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I recently came across a post on the Victor Niederhoffer Blog about the concept of Confirmatory Bias. I shall reprint the standard quote from Sir Francis Bacon that is used in much of the literature on this subject:

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it. And though there be a greater number and weight of instances to be found on the other side, yet these it either neglects and despises, or else by some distinction sets aside and rejects; in order that by this great and pernicious predetermination the authority of its former conclusions may remain inviolate...

After searching further, I came across a paper published in the Review of General Psychology in 1998 authored by Raymond S. Nickerson of Tufts University. I believe that the concepts he discusses have applicability to current beliefs by bullish energy investors about Oil.

Nickerson presents a modern definition of the concept of Confirmatory Bias:

...the seeking or interpreting of evidence in ways that are partial to existing beliefs, expectations, or a hypothesis in hand.

In his paper he reduces the concept to its component parts. I will discuss four of them, and then present my own.

Number 1 - Restriction of attention to a favored hypothesis.

"If one entertains only a single possible explanation of some event or phenomenon, one precludes the possibility of interpreting data as supportive of any alternative explanation."

Oil bulls believe that the only thing that can explain high oil prices is the trite hypothesis currently circulating in the market - that strong demand from emerging economies and limited, or even peak supply, is responsible. All other evidence to the contrary is ignored. The possibility that "speculators" or "traders" or "momentum players" may be partly responsible for a premium is scorned.

This belief, of course, ignores 220 years of history in the American financial markets, where there have been many cases of market speculation and/or manipulation, from Erie Canal bonds to Railroad bonds to Internet stocks. The real question that one should ask is the inverse of this - is there any financial instrument and/or Commodity that hasn't been subject to speculation or manipulation or overvaluation?

Number 2 - Preferential treatment of evidence supporting existing beliefs.

"...the tendency to give greater weight to information that is supportive of existing beliefs or opinions than to information that runs counter to them. This does not necessarily mean completely ignoring the counter indicative information but means being less receptive to it..."

This is seen regularly in any statistical report issued regarding oil. If the Department of Energy (DOE) or the International Agency Energy (IEA) comes out with any report that challenges the bull - the report is "bad data." Any statistics that support the bull is trumpeted for the world to see, thus proving the investment case.

If economic activity in the U.S. and other OECD nations slows down, leading to less demand for oil, it doesn't matter, as long as demand in China continues to grow at its absolute number of 500 thousand barrels a day. The fact that a 2% contraction in oil demand by the OECD would be twice China's absolute growth is not given any weight by the market.

Number 3 - Overweighting positive confirmatory instances.

"Studies of social judgment provide evidence that people tend to overweight positive confirmatory evidence or underweight negative discomfirmatory evidence."

The International Agency Energy (IEA) last week revised its estimates for the supply and demand situation in oil. The part of the report that made the headline was its prediction that the oil market would remain "tight" for the next five years. What was ignored was the negative information that the IEA had cut demand growth from 2.2 to 1.6% per year on average for the next five years. Although this cut in demand came from the mature economies and not the emerging economies, it is the equivalent of 500 thousand barrel a day of demand being taken off the market. This equals all of the growth in China every year for the next five years.

Number 4 - Seeing what one is looking for.


"People sometimes see in data the patterns for which they are looking, regardless of whether the patterns are really there."

This is also very prevalent in oil markets. Every other week there is news about some labor strife in Nigeria, a major oil exporter. This usually results in a couple hundred thousand barrels a day being temporarily removed from the market, and a $4 dollar a barrel rise in price. Yet when Saudi Arabia increases production by 500 thousand barrels a day, the market doesn't care. Investors see a temporary supply disruption as permanent, and ignore a permanent increase.

 

 

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    good blog, and I expect the oil bulls will be yelping for the next few legs down.
    2008 Jul 17 03:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    Your point Was? Do you think there is an error in the logic of the oil bulls, or is your bias in favor of merely cautioning all against the frailties of the human psyche?

    My only observation is that bias are learned from experience and more often than not are well founded. Why would one suspect himself of error when his personal history tells him that, on the whole, his judgment has been reliable? Did you know that Bacon was a thief and was convicted for thief? His character was hardly better than his over generalizations, of was that his point?
    2008 Jul 17 04:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    Excellent presentation. Of course, confirmatory bias operates both on oil bulls and oil bears. Everyone is susceptible.

    I must say that the "peak oil" enthusiasts do have a one-track mind. Whether they are not intelligent enough to weigh more than one variable (cause) at a time, or whether their beliefs are simply too strong to allow a complex mental representation of the reality, they seem to be mired in simplisme.
    2008 Jul 17 05:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    I didn't invest in oil. Sure, I wish I had now a year ago, so do 10 million other people. I can't invest in what I can't research. There are 20 or 30 variables surrounding oil and it appears that only 4 or 5 can be researched with quantifyable facts through research (secondary). Primary research would only be obtained in 1 variable through surveys. Maybe that is the true lesson here. Lack of research kills.
    2008 Jul 17 05:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for a great article.
    2008 Jul 17 05:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    Great article, although the confirmatory bias that I (and I think many others) are more interested in transcending is that cheaper or more oil will allay our energy crisis. The alternative view that I (and I hope many others) am a proponent of is that now is the time to invest in non-fossil fuels such as solar, bio-fuels, and wind. I believe that higher oil prices actually reinforce the rationale (both economic and otherwise) to invest in alternatives.

    For me, the cost of oil or why it is expensive is secondary to transcending oil and our reliance on a single type of fuel. We need to diversify.

    However, the phenomenon of confirmatory bias that you point out is of course most rampant and interesting. We generally see what we want to see...

    2008 Jul 17 05:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    There are a number of problems with this article. Primarily, it seems to be making a sort of 'collectivist straw man' argument - i.e. painting all oil bulls as having the same series of rationales, and then attacking the collective 'them' simplistically. Real life is far more complicated than this analysis would seem to indicate. Like any other bulls, oil bulls are bullish for different reasons.

    The article author's bias becomes apparent with this statement:

    "Investors ...ignore a permanent increase."

    A "permanent" increase? That would seem to be an admission of belief in the abiotic origin of oil; i.e. the notion that oil is not a finite, non-renewable resource but is in fact infinite. This is even more of a fringe belief - by far - then peak oil!

    The essay appears to be a work in over-generalization. This is just as fallacious a logical approach as confirmation bias, of course. Rather ironic.

    A final comment: this statement: "Every other week there is news about some labor strife in Nigeria" certainly appears to qualify as confirmation bias in its own right under one of the definitions the author himself provides: "...the tendency to give greater weight to information that is supportive of existing beliefs or opinions than to information that runs counter to them. This does not necessarily mean completely ignoring the counter indicative information but means being less receptive to it..."

    Bombs blowing up oil pipelines = labor strife?

    Doubly ironic.
    2008 Jul 17 05:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    A worthwhile read, although you are obviously a oil bubble bear. The examples are valid however and I think either camp would find this article thought provoking. Thanks!
    2008 Jul 17 06:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    The excessive spending of the congress, the government having their fingers in our pockets through proposed higher taxes and non-productive but corrupt (though buying votes) new entitlements and stimulation packets supported by both aisles, Mr. Bernankes freebies to his ilk, the colossal national debt burden that will never be paid back and the incredibly weak $ will continue to drive the oil price up until we are all choking.

    How is that? Please note, none of the factors mentioned are directly related to oil but they are predictable like a Swiss watch. Investment in oil is a protection against self-inflicted inflation. Well, that is trivial. Not difficult to be a bull even on a choppy day like this.

    2008 Jul 17 06:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    Presuming oil is going to drop to a realistic price, I really think the best thing to happen would be that gas goes down to a goldilocks price. Not to high to help the economy and inflation correct back, and not to low as to stop the pressure of alternative energy and fuel sources.
    2008 Jul 17 07:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    What oil bears seem to miss repeatedly is that oil is NOT a free market. Even if peak oil is hogwash, there is a group of oil producers that control almost 50% of global production that have agendas that are at least partially driven by factors other than economics. I refer, of course, to OPEC.

    Due to OPEC, downside risk for the oil bulls is rather limited, while upside is not so.

    PREDICTION:

    If oil approaches $105-110 (which I think is quite unlikely), watch Saudi Arabia rescind its recently-announced 200K bpd of extra production that began this month. And if oil goes below $100 (which I consider extremely unlikely), watch Saudi Arabia reverse the full 500K production increase between May's and July's increases.

    Jack Yetiv
    2008 Jul 17 08:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    The article is right on. This kind of thing happens all the time.

    If you are long on oil -- your greed is turning to fear.

    Greed and fear -- at its most basic 'the market' is controlled by these two emotions.

    There is no "peak" of oil in the foreseeable future.

    Oil is a mineral, not the remnant of 'organic detritus'.

    The scientific basis is clear.

    And, yes, geologists have been caught up in the above psychology for decades. check out <a
    Href="oilismastery.blogspot..../ "> Oil Is Mastery. And learn the truth about oil.

    2008 Jul 17 08:11 PM | Link | Reply
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    I disagree with your thesis because geology beats physiology. Peak oil is absolute and your physiology cannot accept the evidence of geology.
    2008 Jul 17 09:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    This all makes sense. What cannot be known is where we are in the bubble. From the end of 1996 to Jan 2000 Yahoo went up 15,000%.

    When Yahoo was up 1000% it seemed to be a bubble. It rose another 15 fold. After Alan Greenspan made his famous comment on irrational exhuberance.

    From 1990 to 2000 Dell went up over 100,000%. Oil is different, but you just cannot rely on Francis Bacon to call this a top.
    2008 Jul 17 09:22 PM | Link | Reply
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    I spoke with the oil economist of the Alaska state government back in 2004 and he said oil wouldn't hold above $50, and he gave me a list of reasons why--including demand destruction.

    His only job was to predict oil prices.

    His confirmation bias was obvious in retrospect, but not at the time.

    Peak oil is a theory that has proven true in the US, as well as lesser oil producing countries-- a plateau was reached, and then decline.

    People now are applying the theory to the world as a whole, which is not outlandish.

    The most emotional arguments that I hear are not from the peak oil theorists, but from everyday folks, and everyday news channels that oil is cheap and abundant, but oil companies are reaping obscene profits, and greedy manipulators are stealing Americas wealth.

    Guess which side appears to have the higher level of confirmation bias?
    2008 Jul 17 11:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    I love this article! You encounter the concept of confirmation bias, and you immediately fall in love with it because it confirms your bias that oil bulls are misled. LOL!

    I completely agree with your thought that all investors need to be concerned with confirmation bias, and I highly recommend The Black Swan for that concept and others. However it is a risk and pitfall that every investor needs to struggle against (with the possible exception of index investors).

    I agree with you about the peak oil crowd, but the same applies to the oil bubble crowd.
    2008 Jul 17 11:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    When retails are dead sure about the "one thing", it's time to take the opposite position.

    During last week or two, whenever somebody wrote something negative about crude oil price, hordes of retails would come out bashing the author with expletives.

    That was the signal for me to get rid off my USO at 114.
    2008 Jul 17 11:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    I must admit, I was firmly in the camp that oil demand was increasing worldwide and supply was tightening, but after reading this brilliant article, I now believe that demand is actually decreasing, that world populations are actually shrinking, that China and India and other emerging economies don't want to consume oil, and that the supply of oil is logically increasing! NOT!
    2008 Jul 18 12:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    A lot of oil bulls on this commentary -- or is it just BULL?

    starkoski: You are right, geology beats psychology -- but geology is wrong about the origin of oil. Oil is a mineral. Why do you think the oilfield services companies are riding high? If there wasn't much more oil out there to find, it wouldn't matter how high was the price of oil. Oilfield services companies are in the business to find oil.

    The U.S. plateau in the '70s was when oil was regulated, some as low as $3 a barrel -- big surprise oil companies weren't looking for oil.

    The continental margin is where the truly big deposits of oil are and that has just begun to be explored.

    That's why day rates for deepwater, deep-drilling rigs are at record highs.

    'Markets' are determined, not so much by the logic of words as by the sterner logic of facts.

    Demand destruction is real -- "Peak" oil is false.

    "Peak" oil is rubbish -- <a
    Href=“http://oilismast... “> Oil Is Mastery.

    If you want to look at the science of oil then Oil Is Mastery is the place -- your blind devotion to "Peak" oil will make you a poor fellow.

    Your arogance will be your downfall.
    2008 Jul 18 01:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    very well said!!!! Great article!
    2008 Jul 18 01:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    oil is a mineral ? hardly. over geologic time thermodynamics says all hydrocarbons will become methane and graphite (the only question being the rate of the transformation), under some conditions of heat & pressure some of the graphite will become a metastable phase - called diamond.
    > jack
    2008 Jul 18 08:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thank you for all your comments. I didn't receive as much abuse as usual when I write on oil, maybe the $15 drop the last 3 days has kept some of the Seeking Alpha oil bulls glued to their screens.

    2008 Jul 18 08:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    whidbey...the point I was trying to make was with the frailties of the human psyche as you say - not picking on oil bulls. I did not know Bacon was a thief, but his statement does make sense. I have always tried to understand behavioral and psychological biases when I make investment decisions.

    akapital9....you said "now is the time to invest in non-fossil fuels such as solar, bio-fuels, and wind."

    ozzy43....you said "oil bulls are bullish for different reasons."

    It seems the main arguments are always the same - strong demand from emerging economies and limited or no supply growth. Everything else flows from that. That wasn't the point of the article, but click on my seeking Alpha and read my other articles on oil.

    Also, when I wrote "permanent increase" I meant permanent until the Saudis cut back. I wasn't implying a belief in abiotic oil. As for the labor strife comment - violence can go hand in hand with labor organization and attempts to get more, just look at the history of the American labor movement. Maybe you are right and I oversimplified the issues by labeling them as labor strife. Again, that wasn't the point. The point was that the market used that component of confirmatory bias to weight the loss of Nigerian and the gain in Saudi crude differently.
    2008 Jul 18 08:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    my old friend Jack Yetiv....I agree with your prediction but must note that no one and I mean no one thinks oil will go below $100. Of course, that does not mean it won't happen.

    ehart500...you said "I spoke with the oil economist of the Alaska state government back in 2004 and he said oil wouldn't hold above $50, and he gave me a list of reasons why--including demand destruction."

    you are right, people have been screaming about the collapse of oil for many years, but if you look at the data, the high price is finally taking a toll on demand particularly at a time when the economy is weakening and house prices are declining.
    2008 Jul 18 08:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    sophisse...you are right, confirm bias exists on both sides. I try to avoid it as much as I can, but since I am human it does impact my thoughts.

    crapneck...keep an open mind now - sarcasm is no substitute for analysis. No investment thesis lasts forever. Remember growth always disappoints in the end as every industry is cyclical no matter how growthy it looks and how long the cycle is.
    2008 Jul 18 09:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    akapital9....you said "now is the time to invest in non-fossil fuels such as solar, bio-fuels, and wind."

    I meant to add that I agree with you on this.
    2008 Jul 18 09:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    the author is describing emperor george dubya's fixation on invading iraq and then continuing the war ad infinitum. read barbara w.tuchman;s book 'the march of folly' which describes the fall of troy, the origins of the protestant reformation, king george III's loss of the 13 colonies, the huge waste of national reasure in vietnam, etc.
    > jack
    2008 Jul 18 10:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    All oil has traces of diamondoids, diamonds on the molecular level. All authorities agree, daimonds are only created in the mantle under conditions of ultra-high heat and pressure. Chevron scientists isolated diamondoids, but where only able to create diamondoids using ultra-high heat and pressure.

    The conclusion is straightforward enough: diamondoids, like diamonds, are created in the mantle in conjunction with oil.

    John S. Gordon, you idea isn't confirmed by science -- the crust is an environment of methane creation and hydrocarbon destruction.

    Certainly not diamond creation.

    Try getting your science right and you might have an once of credibility.

    Oil is an ultramafic mineral (formed in ultra-high heat and pressure) and obeys the rules of all mineral formation dictated by heat and pressure gradient. By the way, this also dictates oil's formation & dissolution.

    Oil is a mineral -- unique in certain respects, but still a mineral.
    2008 Jul 18 10:48 AM | Link | Reply
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    one particular comment on the IEA cuts demand comment - if you are familiar with the IEA reports you will have noticed the serial correlation of their demand revisions. Their demand forecasts have been ridiculously bullish for a while and people with a professional interest in oil demand foreacsts, well those I know and myself, have doubted the growth rates for a long time, so a downward revision of IEA numbers will probably not be a shock to the market, but rather something that had been seem coming. The standard explanation is that the IEA publishes overly bullish demand numbers to exert pressure on OPEC to open the tabs.
    2008 Jul 18 10:49 AM | Link | Reply
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    anaconda - huh? oil is not found in igneous formations (otherwise all of the canadian precambrian shield would be full of oil). oil is found in sedimentary formations where there is a caprock to stop upward migration (otherwise you have a labrea or trinidad type tar pit). in the initial 1930's explorations in saudiland, the geologists were looking for foraminifera. they knew that where you found foram fossils there was likely to be an oilpool below.
    > jack
    2008 Jul 18 11:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    #4 the author sees the "Saudi increase" as permanent! That is a big ASSumption since they vote against us 80% ++ of the time in the UN. It was a good article until he showed his bias.
    2008 Jul 18 12:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    Politics, domestic and international, has a tremendous effect on oil prices. There is no physical lack of oil under the surface. My estimate is the Saudi lift price per barrel is $5 or so. Whether they can or cannot increase production, and by what factor, is a matter of great dispute. Guessing which way the oil price cat will jump requires a lot of attention to the human political factor in addition to the physical and geologic factors.
    2008 Jul 18 12:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    To John S. Gordon:
    Good ploy -- change the subject -- don't respond to my point about diamondoids and your obvious mistaken diamond comment.

    But going to your new point: "oil is not found in igneous formations (otherwise all of the canadian precambrian shield would be full of oil).

    Wrong, again. There is oil found in igneous formations, i.e., the White Tiger oil field off Vietnam's coast and many other examples.

    And, yes, there is oil found in precambrian formations. And as far as the Canadian shield -- where do you think all that tar sand came from. Tar sand is generally a high atomic weight, long chain hydrocarbon that never was buried deep enough, according to "fossil" theory to create kerogen. "Diagenesis" is a made-up word for a made up "process" that has no scientific basis or experimental backup.

    John says: "oil is found in sedimentary formations where there is a caprock to stop upward migration (otherwise you have a labrea or trinidad type tar pit)."

    Correct. But the 'source' is not remnant of organic detritus.

    The Saudi oil field Ghawar is the largest oil field in the world. The Ghawar complex is performing extremely well. The field has been on production since the 1950s and is steady at roughly 5 million bopd.

    A 19 mile cube of oil has been produced at Ghawar. Roughly 100,000 feet high -- organic detritus supplied that?

    But getting back to my point -- what about diamondoids in all oil?

    And, again, no diamonds aren't formed in the crust.








    2008 Jul 18 12:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    adamantane - interesting material, i will have to do some more reading. alta/sask tar sands - deposits are found to the southwest of the precambrian shield. how did the sand get there? fossil beach from before the cordilleran upthrust? further to the southwest lots of coal, gas (sulfurous) and oil. lots of sedimentary rocks in the canadian rockies (folded formations). oil & coal (lignite = juvenile coal) are found in southern saskatchewan (northern portion of williston basin), also potash (evaporative residue). no oil in northern ontario or quebec, all precambrian. i suppose we will have to go to the moon & drill for oil there.
    ghawar - 19 mile cube. not very impressive compared to all the coal seams in the u.s.a. how much subsidence has occurred there as a result of production? there has been a lot of subsidence in the los angeles basin due to oil removal, i've heard numbers like 15 feet in places.
    > jack
    2008 Jul 18 02:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    sorry had to break off discussion & straighten out my brokerage account.
    'bitumen' is the term the albertans use. not the same thing as kerogen in colorado oil shale (freshwater algal remains).
    in 1939 there was oil production on the mackenzie river, NWT @ canol. that was before leduc came in big time.
    > jack
    2008 Jul 18 02:50 PM | Link | Reply
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    Jack,

    The tar sands? You're the one that needs organic detritus to "cook" in the crust, but there's no evidence to support the idea that the tar sand was ever deep enough to "cook." Abiotic theory doesn't require made-up words to describe make believe "processes." Rather, millions of years ago there was a massive 'outpouring' of hydrocarbons to the surface and it has been degrading ever since.

    Sulphur is many times mixed in with crude oil, as in 'sour' crude oil. Sulphur is a 'solfataric' mineral that emanates from vents -- sorry, there aren't any large organic detritus sources of sulphur.

    Lignite is brown coal that derives from peat bogs -- the one organic source of "coal." Its composition is materially different from anthracite coal or hard coal.

    Guess, you gave up on your previous point -- yes, there is plenty of oil in igneous rocks.

    The Lost Soldier Field in Wyoming has oil pools at every horizon of the geological section, from the Cambrian sandstone overlying the basement to the upper Cretaceous deposits. A flow of oil was also obtained from the basement itself. Hydrocarbon gases are not rare in igneous and metamorphic rocks of the Canadian Shield.

    Potash and dolomite are examples of how wrong geology is at times. Dolomite is an ultramafic (formed in ultra-high heat and pressure) and is found in association with oil in 80% of the oil discoveries in North America, There is the Dolomites mountain chain in Italy (comprised of dolomite), yet geology has no answer because they think it's strictly a sedimentary mineral.

    Potash is another mineral that geology holds as sedimentary, but evidence suggests it isn't. It's a mineral that is made of potassium carbon and oxygen -- K2CO3, there are variations -- such is the case with most minerals.

    Sorry to disappoint you but coal seams are also abiotic -- 800 foot coal seam in Australia -- sorry, that isn't from organic detritus

    Subsidence doesn't disprove or prove either theory.

    Your response to Ghawar doesn't explain how all that organic detritus collected at one spot.

    Also, 70% of the giant oil fields are located over tectonic faults.

    Jack, you're breaking down "geologists say" isn't proof of anything.

    Actually, Colorado "oil shale" are the sedimentary remains of lakes where heavy oil, high atomic weight oil, C215H330 leached into the lakes from oil seeps in the raparian watershed. Just like the hundreds of heavy oil seeps in California and in Iraq where oil bubbles from the ground like in the Beverly Hill Billies.

    C215H330 atomic weight hydrocarbons doesn't come from marine algae.

    Bitumen is also heavy atomic weight long chain hydrocarbons where the volatiles have evaporated oil to leave the solids behind.

    Bitumens have been found in igneous rock in Syria with no evidence of sedimentary rocks in the area.
    2008 Jul 18 05:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    Jack,
    Gotta follow up on those tar sands, since you make so much of them. The enormous quantities of hydrocarbons in the Athabasca tar sands in Canada would have required vast amounts of source rocks for their generation in the conventional discussion, when in fact no source rocks have been found.

    Oil is an ultramafic mineral.
    2008 Jul 18 06:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    If there is a bias in this case or any like it , it's to ignore reality ,in this case that theres a finite amount of oil and believe that there is an infinite amount of oil or whatever substance you want to appear out of thin air . You bubbleheads have been calling for this oil popping since oil was 20 dollars a barrel .To believe that american demand destruction , by using less gasoline , is going to bring down the cost of oil is absolute IDIOCY .If you bubbleheads would bother to read ,if you can , you would know that diesel fuel is one of if not the strongest driver for the demand of oil .Diesel of course is used industrially . One other MINOR point is that the IEA stated there was demand destruction but would be more than offset by demand from china , India and Russia and that the world would have to find lots more oil or there will be a shortage .. If you haven't heard these are very big countries , much bigger than the US .The fundamental problem is that you bubbleheads either don't or can't read or understand the facts . THIS IS WHY WE HAVE HIGH OIL PRICES .
    2008 Jul 18 10:50 PM | Link | Reply
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    To surgcare:
    To believe the law of supply and demand has been suspended is "IDIOCY."

    Demand has gone down in the U.S., that's the facts, Jack, including diesel.

    China and India and the rest are also subject to the law of supply and demand -- their prices for gasoline and diesel are going up, too.

    China and to some extent India subsidize their oil consumption, which does diminish the demand destruction, but I read prices are increasing in China, too.

    The continental margin is where the largest oil deposits are located (excepting the Middle East, which is a continental margin, but above sea level) -- this has just begun to be explored.

    Your attempted insults fail to prove your point.

    Because it is YOU that have ignored too many facts.

    But I invite you to check out Oil Is Mastery to get the facts.

    <a
    href="oilismatery.blogspot.c.../ ">Oil Is Mastery.
    2008 Jul 19 11:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    <a
    href="oilismastery.blogspot.... /"> Oil is Mastery.
    2008 Jul 19 11:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    How low will oil go on this pullback? Iran may upset things to the upside next week.
    2008 Jul 19 09:42 PM | Link | Reply