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Perhaps it is being read as a sign that SIRIUS XM Radio (SIRI) is indeed going to cut costs, and scale metrics. SIRIUS XM Radio announced today that Sirius, as a stand alone company, beat the Street's estimates by a penny. The company reported a loss of 6 cents per share vs. street expectations of a 7 cent loss.

While losses are never anything to celebrate, the financials of Sirius’ second quarter would seem to indicate that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and that with merger synergies happening out of the box, that the company could have a rosy future faster than some anticipate.

The company saw revenues rise by 25% in combination with subscriptions rising 25%. Satellite radio is finally getting to the point where new additions seem to be adding to the bottom line, and costs seem to be not only scaling, but under control.

What does the future hold? Karmazin will likely speak a bit to that in the conference call at 8:00 AM EST.

Disclosure: Long SIRI

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    Ok, lets see now, we have had the following:
    1. DOJ approval
    2. FCC approval
    3. A merger take place
    4. Shorts have to cover by last Tuesday
    5. Better than expected results by $.01
    6. Announced $400 million in synergy savings

    Ok, where is the bounce/pop/anything? Why is this stock still near its all time low, less than the pre-merger amount, and way less than the price 1 1/2 years ago before the merger was even considered? Any ideas?
    2008 Aug 07 09:53 AM | Link | Reply
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    TYLER the stock is STILL going DOWNNNNNNNNNNN- not only since you started you abominal strong buy exhortations 2 years back but ALSO today POST-EARNINGS as it strives to pierce ANOTHER 52 week low!!!
    2008 Aug 07 09:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    It's down because institutiion investors drove the stock down so the small investors like us panick and sell. They then come in and buy all and drive the price back up. Trust me, the big boys manipulate the market and they work hand in hand with analyst that drove the stock down.
    2008 Aug 07 10:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    @verySERIOUS

    Man, at least get your spelling correct - it's hard to take your comments seriously when you can't even use proper grammar. Talk about unintelligent, borderline moron...
    2008 Aug 07 10:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    The bounce?
    2008 Aug 07 10:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    blogtrop which mimsspelled words are you alluding to and i am writing ' in the fly' - i have a life and do not wish to word.document my thoughts on this board but rather, express my feelings is an unambiguous manner
    2008 Aug 07 10:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    sirius guy - Ok so we are just waiting here, tapping our foot, for the big boys to buy the stock back up? I bet alot of them have covered already, so where does that leave the stock price?
    I am left to wonder why the gurus like Cramer and Tyler and others didn't see or understand the stock market and how this institiutional selling would happen to SIRI.
    2008 Aug 07 10:16 AM | Link | Reply
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    @verySERIOUS

    LOL ...it's "on the fly", not "in the fly" and it's MISSPELLED, not mimsspelled. Oh, you are expressing from your "feelings"? well, that explains alot. MORON.
    2008 Aug 07 10:19 AM | Link | Reply
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    R.Reagan
    example: NAB might have their fund managers pressure siri/xm stock lower by shorting, FCC has given them plenty of time to do this. NAB would drive the stock so low that siri/xm has 0 market share and would go BK.
    2008 Aug 07 10:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    not -serious......... you talk of your pedigree........... have you reread any of your ranting slop???? you'r kidding right? an obvious 8th grade education is however.... nothing you should be ashamed of. Most of the syptoms you exibit, can be cleared up, or at least subdued..... by getting back on your medications. If necessary, you can also return to the clinic for an extended stay. Please seek help. We wish you only the best.
    2008 Aug 07 10:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    can't be serious............rer... your post...there's that pedigree again.
    2008 Aug 07 11:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Could the folks bickering back and forth about something other than Sirius news please take your posts to a more appropriate forum?
    2008 Aug 07 11:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    WOW with all the negativity on this board all of a sudden, I'm feeling this may be a bottom here
    2008 Aug 07 11:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    I say at this price you have little down side im a buyer here
    2008 Aug 07 11:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    Will Sirius hurry up and release news on the IPhone Application already?
    2008 Aug 07 12:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    right now I'll take that penny saved .....amid all the stench , a little improvement in performance is nice to hear .....and right now this whole economy stinks ....so a lot of companies are just hanging in there ......I know that a one year subscription to siri would make a damn good Christmas present ....
    2008 Aug 07 12:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    kf........you are right. sorry. I thought it might curtail some of the incessant whining-to no avail. It was fun, while waiting for news and progress on the stock development. Oh well.
    2008 Aug 07 12:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    Let's say you have a teenager , and you want to buy them something for Christmas around 200 bucks ....They already have an iPod , X-Box , etc etc , you think 2 pair of designer jeans is a waste of money , so Siri starts looking pretty good ......if Siri has a promo for those already with receivers , a one year subscription for 120 bucks or so .......I can see Christmas '08 as possibly being favorable , and maybe even very favorable ......in fact , I think Siri should run an ad campaign comparing 2 pair of designer jeans to one year of Siri for Christmas
    2008 Aug 07 12:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    verySERIOUS, Maybe instead of spewing all of that crude and and obscene verbiage you could enlighten us on how you have been wronged. What is your current position in Sirius XM Radio? When did you make purchases of the stock and on what news? When did you sell the stock and why?
    2008 Aug 07 12:20 PM | Link | Reply
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    Cramer says "we may have something here - in three years"...is this guy kidding me??
    He was all PRO-SIRI, PRO-MERGER, PRO-SHORT-TERM, LONG-TERM and then he backtracks.
    Typical Cramer.
    Bahh!
    2008 Aug 07 12:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, Thanks for the cigar yesterday. The closest we have to Sturgis is in Laconia, NH. I attended many years ago. Back then I rode a "Rice" burner, 1975 Yamaha 650. Got laughed all the way back home for being a "Harley" wanna be. Since then, as much as I enjoyed riding, I stick to four wheels.
    2008 Aug 07 12:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    verySerious -- I will openly admit I am definitely not as savvy as any institutional analyst. For one thing, they don't waste time reading anonymous comments on random blogs.

    Anyway, to your point, the top 10 'big sticks' own 20% of the company, and institutionals own about a third of the float. Note that Apollo's Fund IV owns 6%, and those guys are pretty smart. They make Wall Street look like E-trade boobs. Here is the full list:

    finance.yahoo.com/q/mh...

    Any index that adds SIRI will increase those numbers by a sizable amount.

    Also, many institutions have investment guidelines which prohibit no help to SIRI), probably the issue behind the reverse split idea.

    2008 Aug 07 12:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    Whoa, the hostility on this post! I've been hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel and I'm glad you can see it too, Tyler. I defintley don't think were seeing the end of SIRI XM. Most people fail to realize that any sort of progress from this company is going to a be a long process with some bumps in the road. This is a stock that is extremely sensitive to media buzz. Right now sentiment is particularly bullish (predictwallstreet.com/...). While losing anything is never great, SIRI is at least showing there not failing. Management is clearly trying to make the right moves here, only room for improvement.
    2008 Aug 07 01:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    I'm hoping to get in at $1.00 or lower.
    By then Cramer will have changed his mind another twelve times to the point where he'll just stop talking about Siri......hopefully.
    2008 Aug 07 02:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey, Hey now I wish you all would get off the typos of "verySERIOUS". I mean hell if you want to get on him, get on him about his whinning. He is worse then my ten month old who is still teething.
    2008 Aug 07 02:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888 You have a 10 yr old? I thought you are retired?
    2008 Aug 07 02:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    RReagan, I said Tuesday it would stablilize then start its way up on Wed. It did, but the market has to help also I have DSX which is down more of a % then SIRI. So what can we do but wait.
    2008 Aug 07 03:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    cg, 10 MONTH, MONTH, I also have a 4 year old.
    2008 Aug 07 03:08 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888 and you are retired?
    2008 Aug 07 03:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    Crest Investor, Your gonna give me a heart attack..... a buck, please say it ain't so...LOL

    163888, not bad for 42 years old and retired.
    2008 Aug 07 03:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Scot here. That's a fast fact. One week Cramer implies that SATRAD is dead, and the next, he swallows hard and offers another morsel of thought in that SiriusXM will survive if they do this that or the other. In other words, flip flop -- he'd be a great candidate for congress or some other government position.

    By the way, Mr.Vicar, you did not answer my question with a simple yes or no as to whether you owned stock in SiriusXM. What you did is dance around the question in saying that you never offered opinions as to go short or long. Well, that's close enough--we'll consider that a no, you do not own stock in SiriusXM....

    By the way, there is one more thing: Killer, you kill me. You said the the best three word phrase I've heard in quite a while: I smell poop. That one kept me laughing all the way up until bedtime....

    Scot's Slant
    2008 Aug 07 03:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thank gog for DISH people, another stock that I heard so much crap about them never going to make it. I stuck it out and now I am living the good life. Not the great life but that is what SIRXM is for.
    2008 Aug 07 03:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    That was thank "god" not "gog".
    2008 Aug 07 03:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, My father was 50 when he retired and had 10 of us kids. All with the same mother, and are still married.
    2008 Aug 07 03:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    I actually retired (sold everything businesses and rental units and started to live off the interest dividends at 39)
    2008 Aug 07 03:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    Scott's Slant, The Vicar, VicDave posted this last night:

    The Vicar is doing his best to catch up on outstanding requests.

    I do not have a long or short position in Sirius. I have no position, and never had a position. I do not plan to take a position. If I ever invest in this company, I would buy the convertible bonds. They have a much more favorable risk-reward profile than the common equity shares.

    The Vicar does not work for Vanguard. However, he does own VTSMX and its corresponding exchange-traded fund VTI. Being indexes, both are convenient benchmarks for evaluating the performance of other equity investments. The Vicar did so here to highlight the fact that a "boring" mutual fund better serves the individual investor's goals than speculative companies driven by media hype, with no track record of profitability.

    I then posted this today after following Blah, blah, et cetera's link above:

    I found it interesting that when reviewing major institutional investors in Sirius XM that Vanguard was one of the major investors.
    as of March 31, 2008.

    VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE) 40,432,184 shrs $115,636,046

    and....When I looked at the major Mutual Funds Invested, I found that VicDave is indeed invested in Sirius, even if indirectly:

    VANGUARD TTL STK MRKT INDX FND 9,922,742 shrs $28,379,042
    VANGUARD EXTNDD MRKT INDX FND 7,004,571 shrs $20,033,073
    VANGUARD GRWTH INDX FND 3,408,268 shrs $ 9,747,646

    As I said above, mutual funds do cushion the blow when individual stocks fail to perform, VTI contains BAC with a 52 week range of about $53 down to $18.50 and back to its current price of 31.75. Even with this volatility the VTI is only down (11.75 %) YTD. In 2001 and 2002 the VTI lost (22%) and (13%) while some of the underlying equities made money. My point is that Investing in Sirius XM is "stock picking", some you will lose on and some you will win. We can discuss numbers and make them bend to our will or we can invest in companies that we have done our home work on and buy when the opportunity presents itself, and definitely Sell when we're making money.
    2008 Aug 07 03:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    salud 163888 salud! Outstanding!
    2008 Aug 07 03:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary I had a little help. My father gave me my first bulding loan. He only charged me 13% interest and a 3,500 dollar lending fee. I am not joking, he always said nothing is free.
    2008 Aug 07 03:40 PM | Link | Reply
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    I don't have much time right now, but did want to say I thought that was an excellent conference call this morning. It was good to hear there's no thought of a reverse split and that Mel recognizes he has to start working on shareholder value immediately. I'm looking forward to the guidance they'll give after Labor Day. I'd rather management take the time to see what they're dealing with post merger and make some solid plans rather than giving an immediate knee jerk reaction that might contain errors.
    2008 Aug 07 03:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am a commercial lender in a bank.The 13% and 3,500 lending fee would be criminal today! lol What was prime rate at the time of your first loan?
    2008 Aug 07 03:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888 I'm a commercial lender in a bank.The 13% and 3,500 lending fee would be criminal today! lol What was prime rate at the time of your first loan?
    Report abuse
    2008 Aug 07 03:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    It was actually less then Marflex who specializes in construction loans. They wanted 14 % and 4,000 lending fee. I was bulding to sell, not own.
    2008 Aug 07 04:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888, Your Dad was absolutely right, and if it was back in the 80's, those rates were pretty competitive. Didn't mortgage rates with less than perfect credit under Carter get as high 14 - 16%? Congratulations to you and your Dad for a very pro-creative life and solid family ties. You guys got my folks beat, I'm one of seven kids. I myself have one daughter, one wife, and 3 grandchildren.
    2008 Aug 07 04:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    Freep, I couldn't agree more. Hearing that they will be keeping an eye on shareholders and no reverse split is what I wanted to hear.
    2008 Aug 07 04:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary, It was a long time ago almost 20 years. I really dont remember what prime rate was. I do know it was much more then it cost me to get a mortgage on my rentals and that was 8.9 on a 15 year with 20% down. (no PMI plus the banks really want that much on an investment propertyto give the morgage.) As you know construction loans are different and construction loans on a spec house is even more.
    2008 Aug 07 04:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, I remember his words exactly when I biitcched about the amount. He also said to me "If you think you are going to get rich off my money your F- ing crazy." That was a direct quote.
    2008 Aug 07 04:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey you guys want to here how to make an extra 900 to 1200 a year and all you need is about an hour and a half and a good credit rating.
    2008 Aug 07 04:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    No catches it cost you nothing but about 1.5 hours a year. Well if you pay your bills by mail then it will cost you about 15.12
    2008 Aug 07 04:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    i will listen
    2008 Aug 07 05:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    hair pie its really simple if you have a good credit rating (720 or above) I have no dought credit card companies are sending you 0 % no transfer fee offers. Take them use that money to get a CD that will pay whatever as long as it is no longer then when the offer of 0% ends. Just incase you dont get another 0% offer in enough time that the previous one ends. I do it with just over 30,000 of their funds. The best one of all time is the Discover offer I got 16,000 with no transfer fee and 0% for the first 9 months and the the life of the loan as long as I put 2 charges on the card a month(it does not matter how little that charge is I buy 2 bags of chips for 2 different transactions and a total of 2 dollars) I have been doing it for almost 2 years and have not reach more then the .50 minimum finance charge That means when I get 4.15 % on the remaining balence (of just under 10,000) I make almost 415.00 on that money it cost me 6.00 dollars. Now there are things like you have got to be able to have enough money on hand to pay the minimum. But if you are short then just reduce the amount that you have in the CD by the amount of what the minimum payments will be. You are still going to make a nice little sum at no cost to you. and it only takes about a hour and a half a year. I do not recomment this to people that have little discipline, that would just get you in more trouble then the 1,200 is worth. It does work I have been doing it for several years. I use the extra money to put into my kids college fund. By the time they are 18 and ready, that alone will cover most of one kids cost. It is worth the trouble believe me.
    2008 Aug 07 05:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Te quote Frasier ........... I'm listening.
    2008 Aug 07 05:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    I know it seem like alot of trouble to some. That some may not have that kind of credit. If that is the case then start with one card and see how well it works out. Then move up to 2, then 3 and 4. You will see it gets easyer as you go just make sure you know exactly when the offer ends the CDs wont give you enough time to transfer from one credit card to the other. Plus if you get another offer 2 months before the other offer ends, take it (as long as there is no transfer fee or interest you lose nothing for taking it early) there is no garantee that one will be there exactly when you need it. Then you will be forced to take the money from the CD and pay the remaining princble.
    2008 Aug 07 06:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    163888....... I went on a motorcycle trip in 1986 with some guys I worked with at the F.D. My Capt. rode a Yamaha 650 special 4-stroke twin. It was a good bike. If you were still riding, you would be pleased to know that the "Harley's best f--- the rest metality, has largely fallen by the wayside. This is mainly due in large part, to the great influx of educated middle income and retired buyers, new to the sport that never grew up with the old biases. It has become a melting pot of quality machines and mentality. I, for one would be proud to ride with you......whatever your choice of machine. I rode a shovelhead 74 in the early 70s, and I can tell you from my experience, that the change is refreshing.
    2008 Aug 07 06:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    Sorry..... the above message was directed at Cos1000, however the offer stands for you as well 163888. LOL.
    2008 Aug 07 06:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    In reference to using CD as a warrning of when the offer ends. Most banks only give 3 or 4 weeks before the CD is due. You need to know exactly when the credit card offer ends almost at all times depending on how many you are using I find a "post it" works for me.
    2008 Aug 07 06:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    Gotta go wrench on the bike a bit, then it's up to Sturgis with some friends for the evening. Ride Free. Later.
    2008 Aug 07 06:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, It didn't stop me from riding back then, just from going to predominantly Harley's the Best outings. Back then the Yamaha 650 was a good bike, still chain drive, but fun to ride. I bought a 1983 Honda Custom out of the crate, 650XT, with one of the first shaft drives, in 1985. I used it on weekends to get my fix, and only during the summer. When I sold it 10 years later it only had 6,000 miles on it. That was the last of the riding although I get the itch every summer and all the new bikes and technology get me wondering sometimes. I'd be proud to take a ride with you, but I'm afraid I would prefer a boat named "Blue Dog" out on the Bay these days. My last couple of purchases of stock was my "Boat" fund. I am either going to paddling or going in style.
    2008 Aug 07 07:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000, you slay me, that boat fund comment was to good. I think you will have enough to be able to store that paddle boat on the one you buy from your profits off SIRI. I just read the conf. call, So lets just call it a feeling and common sense. I love this, I have not felt this good about a company since DISH. I dont think people realize SIRI on a stand alone basis would have been EBITDA positive by this time next year. They are now going to save at least 400 million in the next year. You just wait and see all the people that have been pissing and moaning about Mel will be saying how great he is by this time next year (maybe an extra 3 months).
    2008 Aug 07 08:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler, what up with the SIRIUSBUZZ website? I don't think its operating properly.

    Nice call today.
    2008 Aug 07 09:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    Anyone else having issues getting on Siriusbuzz?
    2008 Aug 07 09:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    i cannot get access to siriusbuzz website either.
    2008 Aug 07 10:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    Yes I have invested in sirius stock and think its a good buy and will turn around, I have been following this stock for the past two years, watched Mel, at the capital hill hearings, my thought process on this is the company tanked the stock, to get the merger thru, as to plead to the fcc their "biggest pain in the ass" that the company was not viable for either company to just be a sole player in the market. Sirius had to prove their market share was crap and what better way to do it than to prove it by documented proof of their stock price. All I am saying is I think eventually the stock will turn around and stockholders will regain losses and hopefully make a little. I think as stockholders we cannot forgot how the Fcc has made this merger the one of the longest in history.
    2008 Aug 07 11:04 PM | Link | Reply
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    Sirius needs to provide viable future outlook since outlook it not clear. Saving 400 mil in synergies is not enough. Mel needs to provide an outlook of what he expects revenue will be in 2009 along with net profit and what the total expenditures will be. Just saying 400 mil savings in synergies leaves alot of open ended questions that need to be answered. This is why the stock didn't move today even though sirius beat the street. Give us (shareholders) and the street more clear outlook and numbers to acheive in 2009 and then we will see stock flunctuation. Hopefully not neg.
    2008 Aug 08 05:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    I had to read them all, " ASPRIN "
    2008 Aug 08 08:05 PM | Link | Reply