The Housing Bill: Uncle Sam Is Moving Into the Spare Bedroom 20 comments
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Well, over the weekend the Housing Bill was passed by a 72-13 vote in the Senate. Now, we wait for President Bush to sign and all will be fixed it seems. Yeah right !
It must have been an interesting conversation that the Senators had when they discussed how the U.S. government would now be partners with homeowners in their home’s future price appreciation, as long as they take a deal they cannot refuse. To be honest, I think it is unconscionable that the the U.S. government is now going to “own” a portion of the greatest asset that most people will ever have.
Of course that is only after lenders “volunteer” to write-off a portion of what they are due to help out borrowers. Also, with that, Senators also asked Santa for a new train set and a puppy for Christmas. The Wall Street Journal is reporting:
The centerpiece of the legislation is a program of up to $300 billion of FHA-insured mortgages to help refinance cash-strapped borrowers into affordable loans. The program would rely on lenders voluntarily writing down the value of a distressed loan for the homeowner to qualify for the new FHA-backed loan, and in return borrowers would have to share future price appreciation with the federal government.
This should do wonders for the dollar. Already the rest of the world is looking at us with bewilderment. If the U.S. were a publicly traded company, aside from the stock being in the toilet, the bonds would be rated JUNK!
What are they thinking? How is the government going to add another $300 billion to the tab? Between Iraq and this mortgage mess, this administration has racked up more expenses in the shortest time then can be remembered. The truth is that it is Bush’s Administration who is drunk and has been out all night partying with Wall Street, War Street, Energy Street and Reckless Spending Street.
The moral hazard has just entered the red zone gang. Cronyism at its best - and maybe a touch of nepotism as well.
Maybe there is a plan within this somewhere, but I don’t see it. Do you?
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let's say you put 20% down on a 500,000 house...(you're in for 100,000)...you did this because the marketeers (didn't realize that the chain-letter was about to run out of buyers) told you that your property would appreciate 20% in one year and your house would be worth 600,000, giving you a "theoretical".... profit of 100%. (you invested 100k of your own and your property appreciated 100k). That WAS THE PLAN, however the Ponzi scheme ran out of new buyers...and your house dropped 30% from the 500k original price...Now, your house is only worth 350k...meaning you LOST YOUR WHOLE 100K downpayment (all your money) AND 50K OF THE BANKS MONEY...
the above is a rough but reasonable example of what's happening to MANY across the country.
Now, here's the RUB...with the Proposed Housing Package...
1. It will give you "renegotiated&quo.... lower payments...SO YOU DON'T GO INTO FORECLOSURE...
2. BUT THE PROBLEM IS: THOSE NEW LOWER MORTGAGE PAYMENTS ARE STILL BASED ON A "500K" HOUSE...that is NOW WORTH ONLY 350K (and headed LOWER)...
3. So, you'll take THE NEW LOWER MORTGAGE PAYMENTS...so you don't have to move ahead of time...but what is the "investment incentive" in this for you...
your house WILL NOT RECOVER your 100K LOSS...THE BANK is just FORESTALLING ITS 50K LOSS...which will keep INCREASING...
4. So, you are in a NO RECOVERY situation...AND SO IS THE BANK (fnm, fre, or OTHER).
5. This is JUST A STALL...not a REAL SOLUTION...
6. You, will move and DEFAULT when it's convenient OR YOU HAVE TO (job transfer/loss, etc.) ...BECAUSE YOU'LL WILL NEVER RECOVER YOUR 100K LOSS...
SO, THERE IS "NO REAL INCENTIVE FOR YOU TO STAY" IN A HOUSE that
you will NEVER MAKE A PROFIT ON.
7. REAL ESTATE has to TANK TERRIFICALLY to LEVELS probably well more than 50% to even have a chance of garnering a SIGNIFICANT NUMBER NEW BUYERS to turn the recovery tide.
...and this HOUSING SUPPORT BILL ...trys TO ONCE AGAIN FORESTALL ...
EVERYONE "TAKING THEIR MEDICINE!"
"SIGNIFICANT LOSSES FOR BOTH BORROWERS AND LENDERS...all those who were
part of the REAL ESTATE RUNUP PONZI (CHAIN LETTER) GAME...
all this scheme did was PUT THE ENTIRE ECONOMY AT RISK...and in disruption...
screwing up the "rest of the population" who were NOT MUCH INVOLVED or aware
of THE BANKS GAMBLE...on what looked like "EASY MONEY" instead of Old BANK style CONSERVATIVE MODEST REVENUE STREAM!
HOUSING HAS TO "TANK" REALLY BIG TIME ...LIKE OVER 50% for a chance of recovery...(to garner a sufficient number of buyers).
both homeowners and LENDERS are in DENIAL about this AND PUSHING GOV TO SAVE THEM AND THEIR PONZI SCHEME FAST EAST MONEY...
AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN...
we go DOWN...you already know "your" house did...BUT THE "LENDERS" (BANKS) ARE STILL SCRAMBLING FOR A "MAGIC BULLET!"
there ain't one...so the gov is doing the "get ready" to take MANY OVER...
FINANCIAL SECTOR...pretty much TOAST...for most!
flashrob
They are getting one last dig on the taxpayer's money and at the same time...... securing Obama's election.
Oh yeah, when the gov't owns all the property and the banks....don't they call that communism?
Here is an idea to help our baffled govt solve the economic problems.... Bring the troops home and have them secure OUR borders (a hundred thousand should do just fine). Mine, drill, windmill, and solar all the energy we need to achieve energy independence. All while putting money and jobs in our pockets, not with all the guys who want to kill us.
You're wrong. The new loans are only 90% of current market value.
Using your example, they would only finance 90% of 350k, or $315k.
Hence the reason why lenders are going to be completely unwilling to writeoff huge losses.
Screw the damn fool government. They have been screwing responsible tax payers for years! The ACLU filing law suits accusing lenders of "red lining" certain areas of cities, with regard to lending practices, resulted in severely relaxing loan requirements, such as the mere detail of being able to afford to make payments. Why doesn't the friggin government just buy everyone a house, and furnish it with flat screen TV's, etc. and get it over with. Screw the people who saved all of their lives to pay cash for a house or make a sizable down payment. They are just fools trying to be self reliant.
And what do you think determines the current market value when there isn't a market? All those models failed to do so. Banks can easily find someone to appraise them at full value of $500k and scam the tax payers money to bail them out.
If banks let houses go into foreclosure, it will lose about half of the loan balance when all said and done. Any loss smaller than that is better. Especially if they can bribe people to appraise houses at higher value.
A more realistic example of the $500k home.
(1) Home is purchased in 2006 for $500k, with $400k in mortgage and $80k in second mortgage, to avoid having to pay PMI (Standard trick that everyone did). Equity stake is therefore $20k.
(2) Home prices tick down 4% in 2007. Equity is already wiped out, but homeowner stay in house, figuring that market will turn around shortly and they will be able to sell at a profit as originally anticipates.
(3) Home prices fall hard in 2008, say 20%. Home now worth $384k. Prospects for recovery look bad. So homeowner sends keys to bank and walks away. Net: got to live in a nice house for 3 years at a cost of $20k of equity capital.
(4) Wait, govt steps in. Forces lenders to write off loand above 90% loan-to-value. Since home is worth $384k, 90% of that is $345k. Second mortgage issuer gets wiped out 100%, losing $80k. That should have been written off by now anyway. First mortgage holder therefore takes hit from original $400k loan to $345k, i.e. $54k. Government now issues loan to you for $345k, 30 yr fixed rate. Not clear so far if the govt pays some of that $54k loss to the mortgage originator to entice them into doing this deal. But net-net, you got a big bonus for overleveraging yourself and living beyond your means.
Since the Friends of Angelo are in congress, we can expect that the settlement price will be closer to $300k than $200k so Angelo can see some benefit of his friendships.
The taxpayer will be liable for the loan value above the fair home price value and the interest on the bonds the government will issue to fund that overvaluation.
The taxpayer is no friend of Angelo so he gets nothing positive. But if the taxpayer wants to change homes or buy a new one, he has to do it in a market with artificially pumped up prices. So the taxpayer is double screwed or bluntly said gangbanged by Angelo and his Friends.