Stanford L. Kurland - Chairman and CEO
David A. Spector - President and COO
Anne D. McCallion - CFO
Doug Jones - Head of Correspondent Lending
PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust (PMT) Q2 2012 Earnings Conference Call August 2, 2012 8:30 AM ET
Good morning and welcome to PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, please take a moment to familiarize yourself with the forward-looking disclaimer on slide 2. Thank you.
I’d now like to turn it over to Stan Kurland, PMT’s Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Stan?
Stanford L. Kurland
Thank you, Chris. The second quarter results demonstrated a significant earnings power of PMT and its potential for future growth. Both of the company’s business segments, Correspondent Lending and Investment Activity delivered strong results in the second quarter leveraging solid operational execution of our manager PNMAC Capital Management and fulfillment and servicing provider PennyMac loan services to drive double-digit pre-tax earnings growth.
The Company successfully raised $201 million in new equity capital immediately deploying the proceeds in accretive investments. PMT’s business model in relationship with PLS and PCM combined the expertise in infrastructure that enables the Company to pursue the many opportunities present in today’s mortgage market.
Today I’d like to talk to you about our second quarter results. The self emerging market trend and touch on PMT’s position in the current competitive landscape. Then I will turn it over to Anne McCallion, PMT’s CFO, to discuss the quarterly financials in greater detail. Then, David Spector, PMT’s President and Chief Operating Officer, will take you through our investment activities and discuss how our business portfolio performed during the quarter. And finally I will ask Doug Jones, the Head of Correspondent Lending crew, to discuss the quarterly results for Correspondent as well as our future growth strategies for that business.
Before we get into details, let’s review PMT’s second quarter highlights. Net income was $29.6 million in the second quarter, up 55% from the first quarter on revenues with $64.4 million. Diluted earnings per share reach an all time high at $0.79, a 22% increase from the first quarter. Return on equity was 17% for the quarter.
We believe this is particularly notable considering that we raised over $200 million in new equity in the quarter, roughly a third of our market capitalization at that time demonstrating our ability to quickly and efficiently deploy capital. The new capital allowed for the purchase of four distressed whole loan pools provided more continued growth in our Correspondent business and facilitated the pay down of our borrowings under the forward purchase agreements. All of these activities contributed to PMT’s strong quarterly results.
Our Correspondent business continues to perform exceptionally well. Correspondent purchase activity increased 88% during the quarter to $3.4 billion in total purchases, of which conventional purchases accounted for $1.8 billion. Our selective client-focused model drives growth in deeper relationships with our Correspondent business partners. This simply means that we seek to do business with Correspondent servers who view the relationship with PMT as the partnership that has mutually beneficial to the long-term success of both parties. Doug will expand on this later in the presentation.
Turning to our activities, we’re pleased with the performance of PMT’s distressed mortgage loan investments during the quarter, with pre-tax earnings increasing 82% from the first quarter driven by 144% increase in net investment income. These results were driven by a combination of increased valuation on note, balancing the portfolio and strong liquidation activity. Moreover, we purchased $402 million in UPB, distressed whole loans during the quarter.
The purchases were comprised of $224 million in UPB of non-performing whole loans and $178 million of UPB in re-performing whole loans, which is our largest purchase of re-performing loans thus far. As we’ve mentioned in the past, re-performing pools are likely to become more prevalent in the option classes and expand the amount of whole loans available to purchase.
David will go into additional details regarding our strategy of that investments in the performing whole loans, but initial borrower response from this pool has been encouraging and we will continue to pursue additional re-performing whole loan investments going forward.
The second quarter results underscore the strength of PMT’s business model and our ability to capitalize on opportunities as they emerge. Our success is occurring at a time when the mortgage markets appear to be showing signs of stabilizer.
Let’s turn to slide 4, and examine a few of the potentially positive indicators. In the second quarter we began to see signs of stabilization in home prices generally, and in specific areas of the country, REO improvement. Indicators of stabilization were evident in the economic data of home values released in the second quarter, in addition to market feedback we received to our own REO and third-party foreclosure liquidation process.
The general sense that housing is nearing the bottom seems to be binding growing consensus among economist, which is a departure from the negative housing forecast we’ve seen over the last five years. Some of the recent improvement in housing [initiatives] can be attributed to seasonal factors that typically accompany the spring and summer buying season. But taken as a whole, it seems that home prices are nearing or have reached the bottom.
The chart on slide 4 shows the change in the index values from the trough in the post real estate collapse cycle from 2007 to present. And you can see that all of the savings in the index are above their trough. Many of these cities have only recently come back above their levels and some are still below year-ago levels. However, most of the cities in the Case Shiller index had either experienced year-to-date increases in their respective home value index or have seen levels of price declines flow when compared to year-ago levels.
Also it’s important to acknowledge that improvement would not be evenly distributed across the country. Some areas will recover more quickly than others as evidenced by the wide range of values on the chart. These data points suggest to us that the demand versus supply equation is beginning to find equilibrium and prices are beginning to stabilize.
Our experience with the second quarter REO and foreclosure sale liquidations suggest that demand increased in the second quarter and the prices received for these properties were generally higher than the sales of the comparable properties in the previous quarter. Ultimately price stability is necessary for consumers to feel confident that home values aren’t going to collapse after they buy a home.
We may not be quite there yet on a national basis as our model still forecasts home declines for some areas in the country into early 2013 and down side risk from [each our] markets and so economic activity are cause for concern. However, we’re hopeful that the housing market will continue to stabilize and we remain cautiously optimistic about the prospects for home prices as we move into the latter half of 2012.
The recent indications of stabilization in home prices coupled with low mortgage rates, high levels of affordability and rising rents, all appear to be motivating more people to consider purchasing a home. Homebuilder Sentiment recently reached a four year high and pending home sales are picking-up, particularly in the western states. In fact, 40% of PMT’s newly originated correspondent investor mortgages in the second quarter were for the purpose of purchasing a home up from 30% in the first quarter.
Also inventories of new and existing homes for sale are nearly with recent low levels. And anecdotal evidence suggests that reasonably priced homes are well bid and demand for REOs and foreclosure properties is particularly robust. An example of this demand is evident and the fact that PMT’s third-party foreclosure sales doubled this quarter. Third-party foreclosure sales are those where the reserve prices met at the foreclosure sale and immediately sold to the third-party. This quarter we saw these types of properties selling at a premium to our current estimated market value with multiple bids.
As I mentioned, the competitive environment in the mortgage market is evolving and PMT competes with a variety of companies for our Correspondent business, equity capital and investment opportunities. PMT’s competitors range from regional banks to mortgage banking companies and specialty servicers to traditional NBS REITs.
Across this spectrum we see PMT is uniquely well positioned to compete effectively and grow. PMT’s distinctive relationship with PCM and PLS provide PMT an advantage in its ability to capitalize on a breadth of market opportunities while our primarily focus on residential mortgage market benefits our ability to more readily identify emerging trends.
PMT’s servicer has developed leading specialty servicing capabilities that it delivered PMT a solid track record of attractive investment returns. PLS's legacy free platform has been developed to focus exclusively on the opportunities in residential mortgage markets as it transitions to what will eventually be the new norm.
Additionally, our Correspondent Lending business has become very successful and has positioned PMT to become a top 10 Correspondent Lender. The ability to organically grow and replenish our mortgage servicing portfolio with MSRs generated in the slow interest rate environment speaks to PMT’s ability through PCM and PLS to capitalize on opportunities in today’s market.
Also we’re actively pursuing opportunities in the market for bulk MSR purchases, which would leverage PLS's servicing capabilities and enhance the value to PMT’s shareholders. The residential mortgage business is one that our highly experienced leadership team knows very well and it is our primary focus. We see many opportunities in the current mortgage market and believe that we have the ideal business model, knowledgeable and experienced people and the right capabilities to PLS and PCM to profitably compete and grow.
I’d now like to turn it over to Anne McCallion, PMT’s Chief Financial Officer, to discuss the company’s second quarter results in more detail. Ann?
Anne D. McCallion
Thank you, Stan. Turning to slide 8, we’ll take a deeper look at the composition of PMT’s second quarter earnings. PMT recorded net income of $29.6 million or $0.79 per diluted share on net investment income of $64.4 million. Net income increased 55% from the first quarter of 2012, driven by some results from PMT’s two operating segments, investment Activity and Correspondent Lending, which delivered pre-tax income growth of 82% and 17% respectively from the first quarter.
Net income investments in the second quarter doubled from the prior period and the net income on mortgage loans acquired for sale rose 35% quarter-over-quarter. This strong performance was due to continued strong liquidation activity and net improvements in the home price performance in PMT’s distressed loan investments portfolio, in addition to significantly higher mortgage loans and purchase volumes in PMT’s Correspondent Lending segment.
Negative net servicing fees of $855,000 resulted from a $1.9 million valuation charge on our MSRs due to higher prepayment expectations from a decline in mortgage rates throughout the quarter. Interest income fell 3% compared to the first quarter of 2012, mostly due to decline in distressed loan modification activity. If modifications of nonperforming loans are completed, capitalized interest is recognized. Since the second quarter had fewer modification, the interest recognized in the period declined.
Incentives in the second quarter increased primarily as a result of increased correspondent lending activity and higher liquidation and mass litigation activity. PMT encourage volume and activity based expenses for the services performed on it behalf by its manager and servicing and fulfillment providers, PCM and PLS.
The provision for income tax expense rose reflecting the solid growth of the Correspondent business. However, the effective tax rate for the quarter was unchanged with 22%. The company’s correspondent activities are conducted in PMT’s taxable REIT subsidiary, where we expect PMT’s income tax expense to increase on an absolute dollar basis as this segment portfolio profits growth. A significant portion of this tax expense, relates to the value of the mortgage servicing rights to see pursuant to sales of correspondent loans and its deferred value been payable currently
Let’s turn to page and look at PMT’s balance sheet and earnings highlights from the quarter. Mortgage assets increased 42% from the first quarter due to the addition of four distressed mortgage pools with unpaid principal balances totaling $402 million and higher levels of mortgage loans held for sale at quarter end. Additionally, our MSR asset continues to grow, while it remains relatively small portion of total mortgage asset, we anticipate that its growth will continue and it will become a more significant component of mortgage assets going forward.
A portion of the proceeds from the REIT and capital raise in may, was deployed toward investments in MSRs created from an increasing volume of corresponding conventional mortgages sold which we see as an attractive investment opportunity.
Next I’d like to discuss net investment income and its notable growth over the past year resulting from the strong performance of PMT’s mortgage investment. This quarter’s record net investment income reflects the solid performance of both business segments. Liquidation activities were 24% from the first quarter of 2012 which was largely the result of an increased level of REO sale and short sale activity.
We also saw a doubling of sales to third-parties, a foreclosure option during the quarter. This is notable because the increase in the liquidation path is a result of higher good prices received at auction and a greater number of bids for properties. David will discuss this in greater detail later on in the presentation.
Turning to the Correspondent segment, total correspondent loan purchases were $3.4 billion in UCB of loans and interest rate lock commitment amounted to $4.6 billion compared to $1.8 billion and $2.3 billion respectively in the first quarter of 2012. Our total correspondent purchases conventional loans amounted to $1.8 billion, FHA loans were $1.6 billion and Jumbo loans were $2.6 million. Pre-tax income attributable to the Correspondent Lending segment was $12 million for the quarter, primarily driven by an $80 million net gain on mortgage loans acquired for sale and $3.2 million of interest income.
On slide 10, we take a look at the pre-tax earnings breakdown for the investment activity segment. Total pre-tax income for PMT was $38 million in the second quarter with $26 million coming from our Investment Activity. Pre-tax income for this segment was driven by a significantly higher net investment income, which as I mentioned earlier was driven by higher liquidation activity, improved home price performance and better loan attributes.
Liquidation activity includes; one, prepayment, REO sale and sales of foreclosed property for third-party which outgrows during the quarter. Home price and loan attributes are inputs resulting in valuation adjustments to the portfolio which flows through net gain on investments. The general improvement of loan attributes occurs as loans in the portfolio moves closer towards their ultimate revolution. Home values performed better in the second quarter against earlier projections which contrast with the first quarter of 2012 performance when home values decreased to more than projected.
Generally, home price performance improved in the second quarter against our projections in the regions where PMT has the greatest exposure, primarily California and Florida. However, the improvement in home price performance in the second quarter was partially offset by our projection of future home prices which tempered values of our distressed loan portfolio by extending out the recovery period for home prices.
While we are encouraged by recent home price improvements in several areas of the nation, we recognize that volatility will be inherent in home prices for the foreseeable future. Expenses in the segment rose 13%, primarily due to a rise in servicing expense attendant to higher liquidation and loss mitigation activity and increases in due diligence and other fees resulting from portfolio acquisitions in the second quarter.
Turning to the Correspondent Lending segment on slide 11, pre-tax earnings for the second quarter totaled $12 million, a 17% quarter-over-quarter increase. Correspondent earnings are driven predominantly by the volume of loss and purchases of conventional loans. In the second quarter the volume of loan purchases totaled $3.4 billion, of which $1.8 billion were purchases of conforming loans, a 78% increase in the first quarter 2012.
Significantly increased correspondent volume partially offset by small declines in margins drove the segments net gain and mortgage loans acquired for sale to $18 million in the second quarter compared to $13.4 million in the first quarter of 2012.
Interest income from Correspondent Lending was $3.2 million for the second quarter as the growth in production increased the average balance of mortgage loans in inventory compared to the prior quarter. Loan fulfillment fees paid to PLS reached $7.7 million in the second quarter and are recognized when the loans are sold. These fees cover a wide array of activity ranging from infrastructure and relationship development through to the processing, quality control, hedging, underwriting, funding, packaging and sale of the loans.
Let’s turn to slide 12 for a discussion of the largest driver of the net gain on mortgage loans acquired for sale, the valuation of mortgage servicing rights. The recognition of the mortgage servicing right asset drives a large portion of the gain on the mortgage loans that PMT acquired for sale. The MSR value is included in the valuation of interest rate lock commitments and the inventory of mortgage loans. And MSR, as I reported, is a separate asset of non-saleable loans. In basic terms, the MSRs represent a right to a stream of cash flows over the expected life of the mortgage discounted to present value. The substantial variables within that calculation are market yield expectations, the estimated life of the loan that is how long the cash flows are expected to be received, the amount of servicing fee retained and estimates of the ancillary fee income and expenses.
Beyond the individual mechanics of valuation, average MSR capitalization rates will vary significantly based on variations in product mix. For example, the characteristics of government and agency products can create significant valuation differences as well as the mix of 30-year, 15-year and adjustable rate products. It is important that the nuances of valuations to be considered in context of the underlying pool loan production when looking at MSR capitalization rates across industry participants.
In the second quarter, PMT capitalized MSRs on conventional mortgage loans sold during the quarter at an average rate of a 110 basis points. The UPB of conventional loans sold during the quarter totaled $1.54 billion and the weighted average note rate of the loan sold was 4.02%. For government loan originations, PMT earns a sourcing fee of 3 basis points and interest income for the holding period prior to their sales to PLS. Servicing originated in the current low rate environment is valuable due to the relatively lower risk of prepayment. We view the opportunity to build an MSR portfolio in the current environment as a particularly attractive investment and PMT through PLS and PCM has the capability, infrastructure and expertise necessary to prudently grow its correspondent business while capitalizing on this opportunity.
Let’s turn to slide 13, and take a look at PMT’s growing portfolio of MSRs in more detail. As our correspondent money volume continues to grow, the size of PMT’s investment in mortgage servicing rights will grow as well. In the second quarter the servicing portfolio grew 91% compared to the first quarter of 2012. With today’s rates near historical lows prepayment rates on current production is also relatively low. Given that the age of the PMT portfolio is relatively young with most of the purchases occurring in the last three quarters, the majority of the loans in the portfolio have a relatively low coupon. However, rates on a 30-year fixed rate mortgage declined 33 basis points throughout the second quarter. The drop in rates resulted in a $1.9 million valuation adjustment due to higher prepayment expectation, which in turn drove an $855,000 negative net loan servicing fee in the second quarter.
We are lucky to record MSRs with no rates equal to or less than 4.5% using the amortization method under which they’re carried at the lower of their amortized cost or fair value or low comp. Under low comp, the impairment charge taken in the second quarter is recorded in a valuation allowance account, provided an impairment is not seemed to be other than temporary, the amount of the allowance account can be recovered as servicing values increase which should occur if rates rise.
We account for MSRs with no rates above 4.5% of fair value, since we believe the risk profile of those loans differs. MSR accounted for a fair value comprised 4% of the total capitalized MSR at June 30, 2012. Given the higher note rate, these MSRs have a greater potential to gain or lose value as interest rates fluctuate with the resulting gain or loss falling through current period earnings. The impact of changes in the value of MSRs carried at fair value can be volatile. And this volatility can be mitigated through the purchase of derivative instruments for hedging purposes. At present we are not hedging our MSR assets.
I would now like to turn it over to David Spector, PMT’s President and Chief Operating Officer to go over the operational activities of the second quarter.
David A. Spector
Thank you, Anne. During the second quarter PCM reviewed approximately $2.5 billion in unpaid principal balance of distressed whole loans. Overall, the flow is strong and steady throughout the quarter with multiple sellers putting pools up for sale. We expect this flow to continue to be strong for at least the next 12 months and it is probable that we see it going beyond the 12-month horizon.
As we look forward over the next year, we see a pipeline of approximately $15 billion to $20 billion in distressed whole loans and have already been identified by market participants is likely to comp for sale. This estimations includes both non-performing and re-performing pools. We are currently seeing a steady flow of $1 billion to $2 billion of whole loan pools coming to market each month from problematic sellers and expect new sellers to enter the market incrementally over the next year.
Current whole loan pricing reflects the strong demand in the market place and increased optimism surrounding the stabilization of housing prices. Sellers have reentered the market on a more consistent basis since the Attorneys General foreclosure settlement in the first quarter. At present there is a strong demand for whole loans which is being met by healthy supply from sellers.
Let’s now turn to slide 16 to take a look at PMT’s acquisitions during the second quarter. PMT completed acquisitions of distressed whole loans totaling $402 million in UPB in the second quarter. Approximately 44% of our acquisitions were re-performing whole loans. These are loans that were previously modified and have been current for some period of time.
Strategically these loans provide PMT with the cash flowing asset with the potential for greater upside to refinancing or securitization. The potential for some of these loans to refinance into the FHAs negative equity program is just one example how PMT through PLS has the potential to realize strong returns from these pools. However, these loans have been acquired at levels which they [coin] the loan attractive investment opportunity even if the [upper belt] is not currently feasible.
As Stan and Anne have discussed, liquidation activity was strong during the quarter. The next two slides will provide additional details driving liquidation of loans in the portfolio.
Let’s turn to slide 17 and take a quick look at how the portfolio of whole loans progressed over the quarter. Portfolio liquidations rose 24% quarter-over-quarter and was supported by strong levels of REO and short sales. REO sales comprised nearly half of the liquidation activity and increased 19% in the quarter. Loan liquidations, which is comprised of short sales, payouts and third-party foreclosure sales totaled nearly $80 million in UPB in the second quarter.
One of our preferred liquidation outcomes, the FHA negative equity refinance, improved for the third straight quarter. PLS continues to dedicate resources for this particular liquidation path as it provides a positive outcome for borrowers, [consolidated] returns for PMT. As you can see from the chart in the right, with the addition of the four whole loan pools purchased in the second quarter our portfolio now stands at approximately $1.9 billion in UPB.
Let’s turn to slide 18 and take a closer look at REO sales and third-party foreclosure sales. Third-party foreclosure sales doubled in the second quarter indicating strong demand for these properties. Our evidence suggests that third-party foreclosure sales were up as investors looked to capitalize on the purchase to rental strategy has become popular in the market today. Our sales price and REO liquidation as a percent of the estimated market value was the highest that we’ve seen in some time.
With the aspects we believe driving these higher values into the lower level of inventory with existing homes. The month’s inventory of existing homes has fallen to 6.6 months versus 9 months a year-ago helping to drive the multiple awkward scenarios we’re seeing on our list of properties and resulting in group prices. Housing inventory has consistently been at these low levels since 2006, which helps to explain the foreclosure sale pricing activity you saw this quarter.
Slide 19 contains a chart we provided for a number of quarters going up and believe it is invested a quick snapshot of how the loans are progressing through the resolution process. As you can see 47% of loans PMT acquired in the first quarter of 2010 remain in the portfolio. It means that over half of the portfolio is liquidated over the past two years. If you exclude the re-performing loans from this ratio and the pool factor for non-performing loans will be 34%.
These re-performing loans will also be (indiscernible) to enhance the company’s returns which would be achieved through sale for securitization of re-performing loans to investors or to refinance. Borrowers who remain currently, eventually qualify for the FHAs negative equity refinance program, which will make the loan immediately saleable. Also re-performing loans provide PMT with a steady cash flow. For those loans that PLS is not able to modify over the current, they will continue to work with the borrowers to progress them to a resolution path.
I would now like to turn it over to Doug Jones to go over our correspondent operations. Doug?
Thanks, David. The Correspondent landscape is going through a transformation as most of the big banks who have been the market leaders in the channel for many years are exiting on materially reducing their volumes. This market change is primarily due to pending implementation of hassle free capital requirements, operational complexities, and (indiscernible). Many of those banks have shifted their focus to the retail channels; this has created an opportunity for non-bank financial intermediary such as PMT to fill the result in volume.
We're taking a differentiated approach to this opportunity and being very selective in our business partner approval. Our client focus model drives a neutrally beneficial and meaningful relationship with each of our correspondent customers. We believe that most of our customer base will continue to take market share and increase our opportunity to grow within the selected customer base.
In response to increasing demand from business partners on the east coast PLS which serves as PMT’s fulfillment provider and servicer and the entity where a correspondent operation [reside] has opened an operations facility in Tampa, Florida. This facility will house for government personal and allow us to provide a more efficient level of service to our eastern and central time zone customers and thus expand our footprint with these new customers.
The correspondent money group has delivered outstanding results to-date, and that trend continued in the second quarter. Loan purchased volumes during the quarter eclipsed $3.4 billion with conventional purchases comprising $1.8 billion of that amount. Our Jumbo production continues to be minimal. However, we have the full capabilities in place to purchase significant volumes of the Jumbo loans as market demand returns.
Our business partners continued to grow with over 117 customers across the country and it continued to build operations with employee talent of over 166 CLG employees in our Moorpark headquarters facility and 40 in our new Tampa facility. It’s important to mention that we have maintained the high-quality credit standard on our borrowers as we did scale the volume. This is evident from the credit profile statistics we provide on the bottom right portion of slide 21.
Now let’s turn to slide 22 and see how our volume has grown over the past year. As I previously mentioned, correspondent purchases were $3.4 billion in the second quarter and loss totaled $4.6 billion. Conventional funding volume reached $1.8 billion with locks totaling $2.7 billion.
The solid growth of the correspondent volume reflects the client focused business model that I mentioned earlier. This has been instrumental in allowing our business to grow at its current pace. July results look to continue PMT’s correspondent growth with purchases coming in at approximately $1.7 billion and interest rate lock commitments to be at $2.4 billion. That conventional numbers will be just under $1 billion in purchases and $1.4 billion in loss.
Now let’s turn to slide 23 and see how we intend to continue growing our correspondent business. As we surpassed our target of $1 billion per month in purchases by the end of the second quarter and in fact we’ve purchased $1.4 billion in the month of June. We are currently targeting $2 billion per month by the end of the third quarter and prepare to continue to grow our volume in a prudent and measured fashion.
Our new operations facility in Tampa expands our geographic footprint and should enable us to expand our correspondent customer base. As we continue to grow the correspondent business, PMT benefits from the variable cost structure that is important to its affiliation with PLS. With infrastructure growth to handle increasing volumes occurring in PLS, PMT support a greater flexibility and scale.
PLS continues to build their operations as it has over the past two years with ongoing enhancements to the workforce, workflows, systems, facilities and capabilities. We continue to pursue additional business partners and to grow our share with existing customers while also expanding our product menu. We have also began to do data testing in our warehouse lending business and expect to continue building that business prudently and methodically much like we did in our correspondent lending business.
In summary, PLS and PCM we’re pursuing an ongoing growth in our correspondent business to support the growing demand for a non-bank mortgage intermediary with the operational capabilities and experience that PMT brings.
And now Stan, I’ll turn it back to you for the wrap up.
Stanford L Kurland
Thanks, Doug. I like to briefly review the key takeaways from the quarter. PMT’s second quarter results demonstrate the strength of its business model and strategy as well as the solid operational execution of both PCM and PLS. Both of our business segments delivered record pre-tax earnings as they continue to grow their asset bases.
Our correspondent business continues to increase purchase volume and the servicing portfolio as it builds its business partner relationships. As that segment moves ahead, the continued and growing relationships with our business partners will help to ensure steady and reliable growth. Our investment activities continue to deliver solid returns with both their liquidation activities as well as their modification activities.
We continue to remain opportunistic in this market for new pools. And as David described earlier, we see a healthy pipeline of $15 billion to $20 billion of UPB coming to the market over the next 12 months. As we look ahead, there are significant opportunities in the market. In fact, we’re seeing more opportunities today than we have at any time over the past three years. We believe that we’re in the midst of a unique window of opportunity for the mortgage market and believe that PMT is well positioned to capitalize on those opportunities. Thank you.
This concludes the PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. For any questions please visit our Investor Relations website at www.PennyMac-REIT.com. or contact our Investor Relations Department at 818-224-7028. Thank you.
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