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I would like to first clarify that in no way is this article written in support or opposition of the Sirius (SIRI) / XM (XMSR) merger. It is strictly an opinion on the actions of the FCC.

So Wishy Washy Adelstein retracts his vote on the SIRI / XM merger after first setting conditions for approval and then stating that there was room for negotiation of his conditions. I would now like to dissect his statement regarding this reversal.

I was hoping to forge a bipartisan solution that would offer consumers more diversity in programming,

This was already confirmed with ala-carte pricing John. So point number one is irrelevant.

better price protection,

Agreed , a six year price freeze is much better than three, this way the NAB has enough time to dig themselves out of the ditch they are in while you force a company with 5% market share to suffocate under inflationary costs.

expanded choices among innovative devices and real competition with digital radio.

Translation: "By abusing my power I can get the NAB to piggy back HD technology and use Sirius / XM's equipment and money to accomplish it. Talk about a cost savings to terrestrial radio! Hooray for me!"

How mysterious that he retracts his conditional vote just before a press release that Commissioner Tate will probably support the merger under her own conditions. You see, this way Johnny boy still looks good in the eyes of his NAB (ahem) supporters.

John, on behalf of the entire sane wold, I hereby ask for your resignation and deem you incompetent to make the kind of decisions that impact our system of Government. All sarcasm aside, If after 18 months you still have to back peddle and not stand behind your own decision, how can you possibly be trusted? At least Commissioner Copps had the backbone to be decisive. I strongly suggest a new career path John. Perhaps one less demanding; like a Circus Barker.

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    I suggest circus barker too demanding a job for him. How about latrine cleaner-outer for the afgan army.
    2008 Jul 25 06:40 AM | Link | Reply
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    good 4 me
    2008 Jul 25 06:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    Great article!!! I couldn't agree more. The term "self-serving " has never applied more than to Adelstein and his behavior during this fiasco of an approval process. His is not even qualified to run the midnight to 4 a.m. d.j. shift for a radio station in Podunk,U.S.A. He would need a backbone to work those kind of hours!!!
    2008 Jul 25 06:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    Yes, the NAB has definetely been filling his pockets....This is the face of so many people with power trying to manipulate situations to their own monetary advantage.
    2008 Jul 25 07:15 AM | Link | Reply
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    I used to be one of those who felt conspiracy theorists were a bit wacky and that the government was competent, dedicated to their task, and honest.

    The FCC's handling of this merger has changed that.
    2008 Jul 25 07:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    Great article. It's disgraceful that so much of our government is owned outright by big businesses such as the NAB. The US government clearly no longer represents the best interests of the public at large, but rather several giant multi-national corporations with the means to buy "our" congressmen.

    Adelstein should be arrested for his blatant favoritism of the NAB and terrestrial radio in general.
    2008 Jul 25 07:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    Well said, when you are in the hip pocket of the NAB your cove stories always lack substance! This is one guy who should NOT be reappointed.
    2008 Jul 25 08:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    I agree 100% and he should tender his resignation immediately!!!
    2008 Jul 25 08:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    Morgan Joseph cut SIRI from Buy to Hold pre-market. Who wants to bet they or one of their major clients shorted SIRI big time late yesterday? Should be illegal for these guys to own any stock they comment on.
    2008 Jul 25 08:30 AM | Link | Reply
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    Adelstein should retire and should have enough money to keep himself living a great life now that he got all that kick back money for his vote. If he didn't, he is more of a fool than anyone could ever imagine! Now onto today, several questions:
    1. Will Tate vote today?
    2. How will SIRI react today, will it gain back some losses from yesterday or continue going down?
    3. How and when will the 4.6 share merger work?
    2008 Jul 25 08:35 AM | Link | Reply
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    great article!
    I wonder who is reasponsable for watching these crooks to make sure they arent abuseing there power. Its so ovious there using it to benifit themselves. why isnt anything being done this country is going down the toilet! We need a fing revolution!

    [ED: Comment edited to remove abuse.]
    2008 Jul 25 08:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    Well said Gino, way to state exactly how the public feels, supporter or not!!!!! I hope the FCC subscribes to this site because the Journalists are really right on!!!
    2008 Jul 25 08:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    You start this article out by trying to paint yourself as a neutral observer, but your comments sound just like a lot of the crazy people on the message boards that spit absurdities in numerous threads that go nowhere. How does a la cart pricing cover diversity in programming? Those are unrelated things. And that "translation" is a good example of the unreasonable hatred being spread throughout those same message boards. It's unpalatable to read unless you're another one of the crazed mob that applaudes anybody that writes long articles in favor of their hatred for the FCC.

    I can appreciate that your comments are opinion and don't have to carry any burden for real proof. But really, you could've done better than to pander to a bunch of ticked-off shareholders (all 100 shares they account for). Look deeper and you may see more nefarious activity to report. This article is just a longer, more public version of a message board rant. Take a look at the rest of your comments on this article. Your fans of this article are the same all-caps crowd that posts this junk all day on Yahoo. No real substance. Just a keyboard vomit.
    2008 Jul 25 08:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Right on, Gino. The entire process was a disgrace including Goldman's hatchet people like Morgan Joseph this morning. Those AG's and Senators should be concentrating their efforts on the daily manipulation of stocks and the entire markets. If you can manipulate oil, you can manipulate any stock that trades.
    2008 Jul 25 09:10 AM | Link | Reply
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    Dr. Remulac - You are too funny, thinking we are all so irrational. I wouldn't know where to start on your ridiculous posting, except to say that you have no concept of business if you think freezing prices for 6 years is a good idea. Apply that concept to your pay and see how you can keep up in the real world. Oh and for actual proof you want, compare the memo from Congressman Markey to the demands from Adelstein that took 500 days for him to figure out and you will have your proof that Adelstein is just a puppet for Markey and the NAB, not a FCC commissioner looking after the consumers best interest. Try thinking about the millions of consumers that just don't want 2 separate boxes and 2 separate companies just to be able to get MLB and the NFL. Do you have that with your cable TV?
    2008 Jul 25 09:15 AM | Link | Reply
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    Dr. Remulac, you are correct, I do not have tangible proof of some of the accusations I write about. They are written from a perspective only. When I "Translated" the comments, I was playing on the fact that he did not offer any elaboration about each point of his watered down politically crafted statement. But truthfully, I would like to read your own opinion concerning the actions (or lack thereof) of the FCC in this 18 month process. You seem to be very opinionated in your statement without any substance behind your defense of the FCC.

    PS> I apologize for the typo in the article, it will be corrected soon.
    2008 Jul 25 09:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hey Dr. Remulac(Mr. Addelstein is that you?), you want substance. Ok, here u go. How's this for substance. Goldman Sachs price target post merger $1.75 for Sirius. His report was released exactly one day after FCC Martin agreed to support the deal, or possibly the same day, dont remember exactly. I know its a coincidence, I know. It makes your mind go about your day better if you can just write up all the injustices in the world as coincidences. They time tons of bad news and articles to come out RIGHT after any good news or announcement. Almost like the entire MSM is trying to save us from this terrible investment that NAB has tried with all its power to stop, the only entity on this planet that opinion on Sirius's future potential really matters, there competition. Their competition loves the deal, thinks it would crush them and hurt them, but every analysist in the world thinks differently. NAB can buy off votes on the FCC, but they don't seem to have the wisdom to pay off analysits huh? Ok bro....sure... I know, its a coincidence, I know.
    2008 Jul 25 09:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    Great Article and the comments concerning Adelstein are justifiable. Lets hope that the FCC vote will end up being 3-2 to allow the Sirius and XM merger to proceed.
    2008 Jul 25 09:33 AM | Link | Reply
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    Gino Lattarulo you hit on the head I think he had it planned that way all along - what an idiot. I hope that some calls for an investigation on this whole mess. Well maybe NAB paid him enough so he can buy some better glasses so he doesnt look so stupid
    2008 Jul 25 09:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    Google Dr. Remulac , wow very weird
    2008 Jul 25 09:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    The options are to push the seek button or change channels. People don't have to pay if they don't enjoy the selections. The other thing is you may put hundreds of people out of work, and in this economy that would not be good. FCC please do your job (S--T or get off the pot)
    2008 Jul 25 09:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thank you for your bluntness. Morons and thieves. They are making money at the expense of individual/amateur investors. It all ends up onthe middle classes back in one way or the other. Eventually things equal out but unfortunately at a greater cost to the consumer. They are not interested in the consumer but in padding their pockets for the large company profits. Where is the SEC??? Where are the attorneys. Class action lawsuit???
    2008 Jul 25 10:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    These analist are criminal. Have you seen were Morgan Joseph has now down graded SIRI from buy to hold. In June of 2007 they upgraded it to a buy at around 2.88 a share. Now that the companies will merge they are worth less. Stock manipulation at its best.
    2008 Jul 25 10:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    Dr. Remulac, my "diversity in programing" in relation to ala carte pricing comment was based on the option a customer would have to create their own basket of channels, thereby making them unique and diverse in comparison to others. If this was not the context in which he intended his statement to be interpreted, then he should have clarified. If he was referring to the diversity that would be created by minority channels, 8% of the spectrum would substantially accommodate that. 25% is exorbitant and would severely restrict content growth. But again, where is the clarification? And where is your thought out defense? Until there is an intelligent thought outline to debate with, heated comments are all that I think are worthy to publish.
    2008 Jul 25 10:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    Federal criminal corruption prosecution. That's all I have to say.
    2008 Jul 25 10:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    You know folks, the one point that everyone seems to gloss over is the fact that ultimately one does not HAVE to buy the service. The FCC is acting as if we all MUST have Satellite radio.

    We do not.

    We CHOOSE to pay for it because we appreciate the content and the characteristics of commercial free radio. Stable pricing for 6 years is irrelevant! If they raise the prices too much, people will leave and go back to free radio. Period. The market and consumer will control the deal. This is not Cable TV where for some it is their only choice for content.

    Let's face it, the competitors for Satellite radio are IPOD's, terrestrial radio, and CDs. Heck, my car came with a built in Hard drive onto which I can rip all of my music!

    And the programming diverstiy request is bunk. I believe that almost everyone can find something they like on one of the hundreds of channels. Give me a break! If you cannot find something you like - DON'T BUY IT! It really is that simple. If you go to a store looking for a CD of the opera Carmen, and all they have is Rap, Rock, Punk, anc Country, you don't buy one of those genre's... you leave!

    The bottom line here is that the consumer will drive the market dynamics of the company post merger. The NAB is scared, otherwise why whould they have spent so much money trying to squash this deal.

    The political pandering bribery that has gone on behind the scenes (and not so behind the scenes) has been despicable. This has truly been a shining example of how our system is broken and corrupt.

    2008 Jul 25 10:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    Gino Lattarula, I have to say I thought Dr. Remulac had a good comment, and that your rebut was nice. I to was wondering how those to came together, but you explained it well, thanks. He still makes a good point, about the you not being neutral. Come on, you being neutral on this is like me being neutral on this.

    Dr. Remulac, The reason there are such comments on these boards is simple and something you would have not seen, if the FCC and the DOJ would have done there jobs better by stoped playing to the political pressures that were there and are still there. this decision should not have taken this long. I for one, would have been fine if both would have said no, 9 or 10 months ago. For the DOJ to have come to the decision they did shows that that decision should have come way sooner then it did. As for the FCC I will not even get into that one. But investors have a right to be pissed at these to departments, I have a feeling though that once a decision is reached that is favorable to the companies then most will drop it just has they did with the DOJ which in my mind still did a terrable job.
    2008 Jul 25 11:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Is there any way to bring what these people to the attention of someone that could do something about it? They clearly get paid off and it's disgusting that no one with the same level of power or higher does anything about it. They are all Crooks
    2008 Jul 25 11:48 AM | Link | Reply
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    Let's get this deal done and move on with the lawsuits and investigations. Most of the U.S. Government is corrupt in one way or another. This has come by adjusting the original constitution as was needed and adding departments and commisions as times may have required. It is now time to correct the corrections. Go back to step one and rewrite to todays standards. Make government officials responsible for their actions and and not let unqualified, corrupt officials remain in power. Do a time study as to what is being done with tax money and have time restraints to decision making. At this time we can go to war overnight, but making a simple decision about radio takes a year and a half.
    France, (I know..It's France) just approved rewritting their constitution to bring it up to date. Why in this modern world do we have to have people with their hands in someone elses pockets making decisions for taxpayers? Enter all the data into a computer and let it spit out some answers that at least have some logic behind them. As much time as this is taking, it could have been voted on by the public. We would have had less forked tounge debates from Sat Radio and Terres Radio then we have from those seeking a vote this November. The Boston Tea Party was a wakeup call. What do we need now? Common Sense would be a great start.
    2008 Jul 25 11:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    I couldn't care less about Adelstein, this stock is a disaster. Another downgrade today. Nobody thinks these are worth anything except for a bunch of small-time investors grasping at straw.

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    2008 Jul 25 12:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    bradley010a, I thought you may need a up lifting story this from Sirius Buzz. I thought most seen this already, but you must have missed it.

    Merrill Lynch analyst Jessica Reif Cohen issued a report today on Sirius and is bullish about the sector. Cohen, a media analyst is highly respected in the field, and likely offers insight from a media perspective. Of note, in the late 90’s, Cohen once called a stock price of $50 for CBS when it was trading at $18. One year later CBS surpassed the $50 mark.

    Cohen sees the OEM channel as a growth story for SDARS and states in her report, “satellite radio is well on its way to becoming standard in new auto production.” She projects that installations will climb to 50% in calendar 2008 and to 85% by 2013, thereby yielding double digit growth despite plummeting OEM sales. Cohen notes that while sales of cars will be down in the neighborhood of 14% in the next couple of years, that a 66% growth in installations will still be a NET positive for SDARS.

    Cohen maintains a BUY rating on Sirius and is raising the P.O. to $4.50 from $2.70.

    Catch SiriusBuzz Radio Live On Thursdays at 9:00 PM EST

    Tyler Savery Position - Long Sirius, XM
    2008 Jul 25 01:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    It really is frustrating that upgrades have absolutely no impact and downgrades accelerate the stocks decline. This wasn't even a terrible downgrade...it was to hold from buy...wasn't a sell rating like GS. How low will we go? Back to 1.85? Is there ANYTHING that can move these stocks higher?
    2008 Jul 25 01:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for the uplifting story. I saw it yesterday and it certainly didn't uplift the stock price. The "street" didn't care about Cohen.

    Mudslinger is right, positive comments have no impact, whereas negative comments devastate the stock price. Once again my assertion is:

    There is no faith in these companies by anyone other than a bunch of small-time investors.
    2008 Jul 25 01:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    Last of my rants before I'm out of here. I'm not a consipiracy theorist, but I'm starting to become a conspiracy theorist. I wouldn't be surprised if these two analysts were working together on this. Positive comments one day to try to lift the stock, every one take your short position, negative comments the next day, every one take your profits.
    I'd like to start throwing blows at this point!
    2008 Jul 25 01:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    Poor, poor SIRI investors. You only care because you're losing money, so stop whining that it's about injustice or government immorality or whatever you're hiding behind. If a corrupt FCC did something that caused the stock to steadily climb, you wouldn't be crying.

    Injustice? Outrage at government abuses or games? Here are two ideas, there are plenty more: How about putting that energy into protecting soldiers who are effectively abandoned by our government when come back from Iraq and can't get proper health care or financial support for their sacrifices. Or fighting credit card companies that, due to loosening of govt regulations, charge default interest rates that were once considered usury; government collusion with industry to tap your phones. Those are real problems that affect real people, not just SIRI investors.

    Stop whining. It's the stock market. Things happen. Deal with it or buy mutual funds or something instead.
    2008 Jul 25 01:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    He should find another job that requires less common sense.
    2008 Jul 25 02:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    bradley010a, I am literally chuckling out loud as I write this. You know, I got a bit lucky and sold one lot of SIRI only a penny or so on the wrong side of the recent pop. That was profit. However, due to other SIRI purchases, I'm either still down or just barely even on the stock. It doesn't get me so angry that I curse and stamp my feet. IT'S THE STOCK MARKET. I took a chance. I may get hosed. The stock market isn't all supply/demand or technical analysis or trends -- It's about any and all forces at play in society, including potentially corrupt government and the fact that those with access to the media have immense power. You're very angry. If you're playing money you can't afford to lose, that's the problem. If you can't stomach the risk, that's the problem. If you can't accept the things that *really* drive the stock market, that's the problem, so put your money in professionally manage mutual funds.
    2008 Jul 25 02:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    Geez, ok, I'm getting off this board. bradley010a, I apologize. Maybe you really are suffering financially over all this bs, in which case my philosophical, smarmy posts don't help you. I am genuinely offended when people hide their greed behind some kind of morality, but I also understand some people are genuinely being hurt by how SIRI has perormed, and I understand some people are genuinely outraged by the FCC, not just because of the stock issue.
    2008 Jul 25 02:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    And I was trying to be nice (albeit with immense condescension). Now I'm just back to laughing at you.

    I have enough spine to know that whining a crying "but mommy, it's not fair" on a forum is meaningless.

    Where's your spine, bradley010a? Please tell us about the congresspeople you wrote to, and how you persistently followed-up until you got a real response instead of a form letter; or about the demonstrations or petitions you organized and delivered; Or other real, concrete actions you've taken to display this prized spine of yours.

    You made your point in an earlier post (here are your exact words):

    "I whine about those things on other blogs. I can whine all I want about Sirius on this Sirius blog."

    Is *that* what a spine is about? Anonymously whining?
    2008 Jul 25 02:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    I would hardly call SIRI getting up to 2.75 a real pop. I think everyone was looking at it getting to at least 3 - 3.50. Its a shame but the smaller investors either don't know how to play the game or don't have enough money to change or influence the game. Hopefully, next week some time, we will see a real bounce up, cash out, and leave this all to the nuts in the FCC, NAB, and the big time investors.
    2008 Jul 25 02:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    Larry Crow, those are real issues and no one is taking away from that, but those are completely different issues addressed in and on different mediums. Also, those problems are complex, this is not and the fact the goverment, FCC, NAB are corrupting something so simple in these bad economic times with the above issues you mentioned, makes people almost violent. I have become so angry and distrustful to anything the gov't does now? I for one will never again invest in an emerging company competing against another with market dominance and govt/politcal ties no matter how revolutionary their product is. How willing are any of us to invest in anything the gov't tries to regulate now?
    This is an issue that effects not only shareholders, but could be a bad indicator of how things in gov't are run for the future. If the gov't abuses their power to keep out competitors with greater technology, quality, efficiency, new technologies, and innovation, to protect one company's market dominance we step closer to a socialist state or dare I say, dictatorship. All innovation and motivation for better products are stalled because nothing will be worth the effort to pursue. If revolutionary products introduced to the market are killed because of gov't incompetence or corruption after all the hard work, sacrifice, investment, and innovation because they threaten 5% of a complacent company's market dominance, we will be in a truly troubled America. The socialist state or dictatorship may be a dramatic example, but we would only move closer in that direction.

    You are right about the other larger issues, but this is not the forum for that. If the gov't can not handle a small issue like this one, be it incompetence or corruption, how can it even begin to tackle the major issues? I ask this on all the blogs, "Can anyone truly have a monopoly on audio entertainment?"
    2008 Jul 25 02:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    Guys, I apologize for the long rant. This merger has made me go mental. I am so frustrated at this point. Is there seriously anything we can do. I am willing to spend a couple thousand dollars to get this investigated by an attorney, we can investigate Adelstein, Copps for corruption or stall tactics. How about suing/investigating on the charge of inability to do the job, thus causing millions of losses to the companies and also to the investors. If we all pull together maybe we could at least get them fired.
    2008 Jul 25 02:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hair pie, first I have to say, I laugh every time I type that name. I dont think it is because of any analyst people with alot of the stock because it has always been this low are playing games and making money with it. I know even I do, and cos1000 does. Although we only play the channel with much less shares we still play with it. So it is common sense, that people that have, I dont know 250,000 + shares, do the same thing in other ways. I will say, first of all that both cos1000 and I only do it with a small % of our total shares and keep most of them for the long haul. Even I have my limit though and you have seen what I think the price should be and if it were to go up to 5 to 8 I would start to sell even those shares, because as you know I dont think it is worth that much Yet. I have to say these wild changes dont bother me so much because I am in for the long run. What I care about is these companies getting past this merger. To get the ball and chain removed so they can get back to the business of real big growth. I say real big growth, because look at how well they have done and that has been with their hands tied. think about it this way, SIRI alone was able to get over 2 million net subscribers in a year. All those while they have not been able to really advertise or put a new product out, not to mention the confusion that this merger caused which I believe has cuase at least some to not subscribe.
    2008 Jul 25 02:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    RReagan -- It was a pop for me, whatever the reason. I bought my last lot not too long ago and sold with a nice profit (but, it's just barely offsetting my losses on previous purchases).

    jmb476 -- Yeah, you're right about alot. But, I disagree with the evils of govt regulation -- Enron, banking and credit card abuses, airline failures, etc. -- I'm old enough to remember when these were properly regulated industries. They made their profits, and consumers weren't abused too badly. And about the loses of small investors -- Look at how long it took to help small mortgage holders, and that's a national crisis. Will anyone in power really pay attention to the abused SIRI investor?
    2008 Jul 25 03:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    Larry Crow, As I said before the problem that investors have had, is not that they are looking for the FCC to up lift the stock. That would have happen anyway. The problem is they are holding it back, because I believe both would have been much higher even if the FCC said NO to the merger. If they did there job and had given a decision along time ago. I do think it should have taken a long time, but this is getting ridiculous. The proof is in what the decisions and the concessions have been, but we can talk about that latter. Also as to why it should have taken a long time but not this long.
    2008 Jul 25 03:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    Poor little spiney. *His* spine is so big he needs to dream of physically abusing a woman.
    2008 Jul 25 03:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    Larry Crow, I agree there are industries that need a fair (I do stress the word fair) amount of gov't regulation, but siri/xm are definitely not it. I dont think anyone in power will pay attention to the siri/xm shareholder. They do not need to. The ones in control holding this thing hostage only need to do the right thing. Is that too much to ask. They were appointed to their jobs to do the right thing. Does it really take over 4 months after the DOJ investigated for a year and came to their conclusion to determine whether or not this merger would create a monopoly? I dont think so. Gov't regulation in the credit markets is needed, there need to be stricter rules before these company's are allowed to get themselves into so much trouble and before they collapse sending the economy into a tailspin. Do you really feel the mediums that audio entertainment is delivered needs gov't regulation. Right now, gov't regulation/investigati... and special interests are keeping 2 revenue losing companies from becoming successful or competitive in the market. You said it before, there are definitely more pressing issues. Finally, why is the FCC so hellbent on trying to keep a monopoly from happenning? No one can predict the future. I say let the companies merge and if they become this evil monoploy sucking all $ out of consumers, then break them apart or regulate them. The FCC is definitely not good at reviewing things that are in the present or things that the DOJ has already concluded. Why would they be good at predicting the future?
    2008 Jul 25 03:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    RReagan, here is somethings that I think you should think about. First every time it gos down people buy back not just the people that play the stock but people that are just starting to get in. Everytime that happens, a small % of the shares gos into those small investors hands that are looking to hold for longer then a few hours, days, and weeks or months. Just an opinion, and speculation. My common sense tells me that this satellite radio sector is going to make investors happy in the long run. Just wait till after this ball and chain (the merger process) is taken off. I think you are going to say to yourself why the hell did I sell this stock, 2 years from now.
    2008 Jul 25 04:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Dr. Remulac...after reading your post I need to ask what kind of a Doctor you are? are you a Medical Doctor? or a Title obtained as a Doctorate in something else?
    Let me guess...A podiatrist Doctor!!!!!
    2008 Jul 25 04:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    HE IS MORE LIKE DR SEUSS
    2008 Jul 25 05:40 PM | Link | Reply
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    I hate to say it, but Wanker at GS looks like he was almost exactly correct with his numbers.
    2008 Jul 25 05:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888 Wow! What a day of nothing happening, and again the stocks seek equilibrium. XM and Sirius stocks are only to be played here if your playing with a small percentage of your overall investment as you noted above, as we both do. Today and until the "Merger Decision" is final, I'm not selling or buying a thing because I believe these stocks are being played by folks with much more money and in more contra-indicative ways than I can understand. I'm comfortable with my long positions on both stocks and am sitting on the sidelines waiting for a decision. I think things will be much better when the "Arbitrage Play" is over with. Being able to only invest in Siri and it's merits will make a big difference in the direction and consistency upward of the stock's price. Not a big pop, but a steady staircase to $4.00 until we can get the street marching to the same tune and the NAB out of the discussion. We need a quarter beyond the "Merge" and some innovative products to truly move the 200 day MA in a positive direction. I'll feel much better when that technical indicator is working in our favor. I am looking forward to being able to talk about all the possibilities when the "Deal is Done".

    Hair Pie, I agree with 163888 that your name is tough to type without LOL. More seriously though, you have picked a great product company to subscribe to, but a painful company to invest in for your first stock investment choice. I do think that if you can afford to sit back and observe all the extraneous factors that are affecting your company's stock price, watch the company not these factors as it executes it's business plan, and ignore all those who protest to much of this company's demise, you will be happy with the result in 12 - 18 months. (at times, sooner) If all you want to do is try and play this company's stock price on a daily or weekly basis, spare yourself the misery. Look at the postings on this board by folks who have invested money for a long time to see what I'm talking about.
    2008 Jul 25 06:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    Cos1000, I was talking about the screwing around we were doing before with the channel, and I have to admit as you know I was a little pissed, I forgot to take that 2.50 order out and it went through so I bought it back at 2.25. I well hold that til 3. I did not mean to speak for you... but wait, yea I did. Remember I said it would not go up as fast as people thought it would. That it may not only take days but weeks and we have not even got the god dam thing approved yet. Also Remember when I was argueing with people that there wont be a short sqeeze. As you will recall one of the main reasons is. I did not want to get peoples hopes up, then when it does not happen they get pissed and sell, well from looking at various boards that is whats happening. So in the end you and I know the people that keep a cool head will walk away happy. As you know I still keep my 3.8 to 4.1 that I had when it was channeling between 2.4 and 3, three or four months ago when I was arguing that there would be no short sqeeze. I do think you are right and we may need to wait till the dust settles before we get there though. We almost may have to churn out the old SIRI investor group for a new batch. As for you and I and others that have been in this sector for the last about 7 years, whats another 7.
    2008 Jul 25 07:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, I agree with the no short squeeze, with your comments when we were in the 2.40 - 3.0 channel, the dust needing to settle, and what's another 7 years to make, LOL. As for your speaking for me, I am flattered. I have to admit I under estimated the lack of longs / investors in this stock. If they aren't making money every day, they just get pissed. Unfortunately I also think your right about clearing the decks with the short term investors. I think $1.86 brought a lot of them in and now we're seeing them get impatient and getting out. I guess I should of realized that when we stopped talking about fundamentals, ie, SAC, ARPU and Penetration Rates and started talking about when are we going to get the pop and make some money that most folks weren't here for the long term. Not all but sum. For the record I am as frustrated with the regulatory process as anyone, but that is what it takes to get these companies where they need to be. Yeah the FCC and DOJ took to long because of all the "Politics", define that anyway you want, we've heard it all, but in the end the company I own, Sirius, run by Mel and the boys, are going to make us money.
    2008 Jul 25 08:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, I absolutely agree.

    Just for a laugh!

    You know what I keep thinking and I can't help but laugh when I do is, after this is done and in 6 months when all is settled down. I just keep picturing Mel standing at the head of a table and slapping his hands together (once) and saying OK now that that is done, I have an idea we should merge with????? Dont get me wrong, I would *NOT* personally be in favor of it. Something about getting 1 share of that company for 50 of SIRI bugs me, especially when I think the value of SIRI will go up faster then if I had that company. I just cant help but remember what he did before and as fast as he did it. Plus the vision of that just cracks me up everytime. I imagine How the other people in the room are looking at each other, with eyes poping out of their sockets, hands going over their faces as they slam their heads to the table crying. I dont know, I have a good imagination so it may not be that funny to others, but I laugh every time.
    2008 Jul 25 08:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    Well that part is done, (the nightmare). Now for the amazing growth we will see.
    2008 Jul 25 09:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, I think that's what makes Mel such a great entrepreneur. You just never know how he is going to play his hand, but you do know he will play it. There's no getting complacent on his team thinking that you've finally gotten there. It should be fun to watch and prosper from, but who knows? What am I saying, Mel will know.
    2008 Jul 25 09:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, Now we can talk.
    2008 Jul 25 09:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    From SiriusBuzz.com: On a Friday just like Brandon suspected.

    The long awaited conclusion of regulatory purgatory that began on February 19, 2007 for Sirius, XM and their shareholders is over. The merger was officially approved when the consent decree was signed moments ago. As advertised, the commission vote fell along party lines with a 3 - 2 split decision.
    2008 Jul 25 09:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    Congratulations, everyone, we have arrived!!!
    2008 Jul 25 09:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, The timing of it all, uncanny.
    2008 Jul 25 09:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    Holy crap, people have no idea, just how big that spectrum is. Terrestrial radio will never be the same. Thats why they fought to keep this from coming, thats why it took so long for the FCC. They knew full well, just how big this is going to be, they did not want to be the ones that turned terrestrial into what it will end up being. That spectrum is bigger then all the other stations combined think about it this way it took CCU 20 years to get were they are today which is about 750 stations. That only covers not even a tenth of the area that satellite radio covers. Does that tell you how big this really is. God help terresrial if they ever get slapped into paying royalties. My god we have just seen the begining here. Canada has just started to pick up.This thing is going to be almost as big as DISH and DTV.
    2008 Jul 25 09:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, Yea I asked him if I was going to have anymore kids and if so, then would it be a boy or a girl.

    I thought you knew that is why I said: The nightmare was over now we can get to the real growth, sorry.
    2008 Jul 25 09:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    One can only hope. The one caveat is the FCC said it will open another case to review HD for inclusion. If it takes them as long to that as this, the game will be over before HD can ever start. I can't wait to hear from the companies. I figure there at the court filing their papers consummating the deal as done.
    2008 Jul 25 09:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    No I didn't, I was to busy writing to you. I had been checking earlier about every five minutes or so, but that got old fast. It was only fitting that we were exchanging ideas when the news hit. Congratulations.
    2008 Jul 25 09:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, That HD thing will go nowhere, trust me. How are they going to inforce it. With open access it takes HD totally out. Plus how can the FCC tell the OEMs they have to do anything.
    2008 Jul 25 09:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    god my speling sucks, enforce not inforce, then again who cares.
    2008 Jul 25 09:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    Got to go, wife and I are going out, talk to you tomarrow.
    2008 Jul 25 10:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    Cos1000,163888, and Tyler Savery..............Co... Your hard work has come to fruition. Thank you all very much! The Big Blue Dog is taking a well deserved nap.
    2008 Jul 25 10:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    THE VOTE IS IN 3-2 FOR THE MERGER
    2008 Jul 25 11:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    The question many of us are contemplating: Pop or Drop on Monday?
    2008 Jul 26 12:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    Freep: Pop or drop?

    Depends on how fast the first lawsuits are filed, probably 9am Monday.

    The roller coaster hasn't returned to the station just yet...
    2008 Jul 26 01:39 AM | Link | Reply
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    Guys, the short term is not important, I know you think you have waited a long time already. But I am telling you this is going to be so big I think that a mere 15,000 to 20,000 shares if held onto for the next 3 to 4 years will be enough for many to retire.


    First lets go over the concessions.

    1.)Turning 24 channels over to non-commercial and minority programming.

    I know many think this to be the worst of them. I actually think it is one of the best. The reason is simple, from what I have read and understand SIRI and XMSR both already have most of the channels that comply with this. So one of two things happen both are not so bad. One is SIRI/XMSR do not have to give a full 24 channels up anyway. The second one, is the better of the two though. Because they already have many of these channels they can stop carrying them and let the Public Knowledge and minorities pick up the cost for the content. The best part is that as I understand, The enities dont pay anything for the lease but have to pay for their own content, and people still have to subscribe to get them. So in the end while the quality will go down on those channels, because of the need for more commercials to pay for the content will go up. It will actually save SIRI/XMSR money that they would have had to pay for at least 12 out of the 24 channels (that is being conservative).


    2.)Three year price freeze

    This is not so bad ether. Lets face it, if Mel could afford to keep the prices down he would he knows there is only so much the masses are willing to pay for radio. That is why I believe this is not even really a concession. They would do this anyway if they could.


    3.)Open Access

    Who here, would really think this is even a big deal at all anyway. I dont know if most know this, but manufactures are not breaking down SIRI/XMSR doors to build satellite radios. Even if they were, I am sure Mel is going to make dam sure, it is at the very least not harmful to satellite radio. As proof look at the concessions he was able to get.


    4.) A-La-Carte pricing available within 3 months of deal closure.

    I posted on this before this is what I said about that:

    Here is a thought, How many subscribers do you think hold both SIRI and XMSR right now, and are paying the 25.9 each month for both. I have to say, I think the percentage is very very low. Now how many subscribers do you think that have had all the content that they have been exposed to from ether SIRI or XMSR would go down to the 6.99 subscribtion that really only offers music channels. I think that percentage is very very low, as a matter of fact if they would go for that package then chances are there is a big percentage of those that would have (churned out) left anyway. Now how many people that pay 12.95 a month to get one would not mind paying 2 or 4 dollars more to get the SIRI/XMSR you have now plus the best 13 channels from the other. IMO, The al la cart will not only lower churn, but may actually bring up the ARPU. Give them a year and then you will have another price point that will offer, access to both full services, for some higher price.

    Here is an example I think we all can agree with: How much did you start paying for your cable/satellite tv when you first got it. Now how much are you paying. I would be willing to bet most have upgraded to the extra package and are now paying more then they did when they first started it.

    All I am saying is when you here analyst say the al la cart is going to bring ARPU way down think about what happen to your cable/satellite tv bill. Just a piece of common sense. I also believe Mel Karmazin has thought about it to.


    5.) have to have a interoperable radio in 9 months.

    Ho no, you mean that they are going to have to put out a radio, that when it comes out, (the sooner the better) will start the big savings and profits for the companies.


    6.) Have to provide service to Puerto Rico.

    I think that one speaks for its self, if you ask me. Sure there are cost to the towers but in a population of over 3 million plus it being a tourist spot. I think they will be able to find enough people and hotels that are able to afford a satellite radio subscription, to more then pay for the towers.


    So there you have it, there they are, all the big bad concessions. Maybe someone can tell me, where are they all that bad, because I just dont see the big down side.

    These concessions are one reason, I would get so pissed at people that put Mel Karmazin down. That he was not worth the pay cut he took to come to SIRI.


    Next I was rushed the last time I started to write about just how big this is going to be. Now I am just tired. So I will make another quick reason, why I think this is going to be big. Mel did not take a pay cut and come to a smaller company to just sit back and bide his time til retirement (he is not like me LOL). He could have done that anywhere and made more money to boot. I beilieve he came to SIRI with this merger already planned. He is by far no fool, and he could see the slow death of terrestrial radio coming. I believe he came to SIRI to become a even bigger legend then he already was. He in one fail swoop has control of more spectrum then all the terrestrial radio stations combined. He will be running a media giant almost over night. When you consider how long it took all the other terrestrial radio companies to become as big as they are today. He knows that if internet radio does ever become a real business that SIRI/XMSR will be the best posittioned to take advantage of it. The biggest reason is simple internet has to do something that terrestrial doesn't pay royalties. You think terrestrial has alot of commercials just imagine how many they would have, if they had to pay for royalties on top of everything else. the same problem will be there for the internet radio companies. They will have to start to go to a subscribtion base business model. Well SIRI/XMSR are going to have a hugh jump on them. Think of how much it cost SIRI/XMSR to start up in the beginning. I will just say it is not going to be easy when SIRI/XMSR are the 300 lb gorilla, which already has alot of the people that are willing to pay for radio. The well is going to be shallow by the time internet can even become a viable player. Just some common sense with some speculation tossed in.

    Got to get some sleep. Talk to you later.








    2008 Jul 26 04:24 AM | Link | Reply
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    I am very concerned that even after the merger the stock will be worth very little.
    2008 Jul 26 08:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Pop or Drop?

    Not that I think what happens to the stock is all that important in the next two weeks, but I know a lot of folks do. The stock can only move up. Why would you dump shares now? That happened last week. A little patience even in the short run will get us to 2.90- 3.10, an old technical channel (4 -6 months ago). Then the company will let out the PR dogs, "Retaliate Against" legal issues (because now they can), give meaningful future guidance, introduce new products and details on what you'll be able to do with existing equipment, and report good third quarter retail results because of all the pent up demand. The fourth quarter will be all about "Inter-Operable" Radios and "Where can I get One?".

    Pop or Drop? Where do you think this stock will be on December 31, 2008, 2009 ??
    2008 Jul 26 10:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Personally, I firmly believe this will be a $20+ stock within 5 years. Content is king, and content is what Sirius is all about; therefore, Sirius will be king!
    2008 Jul 26 01:47 PM | Link | Reply