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The long-awaited conclusion of regulatory purgatory that began on February 19, 2007 for Sirius (SIRI), XM (XMSR) and their shareholders is over. The merger was officially approved when the consent decree was signed overnight. As advertised, the commission vote fell along party lines with a 3 - 2 split decision.

The definitive agreement indicates that the companies will be combined in a tax-free, all-stock merger of equals. Terms of the deal call for XM shareholders to receive 4.6 shares of Sirius common stock for each XM share held. The transaction is structured as a merger of equals, with Sirius and XM shareholders each owning 50 percent of the combined company.

In a victory for consumers, the content of Sirius and XM will be joined and in most cases will cost less with a la carte packaging, a revolutionary idea that allows Sirius and XM listeners to pick and choose the package that best suits their needs. The voluntary concessions include:

  • Turning 24 channels over to non-commercial and minority programming.
  • Three year price freeze
  • Open Access
  • A-La-Carte pricing available within 3 months of deal closure

Concessions agreed to as part of the enforcement issues included requirements that the companies:

  • adopt comprehensive compliance plans, and take steps to address any potentially non-compliant radios remaining in the hands of consumers;
  • in the case of XM, within 60 days of the order adopting the Consent Decree, shut down 50 variant terrestrial repeaters, and shut down or bring into compliance an additional 50 variant terrestrial repeaters;
  • in the case of Sirius, bring into compliance or shut down up to 11 variant terrestrial repeaters within 60 days of the order adopting the Consent Decree. These terrestrial repeaters were shut off by Sirius in October 2006 ; and
  • make a voluntary contributions to the United States Treasury of approximately $17 million in the case of XM, and approximately $2 million in the case of Sirius.

The FCC will open a new case to look more closely at HD inclusion. Additional concessions were not released at this time.

[ Via AP & Reuters ]

Sirius closed Friday at $2.25 per share (-7.02%) on July 25, and XMSR closed at $9.28 per share (-4.35%). After hours, SIRI was slightly up, to $2.29; XMSR dropped another three cents, to $9.25.

Disclosure: Long Sirius, XM.

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    this stock is going to be sky rocketted on Monday? can we expect $4??
    2008 Jul 26 06:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler, thank you for your professional coverage of this stock. Your opinion and analysis is, and has been, very much appreciated during this ordeal. I look forward to your thoughts as we, and this new company, move forward.
    2008 Jul 26 07:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    I doubt it will sky rocket, after the merger was announced there was no pop in after hours trading. I could see Sirius actually dropping on Monday.
    2008 Jul 26 07:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Merger was not completed & announced until 10 P.M. EST . Where do you trade at that time ???
    2008 Jul 26 07:25 AM | Link | Reply
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    now the fun starts
    2008 Jul 26 07:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    screamer i agree with you,

    Tyler, thank you for your professional coverage of this stock.

    dylan how could the stock go anywhere when the market was closed and it was announced after hours?
    2008 Jul 26 07:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    It makes little sense for the shares to NOT climb on Monday, wouldn't you say? XM holders are currently seeing $10/share price, which we all know is down considerably. Even with 4.6 shares being delivered to XM holders, do you think they'll want to hold 4.6 shares at, say, $1.85 each? It would still be undervalued compared to the current XM market price. It makes sense to me for the bid to increase by a significant margin on Monday or Tuesday as the deal becomes a stark reality. This might be wishful thinking, but those who have witnessed such huge drops in price might be ready to see their long-awaited investments surge. Thoughts?
    2008 Jul 26 07:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    Additionally, I think the drop in price was mostly due to the "nay-sayers" who really believed that this would hit a roadblock in the end. I think the vast volume of shareholders of both companies REALLY believe in the short and long-term merits of this deal. I doubt either XM or Sirius want to see the price continue to drop. I feel neither have anything to prove and now Wall Street psychology can begin to take over.
    2008 Jul 26 07:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    At risk of inundating you with my comments (grin): Keep in mind that Sirius has moved from buy to near strong-buy in recent days. I think new investors will really want this stock. Let us all pray. :-)
    2008 Jul 26 07:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    If we don't get forward-looking PR from SIRI this weekend, this stock will be judged and scrutinized only on it's fundamentals. If that's the case, don't look for a jump on Monday.
    2008 Jul 26 08:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Good point, screamer. However, as I mentioned, SIRI owes its shareholders (in a sense, to a degree) such forward-looking info for their endless waiting and support. This merger, yes, maintains the ability to save both struggling entities in the long-term. Remember, though, they've had 493 days to prepare for the eventuality of this merger and if positive forward-looking PR did not exist and they were merely waiting on revenue (etc) to bolster share value, they run the risk of a sell-off by disgruntled shareholders who feel they simply wasted their time by holding SIRI. I say, "SIRI, gimme some PR".
    2008 Jul 26 08:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Mel will now be unfettered to release his positive outlook. You can bet that every bit of positive business news over the past fourteen months has been suppressed to prevent the two no votes (and the NAB) from using it against us.
    2008 Jul 26 08:35 AM | Link | Reply
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    Absolutely agree exp. As vanga said "they've had 493 days to prepare for the eventuality of this merger."

    These guys know what they're doing.
    2008 Jul 26 08:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    Screamer added: "These guys know what they're doing".

    When and where do you think Mel's (et al) "unfettered" info will be discussed? lol. Fox Business is paid programming after 10am, their websites are littered with archaic news info, etc. Do we have to wait until the "countdown to the opening bell" on Monday?
    2008 Jul 26 08:45 AM | Link | Reply
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    It doesn't need to be discussed, only released through PR's. Letting the world know "where it's going" instead of "where it's at now" will be very powerful... especially if it's this weekend.
    2008 Jul 26 08:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    for the great job you do tyler thank you

    to all of the nay sayers f you

    i just heard a song on sirius by the greatful dead that is timely. the verse goes

    "what a strange long journey its been"

    run blue dog run
    2008 Jul 26 08:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hallelujah. If these guys know what they're doing, the attorneys are busy working today and this deal will close today. Don't let the NAB do anything come Monday morning.
    2008 Jul 26 09:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    FYI - SIRI annouces earnings on Monday, 7/28, which is going to make Monday a very interesting day for all concerned.

    2008 Jul 26 09:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    Question, with the merger announced now, will XM still have the ticker or will they open on Monday with just SIRI and XM shareholders getting 4.6 of friday's close?
    2008 Jul 26 09:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thank you, Just_a, it CERTAINLY will. Timing appears to be everything. I am definitely on the edge of my seat.
    2008 Jul 26 09:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    Just-a, where did you hear about earninings release? There is nothing on Sirius investor relations. I can't find any news reports. Thanks.

    PS This stock is like to drive me nuts, I can't figure to save my life what will happen come Monday morn.
    2008 Jul 26 09:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    I would like to thank Tyler Savery, Cos1000, and last, but not least,163888............. for keeping all of us as accurately informed as we could have been........... on this long, lonely, epic journey... through the wasteland of this corrupt merger. Without your wise leadership, and reassurances along the way, we would have surely been lost. Your friend and comrade in arms.....................
    2008 Jul 26 09:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    www.broadcastingcable.... . . . "The National Association of Broadcasters, which strongly opposed the merger, said it was "considering all options," which included going to court to try to block the deal."

    They must close this deal today!
    2008 Jul 26 09:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    Ron1, why is today a deadline?
    2008 Jul 26 10:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Ron1 , nevermind, I misread your post.
    2008 Jul 26 10:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    I wouldn't expect much in the way of forward looking statements from Mel at this time. I believe that they will wait and pick the most opportune time to promote the prospects of this long awaited merger. I like many would like to see the stock pop, but we need to suck it up once again and sit tight. There will be plenty of opportunities for this combined entity to make money, because it is a dam good product and terrestrial radio is not doing for us. Its success relies on many factors and Mel and company have had 493 days to mull over this and set their game plan. Personally my take is that the sports package is going to drive subscriptions thru the roof. Isn't the initial pricing going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 6.95 for 50 stations and $.25 per additional channel? What is the price for a pack of cigarettes? I feel that down the road, however not near term, there will be an influx of monies from a large corporate entity. We all know how they can throw the coin around? It's still going to be a gut check due to terrestrial radio last ditch efforts, but the storm has past and they just need to be patient and stick to their game plan (whatever it is).

    I did not stick it out this long to sell. After, I make my targeted return than I will most likely sell, but possibly not. I will have to view it than just like any other stock.

    It's been a while since I was able to reply to a "Blog" and not use words such as "f*cking". It's nice again.
    2008 Jul 26 10:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, Run Blue Dog Runnnnnnn! Now its time for a little food, some libation, a short rest and back to the track!!

    Pop or Drop on Monday?

    Not that I think what happens to the stock is all that important in the next two weeks, but I know a lot of folks do. The stock can only move up. Why would you dump shares now? That happened last week. A little patience even in the short run will get us to 2.90- 3.10, an old technical channel (4 -6 months ago). Then the company will let out the PR dogs, retaliate against legal issues (because now they can), give meaningful future guidance, introduce new products and details on what you'll be able to do with existing equipment, and report good third quarter "retail" results because of all the pent up demand. The fourth quarter will be all about Inter-Operable Radios and "Where can I get One?". I would not be surprised to see 4.65 - 5.25 by the end of the year. For those wanting to get out you'll probably get 3.72 -3.90 (roughly 2 x the 1
    1.86 - 1.95 low recently set) in mid November. Just my opinion, patience here will be nicely rewarded. For those who have been in for a long time you don't need anyone to tell you that now is not the time to be Weak-In-The Knees.

    Pop or Drop? Where do you think this stock will be on December 31, 2008, 2009 ??
    2008 Jul 26 10:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    This is all about just $5billion merger, it was title news in CNN last night. I would expect a huge run on Monday. Republicans rocks!!
    2008 Jul 26 10:26 AM | Link | Reply
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    Ron01 - I am seeing the earnings annoucement through my Ameritrade account. Sorry if it is a false alarm... I have experienced the same thing. With this stock, it hard to tell who is telling the truth.
    2008 Jul 26 10:30 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler I forgot to include my thanks as well. Great job by you and others such as Eric Savitz and Gino Lattarulo AT Seeking Alpha. It's been a gut wrenching experience. I would only like to see the all the people be held legally and ethically accountable for the wide spectrum of "LOSS" that they caused. I'm including Adelstein, Copps, Congrssmen (such as Markey from Mass.), Senators (like John Kerry (Mass) and Sam Brownback (Kansas)), and Attorney Generals (like Marc Dann and the leach Chester Davenport and lastly the NAB (all the spokespeople). Can someone at Seeking Alpha write an article on this which would time table their unrealistic positioning? It would be great to see a COLABORATIVE effort between you and others at Seeking Alpha author such a masterpiece. I would love to see them squirm. THANKS AGAIN.
    2008 Jul 26 10:32 AM | Link | Reply
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    Cos, I basically agree with you, $5 sticks in my mind for EOY. Auto units should recover by then. Autos may all be hybrids by next year, but that could even accelerate new car sales. I think opening up manufacturing to everyone will greatly accelerate interoperable radios at reduced prices and no needed subsidies from Sirius.

    It seems we should be at 2.60 Monday at a minimum. If the transaction is consummated this weekend, I think the price is even higher, over $3.00 is my best guess.
    2008 Jul 26 10:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    Wow! I still feel like I am running a 100 meter dash race deep in mud.The song has ended but the melody lingers on...an old song but how true in this situation. Why is the market behaving as it did on Friday inspite of the certainty that the merger will be approved? This insane cycle will drive me into a nuthouse. Some brokers see $6 a share, others see a drop in price. That whole MARKET ECONOMY is driven by speculators who have their accomplices in the various arms of the government. God help us.
    2008 Jul 26 10:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    Just_a, hope your Ameritrade is right, makes sense that they will report by Monday. Sirius web site still hasn't even acknowledged the official vote. Must be out partying.
    2008 Jul 26 10:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    Chicago Gary: The line is "what a long strange trip it's been".
    2008 Jul 26 10:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for the info Mr Savery.

    I'm hearing much optimism in the posted messages, however I'm quite the pessimist. I won't believe it 'til I see it! Both XM's and Sirius's stocks were down and now this merger is suppose to raise the roof? Why?

    I'd like to know: Who's heading the merger? Who're losing their jobs? Is the merger going to stay a monopoly, or is a bigger company going to buy it out?

    Just a few things I'm wondering about...

    2008 Jul 26 11:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    I am long here, but remeber that legal action from the opposition can create more delays. This can only hurt things for both companies, especially with SIRI needing to re-finance....the sooner the better. Bottom line, the two things that concern me the most are further delays and refinancing. If we can get through both of those soon, the stock should be above $3.00 within a few months....$5.00 by the second quarter 2009. There is just not much downside from here.
    2008 Jul 26 11:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Like to add my thanks to Tyler. Helped me maintain my sanity during this 'haul'.
    Got to agree with the posters who lean toward the small pop. The movement of this stock has confounded me, but also taught me much about patience.
    2008 Jul 26 11:33 AM | Link | Reply
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    The FCC still might force them to carry HD radio in the future? That is an outrage. However, they will take 20yrs to reach a decision on that one!
    2008 Jul 26 12:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    Satellite will be the new mainstream. NAB held us all hostage long enough. Feels like the Boston Tea Party a radio revolution of sorts. We will finally have reasonable and affordable options, MLB, NFL ETC..ETC. I'll pay for programming any day of the week so I don't have to listen to the idiots on the morning programs. Their freaking out for areason and it has nothing to do with their worries about the consumer. T-Radio is dead....long live Sat Radio. People spend many times more for newspapers, coffee, cigarettes etc. there is a lot more value received for the measly subscription price of Sat radio. I wish these idiots would spend more time working on the oil price manipulation and all the mortgage fraud. Thats what is hurting me not radio concerns. I think I can handle that on my own.
    2008 Jul 26 12:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    To be honest, I have already thanked Tyler for his articles many times and expect to be reading his articles for a long time to come. I am also sorry to have to do this, but I am going to have to repost something I spent to much time on, considering my terrible typing skills to see it buried.

    Holy crap, people have no idea, just how big that spectrum is. Terrestrial radio will never be the same. Thats why they fought to keep this from coming, thats why it took so long for the FCC. They knew full well, just how big this is going to be, they did not want to be the ones that turned terrestrial into what it will end up being. That spectrum is bigger then all the other stations combined think about it this way it took CCU 20 years to get were they are today which is about 750 stations. That only covers not even a tenth of the area that satellite radio covers. Does that tell you how big this really is. God help terresrial if they ever get slapped into paying royalties. My god we have just seen the begining here. Canada has just started to pick up.This thing is going to be almost as big as DISH and DTV.


    Guys, the short term is not important, I know you think you have waited a long time already. But I am telling you this is going to be so big I think that a mere 15,000 to 20,000 shares if held onto for the next 3 to 4 years will be enough for many to retire.


    First lets go over the concessions.

    1.)Turning 24 channels over to non-commercial and minority programming.

    I know many think this to be the worst of them. I actually think it is one of the best. The reason is simple, from what I have read and understand SIRI and XMSR both already have most of the channels that comply with this. So one of two things happen both are not so bad. One is SIRI/XMSR do not have to give a full 24 channels up anyway. The second one, is the better of the two though. Because they already have many of these channels they can stop carrying them and let the Public Knowledge and minorities pick up the cost for the content. The best part is that as I understand, The enities dont pay anything for the lease but have to pay for their own content, and people still have to subscribe to get them. So in the end while the quality will go down on those channels, because of the need for more commercials to pay for the content will go up. It will actually save SIRI/XMSR money that they would have had to pay for at least 12 out of the 24 channels (that is being conservative).


    2.)Three year price freeze

    This is not so bad ether. Lets face it, if Mel could afford to keep the prices down he would he knows there is only so much the masses are willing to pay for radio. That is why I believe this is not even really a concession. They would do this anyway if they could.


    3.)Open Access

    Who here, would really think this is even a big deal at all anyway. I dont know if most know this, but manufactures are not breaking down SIRI/XMSR doors to build satellite radios. Even if they were, I am sure Mel is going to make dam sure, it is at the very least not harmful to satellite radio. As proof look at the concessions he was able to get.


    4.) A-La-Carte pricing available within 3 months of deal closure.

    I posted on this before this is what I said about that:

    Here is a thought, How many subscribers do you think hold both SIRI and XMSR right now, and are paying the 25.9 each month for both. I have to say, I think the percentage is very very low. Now how many subscribers do you think that have had all the content that they have been exposed to from ether SIRI or XMSR would go down to the 6.99 subscribtion that really only offers music channels. I think that percentage is very very low, as a matter of fact if they would go for that package then chances are there is a big percentage of those that would have (churned out) left anyway. Now how many people that pay 12.95 a month to get one would not mind paying 2 or 4 dollars more to get the SIRI/XMSR you have now plus the best 13 channels from the other. IMO, The al la cart will not only lower churn, but may actually bring up the ARPU. Give them a year and then you will have another price point that will offer, access to both full services, for some higher price.

    Here is an example I think we all can agree with: How much did you start paying for your cable/satellite tv when you first got it. Now how much are you paying. I would be willing to bet most have upgraded to the extra package and are now paying more then they did when they first started it.

    All I am saying is when you here analyst say the al la cart is going to bring ARPU way down think about what happen to your cable/satellite tv bill. Just a piece of common sense. I also believe Mel Karmazin has thought about it to.


    5.) have to have a interoperable radio in 9 months.

    Ho no, you mean that they are going to have to put out a radio, that when it comes out, (the sooner the better) will start the big savings and profits for the companies.


    6.) Have to provide service to Puerto Rico.

    I think that one speaks for its self, if you ask me. Sure there are cost to the towers but in a population of over 3 million plus it being a tourist spot. I think they will be able to find enough people and hotels that are able to afford a satellite radio subscription, to more then pay for the towers.


    So there you have it, there they are, all the big bad concessions. Maybe someone can tell me, where are they all that bad, because I just dont see the big down side.

    These concessions are one reason, I would get so pissed at people that put Mel Karmazin down. That he was not worth the pay cut he took to come to SIRI.


    Next I was rushed the last time I started to write about just how big this is going to be. Now I am just tired. So I will make another quick reason, why I think this is going to be big. Mel did not take a pay cut and come to a smaller company to just sit back and bide his time til retirement (he is not like me LOL). He could have done that anywhere and made more money to boot. I beilieve he came to SIRI with this merger already planned. He is by far no fool, and he could see the slow death of terrestrial radio coming. I believe he came to SIRI to become a even bigger legend then he already was. He in one fail swoop has control of more spectrum then all the terrestrial radio stations combined. He will be running a media giant almost over night. When you consider how long it took all the other terrestrial radio companies to become as big as they are today. He knows that if internet radio does ever become a real business that SIRI/XMSR will be the best posittioned to take advantage of it. The biggest reason is simple internet has to do something that terrestrial doesn't pay royalties. You think terrestrial has alot of commercials just imagine how many they would have, if they had to pay for royalties on top of everything else. the same problem will be there for the internet radio companies. They will have to start to go to a subscribtion base business model. Well SIRI/XMSR are going to have a hugh jump on them. Think of how much it cost SIRI/XMSR to start up in the beginning. I will just say it is not going to be easy when SIRI/XMSR are the 300 lb gorilla, which already has alot of the people that are willing to pay for radio. The well is going to be shallow by the time internet can even become a viable player. Just some common sense with some speculation tossed in.

    2008 Jul 26 12:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Scottrade indicates that Sirius is expected to release its 2Q results on Thursday July 31. They are generally quite accurate. However, that might be just the time needed for the markets to adjust to the merger, swallow the info associated, and determine the appropriate value based on all factors. Thought I'd share it. Thanks all for your comments and info. Seems like we're all in a "who the hell knows" kind of mindset. Let us hope Monday is a day of victory for all.
    2008 Jul 26 12:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    Why is everyone negative on this stock? "Cautious optimism?" huh They've merged. Now it's time for this stock to skyrocket! $8 by the end of August!
    2008 Jul 26 12:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    Etrade has July 28, 2008
    2008 Jul 26 12:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    Sorry I had to get that out of my system. I have been holding it back for so long it was killing me, everytime I would hear these dolts come here and say this is the worst stock to be speculating in. The things I have just told to you are things many of the long term investors know, but short term must not, if they are even thinking of getting out now or in the near future. I have never really cared about a pop in the stock price, on the merger being complete. For me it has always been about just getting the ball and chain that was on them, off so they could finally move on to the future I just talked about. I have said it before it is my true belief that if you sell soon, you will be kicking yourselves in the ass, and saying why did I not hold onto that stock 3 or 4 years ago, 3 or 4 years from now. Many that have read my post, know while I own the stock I am not just a pumper that wants the stock to go up short term so I could sell it. I have made it clear what I think it was worth not to long after the merger, and that if it started to get to over 5 at that point, I would start to sell even my long holdings because it just is not worth that much and would come down big time anyway. I have not ever felt this good about a investment since DISH and DTV. While this is all just my opinion I think many that have read my post know I use common sense, research, and I never go to far off the reservation, which is why I have been right so many times. But I have been wrong a few times to, so take it for what it is worth.
    2008 Jul 26 12:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    I asked the Pop or Drop on Monday question last night but left out my motivation for asking. I'm very positive on SIRI. I plan on buying more while it's still cheap. I'm not a seller here at all. I see this as a long term investment and agree with cos1000 and 163888 and others that this company has a great future. $2.25 - $2.75 on Monday is fine with me. It'll be twice that soon enough. Up or down in the next couple of weeks is ok either way as far as I'm concerned. Down I buy more, up I enjoy the ride. I never thought of SIRI/XM as a lottery ticket.
    2008 Jul 26 12:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    i havent listened to regular radio in years.the price is of the stock is not as important as the politics & lobbying that is killing this country.the voting on this along party lines shows how the american citizen is being screwed.the new conservative socialism may well be the beginning of the end of capitalism as we know it. this ,over 400 day event,are the weaknesses(along with mr.brown of katrina fame among many) that show these appointees are not public servants but kind of for hire private servants each with their own agenda & easily influenced to help themselves.wake up folks-we are the losers.
    2008 Jul 26 01:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    I've done my DD and heard all the opinions about the synergies of the deal but where are these vast revenues going to come from to service XM's debt? I don't think "Joe Sixpack" is a potential subscriber; new car sales are a bust; where's the $$ coming from?
    2008 Jul 26 01:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    I foresee a future where the iPhone / iPod takes over the automobile industry as the device of choice. I wouldn't doubt if it's the next logical step in Steve Jobs' master plan. I'm confident that it will have a satellite receiver built-in for real-time GPS and mapping, and also for streaming SatRadio. Retail and OEM equipment will always be around, but the iPhone will be an unprecedented distribution platform for SatRad.

    People could have SatRad, Internet radio, their iPod library, Pandora, etc. in their pockets and their cars. They can listen to whatever they're in the mood for at any given time. If they wanna listen to preimum SatRad content, they'll need a subscription. That doesn't mean everyone's going to sign up immediately, but the sheer volume increase in accessibility is a numbers game that favors a boost in subscriptions.

    Piggy-backing off the success of Apple's innovation is a win/win, if SatRad and Apple can form some sort of partnership to link iTunes with SatRad artists and come up with creative business incentives to cooperate. I'm sure there's plenty of money to be made on both sides. As has been stated by many intelligent posters previously: SatRad is about content, not technology - CONTENT IS KING, and consumers are willing to pay for it...

    Just my speculation for the not so distant future (3-5 years)... As much as I want to unload my block and get out, I think I might hold for a long, long, long time... ;o)

    10 years from now, it's gonna be like one of those Motley Fool ads proclaiming "if you had invested in SIRI in July of 2008, you'd be up a gazillion % and your initial investment of $10K would be worth $250M!!!"

    Good luck everyone - let the games begin!
    2008 Jul 26 02:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    OKMONEY, first lets take a look at a consevative pool of subscribers 10 % of the population in the US make over 125,000 each (not your normal "Joe Sixpack). That gives us just over 32 million very possible subscribers. Next, I would be willing to bet that even Joe Sixpack is subscribing because the take rate for XMSR is just over 53 %. That is much more then 10% of the population. At the bare miniumum it is 25% of the population. considering almost half of all cars sold have satellite radios in them, and then just over half of that keep the service. So take that number, we come up with a less conservative number of subscribers being just over 78 million likely subscribers. So lets even spilt the difference between the 32 million and the 78 million and we get around 55 million more likely then not subscribers 55 million based off a 9 ARPU we get almost 6 billion in revenue a year. It puts that 3 billion in total debt, in more of a prespective dont you think. Of course it will take a few years to get there but they also dont need to many more, lets say 23 million (or 11.5 million each) subcribers combined on a totally stand alone basis with no synergies at all. I dont think that 23 million is a number that they will have to much trouble getting to by the end of 2009, considering in the last year SIRI was able to add 2 miilion net subscribers, all the while having their hands tied by this merger process, and a bad economy to boot. What amazes me more is that in this bad economy, XMSR churn rate went down, and their OEM take rate went up. Everone including myself thought that opposite would happen.
    2008 Jul 26 02:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    finance.yahoo.com/q/ud...

    Why no comment about this Friday downgrade?
    2008 Jul 26 02:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    OKMoney: I don't know the answer to your questions, but I do know this: When cable TV came out it was great. Then they added premium channels. Then they offered Pay-Per-View movies and events. Then came digital cable tv. Then built in DVR where I could pause live tv and record shows. Then they started providing internet service. And local phone service. Same company. I never imagined my cable company would offer me all of those things a few years ago. Now Comcast gets my cable, high speed internet, and phone service - and I'm paying less for all of it than I did before.

    So I don't know where Mel will take SIRI in the future, but I'm willing to bet that he has a hopper full of plans we haven't even thought of yet. What SIRI is today is nothing like what it will be in a few years.
    2008 Jul 26 02:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888...Hope you got some rest. I absolutely agree with your forecast of the future for this company and look forward to the nice retirement party it will give me. As we were discussing last night when the merger deal was announced, I prefer the company to remain independant and grow organically rather than have it be sold. Watching Partnerships form for delivering content that they recieve new revenue streams from will be great to see. Becoming a platform for video content partners also a big plus.

    My feeling is that the markets that they are already involved in while competing with each other, kept them subserviant to their partners in all negotiations. People need to understand, now as before, content is "King" and Sirius owns the content and the ability to deliver it everywhere. Mel has been brilliant in this strategy, which is why they were taking market share from XM prior to the merger announcement. Without having to compete with anyone other than Terestrial Radio, Ipods, Internet Radio, or whatever...., their content and delivery system make them so much more valuable than when they were slugging it out with XM. It doesn't matter that the Auto market is undergoing a transition from gas guzzlers to green machines, they are all going to want the content that is now only available from the inter-operable Sirius compatable equipment. There is not going to be enough equipment out their to keep up with the demand, a real problem in bringing in all the cash at first. I cannot believe that analyst toting the demise of the stock will not get on board and see this new potential. The Market and analysts have short memories and are always on board with significant industry turning points, and this is a very significant turning point for Satellite Radio. That is why we have seen and will continue to see over the next couple of weeks NAB try to undermine this deal.

    I think everyone can agree that only and "Idiot" cannot see the potential, now that the Political BS is over, for the New Company. So OKMONEY after doing your "Due Dilligence" and deciding that "Joe Sixpack" isn't a subscriber, I think you should reconsider your methods of doing "DD". Your current method will have you invest in something else and watch on the sidelines as this all the success of this technology comes to pass. Maybe you'll feel safe to invest in this company when it has a positive cash flow and earnings of .13 / share. That's OK but the stock will be selling at 12-15 / share by then. The money to buy this subscription service at 6.25 a month will come from "Joe Sixpack" giving up a "sixpack" of beer for great content.
    2008 Jul 26 02:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    493 days; 49 days longer than the Iranian Hostage Crisis! How fitting.

    What a smack in the face it would be to Clear Channel, the NAB, and all the other special interests who spent millions of dollars delaying this merger, if Sirius were to realize it's full potential and become the entertainment powerhouse it rightfully deserves to be!

    Imagine terrestrial radio becoming nothing more than an ultra-localized medium, struggling to make ends meet, relying solely upon local advertising revenue from car dealers, bars and restaurants!

    Priceless!!
    2008 Jul 26 02:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    Quix, I wouldn't doubt for a minute that Mel hasn't contacted a rival of iphone to partner with. Owning this spectrum has UNLIMITED possibilities.
    2008 Jul 26 03:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, if it is in Vegas I will be there. God help me, I love that place. Nowhere else could I lose alot of money and still feel good about it. As a matter of fact, I would have a real gambling problem if I didn't love money so much.
    2008 Jul 26 03:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    Cos1000, what did you think of my take of the concessions. I have to tell you I was laughing so hard when I first saw them, I almost fell out of my set. I kept looking for the big one that made this merger a bad thing. I have always said; good old something for nothing Mel. I believe that man could pinch blood from a stone. He has got to be one of the worst mother F-ers to work for. Nothing would be cheap enough, there is always more that can be cut. I am just glad he is on our side, and not working against us.
    2008 Jul 26 03:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey - jjb1936 - Regarding the Anaylst downgrade for SIRI - I have learned from experience to consider the information source’s intentions before considering advice on Stocks, including SIRI. To Clarify, Stock analysts and Investment firms often downgrade a particular stock just before a positive catalyst occurs that drives up the price of the stock. They do this to establish or increase their position on a particular stock on a dip or at a discounted price to further improve their profits.
    2008 Jul 26 03:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    I expect a likely court challenge to be filed on Monday, but it will be buried by the news of the merger and the fact that the court challenge in and of itself does not stop the merger without either a stay granted by the FCC or by the Court. These are very unlikely. By the time the court hears this, the merger will have been completed.

    Remember, Sirius reports earnings and will be able to give guidance for the combined company on Monday. That is a big deal too. If profit and free cash flow is predicted in '09, we may see more upgrades and a continued rally as institutional buyers continue to buy. I have seen links showing that there are mutual funds that have bought Sirius. Someone should post those. We may see those positions increase as positive guidance is forthcoming. In short, there is really no chance of the company failing and only positive movement into the future.
    2008 Jul 26 03:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    I have never seen so many lame comments about a stock. All signs pointed to the merger going through already. Don't expect your stock to magically surge. Look at the auto industry right now, the economy, and realize the upside will be limited. The chance of SIRI going up 80% to $4 on the back of this is quite low. Ironically the merger killed SIRI's shares momentum when the common donk started thinking they had an easy ride.
    2008 Jul 26 04:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    THIS WAS INDEED A GREAT DAY FOR THE LITTLE GUY. THANKS AGAIN TYLER FOR THE CLEAR REPORTING YOU DID ON THE STOCK. KEPT US AS SMALL INVERTORS ON A STEADY COURSE. IT WAS GUT WRENCHING MANY TIMES ALONG THE WAY. IT US UP TO YOU MEL TO PERFORM YOUR MAGIC AND GROW THE COMPANY TO WHERE MY RESEARCH SHOWS ME IT WILL GO. I AGREE WITH THE FEW OTHERS, IN 2 OR 3 YEARS FROM NOW, IF YOU DO NOT HANG ON THE YOUR SHARES YOU WILL BE KICKING YOURSELF. CHECK OUT THE INSTITUTIONAL AND MUTAL FUNDS WHAT ARE ABOUT TO PURCHASE SHARES OF SIRI. THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. TECKMAN.
    2008 Jul 26 04:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    huerix, You are obviously and uninformed moron. You should look more closely at the auto industry right now and its relationship to Satellite Radio. Sales of new cars are down and penetration rates into the industry for SAT RAD is up. XM's current reporting proved that out. Churn went down, take rates were up.....oh shit what am I saying, do your own homework Moron.
    2008 Jul 26 05:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, As I said before when the party was discussed with Killerkaul, Vegas is fine with me. The concessions are pretty much as Mel proposed them. Some time line differences, but as you said, I couldn't find anything harmful to moving forward. Just the opposite, I found them somewhat supportive and the Punishment, 19 million in cash for this deal to happen, are you kidding me?.. What a Bargain. I think the detail on the 3 year price cap also comes with a Content / Talent expense escalator. So what's to complain about. Well I'm heading to out, enjoy my friend....
    2008 Jul 26 05:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hats off to Mel. Now watch the PR push and multitude of service alternatives emerge. This combined with institutional investors increasing their stake will benefit those who have patiently waited.

    Congrats to those who held onto their Huevos and SIRI.
    2008 Jul 26 05:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888; FREEP & COS1000: Thank you for your insight. 163888 I like your take on the numbers; I will integrate them in my DD to see if a Fibonacci convergence occurs. Freep, bet you always make money in the market; your insight is worthy of Warren Buffett. COS1000, I have been long, maybe too long, in SIRI. Sure hope SIRI doesn't turn into another ETFC. "The best laid plans of mice and..." ; you know the rest. Don't you think that NAB is forum shopping right now trying to think of a United States District judge who might be favorable to issue a TRO next week? As the clock runs so too does the money flow, or should I say bleed. All you gotta do is run the clock and NAB know it. Luckily we have an independent federal judiciary. We all clearly have a core position that we're not going to give up, but SIRI might be good for some trading opportunities in the next few months.
    2008 Jul 26 05:56 PM | Link | Reply
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    Heynow!

    Please keep me in mind in regards to the party. Vegas would be great!

    Run Blue Dog Run!
    2008 Jul 26 06:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888; FREEP & COS1000: Thank you for your insight. 163888 I like your take on the numbers; I will integrate them in my DD to see if a Fibonacci convergence occurs. Freep, bet you always make money in the market; your insight is worthy of Warren Buffett. COS1000, I have been long, maybe too long, in SIRI. Sure hope SIRI doesn't turn into another ETFC. "The best laid plans of mice and..." ; you know the rest. Don't you think that NAB is forum shopping right now trying to think of a United States District judge who might be favorable to issue a TRO next week? As the clock runs so too does the money flow, or should I say bleed. All you gotta do is run the clock and NAB know it. Luckily we have an independent federal judiciary. We all clearly have a core position that we're not going to give up, but SIRI might be good for some trading opportunities in the next few months.
    2008 Jul 26 07:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    OKMONEY, I'm glad your long SIRI. It always feels too long while waiting for a company to make you money. As far as the Fibonacci convergence: here's an interesting link: www.textism.com/bucket...

    If the NAB is forum shopping now, shame on them for not being better prepared. As far as a restraining order....What Judge in their right mind or wanting their career to continue, would issue one now, especially if as you say, we have an independent federal judiciary. I'm not a lawyer, just using a little common sense.
    2008 Jul 26 07:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    Scot here. Hey "notsosmart", I agree: With the F.C.C.'s merger vote cutting along party lines, this is just another sad day for all concerned. What this vote clearly shows is that another government agency has fallen prey to party politics. This entire thing stinks....

    And oh, before I forget, there is one more thing: I own a handful of Sirius stock and when it comes to politics, I tend to stand more down the center with a slight lean left. And with this F.C.C. vote, there is the irony: It was the right-leaning REPUBLICANS who may have saved a portion of my financial future by voting FOR this thing! My Republican friends are going to hammer me with Bill O'Reilly baseball bats as they gloat on this one....
    2008 Jul 26 07:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    This situation has been completely mishandled by the US government, bullishbankers.com has more examples of how the government as mishandled our free market system.
    2008 Jul 26 07:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Welcome to the Right, Scot.

    You won't regret it.
    2008 Jul 26 08:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    I dont know why siri has go down within the past few days I have been and out co many times because of mountung lossess since I started over a year ago at $3.38 I didnt give up but is now the time to buy it seems to be going down after market even after the anouncement what can really be expected monday? cramer seemed to straddle the fence because I assume he doesnt want to be blamed if it goes down can we expect a pop on monday? or in the near future because it has been nothing but down anyone know?
    2008 Jul 26 09:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    User 233022, where are you grtting this information? I'm showing it up.

    "going down after market even after the anouncement"
    2008 Jul 26 09:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Relaaaaaaaaax Everyone................. I completely agree with all, and I do mean all, points covered by Cos1000 and 163888 , on their assessment of the direction of the new company, and Mel K. in their complicated and very complete coverage, given in their comments above. Take your time, and read them slowly for content, two or three times......... Make some notes for future reference........ You will find no finer guidance on this merger dance. Think about it for a moment...... use some common sense. Mel has had all of this delay time on the merger, to set back and figure out every move the NAB and it's considerable number of attorneys might make, to throw a wrench into this merge process. You can bet your ass that he chose to announce over the weekend, so that he had the time to dot his Is, and cross his Ts, to finalize this thing, so that all the RATS in the NAB could do come monday, was wail like the stinking babies they truly are. They will be tearing their hair out by the handfuls, blaming each other, biting their nails, till their cuticals bleed. But ultimately, they will accomplish nothing, because it is Mel K. payback time!!! Sit back and watch the NAB RATS follow Mel and his tune on the flute into the sea. I believe it was 163888, that has told us time and again of Mel K.s classic "under promise over achieve mantra, and ultimate actions. You can set your watch by the man. You are about to see Mel K. at his very best!!! Get your pop, peanuts, popcorn, and seats for the show on Monday. Hang on ............ it's going to be one hell of a ride!!!! Blue Dog.......sic em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2008 Jul 26 09:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey Guys........... you like to play the channel with stocks,try this one. DRUG... Dragon Pharma. a chinese medical stock. I have made a lot of money channeling with this company over the last 2 1/2 yrs. The last month I have consistently bought at .61, .62......... and sold at ..79 to .82 . Many times you will get this move 2 or 3 times a day. Take a careful look at it. Don't let it's price scare you. My gift to you. Good Luck!
    2008 Jul 26 10:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    OK guys, here's what's going to happen. The arbitrage players have been going long on XMSR for obvious reasons. BUT, they have been hedging that play by also shorting SIRI in case the deal fell through. I know this because Charles Schwab sent me a very impressive package asking me to 'lend' them my 70,000 shares of SIRI. This is why the SIRI stock price has been depressed for the few months.

    Come Monday the shorts will have to cover and SIRI shoots up. How high I do not know but I would not be suprised to see the momentun carry it well above $4 by the end of the week. Then it will settle down and start to rise.

    All this depends on the overall market direction next week and what Mel says on the earnings call. I think the market will be up due to the certain passage of the FRE/FNM bailout bill which will help the financials, plus oil will continue to fall. If Mel also delivers a very positive message, the stock could go above $5 within 2 weeks.

    Stan Muse
    2008 Jul 26 11:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    OK, so we all think were fortune tellers. I won't believe it until it happens. This is why this stock is such a speculative play.
    2008 Jul 26 11:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    In regards to Muley & 233022: We all know that there is an ounce of fundamentals and a pound of psychology in the market today. I believe that the bearish trends are affecting the majority of stocks today. I have stock in companies completely unrelated to finance and they fall without ANY rationale whatsoever simply because oil prices are up and the Dow is down. Today, however, with the Fannie and Freddie bailout pending AND oil down, I expect some rallying as short-term confidence is there in the market arena. What a great time for this to happen when oil has fallen $20/barrel and FRE/FNM are being assisted. Otherwise, I'd imagine losses on SIRI at pennies everyday simply because of psychology. Anyone else?
    2008 Jul 27 07:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    P.S. Where is the positive PR we've been waiting for? Nadda on their websites, nadda on the news media channels, etc. It's almost as if the whole deal has been swallowed by Obama's visit to Europe. (grin)
    2008 Jul 27 07:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    Vanga99, I'm pretty sure that with the earnings release, 28 th according to E*Trade and Ameritrade, management is in a "blackout" period in releasing any information. They'll let the media outlets report on the merge and discuss it at the conference call. This is not unusual even with the merger approval.
    2008 Jul 27 10:20 AM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, I was not sure if we were talking about the SIRI/XMSR 50.00 per share party or a totallly different one for your retirement. I am all for having 2.


    chicago gary, first of all why did you change your name? You are going to love DSX the projected dividend is between .90 and .93 cents this quarter. Besides that, dont you remember I told "seriously sirius" when he asked that question, that when it comes to Vegas, the more the merrier.


    Scot's Slant, I have no problem with you being a democrat or independant leaning left. At the very least you are reasonable to be able to realize that it was the democrats that were the ones against this merger. There are some that still blame the republicans for this. I have to tell you I am a consevative republican, and if I felt that for one moment that it was the republicans on the FCC, that were the reason this merger was not going to pass I would be calling them and writing them everyday. Telling them; GOD DAM IT, THERE ARE THINGS MORE IMPORTANT THEN THIS MERGER AT STACK HERE, SO GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND AND GET IT APPROVED. BEFORE WE LOSE 10 MILLION VOTES IN THE NEXT ELECTION. Making them aware that they were appointed to the FCC board to hold up our republican values. I will leave you with this final thought. As you can see the democrats on the FCC, upheld their values when they voted against this merger.


    killerkaul, I use to do that with Global Crossing, and I was making money left and right, then they filed chapter 13 and I made a whopping 157.00 over 5 months and about 400 trades, so I am just saying be carful, but you know that already. I just wont do it again, It only takes me almost getting burned once, to say no more of that.

    Stan, You know I respect you and your schooling in this area. While I think it is a possibility to get to 4 I just dont think 5, is in the cards in 2 weeks. If we were talking about this back in Dec./Jan. I would agree. The facts are this has taken too long almost everyone is scidish and sick and tried of this. They are looking for any reason to get out. Then again I never thought it would go from something like 2.3 to 9 in a few weeks ether, about 2.75 years ago. So while I would hope you are right I just dont think it will happen. Case in point, I am a strong believer in the long run of satellite radio. But as I did before, and said I would do again, that even I would start to sell my long holdings in the company. But to show you how much I believe in you, I will put in a order today to sell 5,000 at 4.8 just in case.

    cos1000, I think you are correct. I to beileve that if, E*trade and Scottrade are correct about the 28th that Mel would wait till he gives the quarterly report. The problem is both are rarely right on those estimates when the quarterly reports come out. I also think that if Mel doesn't come out with something by Monday regaurdless about this merger, then something is up. Then we would once again see the stock go down. People at this point need to see absolute conformation that the merger is a go, and things are progressing at break neck speed, as you already know.

    2008 Jul 27 03:13 PM | Link | Reply