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This quote from Joe Nocera's piece on Steve Job's health in today's NYT shocked me:

"This is Steve Jobs,” he began. “You think I’m an arrogant [expletive] who thinks he’s above the law, and I think you’re a slime bucket who gets most of his facts wrong."

I'm personally with Joe on this one. Steve Jobs is an arrogant f**k who thinks he's above the law. He's also the most amazing technology CEO/entrepreneur working right now. He's way better than Bill Gates (who isn't working anymore) and the Google duo in my book.

Apple and Steve are at the top of their game, pushing the envelope in so many ways. But Steve is wrong to try to hide his personal health from the media, the market, his customers, and his employees.

Steve's health is not a private matter - as much as he'd like it to be. Apple's stock is off between 15-20% in the  past 45 days in the midst of one of the most powerful product cycles (iPhone) we've witnessed in the tech business. You can blame it on the fact that they are going to take Macbook prices below $1000 shortly and take share in the laptop market, but the stock market will love that because it can do the DCFs and value that move. The stock is weak because the market thinks Steve is sick.

The technology revolution that Steve has had so much to do with has changed a lot of things and one of them is transparency. You can't hide stuff anymore. So honesty is the best policy. And calling influential reporters "slime buckets" should be avoided as well.

Disclosure: I am long AAPL.

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    I agree..... but Fred clean up your written word!
    2008 Jul 27 06:49 AM | Link | Reply
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    Shame on you Fred and your editors for a poor choice of words. You know what they say, "profanity is the expression of a weak mind trying to express itself forcefully."
    2008 Jul 27 07:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    Fred old bean

    PLEASE clean up your language. Parrots can be taught some pretty spicy language; their brains are the size of garden peas. One can almost invariably substitute the F and S words for ones with more oomph but less cringe
    2008 Jul 27 07:15 AM | Link | Reply
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    I get it, the F word belongs there, you can't change that. It's actually boardroom talk anyway.

    You think the hedgies don't use that exact word when they spread there little rumors.

    Look I might be wrong, but to me this is time to play it a little bit safer. I hate giving more money to those individuals on wall street, but if I buy an expensive AAPL $2 or $4 Put to cover each 100 shares I hold, then I'm long with insurance (a little wall street protection money). AAPL moves up $10 or $20 and I won't even notice it's gone (to wall street).
    Any comments would be appreciated...
    2008 Jul 27 07:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    Brilliant; you state: "Steve Jobs is an arrogant f--k", followed by "calling influential reporters "slime buckets" should be avoided as well."

    Thank god you're not a influential reporter, lending yet more support to Steve's arrogance.

    Might as well restate the real story right here since the slime bucket bloggers are out in force pounding the same topic:

    The press blew way out of proportion Jobs' health. His condition isn’t life threatening. The press supplemented their “reporting” with rampant speculation, this in turn fueled the rumor mill that was gleefully juiced, pumped and perpetuated by boiler room Wall Street outfits entrusted with the marching orders to smear Apple in any way shape or form. The root in a word, greed.

    Jobs is arrogant, indeed, so are many of the “reporters” and certainly bloggers that make their nickel from sensational hype.

    Also, speaking of “above the law”, if Apple were breaking “laws” there would be suits. There’s no suits out of the ordinary for an operation this size. So again, arrogant and loose reporting.

    So while Jobs may be arrogant, by definition in this case of being a hard nosed, untrusting businessman (I can’t imagine why so much of Apple’s initiatives are wrapped in secret, go figure); so too he’s correct in stating that many reporters are slime buckets.

    The joke's really on the reporters and institutions that think most out here in the working world don’t get it.
    2008 Jul 27 09:11 AM | Link | Reply
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    to all you folks just waiting to take offense at what was an accurate quote there is only one bad word in the entire language that should never be used and that word is NO! i think we're smart enough as a group to not have our lives or psyche ruined for life because someone else said a "bad" word in this case it was a quote and the reporter was right in including the correct expletive if Jobs had used the "c" word i would have known he was MUCH angrier. including the correct expletive allows me to judge the "freighting" of the sentence more subtly
    2008 Jul 27 09:26 AM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with top_tier. Also, Steve Jobs has already demonstrated repeatedly that he understands Apple's future share price better than Wall Street does (which doesn't surprise me because Jobs is an insider and because Wall Street is stupid).

    Disclosure: long AAPL since October 2003.
    2008 Jul 27 09:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    so your point is what ??? the Jobs doesn't want to talk about his health in public ??
    well good for him it's his damn business unless of course he wasn't able to perform his job , in which case he and the board should tell the world his health conditions..

    from the same article

    While his health problems amounted to a good deal more than “a common bug,” they weren’t life-threatening and he doesn’t have a recurrence of cancer. After he hung up the phone, it occurred to me that I had just been handed, by Mr. Jobs himself, the very information he was refusing to share with the shareholders who have entrusted him with their money.

    You would think he’d want them to know before me. But apparently not.



    2008 Jul 27 09:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    stop--stop-- stop --jobs and company has been honest--how many different ways can it be told that there is no real danger of losing him---but you people report lies without understanding the effect it has on the company --the stock value ---the investors ---this is outright harrasement --his health is a personal matter ---you people even created a yellow journalistic attack the the wizzzard was not at the conference call earlier this month --he NEVER is present--but to say same you create a cloud about JOBS---all must be taken as an attack to his success to cause a stock depression---i strongly recommend that the legal dept at aapl take these idiots to task ---aapl has a war chess that would silent any cowboy who wants to shoot off his mouth without confirming the fact to the extent they would hold up in a court of law --
    2008 Jul 27 10:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    i think the honesty of these reporters is more in question than aapl or jobs
    2008 Jul 27 11:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    So AAPL is down because the Market thinks Steve is sick?
    How can you be so sure?
    When I buy or sell stocks, I don't recall filling out a questionaire or essay question .
    But MSFT bothers me...Does anyone know Balmers resting pulse, blood pressure and if he's on Prozac ?
    2008 Jul 27 11:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    oh damages awarded in court will silence many
    2008 Jul 27 11:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    shame,ethics,honesty,i... are among the many words that have lost their force & meaning. dont believe anybody about anything as all have an agenda & that agenda is the bottom line.
    2008 Jul 27 11:27 AM | Link | Reply
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    Johnnymack, I don't know anything about Ballmer's vitals, but a simple fact is that MSFT shares did awesomely when Bill Gates was CEO, but the shares have done terribly since Ballmer became CEO. Time for Ballmer to go!

    Disclosure: will buy shares of MSFT if they become cheap enough.
    2008 Jul 27 11:45 AM | Link | Reply
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    AAPL has to treat Steve Jobs' health as a private issue. As a matter of law, it is. While the federal legal obligations on Apple Inc. aren't entirely clear when it comes to discussing the health of an employee, California has more clear-cut laws on the issue.

    Steve Jobs can choose to discuss his health with people. Apple Inc., until such time as his health is a material fact, cannot initiate such disclosures.

    Also, it'd be mind-boggling stupid to get stuck in the never-ending loop of "What is the current state of Steve Jobs' health?"

    One, Steve Jobs can die at any time in any number of ways. If Apple Inc. claims he's healthy and he dies of an aneurysm or a heart attack or a stroke the next day, how many class action lawsuits will there be the day after that? Apple Inc. isn't a medical profession -- they can't affirm or deny his health.


    Once Steve Jobs goes on the record, the only way to control this issue would be to providing constant medical data with increasing amounts of information. For example, the treatment can affect one's immune system. How long before people want to know his white blood cell counts? Survivors often develop diabetes. How long before people want to know his blood sugar levels? Diet is believed to play a role in avoiding recurrence of problems? Will Steve Jobs have to issue a weekly menu? Will Apple have to disclose that Steve jobs had a steak dinner?

    The only reasonable and correct answer is "Steve Jobs' health is a private matter".

    reinharden
    2008 Jul 27 12:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    The bottom line, after this is all laid out, is that Steve Jobs' health IS a private matter. (If it were a life threatening illness, it might be material, but since its not life threatening, it is therefore a private matter!) Even as an investor in Apple, which I am, I have no right to know the details of Steve Jobs personal health under the circumstances described. This has nothing to do with what the nitwit here calls "honesty". And the stock is not off because of the perceived illness of Jobs, but because the Apple forecast was much lower than analysts expected, especially their lower gross margin forecast all the way into 2009. Fred, did you even follow what transpired during and after the call? If you had you would know this!

    As to Apple's secrecy, and maintaining a culture of STRICT secrecy, I applaud them. In this competitive world, keeping your cards so close to the vest is a key strategic advantage. I know perfectly well what's going on at Apple, when I need to know it. That is to say, when everyone else knows it. When the next brilliant product is introduced, or the official announcement is made about the next release of the operating system. If everything weren't going so brilliantly at Apple, it might be a different matter. Investors would be banging down the door to try to understand the problems, and to get them fixed. But that is certainly not the case here. (God forbid, Carl Icahn would come knocking!)

    The NYT article / author quoted for this piece is also totally off base when he says that Apple's secrecy "poisons its corporate governance. Apple tells analysts far less about operations than most companies do." Nonsense - again, Apple is in a very competitive technology space and secrecy is paramount! (Look how quickly the iPhone was cloned [albeit poorly] in Asia. Or how MSFT tries to copy Apple [again, albeit poorly].) The fact is many companies have stopped giving guidance in their quarterly calls because they're afraid of being sued by shareholders if there predictions fall short, yet Apple consistently provides guidance for the upcoming quarter, albeit consistently conservative guidance, but we do know what to expect.

    Steve and Apple, keep doing what you're doing! Delight us with the brilliance of your market changing products. And keep us guessing. To your health Steve! And to everyone at Apple, great job!
    2008 Jul 27 12:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    keep lowering your prices and your margins and things will continue to decline. keep quite, lack transparency, don't pay dividends, and who knows how many more "investors" will buy your stock. Didn't Enron have a great PR capability as well?
    2008 Jul 27 12:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    This is simply an outrage to all sentient mammals at least capable of producing a semblance of basic rationality !

    Henceforth, he SEC should require that quarterly reports fully disclose every companies type 5 shareholder's medical records. Most importantly, in this brave new world we have access to every document held by the person in question's health insurance agency ( unless the shareholder gets health insurance from the company in question, in which case a the SEC will step in an act as unbiased measure of health ) .

    Think of the charts ! AAPL PE to Steve Jobs HGL has just broke out of its 200 MDA ...BUY BUY BUY... but look at the T-cells
    2008 Jul 27 12:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    To texasgolfer, do you know how to spell? Do you really follow this company closely? Where do these moronic posters come from. Apple has not lowered their prices dumbdumb. If you are speaking of the iPhone, Apple is getting full price at what is believed to be an incredible margin. It is the service provider that is giving the discount as they subsidize the iPhone! If you are speaking of the least expensive iPod shuffle, yes they did lower prices on that one, and their COG had also dropped dramatically. And wow, they dropped the price by what $30? Yet they blew out the quarter including units sold, and the profit and gross margin numbers. What a disaster! In fact, Apple has consistently held steady on their overall pricing and product strategy of adding new features, functionality and higher performance, providing even greater value to their customers. Perhaps you should spend less time on the golf course....
    2008 Jul 27 01:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    I agree with two tier . Also seeking alpha should really stick to informative reporting and keep out of the muck style of the rags one would find at the supermarket check out stand.
    2008 Jul 27 02:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    Good read, thanks.
    2008 Jul 27 02:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    Steve Jobs in not an arrogant f**k ... he's an arrogant p***k. :) Get it straight.

    Looking forward to lower prices on laptops and iPods.

    2008 Jul 27 04:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am long aapl with protective puts because of the volatility. If people did their own research instead of relying on Bloomberg, CNBC and various bloggers, they would have read that Jobs does not have a recurrence of cancer when the company stated so in early June, right after the introduction of the new cell phone. Long term, Aapl has great potential for creating additional wealth. What the company should do is advise its stockholders that a succession plan is in place should Jobs leave the company again, or die. That would help the stock price more than reports about Job's health.
    2008 Jul 27 07:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    I have to admire the courage of the author to write this knowing the vitriol he was sure to take for daring to remotely criticize Apple. It seems to attract folks who regard Apple as a holy crusade rather than any other investment.
    2008 Jul 27 07:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    "And calling influential reporters "slime buckets" should be avoided as well."

    Really? I think it should be practiced more often, particularly those on the Steve Jobs Death Watch. Friggin' vultures.

    And I think politicians need to be called that more often too.
    2008 Jul 27 08:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    since the beginning of this story I have wondered how Nocera knew that it was Jobs calling and not an impostor. The opening conversation does not sound correct and why Nocera??

    I'd like to know more

    tom

    2008 Jul 27 08:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    wow. i intended on lambasting you on your opinion about jobs and his right to privacy, but instead i find myself defending you and your language. all the posters who think that fred should "clean up his language....": are you all a bunch of buttoned up pansies? do you refuse to read any literature that uses any "dirty" words??(and he actually "bleeps" out the true spelling of the word) geez. also - if you noticed, he is QUOTING that "dirty" word.
    people - GROW UP. what a bunch of whining babies.

    and oh yeah - try taking a reading comprehensions class or two.....
    2008 Jul 27 10:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    People STILL read the NYT? The 24-hour infomercial on Bloomberg can't even help that Op-ED Titanic from sinking. Good riddens.

    AAPL has personality. I remember the looks I got when I went long the LEAPS when the stock dropped to $16 and AAPL had the sex appeal of Michael Moore.

    The more things change the more they stay the same.
    2008 Jul 27 10:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    Place into context Jobs:

    1) Initial denial in seeking rational treatment of a malignancy in a timely manner
    2) Undergoing the mother of all abdominal cancer surgery, a Whipple
    3) His current gaunt, emaciated body habitat
    4) His failure to reject that he is dying that creates an adoptive admission of the unfortunate reality.

    The Vegas line favors Steve’s exit within 3-months!
    2008 Jul 27 10:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    To bad for the hedge funds, they'll be scurring to cover their shorts on Monday...to all those who are mad...thanks for the sale post earnings, go get em Steve!!!
    2008 Jul 27 11:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    If the NYT reporter found out that Jobs is dying (which he said isn't whats happening), would shorting the stock on that info be considered misuse of insider information?

    Jobs quitting/passing away would be bad for apple stock, but Buffet's stepping down/leaving berkshire will be worse.
    2008 Jul 27 11:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    I disagree with the author. Mr. Job's personal health is only an issue if, and only if, it materially affects the stockholders. For example, a material effect would include a head injury that altered Mr. Job's ability to process information. I consider immaterial effects those that arise from gossip, rumor mongering by hedge fund managers and the like. For example, "Apple's CEO's cancer has returned."

    We all understand the pragmatist's view: that "why not set the record straight?" But consider that once "setting the record straight" becomes the standard, each and every rumor becomes a demand to deny that which isn't true.

    The fact that the author saw fit to engage in an ad hominem attack on Mr. Jobs, e.g., "arrogant f_ _k" it should not surprise anyone that Steve Jobs, his innovative and record setting company and the rest of us, have an opinion about who, when all is said and done, is the "arrogant f_ _k." It isn't Apple's CEO.
    2008 Jul 28 03:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    the sooner the ny times goes bankrupt the better.
    2008 Jul 28 04:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hear, hear, Dizzle! Politicians are much worse vultures than reporters.
    2008 Jul 28 07:37 AM | Link | Reply