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American Express (AXP) continues to be a favored short. And that's because they hold consumer debt, and fall prey to mounting delinquencies. So when I learned that UBS upgraded the stock last Tuesday morning from Sell to Neutral, I had to laugh at the absurdity.
The argument remains the same, though.
If you want to own a credit card stock, buy Visa (V) or MasterCard (MA). They do not hold consumer debt. They simply process the cards.
American Express, on the other hand, deals directly with credit. It has to worry that as of November 2007, credit card debt "soared at an 11.3 percent annual rate in November following an 8.5 percent rate of increase in October" and is still on the rise."

They're the ones where share values are being beaten stilly because of charge-offs, payment delays, and higher delinquencies. Why do you think Discover Financial Services' (DFS) stock plunged from a $35 IPO price to $13? It's a card lender, and concerns itself directly with cardholder debt.

Same goes for American Express, who's CEO said:
Business conditions continue to weaken in the U.S. and so far this month [June 2008] we have seen credit indicators deteriorate beyond our expectations.
It was January when AXP's CFO Daniel Henry predicted that the company's U.S. write off rate would peak between 5.1% and 5.3% in 2008. Unfortunately, a 5.3% write off rate was reached in March. It's now July and delinquencies and default rates are growing worse.
The United States of Cash-Strapped America
With homeowners struggling to stay above water, American Express has to worry about further delinquency problems, as credit card debt balloons. You're better off longing MasterCard stock and Visa, than naively risking bets on American Express stock.
Instead of just using credit cards for big ticket items (TVs, furniture), some are now charging gas, food, and even paying other bills with them. And some are only making minimum payments... if they can afford even that.
It's far more difficult these days for many consumers to dig their way out of debt, since other relied upon options, such as home equity lines of credit, are no longer readily available.
National revolving debt just hit a record $957 billion in April, from $800 billion four years ago. Total credit card debt was up by 0.4% in April, according to the Fed. And Moody's is reporting that the charge-off rate, which measures credit accounts considered uncollectible, hit 6.27% in April.
Q1 consumer borrowing skyrocketed to $34 billion, the biggest amount since 2001 when the U.S. was diving into a recession. And not all of that may be paid back. Credit card investors are becoming increasingly concerned that a weaker U.S. economy will hurt borrowers' ability to pay back debt.
But as long as there are naïve investors, and foolish upgrading banks, it's hard to get that reality to the investing masses. Still, downside risks remain at American Express... even Discover and Capital One. They'll slide long-term as subprime fiascos are replaced with Option ARM reset fiascos.
High Gas Prices, Housing Slump, and Rising Unemployment...Oh My
Credit card issuers will face more losses than initially expected.
Hit by cash-strapped consumer reliance on plastic amid rising gas prices, a housing slump, and rising employment, credit issuers could see earnings thwacked by defaults.
"The deterioration in credit cards is accelerating faster than many had expected," said Christopher Wolfe, an analyst at Fitch, according to CNN Money. "The message we are trying to deliver is that things are going to get worse before they get better. Thus far, credit card businesses have been profitable but that could change."
Worse, according to the CNN Money article, "Fitch analysts are expecting an increase in prime charge-off rates - or losses from defaults on card payments as a percentage of loans outstanding - to at least 7% by the end of the year from 6.4% in May."
Vulnerable are credit issuers like American Express, Washington Mutual, Capital One and Discover, not the Visa or MasterCard-like companies.
Ignore or short American Express... and hold long-term. Buy Visa or MasterCard stock if you must own a credit card company.
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as for me, i to ignore all three of them at this time
V and MA make money by the swipe, and swipes are way up. The number of swipes will continue to climb as the BRIC countries expand their middle class. V is particularly poised for a breakout with the upcoming Olympics. Both of these stocks have been unfairly punished because they are incorrectly being lumped in with Financials.
Remember that before the first quarter earnings Visa was at prices of 73-75, after the earnings release the stock jumped to 80+. With second quarter earnings comming up look for the same trend. Visa and MA are being traded at high PE ratio compared to other credit cards, which is justified b/c of the limited or no exposure to consumer debt. While AXP and Discover will likely fall victim, as have banks recently, to the badd economy. The price of V has taken a beating because of lower expectations from the financial crisis, however once earnings release watch this baby sky rocket.
Here are some new tidbits:
1. AXP is mostly a network business like MC and V (eg no lending on most AXP products). They also have some lending, but they are not primarily a lender like a bank card issuer.
2. AXP has been building share in both network and lending by winning in the marketplace. On the lending side, even in a stable economy, you would be seeing AXP default rates go up now as recent balances are seasoned. But that lending would still be profitable on an IRR basis...the default rates are timing related.
3. OK, we don't have a stable economy, but the sky isn't falling either, particularly for AXP's premium customers. But if default rates go up for a few years, so what? Did you forget that AXP won judgements of about $1B each from V and MC? Goes a long way to shoring up an already very strong balance sheet.
4. Regarding valuation and sentiment, I agree with mrbill that V and MC fans, at least here on SA, are like a cult that wants you to drink their kool aid. The V/MC business model doesn't involve debt at a time when debt is out of fashion, fine. But what are they really? Back office processors. And their only real advantage is monopoly status...do people say "I choose Visa over X, Y or Z networks?" Not really. As monopololists they will invite continued governmental scrutiny on interchange, especially overseas and possibly in the US under a more populist democratic regime.
Recall that V/MC do not control their own customers. The banks do. And the supreme court case that led to V/MC giving AXP billions also said banks should feel free to issue cards on the AXP network. AXP interchange rates are much higher than V/MC so banks have an incentive to split profits on their high spending non-revolvers with AXP rather than sending them through V/MC. This is a real business at AXP called GNS and its one of their fastest growing.
So in conclusion, V/MC might do ok over the next 5 years but I'm betting AXP will do better. I don't view that position as naive.
Enjoy the kool-aid.
We will never see it go below $100 again IMHO.
Those that own the reserves will not let that happen. Besides they ain't makin no more oil!
Visa is not going to skyrocket after earnings report. It will move up but nothing in this market is going to skyrocket per se.
Long term MA or V is a great investment.
Not even Vwinner can propoganda the stock up in this market.
Ofcourse there is a risk and there is no stock purchase without any risk :) ..I am putting lot of faith on management and assumption that data provided by AXP is not manipulated - now thats a big trust but I trust AXP management. The day I can see a proof that they have not been honest with their share holders I will walk out of it. Based on this bad data, I just don't think it warrants to trade it a low price it trades currently. For me upshot is huge and if I am wrong (after all there are uncertainties) I will have to bite the bullet.
Now, about MA and V - I like both of them too. I would prefer V or MA.
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but remember even with v at 70, ma is dead cheap. so cheap it is trading at par with its growth for trailing and forward valuation. if market gives v, ma's valuation, v should be 60 to 64. this is hard to believe but in this bear market valuation compression will happen as it is happening for ma.
at 80 for v, it is really insane valuation. this means a 20% eps growth company like v, is being valued double that. no wonder it was sold off.
v has breached 70 support is super heavy volume. i wont touch v here. i will wait to see if 68 or 65 support holds.
as always ma is a strong buy here. <<<<matrader.blogspot.com&...;>>>
remember discover beat by 13%. v will smash by 25% and ma by 40%. why ma more beat. simple hyper europe story and strong global play. visa less of a beat because of strong america play where credit card market is to the full level.
Funny World.
On a different note, I know people here think Visa bloggers 'drank the kool aid' but there are a few of us who actually understand that ANY stock is a risk, and there is NO stock that is all good news. You need to know about the good and the bad, equally, to be fully informed. Otherwise, it is a cult.
And for those that bought any stock thinking it would put their kids through school, etc, should prepare the kids for home schooling with the market being what it is now.
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This said, Amex is a great company, and may well be a decent investment at some point, you could do a lot worse.
Just ignore the self-serving short's comments.
(MA) was definitley a better investment then (V) due to less shares outstanding and (MA)'s position to obtain market share overseas, however, (V) is the stronger of the two as (V) already controls the majority of the american market and are now focused on emerging economies. (V)'s value to shareholders will materialize slower than (MA)'s has due to expectation differentials. If (V) went public before (MA) the roles would be reversed, in fact (V) would already have surpassed (MA)'s current price.
(V) appears to be a nice hold for the next 2 - 4 years. The time horizon for cashing in on (V) for the long term investor has been pushed out farther due to economic slowdown. (V) should increase nicely during the next upward cycle.
Take a look at the Relative Strength Index (RSI) for Visa (V). Comparing it with the S&P, Dow, MasterCard, Discovery, and American Express, you'll find that Visa OUTPERFORMS all of these over a 6 month and year-to-date time line (caveat: MA has surpassed Visa for the last 2 weeks based on RSI).
While this may not be an indicator of who is the "better business", it clearly shows that V clearly outperformes versus the S&P, Dow, and other Credit Cards... a pattern emerges.
hbankers
So just how much money do they make on transactions?
As an example, let’s say you go out and purchase a watch for $100 by using your Visa card. Out of that $100 purchase, the merchant would usually pay 2%, or $2, of that fee for the use of the card (fees for merchants vary, as larger corporations like WalMart pay less than the typical Mom & Pop Shop). Out of that $2 fee, only about $0.20 go to Visa the rest would be paid to the issuer of the card (ex: Chase, Citi, etc.) and the bank it corresponded the transaction with. This is a pretty profitable business for all parties, but Visa acts as a pay-as-you-pass-go service because the transaction is made on their network, VisaNet.
Market Share
Visa Currently dominates the market across the board in total volume, transactions, cards, merchant outlets, and ATM’s. On a total volume, transaction, and card base, Visa is bigger than MasterCard, American Express, Discover, and JCB COMBINED! Out of the total credit card volume (excluding Europe) Visa operates with over a 60% share. Visa’s dominating market share isn’t a thing of the past, as transaction volume will continue to grow as they have issued the most cards versus their peers.
Visa vs. MasterCard
The similarities between the two companies are striking, as they both operate as card payment networks and don’t hold any credit exposure on their books. The main differences between Visa and MasterCard are: their IPO dates, litigation issues, geographic revenue streams, size of networks, and efficiency.
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I've been bullish on V from day one and even developed a blog around it:
www.visawinners.com
Come check it out.