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With all the talk and concern about falling bank earnings, we thought it might be useful to look back a few years to see year-by-year net income for large banks side-by-side.

The chart below presents the 24 banks of the KBW large bank index (KBE), plus Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE).

Note that six banks [Wells Fargo (WFC), US Bancorp (USB), BB&T (BBT), PNC Financial Services (PNC), State Street (STT),  Northern Trust (NTRS), and People's United Financial (PBCT)] report profits holding up.

There may be more write-downs ahead as many expect, and the banks may not be on the same calendar for recognizing problems, but they also have different book of business.

You may find this historical data helpful as you think about investing in our divesting individual banks, or investing in bank oriented funds such as KBE, or to a lesser degree, XLF.

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    To all Banks and Broker Firms: just FIRE SALE from your books all structure finance vehicles i.e.: CDO-ABS-MBS-SIVs if you want to live period!
    2008 Aug 01 08:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    Please explain the headings FY1, FY2, and FY3.
    2008 Aug 01 09:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    I don't get the FY* headings either, unless 2007,6,5?
    2008 Aug 01 10:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    FY 1 is the first prior fiscal year. FY 2 is the second prior fiscal year. FY 3 is the third prior fiscal year.
    2008 Aug 01 10:22 AM | Link | Reply
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    mikeg3 and Just Some Guy:

    Based on your questions, I have added the following to the end of the post on our site:

    Post Script:

    We received a request to clarify the meaning of FY1, FY2 and FY3; and a suggestion that if it may refer to history and could alternatively be labeled 2007, 2006 and 2005.

    FY 1 is the first prior fiscal year.
    FY 2 is the second prior fiscal year.
    FY 3 is the third prior fiscal year.

    It would be inappropriate to use 2007, 2006 and 2005, because that would tend to suggest a calendar year basis for the data versus a fiscal year basis. Additionally, different companies have different fiscal years.

    For example, if one company has a fiscal year ending December 31 and other has a fiscal year ending June 30, then as of July 2008, the first company is in fiscal 2008 and the second company is in fiscal 2009.

    Note that for GAAP purposes the "year" number (e.g. 2007 versus 2006) is based on the date on which the fiscal year ends, whereas for tax purposes the year number is based on the date on which the year begins.

    For these reasons first, second and third prior fiscal years as FY1, FY2 and FY3 is more accurate, and is the convention for stock data reporting.
    2008 Aug 01 10:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    how can I use this information to decide whether to invest or bail out?

    currently just above water in jan 2010, $20 and $25 citibank options
    2008 Aug 01 03:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    dick,

    Sorry. Can't give individual or position specific advice through this medium.

    There is not sufficient information in this article to determine what you should do with the stocks or their options.

    You or your advisor must dig into the data for CITI and the industry to make an informed guess about the future of CITI stock.

    As you know the market is quite fickle recently, but then with Leaps, you have the luxury of taking a longer view.

    It may be easier to prognosticate about a security representing basket of banks that about a specific bank, but even there the surprises keep coming.

    I have written several other articles about the banks that are published at Seeking Alpha and on my blog. Collectively they should be of more use to you than this article alone.

    Your broker most likely has reports from S&P or other major research sources which you should read as well. Then read all you can about the sector and CITI at Bloomberg, Wall Street Journal, Reuters and elsewhere.

    You may have a long-term winner or a loser, but if you are a winner, you may experience periods of great pain on the way to victory. You need a well reasoned logic for being in a position when it goes against you in order to stay in.
    2008 Aug 01 05:37 PM | Link | Reply
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