicker - they dropped the payment they wanted of 405 dollars - but April 29th
that's right April 29th this year - they ran it through our ATM - For payment - of said
fraudulent appraisal.
Kind of a HA-HA-HA on us was it not - well not really - WE stopped payment -and Here is where
the HA-HA-HA really is.
Doing fraudulent activities through ATM'S is a federal wire crime.
Now lets say the American people take the time to go through there appraisal at the county
office - and those same Millions Americans find landsafe-countrywide - have faked there appraisal
- and was paid by credit card or ATM.
Now wouldn't that amount to millions of wire fraud cases - just against countrywide and there
appraisers at landsafe?
You think Enron accounting was bad - wait till the American People demand justice - against
fake and false appraisals - that had them lose there homes.
Lets face it. Mixing no verification of nothing with a subpar credit score and you may as well have just given the borrower some money and told them to forget the whole process - really, a joke.
Once a handful of lenders experienced the profit and share growth with limited risk of selling Wall St. product(AAA rating and instant liquidity) virtually all followed suit like lemming - no bank, investor, board, or borrower wanted to be left out of the profit train.
And why not - values were rising.
A separate issue is the document waiver programs underwritten and approved via FNMA's DU system and FHLMC's LP System. FNMA and FHLMC both authorized the use of an automated underwriting decision based on credit score, LTV, income listed and assets listed. Its still out there. Wells Fargo calls it "Straight to Close", Chase has "Zippy Stated", Wamu calls it "Doc Relief" and Countrywide calls it Fast and Easy. The intention was less paperwork thus increased productivity for lenders and less hassle for borrowers. The tradeoff was these systems required higher credit scores (700) as well as a number of other factors that, based on studies of loan performance, would be predictive of lower default rates.
There are two problems with this. First the studies that predicted lower delinquencies were performed while real estate values were increasing. Second, there was a belief that borrowers would tell the truth on their loan application.
Well, real estate values are not rising, and whether on their own or at the suggestion of their mortgage broker, borrowers didn't tell the truth. A recipe for disaster.
No real housing recovery until 2010 at best. Clean up the mortgage and housing industry. Eliminate the third party mortgage brokers who manipulated the system for a one time commission (brokers get paid when a loan closes and leave the lender and borrower with the mess) Look for either full income verification or a large, verified down payment (30%) and then we'll see stability in the housing market and liquidity and confidence return to the secondary market.
Yeah I made $200k last year. But I live near NYC where I pay more for rent than most home"owners" pay for their houses and where taxation has reached its pinnacle as art form. But the federal government considers me "rich" so I get none of the rebates for my 3 kids, etc. etc.
Makes me want to move back out to the sticks and get a nice easy job with some county government and start sucking on the government teat myself.
By then everyone can hardly stand, even the fans and the hot dog guys.
I attended the Fed meeting in Chicago where Bank of America has all there top guns promoting the take over of Countrywide...Of course, it will go thru....and you will pay for it.
In our country, their ultimate intent is to reposses the private property en masse and control Amercian citizens.
In the "Great Depression" the Federal Reserve and a coalition of bankers engineered a similar trasfer of wealth. This time the theft of American assets will be 100 fold that of the 1930s, in relative monetary terms.
To understand the driving force behind this, read up on the Talmud:
www.talmudblasphemy.com/truth-talmud.htm
Then you'll understand why our Lord drove the Federal Reserve of Jerusalem or the "money-changers" out of the Temple with a wip.
Bernanke and Greenspan should be arrested and held for Treason and the Fed should be taken over and their assets returned to American citizens.
1. A very good article
2. If you want to see the chart that several of you mentioned, I have a little video on my blog that includes it. Here is the link blog.metro-real-estate.com/?p=162 .
3. Having been on the financing end throughout the bubble, I can assure you that the level of fraud was astronomical. That's what makes it so hard to call the inning. It's impossible to look at numbers and draw conclusions since historical norms are probably meaningless.
They sent throught the fraudulant apprasial, for pay.
Now the fraud will be sent to the justice apartment - and Senator Shum.
Part of the reason that there's such a serious debate about tax policy in the United States is that people who aren't rich think they are and people who are poor think they are middle class. Debasement of the currency confuses everyone into thinking they belong to a different socioeconomic class then they actually do.
And it's not just income, it's wealth. There are a lot of people making $175K to $250K with huge student loans, and who bleed under zero down mortgages on $1 million condos that are two bedroom one bath. They have little wealth and their income goes mostly to interest payments. 35 years ago the idea that someone making a salary in the top 10% of income earners would, regardless of actual saved wealth, be able to afford something a little nicer than a two bedroom one bath condo. Debasing the currency causes this sort of confusion.
Debasing the currency causes people to see quite modest acquisitions like small condominiums as a luxury objects reserved to the truly wealthy. If Americans had better math skills, they'd realize that the tax rules should focus on those making $1 million a year and more. Aside from the 1920s and the 1980s and now, the highest earners used to pay close to 50% in income tax. Now it's low 30s.
Capital gains taxes at 15% and not subject to "payroll tax" the capital gains exclusion for real estate and so many other rules have been used to try to bribe people making $200K a year by taxing people who make $75K a year even more! (note the "payroll tax" ending at $100K and that huge 15% tax being spent mostly on general tax fund expenditures with now a $2.3 trillion hole in the trust fund from this regressive tax that essentially was a bribe to those making $150K to $250K a year because if their taxes were a bit higher (and they are the new middle class), then the truly rich would have had political problems maintaining existing tax rules.
The saddest part of all of this is that the average person has used finance and credit in a way that put off for 20 years really understanding what these rules have wrought. That consumer credit expansion and erosion of the savings appears to have reached the end of the road as it doesn't seem mathematically possible for the trend to continue.
Americans will figure out how much prices have risen when they have to pay for things with their income instead of HELOCs, 2nd mortgages, borrowing against rising asset prices, etc. When people try to get by using their incomes to buy thing instead of credit, they'll realize that perhaps 80% of Americans are really poorer than at any time since the 1970s.
Together we paid nearly $14,000 in student loan interest. We get to deduct a princely sum of $2500.
The Tax Code is the damn problem and HW explained the underlying cause... regular folks have been completely hoodwinked into thinking they are in a higher class than they are.
To fix this we need to CREATE NEW CLASS DISTINCTIONS. The truth is even those with least incomes are in many ways better off than there counterparts 50 years ago. They own LOTS of clothes (although mostly garbage) in comapirison
A a test go out and talk about the estate tax or the so-called "death tax" and you'll find a large majority of people are against it and would support getting rid of estate taxes... but guess what? only about 5% of estates actually get hit with estate taxes as the aggregate wealth must be in excess of many millions.
Income Tax needs to be revised such that Student Loans Interest is 100% deductible, Home Interest Payments are 100% deductible up to the average median home price, Capital Gains BECOME GRADUATED... think about this readers... because like the estate tax this would benefit to most of you; and Estate Taxes go to 50% Estates over $10,000,000 to 75% for estates over $100,000,000. All the estate tax revenues.
Capitalism is going to become reborn in my generation to be a game with fair refs. Who would play Monopoly if 3 players get $200 and 1 player gets $2000? Let number 1 play alone and see how much fun the game is and then we start over.
Thanks for the support but as someone once said, "If nominated I won't run and if elected I won't serve." I can't remember who I just quoted so if you or anyone else knows, let me know.