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With the economy still growing, albeit at a very slow pace, and the consumer keeping his head mostly above water, different theories abound as to why the financial crisis hasn't hurt the real economy and clipped consumer spending.

But recent developments in credit card payments, cast doubt on the idea that American consumers are just a bunch of whiners. Moody's reported on Monday that credit card charge-off rates -- the percentage of credit card account balances that are written off as uncollectible, an indicator of the level of real pain consumers are feeling -- hit 6.4 percent in May. That's close to the 7 percent level reached during each of the past two recessions, and all signs point to charge-off rates breaking those marks during the current downturn, Moody's analysts say.

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On the bright side, delinquency rates have fallen two months in a row, but Moody's thinks this is the result of the economic stimulus package.

It is doubtful that this sequential improvement will continue for long if the economy does not improve in the second half of the year.

Other rating agencies are finding similar trends.

The Financial Times also reported yesterday that credit card problems are reaching the wealthy:

Kenneth Chenault, chairman and chief executive, said the most affluent card-holders were feeling the pinch. "The scope of the economic fall-out was evident even among our longer-term, super-prime card members."
Card issuers are cutting back on credit lines, and scaling back on new card issuance. But credit card experts warn these moves could have long-term repercussions on consumer spending. They argue that credit line reductions and failed card applications negatively affect customers' credit scores, making it harder for them to obtain loans and mortgages and deepening their financial woes.

With nearly one-year passed since the "official" start of the credit crunch, and the jolt from the first stimulus package fading, it might be time to consider a second.

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    Well- thank you for casting doubt on whether or not American's are a bunch of whiners :)

    And this article is a perfect way to differentiate between credit cards -Amex (AXP), and Discover (DFS), and

    Credit and Debit card PROCESSORS- Visa (V) and MasterCard (MA)

    For more information on Visa -and the plastic revolution- we have the only blog on the net devoted to Visa:

    www.visawinners.com
    2008 Jul 30 09:59 AM | Link | Reply
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    I don't know why so many people are in love with V and MA. Durring a global slow-down I can't see how they will thrive and their valuations (PE multiples) are to high in my opinion. They need good growth to justify those multiples which is tough to achive in this environment.
    2008 Jul 30 11:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    No it's not.
    2008 Jul 30 11:23 AM | Link | Reply
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    Think-about-it: The migration from cash/check to Credit/Debit is more significant in the so-called "slow-down" in consumer spending. US Consumers will keep on spending money, albeit on necessities than discretionary items, on their cards. MasterCard (MA) raised their guidance last quarter citing evidence of higher rate of growth during the last recession in the early 90s (when Bush Sr. was president). The growth of online commerce also means a higher volume processed. Do you pay cash when you buy your DSLR or book your tickets online? Moreover, MA derives 50% of its revenue (and profit) from overseas. A weaker dollar means higher earnings in dollar terms. For me, MA is recession proof. I do not understand why so many people simply don't get it.
    2008 Jul 30 11:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    All of the above applies to V as well.
    2008 Jul 30 12:20 PM | Link | Reply
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    Think about it- the reason that people love v and ma so much is the transformation taking place globally from cash to plastic.

    It is much more than credit cards - it is debit cards- it is online transactions- and a whole host of new methods and modes of spending money without using cash.

    In Japan, for example, a person can simply wave their 'pay wave' activated cell phone to make a purchase. The growth potential is there, especially in global markets.

    As far as P/E- and Valuation- see many of the prior Visa posts (simply type in V in the search bar) and you will see that P/E going forward will continue to shrink- (as well as about 1500 reasons that people like V and MA).

    Last- our economy may be slow- but the growth rate globally in this sector is huge, and will only get bigger (as market penetration is so small)
    2008 Jul 30 01:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    credit card debt laden hogs.
    2008 Jul 30 04:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    Oops! Sorry a typo...

    "migration... is more significant THAN..."

    Visa 2Q beats $0.59 vs. $0.48 estimate, that's 22%, raised outlook!

    I think MasterCard will announce blowout earnings tomorrow.
    2008 Jul 30 04:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    The Beijing Olympics start in a week. Visa is getting HUGE exposure in Chinese media because of it, and they are on an intense drive to sign up new cardholders there right now. In a country of 1.3 billion people, 50% of whom live in cities.

    Now THERE is a growth opportunity if there ever is one!

    That's why I'm long on Visa ever since I got in at $56 / share.

    They need to hold an Olympic games in India! (another billion people there!)
    2008 Jul 30 05:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    Check our site for the latest updates:

    www.visawinners.com
    2008 Jul 30 05:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    Jesus Christ VWinner, do you have to spam every single Comments thread multiple times with your blog's URL? You're obnoxious.
    2008 Jul 30 09:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am on the Seabourn Legend in Monaco; today in Cannes. There is no shortage of spending going on, on ship and off. Media whiners want to depress us all. Our boat is almost all US citizens and although our dollar is weak, many still spend Euro 250 for lunch or dinner in port. Monte Carlo casino was a snobbish joke of a spectacle: 10 Euro to get it, 16 Euro for a glass of champagne, etc...no shortage of Russian mob and their high priced hookers.
    2008 Jul 31 03:28 AM | Link | Reply
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    Jake- you are right- it IS too much.

    But keep in mind- we are not making money from the blog- it was a real project for V shareholders- thats it. A lot of information there - for people that wanted to know more about V-

    Thats all man- just another resource for a single stock.

    Sorry it offends you-

    Jon
    2008 Aug 01 03:00 PM | Link | Reply
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