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You love baseball, but your car came with Sirius. You love football, but have always been an XM subscriber. These are problems of the past as Sirius and XM have now merged to form Sirius XM Radio.

When people think of merger synergies, they tend to think of cost savings that are derived from items such as the elimination of duplicate functions, savings on advertising, or savings in customer service and billing. Some synergies have potential to add revenue, and for investors, the fact that these types of added revenues seem to be getting overlooked could be a positive on the equity.

We covered one obvious revenue stream in Howard Stern, who as the King of All Media, suddenly finds himself with an expanded audience by the addition of XM subscribers that will soon be able to get Stern's program. The next obvious crossover programming would be sports.

Major League Baseball is right now in the midst of a pennant race, and the National Football League is just now ramping up. The timing of the merger from a sports perspective could not be better. XM has every MLB game, Sirius has every NFL game… SIRIUS XM Radio will be able to offer crossover programming in the form of “Best Of”. Best Of will allow existing subscribers to get some of the best from what used to be the other service. The fee for accessing the crossover programming… only $4.04 per month.

Don’t look for a full crossover on sports, but rather selected games. There simply is not enough bandwidth to deliver all of the games to each respective subscriber base on a crossover basis, but there should be a good selection of popular games that give Sirius subscribers access to baseball, and XM subscribers access to football.

So, will the baseball playoffs and the World Series be available to Sirius subscribers? I would venture to say that Mel Karmazin has that as a goal. Will opening kick-offs from the NFL be on XM? Again, I think that popular games are in Mel’s game-plan.

Baseball and Football are the obvious sports crossovers, but potential exists for NASCAR (The Sprint Races), college sports, the NBA, Soccer, and perhaps even the NHL, although the NHL rights were paid for in part by XM Canada, which is a separate entity from Sirius Canada.

What kind of revenues will crossover sports bring? If 1,000,000 subscribers decide to add the crossover programming, SIRIUS XM Radio can realize a bit over $4,000,000 per month in new found revenue. Ad dollars would likely increase as well, as the audience is expanding, and the reach is that much greater. While $4,000,000 may not seem like much, it is “found money”, and will help deliver better cash flow for the company as it moves forward.

Look for new details to be rolled out over the coming weeks on Best Of programming. Karmazin has indicated that news will begin to roll in after Labor Day (September 1st).

Position - Long SIRI, Red Sox, and Patriots

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    Tyler, I'm very puzzled on the comment that the interoperable radios won't be installed in new vehicles for 3 years. I find it hard to believe that this time frame can't be shortened. You have GM working feverishly to get the Volt to market for 2010, but can't get a new radio device in cars till 2011. This still puts the consumer on hold for 3 years. You can fight the buracracy of Washington DC but can't overcome this so important timing issue. It's saying to the consumer that the merger (in the auto industry) is still 3 years from completion. What's your insight to overcoming this problem. I know a lot of readers are wondering the same thing. This passing comment by Mel was a punch in the gut!!! Please try to respond, Thanks!
    2008 Aug 14 07:58 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler, I'm very puzzled on the comment that the interoperable radios won't be installed in new vehicles for 3 years.
    You heard wrong Neal. 1 year not 3.
    2008 Aug 14 08:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tylers outlines why I have been holding off purchasing Sat Radio over the past year. Once the plan is rolled out and I understand my options I will purchase a SIRI radio. Where I live radio reception is poor at best for AM/FM, I am looking forward to signing up and catching both baseball and football. Not interested in HS or a majority of the talk radio stuff... mostly music and sports...
    Long Sox... Long Pats...
    2008 Aug 14 08:24 AM | Link | Reply
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    Did you enjoy watching the superbowl tyler?

    Position long: Giants/ yankees
    2008 Aug 14 08:42 AM | Link | Reply
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    Im going to protend that i didnt read your long position with the patriots and the redsox becasue i like you tyler
    2008 Aug 14 08:44 AM | Link | Reply
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    I have already noticed a better grade of advertiser appearing in the past two weeks on Stern and NFL. Sony as appeared and I forget the other. I hope the booring, repetitive debt consolidator ads, etcf. go away soon, replaced by something less unseamly. Sounds like a merger synergy to me.
    2008 Aug 14 09:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    Valuestock, Please fill me in on your info. I hope I'm wrong on what Mel stated.
    2008 Aug 14 09:08 AM | Link | Reply
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    Go Sox! I might actually buy the product now that siri will have Baseball...that was a sticking point for me and I live just outside the Red Sox region so to be able to listen to games on long rides would be great!
    Long-Siri
    2008 Aug 14 10:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    Used to work in the auto industry...programming software for car electronics. 3 years is a standard answer for any "new" product to be developed, integrated, & introduced on a car line. I would bet the radio manufacturers can currently produce both XM and Sirius seperately. I would guess 1 year would be a more adequate timeline. The 3 years comment seems to fall in line with the Under-promise, Over Deliver philosophy that I hope Sirius XM continues to take....

    You also have to realize the auto industry is just as much of a bureacracy as the folks in washington...
    2008 Aug 14 10:11 AM | Link | Reply
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    Sports + Radio = Stupid waste of shareholder equity. Who would listen to lots of sports vs. DTV, Comcast, Dish HD in the living room? Please, SIRI stop flushing precious capital down the toilet and focus on your strengths of music, news, weather, traffic and MAKING MONEY!!!
    2008 Aug 14 10:12 AM | Link | Reply
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    Usearch...........don'... underestimate the potential subscribers that are total sports nuts. Wyatte74 commented on just such listeners. For them sports in the vehicle are everything as well as at home. I'm sure Mel and his team have done their homework.
    2008 Aug 14 10:35 AM | Link | Reply
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    chicago gary................It won't be long and we will be realizing gains once again like you experienced a short time ago, in your comments above.
    2008 Aug 14 10:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    i am glad killerkaul cos1000 163888 tyler are the voice of reason. lets stick together in this thing
    2008 Aug 14 10:54 AM | Link | Reply
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    whiner alert.................... directly above.
    2008 Aug 14 11:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler I look forward to your excellent reporting regarding Sirius/XM. My compliments is very sincere.
    2008 Aug 14 11:39 AM | Link | Reply
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    Why do you guys spend your time bickering with Mr. CAPS guy. Just ignore him and he will move along. Who really cares if he holds a position. Anyone that would but a speculative stock based on a blog, and blame said blog for incurring a loss is a moron. Ignore him and he will get bored.
    2008 Aug 14 11:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    Hey all you guys - have any of you checked on what the street thinks is the outstanding number of shares? I've read as high as 3.2 B - and for the life of me can't figure out where these higher numbers came from. Anyone doing their homework would read the SEC filings and see that SIRI has never filed for an increase in stock issue - so what is it? Anyone really know? Number of shares is the measure of what SIRI will trade at. At 1.5 B (the only number I could verify) and revenues at 2.4 B the stock should be valued at 3.20 per. But if you use this 3.2 B then you are really looking at a value of about 1.45 per. So what is the street really seeing and what is fact - anyone out there that knows?

    (and the combined sports programming is the future of satelite radio - the regular radio stations are already feeling the hurt from ipods, CD's and MP3's and now internet radio - sorry, music and regular news will not make satelite a winner. It will be sports first, news/traffic-for integration with gps, and special interest talk last that will make this a winner)
    2008 Aug 14 12:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000 may have given a hint on whats happening - the street maybe treating the convertible debt incurred for this merger as shares that must be issued by 2014 ( the current 1.5 will not cover the amount needed to cover stock swap amount) Am I reading this right?
    2008 Aug 14 12:13 PM | Link | Reply
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    hey ya'll i stepped on manure, its all up on my boots and it reeks of shit like TYLER AVERY
    now im angry because my old navy boots are worth more than my sirius investment and ma' is gona pull me by the ear
    tyler help me! like youve helped ALL your investors on this board (heeheehee)
    i aint no white trash, its just that my purpose in life is meaningless as is my sirius investment but ya'll dont ya dare blame TYLER cuz youre down SO MUCH, he didnt tell you to buy even though he wrote 100 articles pumping it to us daily over and over go blue dog run like my mama!
    2008 Aug 14 12:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    by the way cos1000 - were you calling me the nut? I'm just trying to figure out why the street is treating SIRI so badly - that merger debt is 5+ years out and with profitability projected for 2009, it shouldn't be that big an issue in play. IF it is, I would like to understand the reasoning.
    2008 Aug 14 12:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    heeee hawwwww, run blue dog run. who cares its down about 90% cuz tyler has a SECRET PLAN to help us!
    hes gona write more articles, pull 'research' off the internet and repost big-time price targets, so dont you worry ya'll down so much and down almost evrything cuz TYLER IS NOT TO BLAME EVEN THOUGH YA'LL DOWN 90%
    back on the farm, the sun dont shine cuz lota horse manure i step on and thats worse than being down biggggggggg timeeeeeeeee on sirius! run blue dog run before i stick my carrot in your hole like the sheep i b' a chilling wiff at night =)
    2008 Aug 14 12:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    You know KILAkaul, just maybe you don't belong in the market - if you bought SIRI so that you're down 90% - you gave alot of money away. Even with the positive spin given to SIRI, if you don't research the stock you are giving it to people like me! ........OH, maybe you should stay in the market!
    2008 Aug 14 12:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    miljans you be new to the market so dats cool GO SIRIUS! but evryone b on diss board so long that ya'll be bichin you down so much and 90% and blaming TYLER when he is not to blame (blame it on ummmm i dunno but hes not to blame!) =)
    run blue dog run like my mama!
    2008 Aug 14 12:40 PM | Link | Reply
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    I maybe new to the market, but my average cost for my SIRI is only 1.68, cause I looked at the cap and figgered ain't worth 4 bucks - so didn't buy - even when the talk was a pop to 5 on the merger approval.
    2008 Aug 14 12:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    p.s. like your name KILAkaul
    2008 Aug 14 12:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    even though me boy TYLER pumped it at $4, dont be a blaming him ya'll! its everyone else fault on this board! tyler NOT to blame
    go blue dog mama!
    2008 Aug 14 12:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    milanjs, First, Sirius XM Radio currently reports 3.2 Billion shares outstanding with a Float of 3.1 Billion. That represents very roughly 100 Million shares restricted.

    Secondly, all shares related to the XM notes have been lent to JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley and UBS who are the institutions handling the offering for XM, a owned subsidiary of Sirius XM radio. The shares lent were priced at $1.50 / share to the institutions for resale concurrently when the notes are sold for what is referred to as "convertible arbitrage". Essentially this represents the buyers of the notes having the "option" to "Short" the underlying security, stock. This being a Private transaction available only to qualified institutions, the stock is not part of the company's "Float" or "EPS" metric. according to GAAP standards. The note converts at a rate of 1.87 per share if the note's owners wish to convert at maturity. The value of these shares will be the difference between the open market value and the 1.87 price paid. This is what makes them attractive along with the % rate paid to owners while they wait. The $1.87 represents roughly 534 shares of SIRI for every $1,000 invested in the notes. This also has nothing to do with the "Lent" Shares. The interest rate on the notes is paid twice per year, representing income to the note's owners during the period of maturity, and shows up as a part of interest expense on the company's 10Q and annual reports. These shares "Lent" are come back to Sirius XM on or about the same time the Notes mature, which is another reason they are not part of the "Float". Sirius XM Radio does not receive any monies from the transaction, $.001 / share from the institutions being lent the shares, a nominal one time fee.
    2008 Aug 14 12:55 PM | Link | Reply
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    nasdaq up big again today and blue dog mama up a peny run blue mama run!!
    2008 Aug 14 12:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    TYLER LOOK HOW HE IS TRYING TO DISS YOU MY BOY! WHAT DOES HE KNOW AFTER ALL NOT PICKING SIRIS AT $4 WHEN YOU DID;
    DO YOU HAVE HOT GOATEE LIKE TYLER HUH MILJANJS!? RUN BLUE MAMA RUN!
    miljanjs:
    I maybe new to the market, but my average cost for my SIRI is only 1.68, cause I looked at the cap and figgered ain't worth 4 bucks - so didn't buy - even when the talk was a pop to 5 on the merger approval.
    2008 Aug 14 01:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    I gotta go this guy posting as everyone else is annoying me to much to waste any more time here. Seeking Alpha needs to get its act together and stop these folks from misrepresenting themselves.
    2008 Aug 14 01:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    i love the disinfermation posted by cos1000 to confuse this board, dont worry ya'll stocks down huge, it much worse down on the farm run bluemama run!
    2008 Aug 14 01:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    Why don't all you guys just buy subscriptions to Sirius? The more numbers of subscribers the better. Im staring to put bumper stickers on my car and advertising for them for free! I own shares and obviously not doing well :(
    2008 Aug 14 01:32 PM | Link | Reply
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    How is Tyler Savery responsible when it was you that did no homework? Let me guess....You got in at $3 thinking there would be a pop at the merger and you would turn a buck or two a share. So you went on eTrade and bought some stock, you tracked your petty shares in your Yahoo portfolio, turned to this blog daily for merger news, then the merger came and nothing. Now, not knowing were to go since your down a ton, if you havent sold at a lost already, you decided to kick and scream around here.

    Tyler is a writer with an opinion. Thats it. He has no effect on the market, on the stock, or the management of the company. More importantly, he is not the owner of your portfoliio, you are. The only loser is the one who has nothing better to do than sit around here and type with the CAPS LOCK on. I know a few guys just like you. They are all lonely useless individuals.
    2008 Aug 14 02:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    Actually people can turn the audio off on the TV and listen
    to a good radio sportscaster on radio during the game.
    Besides who carrys a dish satelitte TV around with them
    when they are on the move. Receiving content while
    mobile just about anywhere and anytime is part of the idea here.
    2008 Aug 14 02:29 PM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler pumping a stick doesnt mean you should just go out and buy it. If you spent nearly as much time researching what you buy instead of kicking in screaming around here you wouldn't own SIRI.

    I didnt get F'd on anything. I bought a on more in the past 2 weeks. Im already making money on it.
    2008 Aug 14 03:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    This blog is turning into Invasion of the Morons and Whiners who proclaim they are speaking for everyone who's ever lost a buck in the market. Where have I ever posted anything but my opinion about what I see as being a good investment in this company, over time. Not one of you whiners has said anything about what YOUR research found. Not one of you have warned those you claim to represent in so much pain of your suspicions of this Stock's Price. As I said your a bunch of Morons and Whiners. SeriousPAIN, don't hide behind being a father to try and make you look smarter or more responsible. I just doesn't work that way.

    tylenol_sirius, your the fabricator of facts, you only true belief is in revisionist history.
    2008 Aug 14 03:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    i am not posting on this board anymore because anything associated with TYLER is bound to lose me fcking MONEY!!!! no intelligent or reputable guru strickens us with incredulous losses to the tune of almost 90 % so go anf fcuck yourselves and your rushing to his defense because we investors all see what a sham he really is!!!
    2008 Aug 14 03:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    Come on whiners, I got some time, where are you now? Have you ever read a company's 10-Q, 10-K, Prospectus? Or are are you too busy blaming everyone else for your own inept abilities to invest for your self? Go find a money manager who you can pay to think for you, whether he makes you money or not. Then you can whine an cry to him/her. I am not now nor have I ever been nor do I plan to be servant of or for Tyler Savery, Sirius Buzz, Seeking Alpha or anyone else. I stand here objectively on my own with a Heavy investment in Sirius Satellite Radio. There are those who certainly know more about this company but I am quite satisfied that the information that I provide is a true representation of what I believe and have researched about this company.

    That is not to say that I don't appreciated Tyler's work on keeping me informed about the latest news and goings on at Sirius. Because I do appreciate the information and detail provided. In doing MY OWN research I know how accurate it helpful it is.
    2008 Aug 14 03:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    tylenol_sirius, Good buy!!! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, but do pick up your mess, you left a pile for everyone else to clean up here. Buy the way do you know how stupid you sound when you write, "We Investors"
    2008 Aug 14 03:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    yea you APRRECIATE TYLERS WORK to the tune of a roughly 90 PERCENT LOSS you fcking MORON!!!! i am off this board, TYLER keeps changing his name to foment dissidents to we true investors who lost SO MUCH ON THIS INVESTMENT BECAUSE OF HIM!
    2008 Aug 14 03:47 PM | Link | Reply
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    First I want to correct by spelling of the word Buy to by above. Now I would just like to wish you, tylenol_sirius, Good Bye!!! I'm so glad that you decided to leave. Again, for you I will repeat, I AM NOT TYLER SAVERY. So please take you dilusional, parrenoid, thinking with you and have the very best of days in your newly padded cell. But wait, before you go, there's still this pile of .....dung that you left here to clean up.
    2008 Aug 14 04:09 PM | Link | Reply
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    Tylenol - If I were you, I would sell my trailer, sell the 386 you're typing this on, take the resulting $200 in proceeds and get back in the game.
    2008 Aug 14 04:17 PM | Link | Reply
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    tylenol_siri, I really must stop. Its not fair to Tyler for you to think that I am he. As much as this has been fun, the better side of me says that I cannot continue. It's unfair of me to take advantage of your ill feelings this way. I truly mean for you to just move on and have a good life. Take Got SIRI's advice and put her all down on "lucky #7"
    2008 Aug 14 04:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    holdon, point taken, and your absolutely right. Sorry for not being able to resist......I had tried to change the tone earlier in my post about the converts. Every time I tried to get out......The just pulled me back in. Ok, Ok, I'm done.
    2008 Aug 14 05:30 PM | Link | Reply
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    holdon, see what I mean?
    2008 Aug 14 05:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    I am somewhat new to this board and reading through these posts I would tend to be on cos 1000's side. Anyone that uses language in such a way as tylenol-sirius does would be considered by me and any other educated being on this planet as a pre-adolescent child. Children shouldnt be allowed to post anything on this board. Children should stay in facebook or other forms of messaging. Leave this board to the educated.
    2008 Aug 14 05:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    hey cos, can you imagine the whining this guy gonna do 3,4 yrs. from now if this thing reaches 20, 30 pps. wich is possible. its just a spec. stock right now. he has no clue, uhoh, better shut up , now im feeding.
    2008 Aug 14 05:45 PM | Link | Reply
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    holden, alue2u, LOL.........at those pps, I will be happily retired.
    2008 Aug 14 06:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    all kidding aside, the most critical year for this stock 2009. They do have a lot of debt refinancing that is coming due for both companies, but with them attaining positive cash flow before CapEx and increasing revenue from Ads, used car market, "in car" new car services, up selling of subscriptions to Best of Both, its tough to bet against them. Achieving goals in 2009 makes 2010 look a lot better. Every year their in the dashboard after that is profit. 2009 also has the launching of a satellite, fingers crossed, and lets hope their estimations for existing satellite reliability and life span are exceeded. Do I worry about these things, you bet cha....!!!
    2008 Aug 14 06:22 PM | Link | Reply
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    i have a gut feeling the best of both will be a real good suprise. if it was around 50% of subs. woulde'nt that be around 40,000,000mm a month@ 4.00 increase
    2008 Aug 14 06:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    that would be great and your using 20 mil subscribers as a base. Tyler ran a scenario using 1 mil, or a little over 5.4% at 18.5 mil subscribers and it came out to $48 mil a year vs. your projection of a little over 50% coming out to an added $480 mil a year. you can easily see how under projecting and outperforming could really do wonders for this company's bottom line.
    2008 Aug 14 06:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    yeh , that's what i like about mel , from what i've read about him, he under projects and outperforms. i think the" best of" will be a huge % of the subs. , for less than .15 cents a day they'll go for it. just my spec. on a spec.
    2008 Aug 14 07:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    holdon, you should take a look at SiriusBuzz.com, they have a feed where you can pick up most of these articles by Tyler S and Brandon M. a day before they show up here. On Thursdays, he has a talk show on Sirius Buzz Radio, picked up by: www.blogtalkradio.com/... You can call in or just sit back and listen to the rest of the folks discuss recent and upcoming company events.
    2008 Aug 14 07:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    thanx cos. i'll check it out. i'm new to siri , got in @ 1.52, averaged down a little the other day to 1.47 plan on more if/when the oppertunity occurs. i'm also new to tradeing/investing stocks, bout a year now. i've made a ton on realestate but that took many years. being an amature with stocks i've stayed away from stocks under 15.00 but when i looked at this one it seemed a bit special to say the least. willing to wait it out!
    2008 Aug 14 07:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Whether or not anyone agrees with Tyler, he has always seemed to have a pretty sober perspective, taking account of a fair sample of analysts covering the stock and giving some interesting information and opinions. I plan to keep reading and trying to work it out on my own.
    Long Sirius XM.
    2008 Aug 14 10:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hello guy's and gal's!! My first time post on this board and really would like to hear more about Sirius XM as i am a new comer to the stock market. Oh i did invest a lil dough into Siri at 1.40 today. Let me know something people as i'm learning more and more everyday.
    2008 Aug 14 11:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    hey walkdog, go to blogtalkradio.com/... cos. headed me up on this earlier. click on todays show, good stuff. i'm skeptical on spec. stocks but this one's a little different, looks like some sirius upside here fore those that have patience.
    pos. long sirixm
    2008 Aug 14 11:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    blogtalkradio.com/...
    2008 Aug 14 11:50 PM | Link | Reply
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    walkdog , don't know why it dosen't accept my full type, scroll up to cos's post and click on there.
    2008 Aug 14 11:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    Okay thnx holdon! Over the last month i was dedicating a couple hundred dollars here and there to ABK and bought most of it at 2.17 and sold today at 4.56 so i made a lil change there. Didn't feel comfortable with ABK but might look back into it in the future. Either way i spent everything on Siri at 1.40 and got 637 share's and am hoping to reach 2.50 here soon and i'll sell again only to reinvest in something else to up my profits here and there. I didn't do much research on Siri and hoping it won't bite me in the ass but i just assumed the merger between XM and Siri the stock would have to go up being they are the only 2 satellite radios out there. Like i said i'm new to all this and now doing alot of reading up on this stuff now.

    Thnx for the link i'll look for it.
    2008 Aug 15 12:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    wow, i saw abk when it came back down to 1.70 but did'ent have the guts to push the button , whithin a week , up to 5. oh well. good move there walkdog! i think with siri is a much different story, gonna take much longer, play it as an investment,not a trade, do your homework ,don't panic if it goes lower, the news after labor day could be good catylst to get it headed up...., to make the big $ its gonna take a couple years.... just my opinion.
    2008 Aug 15 12:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    yea that's what i'm reading into it. Yea i use etrade and well 12.99 for every transaction kinda sucks so i stick with things until i make a lil money at it. I'll keep my money here at Siri and keep watching here and other place's for Siri and try to stick it out as long as i can. My actual goal is for ABK to go back down to 2.17 or in the neighborhood and grab it up again as in sooner or later the housing market has got to rebound. Then again i might lean towards Chesapeak energy as in i live in East Texas where Chesapeak is at and working a new natural gas shale that is the biggest in the US. Then again i just don't know, i'm just too new to this.

    So do ya'll think Siri will spike up after labor day? If so what do ya'll think it will run up to?

    Eventually i want to go long term investment's but for right now "as a poor person" i'm trying to play the market and make a lil money here and there and build up till i get a certain amount of money. I will say this, since i started trading on etrade in July this is rather addicting and can see i had better watch myself.
    2008 Aug 15 01:04 AM | Link | Reply
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    Either way i think with Sirius going with more on sports is one of the biggest things. There are so many people, ie: truck driver's, people who work shift work that are sports fanatics that listen to sports on the radio and cannot watch it on tv the satellite radio will pick up soon.
    2008 Aug 15 01:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    killerDCIKFACE is talking about his MAMA- WHITE TRASH, tyler avatar he is; irrational apologist, senseless fool, insensitive bastrsd he is vis-a-vis legitimate investors on this board who suffered HEINOUS losses because of pumpkinHEAD TYLER!!!!
    2008 Aug 15 08:30 AM | Link | Reply
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    Had to take a nap while the infantile crybabies ranted and raved about Tyler - who just put out opinons. These fools just give the serious investors the profits we make in the market. I am new to the market, but before I put my hard earned cash in a stock I READ, RESEARCH AND READ SOME MORE. Now mind you, there are still MANY things I don't know and I am learning (thanks cos1000 - found how the shares increased), I still come to the table prepared - they don't and then blame some one else since they are too cowardly to admit that they were lazy and incompetent. SO GET OVER IT AND GET OFF THE BOARD unless you have something to add to the knowledge base.

    And thanks to the contributors who take this seriously and help us (especially me) understand the complexities of this market.
    2008 Aug 15 09:36 AM | Link | Reply
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    What's the matter screw loose whiiiiiiiiiiiiner? Did I hit a nerve? ..................hmmm...
    2008 Aug 15 10:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    milanjs.............. glad to have you aboard. You will find no better advice and information, than from Tyler, Cos1000, and 163888. ................ Cos. is 163888 on vacation, I miss his input.
    2008 Aug 15 10:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, No I think Alpha took him off for the VicDave postings. I guess they thought it was a distraction. I communicating with him on Sirius Buzz and he told me the story. I miss his analysis here, especially during these critical months, with this company moving forward. Hopefully Seeking Alpha will see the "ERROR OF THEIR WAYS" and reinstate his posting abilities. I hate CENSORSHIP.
    2008 Aug 19 10:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Walkdog - Scottrade is 7 bucks a trade , and i have used them for a few years now ...no problems .....and yes , be careful with this day trading , and for damn sure be very careful margin trading , that can turn into a nightmare real quick ......I also live in texas , near Ft Worth , and gas wells going up everywhere ....but I don't know if Chesepeake is not already priced up , and I do know they are spending a lot of money .....I am sure CHK will probably go up some , but at 46.00 already it might be a long time before any big returns .....anyway , be careful out there , i started out just planning to invest a little here and there , and now I am up to my ass in Siri shares @ 3.90 .....so just take it easy , and definately watch out for that temptation to buy a shitload on margin ........I am doing ok now , but a couple of months ago I started getting some margin calls and barely had the funds ....but I squeeked by and got the hell out of that mess ....doing ok now , and if Siri will do some magic , then i am good to go .......and watch out for those "analysts" ......remember , to Wall Street , we are fodder for the taking .....the big boys are slick and fast
    2008 Aug 19 11:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thnx shure46 for the input, but Scottrade had to have a minimum amount of money to start an account, i believe $500 is what it was, so i went with etrade as in they didn't require a minimum amount. I will say after some short trading with a small amount of money i've managed to make around $300 - 400 dollars and what i have put in my account now is sitting around a grand within in the six week's of me trading first time so i haven't done too bad. I'm assuming CHK is gonna be a long run investment just like a couple more i'm looking at which is LNG. LNG i actually visited while fishing outside the plant and camped next to several of it's employee's and listen to them talk and once they get out of dept of building the new plant i expect them to go up. I'm betting even on my very and say very inexperienced self in the stock market that this time next year SIRI will be up around $5 a share and the next year i bet it's around $10 if not more on either so stick it out.

    I'm addicted to this trading stuff and i'm only allowed around $200 a month to play around and just started around July 1st..............is there a STOCK MARKET ADDICTION GROUP............. LOL
    2008 Aug 21 01:17 AM | Link | Reply
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    Walkdog - it sounds like you are doing good .....just remember it is just as easy to lose 500 as it is to make 500 ......the trick is to always make sure you have enough money to live on ....that way you are never " forced " to sell if your stock goes way down ....you can wait it out ......that's what I am doing with Siri right now .....just waiting it out .....hoping that the world doesn't explode into WWIII for at least another two years so i can make a few bucks first !!!!!!!
    2008 Aug 21 03:14 PM | Link | Reply