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The merger between Sirius (SIRI) and XM (XMSR) is no longer “proposed”. It is reality. As anticipated, Sirius and XM consummated their deal prior to the market opening Tuesday, and the company has a new name….SIRIUS XM RADIO.

Among the announcements Tuesday morning were:

  • Combined Company Has Over 18.5 Million Subscribers, Annualized Second Quarter Revenue Exceeding $2.4 Billion
  • Company to Offer Consumers Best of Both Services, While Maximizing Significant Efficiencies
  • SIRIUS XM Reiterates Financial Guidance; Expects 2009 Synergies of $400 million and 2009 Adjusted EBITDA of over $300 Million

SIRIUS Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio Tuesday announced that they have completed their merger, resulting in the nation’s premier radio company. The new company plans to change its corporate name to SIRIUS XM Radio Inc. The combined company’s stock will continue to be traded on the Nasdaq Global Select Market under the symbol “SIRI.”

SIRIUS XM Radio begins day one with over 18.5 million subscribers, making it the second-largest radio company, based upon revenue, in the country; and, based upon subscribers, the second largest subscription media business in the U.S. With under 10% penetration of the home and car market, the opportunity for continued growth is significant.

“I am delighted to announce the completion of this exciting merger between SIRIUS and XM,” said Mel Karmazin, CEO of SIRIUS XM Radio. “We have worked diligently to close this transaction and we look forward to integrating our best-in-class management teams and operations so we can begin delivering on our promise of more choices and lower prices for subscribers.”

“Every one of our constituencies is a winner. Combined, SIRIUS XM Radio will deliver superior value to our shareholders. By offering more compelling packages and the best content in audio entertainment, we are well positioned for increased subscriber growth. Our laser focus on subscribers will continue and listeners can be assured that there will be no disruption in service. We also believe that the completion of the merger will eliminate any confusion that has been lingering in the marketplace,” added Karmazin.

XM shareholders will receive 4.6 shares of SIRIUS common stock for each share of XM.

Competitive New Options for Consumers

SIRIUS XM Radio broadcasts more than 300 channels of programming, including exclusive radio offerings from Howard Stern, Oprah, Opie & Anthony and Martha Stewart, among others. SIRIUS XM Radio will offer these expanded options to consumers through arrangements with the world’s leading automakers and its relationships with nationwide retailers.

As a result of the merger, SIRIUS XM Radio will also be able to offer consumers new packages in audio entertainment, including the first-ever a la carte programming option in subscription media. In addition to two a la carte options, the new packages will include: “Best of Both,” giving subscribers the option to access certain programming from the other network; discounted Family Friendly packages; and tailored packages including “Mostly Music” and “News, Talk and Sports.” The first of the new packages will be available in the early Fall.

“One of the most exciting benefits of this transaction is the ability to offer subscribers the option of expanding their subscriptions to include the Best of Both services. Given the respective popularity of exclusive programming on both SIRIUS and XM, we expect many subscribers will upgrade their current subscription,” said Karmazin.

“The upside potential for both consumers and shareholders is huge. Consumers have the ease of adding premier programming without purchasing a new device. For shareholders, this kind of organic growth is a key part of the company’s future and the success we expect to see,” said Karmazin.

As promised when the merger was first announced, existing radios will continue to work and every subscriber has the option of maintaining their current service package.

Benefits for Shareholders Begin Immediately, Integration Already Under Way

SIRIUS XM Radio expects to begin realizing the synergies expected from this transaction immediately.

“In addition to realizing significant potential revenue growth, the management team will move quickly to capitalize on the synergies that many analysts have predicted for this combination. We expect to begin achieving those synergies without sacrificing any of the world-class programming and marketing we are known for,” said Karmazin.

The company Tuesday also reiterated guidance for the combined SIRIUS XM Radio. Based upon a preliminary analysis, the combined company expects to realize total synergies, net of the costs to achieve such synergies, of approximately $400 million in 2009; to post adjusted EBITDA exceeding $300 million in 2009; and to achieve positive free cash flow, before satellite capital expenditures, for the full year 2009. The company also expects that both synergies and adjusted EBITDA will continue growing beyond 2009.

“We have all the tools necessary to begin executing as a combined company with high aspirations for subscriber growth and greater financial performance in part from the significant synergies that we begin realizing literally today — on Day One. We are moving quickly to integrate the operations,” said Karmazin.

The corporate headquarters will be located in New York, NY and XM Satellite Radio, the company’s wholly-owned subsidiary, will remain headquartered in Washington, DC.

Effective after the close of the market Monday, trading in XMSR common stock on the Nasdaq Global Select Market ceased.

Investors Sing the Blues

The birth of Sirius XM Radio has many investors singing the blues. The question is how long the street will stay on the blues channel, and will the next channel be more upbeat?

With the converts arbitrage action panning out during the trading of Monday and Tuesday, it may well be that the stock has stabilized, and perhaps even marked a strong bottom that should become a very strong support point.

Many investors still have various questions, and the process of the transition still has a few more days to unwind. XM shareholders will see their accounts have shares that are able to be traded by this Friday. Those that were short XM will need to settle their trade, as the short positions do not transfer over. The XM shares you borrowed to sell short were bought by someone else, who has already (in theory) converted them to Sirius. Because of this, Friday may be an interesting trading day that sector followers will want to watch.

So how does Sirius XM Radio go from singing the blues to rockin’ and rollin’?

Strong fundamentals, good PR, executing the promises as committed, and keeping the street in the loop with guidance that analysts and investors can sink their teeth into. For the past 18 months SDARS has been marching to the beat of whatever suited any particular investor's fancy. A consistent beat will deliver confidence.

Merrill Lynch analyst Jessica Reif Cohen issued a report Monday where she reiterated her $4.50 price target. Cohen is a media analyst, and one in whose opinion I place a lot of weight. According to Cohen, “Strong operating leverage and high contribution from new subs should drive an acceleration in EBITDA and FCF. Improving trends in retail and improving conversion rates in the OEM channel should allow Sirius/XM to capitalize on the more widespread availability of satellite radio in the 245mn U.S. auto fleet. We reiterate our Buy rating and $4.50 price objective for the combined Sirius-XM.”

Cohen sees what is in essence a “THREE-BAGGER” right now. Put a quarter or two of combined operating metrics in the mix, and the confidence of investors in analysts as well as the company can improve.

Sirius XM Radio should schedule an investors conference that outlines initial projections, the path the company is taking, and expectations. This conference should be available to everyone. Investors have a glaring need to know the direction SDARS is headed, and they need to hear it from Sirius XM Radio management first hand. Do not wait for the quarterly call. Do not wait for the annual meeting. Do it now.

The fundamentals will take some time to prove out, but there are activities that can happen now that will also show the strength of Sirius XM Radio. Good PR is key. Getting the news out. Branding the Sirius XM Radio name needs to happen. Get signs into stores, and let the world know that satellite radio has been reborn. That’s all well and good, but other PR needs to happen as well. Sirius XM Radio needs to correct the damage done by the National Association of Broadcasters. They need to prove to investors and the public that the company has integrity.

  • Announce the first Open Access manufacturer with pride.
  • Announce the informational and minority program with pride.
  • Embrace the Public Knowledge’s of the world for their opinion on how to handle the informational programming.
  • Announce that those that already have a subscription to both services can now get a family plan rate on one of the subscriptions.
  • Announce when the repeater towers are in compliance with pride. Don’t let past FCC discretion jade the vision of the merged company.
  • Spell out exactly what lifetime subscribers and those with long term contracts will get for service and why. My opinion is that lifetime subscribers should get the service they currently get, but also get 3 months of the “Best of Both” free as a trial for being loyal subscribers. If someone still has over 1 year left on a contract, give a one month trial of “Best of Both”. This move was not required by the merger, but would help demonstrate that the company is a stand-up company that is looking out for consumers.

Do you hear the music changing? Steps such as these are confidence builders. Confidence is what the street needs. Not just in the bottom line, but in the company. Build a reputation of a premier media and entertainment company, and prove the naysayers wrong by good company metrics, being a good corporate citizen, and reversing the battle fatigued feelings that many SDARS investors have.

The merger is done, and there was a smattering of claps from the street and an undertone of the blues. Management now needs to step up to the podium, and turn those isolated claps into a thundering chorus of WE WILL ROCK YOU! Get the street as well as consumers behind this company so that it can prosper.

This Is The Spirit Of Radio. It is alive in everyone. Kindle the fire, and let everyone know that Sirius XM Radio is the real deal.

Position - Long Sirius, XM

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    I agree 100% and think it will happen, especially with the Holiday roll out. The company can focus on Satellite Radio and not on another competetor in the satellite radio industry. I think that we are on the way up from here after a rough week.
    2008 Jul 30 02:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    What a great article, their may be hope yet for us longs. Thanks Tyler for this and your previous articles. (hey who's for an investigation into the FCC/NAB/Congress connection?)
    2008 Jul 30 07:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for all yours efforts and lets hope stayng long will not leave us all short, hell ! $2.00 would be a good way to start the day
    2008 Jul 30 07:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    I wonder how many people, like me, are just waiting for a la carte pricing and what sales they will have on their radios to get new subscribers. I do not have SIRIUSXM but am looking forward to getting it not only for my vehicle but actually want it more for my home. With better pricing I believe that home use will increase, especially with proper sales and all of the pricing set in place for the holiday shopping season. Can't wait to get this [ commercial free ] service for my home. I think that a la carte pricing is going to greatly incraese subscriptions for home use.
    2008 Jul 30 08:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    everytime you keep writing about these stocks tyler, the stocks keep collapsing..do you understand since youve been writing about them, they are down each 70%...a bevy of your readers are IRATE considering your reckless journalism..i have come to the opinion that you are an absolute ignoramus!
    2008 Jul 30 08:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    go go go....they had better have ther radios ready immediately...that is th ekey..I have held off for months buying a new radio...my s50 is on its last legs after 4 years of bouncing around in the truck...I have 6 acounts of sirius that I have gifted...I have 10K shares and I am down a bunch....I have had th e Koolaid....I believe. GO TYLER! can siriusxm hire you to consult?
    2008 Jul 30 08:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    Nice article. Good analysis. Thanks!


    2008 Jul 30 08:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    Mel was on Howard Stern this morning and he said that the programming and packages are remaining the same for now. You still have to choose a Sirius or and XM radio and one of the two services. In the coming months, hopefully by the end of September (Mel's words), they will be able to offer select Sirius content to XM customers and vice-versa for an additional $4.
    2008 Jul 30 08:40 AM | Link | Reply
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    I think a lot of us assumed that we would have all of the content from both services available to us. I was a bit disappointed to hear that service plan. Mel would not discuss what content would be made available but one would assume that it would be the non-redundant stuff like Howard, Sports, etc...
    2008 Jul 30 08:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    siriuxm china, siriusxm germany, sirius xm mexico, siriusxm japan, siriusxm india, siriusxm italy, sirusxm canada, siriusxm greenland, siriusxm france, siriusxm todo delmundo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
    2008 Jul 30 08:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    Doing the math if xm ended est..$ 8.00 with Sirius at $ 1.88 ! one would hope SiriusXM would average out $4.00 for starters??
    2008 Jul 30 08:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    Stink,
    That sounds pretty lame.
    2008 Jul 30 08:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler, ignore GJELO and continue keeping us in the know. And thanks for all the past articles.

    Questions, will existing equipment in the stores now be able to receive all the combined channels? Is there still any reason to wait to buy? If so, when will this be fixed?
    2008 Jul 30 08:47 AM | Link | Reply
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    harleyguy - XM converts to 4.6 shares of SIRI, so that logic fails.
    2008 Jul 30 08:48 AM | Link | Reply
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    Yes I know, wishful thinking Ouch " house pain"
    2008 Jul 30 08:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    Amen, Tyler you rock!! hella of an article keep them coming.
    2008 Jul 30 08:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    harleyguy- it doesn't work like that because siri is going to exchange 4.6 shares of siri for 1 share xm , so it is the siri stock price as the starting point ...xm's price per share is now irrelevant ......however 4 bucks a share is a realistic benchmark , once the wheels get out of the mud !!!!! and it should one day do even better than that ......the sky is the limit if , and when , the company becomes profitable ....it will take a little time , but the future looks much better to me now
    2008 Jul 30 08:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    muley101... from the Mel Karmazan interview this morning on Howard; it doesn't look like they are going to combine all of the content... for now. You choose your preference, XM or Sirius, and you get the same package you would have gotten last week or last year. They will be offering package upgrades for $4/month where XM customers will get select Sirius content and vice-versa in the coming months.
    2008 Jul 30 09:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    Shure46-thank you !
    2008 Jul 30 09:10 AM | Link | Reply
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    That is also lame that Mel K. wouldn't discuss what content will be made available.
    2008 Jul 30 09:11 AM | Link | Reply
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    Folks, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this piece smacked me in the face at 3am when I came home and looked at my TDAmeritrade account. I was now the proud owner of 10,350 shares of SIRI and had been waiting patiently since last September,when I opened my position. I am also now the proud owner of a $13,000 margin call which will be due when the shares get delivered to my account. Because SIRI is below 2 bucks, 100% equity is needed to purchase and hold these shares.

    This might be the reason why the stock got hammered: manipulation. The brokers will now get to snack on a lot of free SIRI shares out there from people who won't have the money to cover the call, and then hold the shares for the soon-to-arrive 3 bagger.

    I am delivering this grim news so those of you who will be affected are aware and can start making immediate counter-actions. I'd hate to see my fellow longs who suffered through this with me end up with nothing more than a Pyrrhic victory.
    2008 Jul 30 09:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    Is there a case for Tortious Interference en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... against the NAB and C3SR? They made a lot of false claims, especially regarding the company being a monopoly, after the DOJ said it was not, in order to delay the merger and hurt the company, its investors, and subscribers. I still do not know who or what the C3SR is or was, or who they were funded by. I'd like to see us go after these guys, especially the NAB with their deep pockets.
    2008 Jul 30 09:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    gekko13 - Could you please explain what you said in english and what you refer to as the 3 bagger soon to arrive and what immediate counter actions can be taken.
    2008 Jul 30 09:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    Gekko why would anyone place a margin call on a $2.00 position? I;m sorry I should not have started this post that way. I don't mean that in a derogortory manner, however it''s $2.00. At this stage I don't think there are too many other longs that fall into that catagory, so it will not affect the stock price at all. Sorry-mannn.........
    2008 Jul 30 09:40 AM | Link | Reply
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    Heu goulosh...... speak for yourself!!!......... yours, and one or two other whiners, are the only idiots who feel that way. The rest of us appreciate the selfless time, dedication, insight, research, lack of one sidedness,expertise, {bet that one made you want to spit up your pablum..... didn't it.} and finally patience....... in dealing with the blind fools such as yourself, as well as those of us shareholders, with repetitive questions, those of us with seemingly simple questions, and those of us with complicated questions and ideas. Thank you Tyler Savery for all of this. Follow the Big Blue Dog ..... we will prevail.
    2008 Jul 30 09:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    Does anyone know if the 18.5 million subscribers include customers who have dish network channeling that provide SIRIUS channels? How come none of these "analysts" seem to equate growth among distributed radio via satellite television. I have not see much mention regarding this, everyone is tying their growth to car customers. What about offerings to coffee houses, book stores, etc. Does everyone remember MUSAK? Applications for satellite radio extend so far beyond the automobile market that it is astounding that this is never mentioned? I mean, WTF?
    2008 Jul 30 10:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Having Sirius on Dish or XM on DirecTV does not count as a subscription for Sirius XM.
    2008 Jul 30 10:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    Anyone want to guess why they stuck with both company names rather than dropping one or coming up with something new?
    2008 Jul 30 10:24 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hi everyone,

    I just read " Karmazin added, the company may also consider a reverse stock split. "

    Most companies that they did reverse split shareholders got screwed.

    Any input will be appreciated.
    2008 Jul 30 10:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    That comment seemed overboard. Would you talk like that to his face or are you only brave enough to spout obsenities on message boards? Your old enough to buy stock and you talk like that? Shame on you.

    Opinions differ and some of us will be wrong, other right. Chill out man.
    2008 Jul 30 10:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, they have spent alot of time and money makeing that name known. Why change and get people more confused. My god I have said so many times already that until interoperable radios come out, you would not get all of both. I mean How many times have people seen this comment:

    Here is a thought, How many subscribers do you think hold both SIRI and XMSR right now, and are paying the 25.9 each month for both. I have to say, I think the percentage is very very low. Now how many subscribers do you think that have had all the content that they have been exposed to from ether SIRI or XMSR would go down to the 6.99 subscribtion that really only offers music channels. I think that percentage is very very low, as a matter of fact if they would go for that package then chances are there is a big percentage of those that would have (churned out) left anyway. Now how many people that pay 12.95 a month to get one would not mind paying 2 or 4 dollars more to get the SIRI/XMSR you have now plus the best 13 channels from the other. IMO, The al la cart will not only lower churn, but may actually bring up the ARPU. Give them a year and then you will have another price point that will offer, access to both full services, for some higher price.

    It already said you were only going to get 13 channels from ether one and that you needed to have an interoperable radio to get all of both.
    2008 Jul 30 11:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    TYLER, KILLERKAUL, 16388, COS1000, BRANDON POSTS ARE AWESOME. They are well thought out, have a lot of common sense to them and seem to put things in perspective. Thanks boys and keep them coming.

    If others dot like what they read, they can leave at any time.

    I
    2008 Jul 30 11:09 AM | Link | Reply
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    Party in Vegas in 3 or 4 yrs!
    2008 Jul 30 11:10 AM | Link | Reply
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    You may have already said it, but you say so much on here; who can keep up?

    Your logic is right on the familiarity of the XM and Sirius name. I think a lot were expecting a morph or the two or simply dropping XM. ie.. SiriusX. Mel stated that the sole reason for keeping both names in tact was because of the car manufacturer's agreements with both companies. All GM cars have an AM/FM button and an XM button. It was that reason alone, according to Mel, that the XM name was kept in tact.

    He also stated that the upgraded package will be $4 and hopefully will be available by the end of September. He would not elaborate or speculate on which channels would be offered in the "cross programming" package. I think it is obvious that Howard, NFL, MLB, NHL and the like would be the candidates.

    And stop telling everyone that you already told them. Sheesh... some of us actually think for ourselves and get info from other sources.
    2008 Jul 30 11:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hi everyone,

    I just read " Karmazin added, the company may also consider a reverse stock split. "

    Most companies that they did reverse split shareholders got screwed.

    Any input will be appreciated.
    2008 Jul 30 11:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    GJELOSH197, Nobody forced you to buy the stock. You like many are pissed that you got in because of the merger thinking you were going to make 3 or 4 times your money in a year and you didn't now you are mad. Well you only have yourself to blame for your decision. How about taking some personal responsibility for crist sacks. I is amazing how many who have been in for alot longer have not seen Tyler as anything more then a place to get information. Does he spice it up, yes. Only a moron would not be able to see that when the C3SR is saying that they are for satellite customers and be wanting to take both licences, is not in the customers best interest. So when Tyler says that about them I think we can see that is his opinion and one that most could figure out.
    2008 Jul 30 11:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    goolosh.......... would you like to make a friendly cash wager as to whether you or I have the greater number of siri and xmsr shares to date?...............sa... $1000.00.... or more if you like, you can name the amount. You may also choose who may hold the money for us. Would you like to play?
    2008 Jul 30 11:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    P.S. GJELOSH197, just to add I am glad I had the information on C3SR, then not. I am glad I was able to right the FCC and my congressmen about this and tell them I was not being fooled. That I knew exactly who they were and who they really represented.
    2008 Jul 30 11:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    163888 and Killerkaul, can you guys please ignore goulash-whats-his-face and offer your intelligent insights on this stock and its future, etc. You, along with Tyler are about the only posters with something worthwhile to say. I think NewGener had a Q. about reverse splits?
    2008 Jul 30 11:21 AM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, As to your last paragraph. Then why is it, I go down the comments I still see 3 or 4 people, that I have seen before here, still say they did not know.
    2008 Jul 30 11:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    I can't hear you........
    2008 Jul 30 11:24 AM | Link | Reply
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    blogtrog, It as been my experience, that they normally do suck unless there is some kind of catalist to go with it. Metrics have to improve along with it. If that happens, then they are good because the big boys will buy the stocks. pushing them up even more.
    2008 Jul 30 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    Blogtrog.......... sorry.... was just trying to make a little easy money on the side. I think 163888 might have your insight into a reverse split, and it's negative connotations in all or some instances.
    2008 Jul 30 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    163888....... you are always one step ahead of the rest of us. LOL
    2008 Jul 30 11:31 AM | Link | Reply
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    163888.......... it wouldn't surprise me if Mel K. hadn't thought of this as a way to get the major $$$$$$$$$$$$$ players involved in the runup.
    2008 Jul 30 11:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    Okay any predictions on the stock value after tomorrow earning report neg ---- ?
    2008 Jul 30 11:50 AM | Link | Reply
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    Killerkaul, Just common sense man, thats all it is. Common sense tells me the ones that are pissed are ether in the margin or are what I call "short term longs" they just found out they wasted a year and a half (plus some money if they want out now) of their time on this. As you know, you, cos1000, myself, and many others that are in for the long term are not mad we are happy. The merger is behind us and the future is brite, reguardless of the short term economic down turn and the slow OEM sales that go with it.

    On the split, I dont know. I am stuck between the two on that one. I dont ever like to see a reverse split. But as you said if it gets it to over 5 then the big players can buy, plus the other added thing is people will be able to use margin if they want to again.

    By the way, I do feel bad for the people that owned XMSR with margin money, that are now stuck in the margin. I hate to say it, but remember what I said before about the SIRI down turn be ready again because it may happen again this time because people that had XMSR thought they were not going to have to deal with that problem but are now going to have to deal with it.
    2008 Jul 30 12:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks 163888, Killerkaul
    2008 Jul 30 12:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, look at "gekko 13", 9:12 AM, post.
    2008 Jul 30 12:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    Muley -- A litigator would give you a better answer, but if I were presented these facts on an exam or something, I would say there is no claim. Above all else, I don't think the NAB or their alter ego made any false claims. They made self-serving, contradictory and at times idiotic claims, but I'm not sure any of them were patently false.

    The DOJ said they didn't see the combination as harmful to consumers. I am not sure they said it was not a monopoly, and in any event, if they did that's only the DOJ's opinion, and it would be a stupid thing for them to say. SiriusXM is, in fact, a monopoly. They are the only satellite radio provider in this country (I think). What the DOJ said is, it doesn't matter, because in a broader context that monopoly competes for the same ears with a number of other modes of content delivery.

    There are probably more fundamental reasons why you couldn't bring this claim. Anyway, all just my opinion.
    2008 Jul 30 12:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    blogtrog, no problem, To me it is just taking information I have read elsewhere all over the place, including other post. Then comming to certain conclusions.
    2008 Jul 30 12:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    New Generation -- It's probably closer to the truth to say that most companies that have to do reverse stock splits were in trouble to begin with, and that action alone didn't save them. There are many reasons for a reverse stock split, but one of the more important is there are institutional investors out there who have a blanket policy not to buy shares of a company that are priced below, say, $5. You want to have access to that capital. There is also the irritating and useless Nasdaq delisting rules (useless because, if a problem can be completely cured with only a reverse stock split, then it probably wasn't a problem in the first place).

    Now, smart money doesn't care about the price per share as an absolute number. They care about the market cap, the enterprise value, operating margins, etc. etc. If Google does a 100:1 stock split, its stock is now $4.79/share, but the value of the company is the same.

    But, if you are a company that can't keep it's share price above $2.00 because you are reporting bad results and worse guidance, and you 'resort to' a reverse split without changing anything else about how you operate, that is usually a sign of desperation. Some may argue that is the case here, but those are likely to be the same people who have doom and gloomed this stock for the past five years, so consider the source.
    2008 Jul 30 12:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888........I saw that... he's right, as you are.... a nasty situation.
    2008 Jul 30 12:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    Anyone know when SIRI second quarter conference call might be? Any predictions or announcements?
    2008 Jul 30 12:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Got to go for a bit guys.... hold the fort, and my place in the line....back soon. Keep your eyes on the tail of the Big Blue Dog, he knows the way.
    2008 Jul 30 12:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    Investor blues not disimilar to the dog days of August.

    The merger is done----hallelujah---n... lets see what Mel and others have in mind. Think the company needs breathing room------just think if anyone here had been dealing with this merger for 18 months at the corporate level-----kind of like the lull after the storm.

    XMSR stock was exchanged today for SIRI

    Long Siri
    2008 Jul 30 12:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, I wasn't trying to bust your chops with my comment. It just struck me as arrogance when you kept saying that you've said it before. A lot of us are at work and can't read every post, so we don't know that you've said it before. Anyway, I appreciate you repeating it for me. You seem to have similar opinions as me regarding this company.

    Mel mentioned this morning that they had to raise over 1billion to close the deal because of XM's woes. He said that was the reason he had the stock sell-off that diluted it a bit. Do you think that is the biggest reason for the drop to 1.50?
    2008 Jul 30 01:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    I think you look at Mel's history and feel pretty good about what will happen next. The guy gets media, he has good relationships downtown, and he has a track record of generating value for shareholders. At some point, it's more than just luck.

    That said, if you were just speculating on merger pop, well, bad guess. In the end, there is no difference between short-term trading and playing blackjack with a 'system.' The odds are against you, and the house makes all the rules.
    2008 Jul 30 01:11 PM | Link | Reply
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    GJ........... I always remind my barber that, since I've been going to him, my hair has been falling out and getting grayer. But, I'll keep going there and reading Tyler because they do a great job. Live long and prosper Tyler, cos 1000, 163888, et al....
    2008 Jul 30 01:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    Mel just took on the FCC and won. Albeit over a year. Mel has a lot up his sleeve. Be patient. It will be a tremendous investment LONG.

    Run Blue Dog Run
    2008 Jul 30 01:26 PM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, no problem, It is not arrogance though, It is me getting a little pissed that people still are confuse on things that have been talked about before many times. I get that way because A.) I cant type worth a crap. So B.) I then spend extra time looking for prior long post. I see what you are saying about people working, me being retired for almost 3 years now, I forget that sometimes.

    As to the stock price. I think it is a combination of things, That as you mention just before, but also people that just want out, that thought they would make a bundle in a year, and now this margin thing again. Plus people playing with the stock. I think all this will pass in a little time. Then the stock will have a rise. I believe Mel and the board will wait for some time, to see what plays out on the stock price, before they decide on a reverse split. IMO there will be no need, but I will know more after I see what the stock is at after a week. That will let all stock problems work themselves out and then an up turn. Mel will wait longer at least a few months. Lets not forget about CPST (I am sure Cramer fans know this one) it went from 6 to under a dollar and took a year to get back to the 3,4 dollar range. There are other examples but I think most know about CPST.
    2008 Jul 30 01:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yeah, I figured it was my perspective and not actual arrogance. Youre pretty straight forward with your opinions and position. No worries.

    I find it curious that there was so much speculation that sales were down because consumers were waiting for a decision rather than buy obsolete equipment. It was said that no equipment would become obsolete; but it really wasn't made abundantly clear. I just wonder why both companies wouldn't have made huge efforts to get that info out if they beleived that potential customers were not buying subscriptions. Could it have been that Mel and company wanted people to beleive that all content from both companies would be available at $12.95/month?
    2008 Jul 30 01:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    Clearing the Bills always sounds good to me.
    Now lets move on and up.

    Run Blue Dog Run
    Long SIRI
    2008 Jul 30 01:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    Also, where did you (163888) come up with 13 channels in the upgrade package? Mere speculation?
    2008 Jul 30 01:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary, and Blah, blah, I agree. How the hell people can still be pissed at Mel gets me pissed. My god the man did the impossible, lets not forget few even thought it would ever be possible that the 2 would be able to merge. As you said, "Blah, bla" at some point you cant just call it luck. I cant remember who said it, But he said there are just some people that always succeed, Mel was in that group of people.
    2008 Jul 30 02:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, It was information that once again, Tyler put up. It was a FCC filing, that SIRI/XMSR went into the proposed al la cart offerings, that would be offered once the merger is finished.
    2008 Jul 30 02:11 PM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, go here:

    fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod...
    2008 Jul 30 02:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    I got it from here:

    A-La-Carte Discussed With FCC
    March 28, 2008 (7:24 pm) Tyler Savery
    Counsel from Sirius and XM met with the FCC Commissioner and various staff on March 26th, 2008. The topics of discussion centered on merger filings consistent with that which has been discussed in the past. As part of the meeting, Sirius and XM showed the proposed A-La-Carte channel line-up for post merger satellite radio. The company urged the FCC to deliver prompt approval.

    Not that A-La-Carte programming was ever out of play, but this meeting would tend to suggest that it is indeed a merger concession that will likely be demanded by the FCC.

    Interestingly, the comments urging the FCC for prompt approval, while expected in this situation, would also seem to indicate that the regulator is now to the point of weighing the merger options. This would be consistent with comments made by Chairman Martin that the staff was drafting documents outlining various merger situations.

    Reading between the lines, it is possible that various concession options were discussed at this very meeting.

    The FCC published their weekly “Items In Circulation” list today, and the Sirius XM issue was not present. At this point it would appear that the FCC is close to rendering their decision. They are meeting with company counsel, and seem to have all relative information in their hands to consider.

    I would estimate that the FCC will be delivering a decision sometime in April, and place higher odds on the middle third of the month.

    Sirius and XM Filing With FCC

    2008 Jul 30 02:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    stinkaroo, I think SIRI/XMSR made it pretty clear, that they would have to get a new radio to get all of both for a certain price that would be more then 16.95 but less then the 25.9 they would have to pay before. I also think that when the radio comes out that allows all of both meny will buy it. Before it comes in the OEMs. How many people went out and bought a new "I pod" or "I phone" just because it was the new thing, there are other things like VHS to CD players.
    2008 Jul 30 02:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    New Generation, I had three companys do reverse stock split, two of them are gone, kaput. The other is JAVA, take a look at that piece of sh-t. Pray no reverse stock split, or we are done.
    2008 Jul 30 02:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    Mel said this morning that we would not have to get new radios for the upgraded package. Well... I THINK he said that. I very well could be mistaken as I was driving in to work at the time. That's what got me wondering why they let potential customers wait on new radios if the new radio was not needed.
    2008 Jul 30 03:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    www.thestreet.com/_yah...;cm_cat=FREE&c...

    163888 DID YOU SEE THIS? He thinks chapt 11 is the answer for sirius. WHere are these people coming from?
    2008 Jul 30 04:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    Enter your comment hereHe is an associate of Cramer, what do u expect him to say?
    2008 Jul 30 04:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Kudos to Tyler. There is entirely too much negativety surrounding Satrad from analysts and the like. If one were to look closely at this newly formed company it should be obvious that things should and will get better. When talking to current subscribers only good things are said about Satrad. Everyone loves their commercial free, non-twenty song-repeating, raw and unsteralized radio. As the economy rebounds(lets knock on wood), the holiday season approaches, and the company settles into its new outfit the stock and investor confidence should return. Profit is in the near future.
    As for changes in programming Sirius XM radio should consider looking into the Philadelphia radio market to aquire the likes of "Preston and Steve". This show has been a huge hit over the last handfull of years and continues to be strong. A definate draw for Philadelphia listeners.
    2008 Jul 30 04:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary, Yea I did but that is the same thing that Cramer was talking about. He also left out the first option that would come first which would be filing for bankruptcy protection in wich case the shareholders dont lose their shares but the companies get to try and refinance and go back over deals (like GMs which really sucks) and then come out stronger. Northwest is an example then there is Kmart (the first 2 times) and the most famous Chrysler. All of which the sareholders did not lose their investment. IMO, I dont think ether would happen. The chances of that, are now very slim to none.

    I will say it again, I believe that the savings that Mel said (400 million) was very conservative. First that is Mel, under estimate over perform. Second He did not have a clear insight into XMSRs workings. Look at how much he brought down SIRI cost that will happen with XMSR, Mel is known for this. He comes in and cuts, cuts, cuts. I believe the people at XMSR are scared and are going top be suprised at how much more can be cut. You watch mark this post because by the middle of or end of 2009 that 400 million will go way up to 450 to 550 million.

    Now what I dont get, is how analyst can say that, what he said about the 400 million was to small considering what they had thought. Many of them did not even expect any savings in the first year, and when they said 3 to 7 billion. None of them were saying it all would come in even 2 years they all said between 3 and 8 years is when the bulk of the synergies would happen. So when I here Mel say 400 million in the first year and much bigger synergies to follow in the next years. I get a smile on my face, because I personally think, I know what that means.
    2008 Jul 30 04:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    Re: Chicago Gary--The Street article shows what an idiot that guy is. You cant file Chapter 11 so close after getting the kind of financing Sirius just got. That is Bankruptcy fraud. And, Siri is nowhere close that.

    Secondly, this rumor about the reverse stock split is stupid. CNBC asked him if that was a possibility and he was noncomittal. That is like asking me if I was going to be married to my wife 10 years from now and I said "hopefully" and the paper reported that it was rumored that I was planning a divorce. The naysayers are really out to take out Siri. NAB did not get their way and they now realize that a legal challenge is futile, so they are trying to take out Siri on the internet by shaking investors. You have to shake the wheat from the chaff.
    2008 Jul 30 04:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    EVERYONE....... IT APPEARS THAT XMRS WAS TRADED FOR SIRI STOCK AT $ 6.70 A SHARE, WHICH WOULD PUT THE SIRI STOCK PRICE AT $ 1.4565 A SHARE AT THE TIME OF THE TRADE. { If my gazinta's are correct} .
    2008 Jul 30 05:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary, Think about it this way if you know "homer985" (very detailed explaination) he and I agree. That they were and had enough money to at least last to the end of next year on a stand alone basis. He had the figures on prior cash burn and the, now cash on hand for XMSR to show this. Analyst were saying that SIRI would most likely be FCF positive, this year (2008), mainly because they pushed back the satellite launch back from 2008 to 2009. Also even Cramer said that is not a possiblity anymore.
    2008 Jul 30 05:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    WOW! GJELOSH197.....Are you actually blaming Tyler for the stock being where it is?????? Man Tyler I didn't know you had that much power manipulating this stock. Get your Cok out of your mouth GJELOSH197.
    2008 Jul 30 05:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Great article Tyler, thanks for all you have contributed during this time.

    Here's some additional points.

    According to Mel on CNBC this morning there's only one subscription service with more than 18 million people today and that's comcast. He also said there is only one radio company with more listeners today and that would be clear channel

    Each year, just based on the OEM auto channel alone they'll add about 2 million subs a year each paying roughly $120. That's an additional 1/4 billion of growth per year.

    Right now, based on the current 18,000,000 subs they bring in over 2 billion a year and this doesn't factor in any of the growth from the following:

    1)

    Look for a Music library from the combined entity that dwarfs the itunes selections with minimal additional royalty arrangements. Look for high end tiers that will include 2 or 3 free downloads / month with your subscription. Library will be open to anybody for $.99 / song.

    2)

    Look for advertising revenues to bump up significantly given the 20 million audience and rising. Also look for 100% penetration, sooner rather than later, as OEM installs increase across the board.

    3)

    Watch for a clear strategy involving branding and a huge retail push across new hardware for the upcoming holiday season.

    4)

    This service will soon be re-invigorated on the desktop with new Operating System software.
    OEM loaded this software will enhance the capture and delivery of streaming across devices such as the iphone and the new handsets from Nokia and Samsung, extending it's reach over multiple platforms.


    5)

    Look for this desktop software to include a Pandora like option, relative to the new library, that will be delivered via a streaming format. Structure will either be advertiser sponsored or subscription based.

    6)

    Be ready for Sirius to challenge Clear Channel, over time, relative to concert promotion and on demand broadcast of concerts nationwide. Both live and recorded. Look for them to include and share revenues with the artists regarding downloads of entire venues.


    7)

    Watch for expanded video offerings and GPS inclusion in new car installs.


    8)

    Look for expansion in Western Europe beginning with Britain in 2010 / 2011


    IT IS A CASH COW THAT IS ABOUT TO CUT IT'S OPERATING EXPENSE BY JUST UNDER 1/3. IT HAS HUGE AVENUES FOR GROWTH BEYOND THE ALMOST GUARANTEED 10% / YEAR. EACH SUBSCRIBER FLOWS ALMOST COMPLETELY TO THE BOTTOM LINE GIVEN THE NOMINAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH HOOKING THEM UP AND DISTRIBUTING THE NETWORK TO A NEW CLIENT. THIS INCREMENTAL REVENUE WILL JUST PILE UP.

    IF THERE IS ONE GROWTH STORY LEFT YOU ARE STARING IT RIGHT IN THE FACE! AN ABSOLUTE 10 BAGGER. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY CURRENTLY DOUBTS IT.

    END OF STORY.
    2008 Jul 30 10:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm with Ripped.

    Some more possibilities:

    1) Along with GPS , look for a Lojack capability.
    2) Look for a partnership with FEMA to provide the platform for its satillite-based emergency preparedness and response system channels. FEMA have a budget of over $1B for this purpose but have not been able to deliver.
    3) Look for a partnership or major stock buy from Apple, or some other media hungry tech company.
    4) Look for a major overseas investor like someone from China or Dubai picking up a large chunk of the stock
    5) Don't forget the catholic church or other organized RIBF's wanting a channel or two

    The future is wide open. Why do you think turdresstrial radio fought us so hard?

    2008 Jul 31 12:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    My concern is that mel is supposed to me in meetings @ XM today to start discussions and I got the disconcerting feeling that he knows painfully little about XM in certain areas. I guess they had to keep some stuff secret in case the merger fell through for competitive reasons. I hope that nothing surprises him........
    2008 Jul 31 10:38 AM | Link | Reply
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    SIRI shareholders have been watching there stocks fluctuate for quite some time. The price goes down and sentiment is up and vice versa (predictwallstreet.com/...) I overlayed the price on the sentiment graph and it almost seems this stock responds contrarily. Once the merge was in talks of approval everyone suddenly was for SIRI and now that its finally completed people are wondering if it was such a good idea. I don’t think we’re going to be able to tell much until at least a few years and its probably going to be a very bumpy ride until then. I'm still optimistic for SIRI, but this is obviously a long term investment.
    2008 Jul 31 02:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    RRegan, a 3 bagger means the stock will triple in price, and soon i would say. A pyrrhic victory is a victory (such as our merger) which comes at great cost. From an ancient Greek battle.

    163888, believe me, I'm in this for the long haul; this stock is going to be my Golden Goose. But I just wasn't expecting this POS to go THIS low, I don't think anyone was, so a margin call was te farthest thing on my mind, considering I had sufficient buying power before Monday. It's the 100% requirement that killed me. Above to would have helped. What timing. Can you loan me a couple thou, or shares even?
    2008 Aug 01 03:48 AM | Link | Reply