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Yes, this is about #2. At least the chemical equivalent. So let’s get the jokes out of the way first…

Whenever one stock grows enough to represent an inordinately large percentage of the index it belongs to, you know there is some major dislocation going on. And it is about to be corrected.

Right now that would be Potash (POT), the fertilizer company from Saskatchewan, Canada. Potash is now the 2nd largest company on the Toronto Stock Exchange at $60 billion capitalization. The largest is RIM (RIMM), which along with Potash has been the engine that has propelled the Canadian indexes higher in 2007 and so far in 2008, almost unassailable.

From the bottom of the bear market in early 2003 to recent times, Potash stock has given the lucky few to have ridden it loyally higher, a “20 bagger”:

The problem is that right now it is priced for utter perfection. And if the world is one thing, it is imperfect. For one, there is no reasonable logic to its valuation.We have more than ample reserves yet to be mined. In fact, according to the International Fertilizer Association (who should know), at the current rate of use, we have enough proven reserves to last us another 300 years.

And strangely enough, inflation-adjusted potash prices have continuously and consistently fallen over time. It is only in 2007 that we’ve seen an exception to this with KCl (potassium chloride) prices tripling. This is a response to a similar rise in the price of sulfur and natural gas (raw materials) for potash.

To bring back some perspective to this, consider a research note from Merrill Lynch saying that if we add together the capitalization of the 3 large fertilizer companies: Potash, Mosaic (MOS) and Agrium (AGU) we have a value larger than the sum of the value of all potash ever mined and sold in modern history!

During the tech bubble of 2000 many Canadians remember how the TSX index was pulled higher by Nortel (NT) to levels it wouldn’t have attained by its own accord. But POT’s meteoric rise makes Nortel’s look pathetic in comparison.

If you were lucky enough (or smart enough) to buy Nortel at the 1998 October bottom - around $75/share - and repeat the miracle of perfect timing again to sell at the top, August 2000, at around $830/share, you would only be boasting a 10 to 11 “bagger”:

If you have been fortunate enough to be long Potash, the good times may be over. Time again to look for what most are ignoring.

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    I don't care how many times it has multiplied...that does not indicate whether the run is over! Contracts for potash recently went over $1000 per ton...a couple months ago it was $600/ton.
    2008 Apr 30 05:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    All you bubbleheads keep ignoring the fact that POT and all of the
    other have CONTRACTS for the rest of the year. The contracts with
    Brazil, India and China are DONE. Forward EPS is all but in the bag.
    And you can bet that India and China won't make the same mistake
    twice with waiting until the last minute to negotiate their deals for
    2009. Same price for 2009 at minimum, or slightly more. Either way,
    CanPotEx is well in control.

    There may very well be a price bubble - I'll even agree with you that
    there is. However, the oil "bubble" that we are in, started when
    Katrina hit. 5 years ago. Maybe it's taken a little longer for the price
    of black gold to rise 100% (anyone remember $60 oil??), but the
    thirst needs to be slaked. Similarly, the fields need to be made
    fertile.

    The housing price bubble that just popped started before the tech bubble - 10 years ago.

    The tech bubble came and went in a matter of 4-5 years - 1996-2000, but it lasted that long. Call it a bubble. I agree!!!

    A bubble is formed during that period in which demand outstrips
    supply and the psychology of buy now or pay more later enters.
    Regardless of the market cap (so what!!) of the Ferts right now, the
    need (demand) is real. People seem to want to eat. Go figure.

    The currently available supply (the rate they are pulling the stuff out
    of the ground and putting it on barges) is limited. In the mean time,
    POT, MOS, AGU and all of the others will continue to make hay while
    the sun is shining for at least the next few years. (I love the few ag
    jokes I can inject like that!)

    If the bubble pops as new supply comes on line in 3-5 years, I can
    live with that. In the mean time, if they can get $1K a tonne, please,
    bubble me!

    In the mean time bubbleheads, a supply and demand imbalance
    exists, prices are rising whether it is right or not, and the pricing power
    of these companies for the next 24-48 months favors the sellers, not
    the buyers.

    People are going to eat. They can reduce their fuel consumption marginally, but choose generally not to at this point.

    When gasoline becomes extravagant, folks will STILL ride their bikes
    to get food to eat. Food grown with FERTS, by farmers that need to
    increase and keep their yield per acre as high as possible.

    Be a bubblehead. Just be an informed bubblehead!
    2008 Apr 30 05:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    Sorry, all AG stocks are going much higher. The need for fertilizer has never been greater and the demand never higher. The rest for these stocks is over, now we run like crazy!
    2008 Apr 30 05:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    Has everyone forgot the fact that here in the US there are several large ethanol plants due to come online in the next 2 years?
    Doesn't this mean that everyone with an acre to till will be trying to cash in even more so than they are now? As demand for ethanol increases, the price will rise and so will the cost of fertilizer. I would think companies like Monsanto, creating new drought resistant corn, would fare even better.
    2008 Apr 30 05:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    The author only gives one side of the story. If he were to give the other side, he would disprove himself.

    Other side: an ever increasing population in foreign markets that demand more agricultural and meat products. The 'penetration rate' is still low. ie. there is a lot more potential ahead for POT as the population of ppl with disposable income abroad rises everyday.

    Secondly, POT is going to hit $1000/tn...it's just a matter of time.

    Thirdly, unlike tech or housing, the potash sector is controlled by a small handful of global players. These companies are going to work to keep prices high since they hold a monopoly over potash reserves.
    2008 Apr 30 06:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    The author forgot to mention that 3 billion people are coming online at once. This has never happened before in the history of the planet. Some allowance has to be made for major fundamental shifts.
    2008 Apr 30 07:03 PM | Link | Reply
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    Your analysis is lacking in very basic elements (reason, understanding of financial valuation, understanding of the industry and specific company you are writing about). How does something like that happen. Who gave you the spot light? I think everything has been said above, but in the event that you didn't get it.

    There may be 300 years of Potash in the ground. That is a good thing for a potash mining company that owns those resources or leases them. Income = value at the end of the day. Hedge & private equity may play with the stock but when all is said and done its income that creates value. If you would do just a bit more research you would find that currently yearly production (that potash that can actually be removed from the earth in a year) is short demand. This is evidenced in the fact that we have seen a 100% increase in potash/ton pricing since Nov 2007. This is the reason a farmer or industrial user would pay more. This, short of a monopoly situation, is the only reason anyone pays more for a product. This is even more true in the case of quasi commodity products like fertilizer. The current potash/ton pricing direct from the companies sales sheet effective June 1st from their warehouse FOB is $565. If you are unsure email investor relations and they will produce a copy for you. Additionally, there are many indicators that this price will press beyond this level over the next 12 months and further upside over 24 months. See JP Morgan, RBC, Citibank analyst recent comments and income and price targets. If you have not seen Bloomberg, NY Times, or any other major business or general news provider recently you would not know about all of the chatter of food shortages around the world. Americans feel it last as they typically have enough money to outbid poor nations for food. I don't mean to be overly critical of your article. Your analysis is that of a freshman college student trying to bluff there way through an economics 101 exam. Pot was selling at retail once it hit the $215 area. Fast money doesn't have much patience when they don't see much more upside and therefore you see POT today at $180. They are banking there profit and some are moving on. We have no guarantee by far that we will hit $1,000/ton potash. However, I don't see many shorts on POT and there is a reason for that. Nice try kid. I am sure you could have constructed a better negative argument for POT. Not a strong one but at least one with some logic to it and without so many elemental errors. Next time do some more work before you talk and someone might listen.
    2008 Apr 30 07:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    Nice post Gold. I agree with you 100%. Pot is a longer term hold for at least 3-5 years maybe more. The only thing in the articule I agree with is the fact that pot is a 10 bagger. Demand for there product is extraordinary. Russia just recently raised their potash prices in spot places up to 1000 a ton, so with the current potash prices for pot, mon, and agu one can expect more stock price elevation. Also, even though RBK had lower the buy rating they said they are still keeping their same target of 300. Some one please mistake me is the stock currently trading @ 180+.
    2008 Apr 30 09:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm pretty much in agreement with the comments posted. My initial reaction to this particular outdated analysis was not as hostile as my reaction toward the Alpha article regarding "steep declines" in store for the ag industry though. The steep decline article was written shortly after the $$/ton was doubled???
    2008 Apr 30 09:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    POT and Nortel?!?!? You're comparing apples to bananas to prove a point.

    Also, I remember when oil hit 60 USD/barrel many of your colleagues played the "bubble" card and predicted a return to 35$ oil. I wonder if they're still willing to stand by this claim.
    2008 Apr 30 10:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    I completely disagree with the author's point of view. I'm not saying that a pullback was in order but all of these negative articles predicting the end of the world for agriculture/fertilizer stocks is unbelievable. One month ago everyone was talking about new heights and short supplies but now all you hear about is the negative. Does anyone listen to the CEOs of POT and the Russian companies? I find it hard to believe they wouldn't know the industry better than most of these Seeking Alpha authors? I haven't seen Doyle sell any stock yet and have a feeling that next weeks annual meeting will be a good one. I'm content if the stock hangs out here and bases for a few weeks until prices go up again. I once enjoyed reading Seeking Alpha but now with this guy and Mark Anthony posting these outlandish "analysis or research reports" I might just skip over this website. To much negativity may be a good sign for the stock?
    2008 Apr 30 11:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    Gee, I just posted to this topic on IPI, right here in Seeking Alpha. What is it with S.A. attacking commodities? Did you miss the run and are jealous? Do you guys think that a fancy walkman company, or a search engine company GOOG are worth 100 to 300 times earnings, but commodity companies that actually give us something we NEED are only worth 10 times earnings?

    Unfortunately, I guess the shorts like this stuff and they attacked IPI yesterday and I hit all my stops. I'll be back when all the short-sighted, (pun intended), people get smacked around some more.

    This so reminds me of Boone Pickens saying "oil will be $85 by May". Hey Boone, how ya doing with them oil shorts?
    2008 Apr 30 11:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    It seems clear these guys just try to manipulate the market to their advantage.
    2008 May 01 10:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    I am long but you can get all you want at 176 right now any takers?
    2008 May 01 11:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    Good comments, all. It's important to consider both sides of the story. But remember that, right or wrong on the fundamental basis, you can't move the market.

    While breezing through some of the other companies mentioned in this article, I noticed this disparity:

    TTM PEs:
    AGU = 23.3
    POT = 38.9
    2008 May 01 11:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    To ur knowledge- Lifosa's (one of fertilizer company, belonging to Evrochem) P/E is about 5....Any ideas?
    2008 May 01 12:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    To all who are posting about *possibility* of $1000/ton...you're late!! It has already happened! POT got contracts recently for over $1000/ton. Go read their conference call and recent news. Furthermore, this company has 75% of the market's future capacity and will be bringing it online. It takes 5-7 years for a competitor to get a new source of potash going and up to production volumes. Since there is *not* any foreseeable slowdown in demand for potash/fertilizer (this is *not* an ethanol play, but the result of world-wide demand for food!), POT is going gangbusters for at least a few more years! All aboard!
    2008 May 01 12:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm worried about getting in too late on this thing. But as they say, perception is reality. I believe if you all believe. It doesn't matter if POT is worthless. If enough of you think its worth something, that's all that matters.
    Any other Potash producers worth looking at?
    2008 May 01 01:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    •  • Website: http://www.traders.lt
    To Good Dady

    Few Lifosa's fundamentals after 20081Q results:
    Revenue grow +110% (y/y)
    Net profit grow +780% (y/y)
    PE 4.6 (ttm)
    Debt/Equity ratio 0.15
    -------
    One and only reason, why it is so cheap, it's small free float of less than 5% of shares, while main holder Evrochem owns 91% stake.

    2008 May 01 03:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    As you all push up the price of POT and others, If you do not buy low and sell high you will not make a profit. POT has developed into a marketing cartel. It is subject to the same kinds of risk as buying oil futures. Some day you might regret what you invested in.

    PS. I am a backyard gardener. I do not use any chemicals or fertilizers in my garden. I use compost made by worms! The stuff is FREE and grows nice vegetables and flowers.

    PPS. Have any of you ever heard of the Ratio Price to Book Value...or Price to Tangible Book Value? You should look it up.
    2008 May 01 03:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    Seeking alpha is the same as posting on the Yahoo message board, any moron can post a message on it. After reading this piece, I prove my point.
    2008 May 01 06:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    If ever mankind needed a bubble to form it is in agricultural capacity. That there is no futures market for potash underscores the point that the only way to short this market is for Potash Corp and its peers to sell potash. Kind of puts the argument 'speculators drive inflation' to bed don't you think. Potash one of the star performing commodities for 2008. If oil is indeed running out, don't expect real commodities of need to become overly abundant in your lifetime. If the bull market in fertilizer ends, anticipate major moves north in all of the staple crops as grain output is directly correlated to fertilizer consumption. With around 40 days of staples left in the world is it really fair to value the need to beat this dilemna as nothing more than a speculative bubble. Maybe you didn't listen to your grandparents whenever they reflected on 'tougher times'.
    2008 May 01 07:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    The only risk to these potash producers is the finiteness of the natural gas they exploit to precipitate the potassium salts out of brine solution. In which case the price of potash would explode even higher anyway.
    2008 May 01 07:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think, politically, with the food shortages across the globe, that the price fixing authorities in the US and Europe will soon look into the pricing practices of canpotex and other potash sellers and try to force some rationality into the pricing. It's a win/win politically as China would benefit as would the politician who saves the starving masses. Bush has had a soft spot for Africa and other 4th world areas. Also, the potash industry has been investigated before in the earlier part of the century for both dumping and raising prices. too much risk for me.
    2008 May 01 10:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    After writing your piece, You proved your point.


    On May 01 06:44 PM Erin Young wrote:

    > Seeking alpha is the same as posting on the Yahoo message board,
    > any moron can post a message on it. After reading this piece, I prove
    > my point.
    2008 May 01 10:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    hook...rationality into the pricing?? translated == regulated price caps, as opposed to free markets? cuz what i'm seeing is the markets working for potash pricing right now. this is not a speculative bubble...it is driven by real demand during an ag boom. more hungry people can now afford more and higher quality foods. this is not a commodity like gold, potash is actually consumed...used up. there is a finite supply, and POT owns 75% of the ready-to-go capacity.
    2008 May 02 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    midwest dude...I agree with you, rationality was a bad choice of words. I'm not talking about speculators, but rather an oligopoly setting prices. It's not beyond politicians to give monopolies and oligopolies a hard time. It happens all the time and is a risk.
    2008 May 02 04:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    Just purchased another 200k of MOO yesterday. The ags are not done, unfortunately.
    2008 May 02 06:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    No one here even mentions YARA International (YARIY), which happens to be one of the biggest FERT's in the world. They're huge in Europe and Asia, and they also have their own inline gas production, which is a huge cost of doing business. They're trading at a PE in the low 20's currently. And like POT, their revenues just doubled as well. They're on a foreign exchange, so info isn't readily available (thus they are lesser known), but they have all the financials on their web site at yara.com.
    2008 May 03 08:20 AM | Link | Reply
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    We had our POT sell-off starting on April 28th.

    If you look back to Jan 16th it did the same thing. Ran up and sold off back to the 50 DMA. It took 5 trading days to hit bottom and 5 to come back to its previous high. That is a fast turn around. This time around we hit major resistance on day 4 (May 1st) at $175 instead of the $168/share 50 DMA. This occurred with considerable negative chatter of the FED putting future rates on hold, commodity crashes and random deception and ignorance across the board. In the end Income = Value. It might not be a straight line but income will always assert itself.

    I believe we will hold on Monday May 5th and 5 days out we will be in the upper 190's or low 200's back were we started on April 28th. I believe we will not return to the magic $168 / 50 DMA this time due to all the positive information about 2008 earnings and 2009 earnings. JP Morgan who has seldom missed a call and has POT 2008 EPS at $11 and 2009 at $18/EPS. Gas & oil trust, tankers, and utils that are valued solely on current income have higher PE's then this with low growth.

    So what if hedges and private equity want to "sector rotate" selloff for greener pastures (faster profits). Who can blame them; they are up $40/share on 1,000,000 shares or more typically. Most of them need to grab whatever money they can after all the losses they have taken on financials, homebuilders, insurance, ect. We still have 73% Institutional ownership on POT, 64% on MOS, 58% on AGU and who knows how much on the new IPO deal (IPI). Retail ( that is us ) and the long money institutions are not going anywhere anytime soon. Why would you sell off now when you have an 64% EPS increase coming next year.

    The correction happened and it will not last long. Potash prices are real and not speculative. Israel just sold $650/ton pot to China last week.


    No shorts in sight as of last week POT has 1% short float, AGU has 1.12%, and MOS has 2.68%.
    Compare this to say Lennar Homes of 26%, Citi Group 12.85%.
    Now think IBM short float 1.28%.
    Which camp is POT in?

    Best Regards,
    2008 May 03 05:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    I wonder why the author has taken this approach.Understandabl... the price rise has been meteric but doesn't demand play a role?The demand is not a quirk.It is a real problem to feed the world population.Adding to the woes is the misguided group called environmentalists and their climate agenda.That is why prices have gone up and will probably see demand rising while prices may pause temporarily.
    2008 May 07 10:05 PM | Link | Reply
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