Is Apple a Better Stock Than Google? 23 comments
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As John Paczkowski at All Things Digital has noted, Apple’s (AAPL) market capitalization passed Google’s (GOOG) yesterday, closing at $158.8-billion to Google’s $157.2-billion (as Senator Everett Dirksen is reported to have said, “a billion here and a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money”).
Of course, as my friend Paul Kedrosky notes, Apple’s market value has eclipsed Google’s (albeit briefly) several times in the past year. Will this one last? Google’s business is arguably under more pressure as a result of the weaker U.S. economy and advertising market, but then Apple could always stumble (yes, friends, it could happen).
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It’s become so commonplace now to think of Apple as a consumer products star — given the success of the iPod, iTunes and the iPhone — that I think we sometimes forget how far this company has come in just the past four or five years. Google has grown a phenomenal amount in that same span of time, with a share price that has increased five-fold, going from $100 to the current $500 level, and revenues that are now at $20-billion.
Apple, however, makes Google’s growth look almost anemic by comparison: its shares have grown 10-fold, from about $16 to more than $170 at their current level, and revenue is at $30-billion.
So who makes for a better bet? If you’re looking for growth prospects, you could argue that Apple has better odds, simply because it is still a relatively small player in the PC market and the iPhone is just getting started as a consumer product. Google, meanwhile, already dominates the online search-related advertising market to the point where huge amounts of future growth could be difficult — and so far none of its side projects are really paying off that well.
From a stock point of view, Apple’s shares are trading at higher multiples than Google’s in most cases (price/earnings ratio, price to book value, etc.) but Google’s profitability exceeds Apple’s, with a profit margin of 25 per cent to Apple’s 15 per cent, and an operating margin of 30 per cent to Apple’s 19 per cent. Apple has more cash on hand, with $20-billion — administered through a special in-house investment fund based in Nevada, someone told me recently — while Google only has about $13-billion (only!), but a bunch of money sitting around isn’t really worth all that much from an investment point of view.
In the end, it comes down to who you think has the best chance for growth: the king of online search and online advertising, or the company that has managed to transfer its legendary coolness factor and design sense from computers to digital music players and now cellphones?
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At their current rate of marketshare growth, Apple could rival Microsoft in desktop share in 18 months. And Microsoft has NOTHING in the cellphone, MP3 player, internet music/video/NOW SOFTWARE!, or RETAIL segment.
Google is a great internet company, but I agree that they are a 'one trick pony' (good trick though) and pretty settled at this main job of internet search. I think Google documents is excellent but I don't see how they will market it besides using advertising (which may be enough, but won't yield the cash MS has milked from Office all these years. Google keeps talking about the gPhone, but I think it will be a huge failure compared to the iPhone which will practically own the market for smartphones by the time the gPhones start to come out. And from the looks of it, the gPhone will be a clunker of a device, next to an iPhone. Music is very important to so many people--who doesn't want iTunes integration with their phone or MP3 player? We shall see.
Mostly, I am glad that Google and Apple get along so well, they both support open standards, and cooperate on many projects.
Looking forward, they both have tremendous growth potential internationally, hence the high P/E. Perhaps Google has less growth potential, but it also has less competition and better margins. Google has a more attractive PEG ratio.
Instead of this inane debate, why not own both stocks? There are not many companies right now that even have foreseeable growth potential!
I read lot of time that Android gonna help Google to enlarge their revenues and avoid the crash on PC market advertising but I really dont know how. Android is freesource anybody can use it. Google can advertise yet on Iphone. So I' m lost... Or Google is lost...
What about cash flow? You don't mention that at least half of iPhone revenues are deferred to later FYs, which means that earnings aren't fully reflective of profitability.
"...a bunch of money sitting around isn’t really worth all that much from an investment point of view."
I'm sure Warren Buffett would be interested to learn this.
They are a very talented bunch, but don't have any vision for where to take us in the future. They have no culture of developing and shipping tight, complicated products that people want to use (they're all about throwing stuff out there and seeing what sticks).
Everyone assumed they were "a high-tech company's high-tech company". Maybe (and it's not necessarily a bad thing) they are the 21st century's first blue-chip. A Yellow Pages for the next several generations.
Apple on the other hand has the vision, talent, IP, and track record for shipping the kinds of products the world wants. They consistently add new product lines that bolster each other and creating cohesive systems. More and more they are building products and systems that cannot be duplicated because they span a unique collection of fields that no one else has competencies in (hardware, software, OS, media, retail, servers, online sales, content delivery, wireless, user interface, industrial design, consumer marketing). These are the raw ingredients it will take to build the high-tech consumer products of the 21st century.
They also know how to sell their ideas to the public. And they know enough to put margins before volume.
I don't see any of that changing any time soon.
Cylinder is, of course, a metaphor for Line of Business
Ads on internet are close to be unsurpotable. If Android is use to increase that. Who gonna want an Android phone? Doesn't look good for Google.
sorry to change the subject,but I know you young guys will steer me right..
Wait about 30 days. In mid-September is is expected that Apple will reenergize its laptop lines (consumer and "professional"). A laptop from either line will eliminate your need for two computers.
Apparently, you already have a monitor. You can use your laptop as your CPU when you are at home. And, then disconnect it from the monitor and take it traveling with you.
Currently, the MacBook line (consumer) of laptops can power a 24-inch monitor, while the MacBook Pro line can power a 30-inch monitor.
Either can work with a wireless (or wired) mouse and keyboard. Both lines are powerful enough to replace your MacMini.
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In my mind (hopefully in the real world too) Apple's future is pretty darn certain. Though it scares me that Jobs is so much associated with the company's success. Anyway, I think the greater certaintly of Apple is reflected in the higher valuation (by some measures) relative to Google.
I see Google as much more in uncharted waters. I went into the stock knowing that. In return, valuation is a bit better (again by some measures).
One thing for certain, a lot of companies are gunning for both Apple and Google just because they are so successful. Maybe a good question is, "Which can maintain their competitive edge longer", because that is probably the better stock to own.
Either way both stocks are solid. But if you're looking for growth, I choose Apple.
My 2 cents: I love both AAPL and GOOG but both stocks should be handled with care. Both companies could see their earnings rise significantly over the next five years but if growth starts to decelerate multiples will compress and the stocks will go nowhere. Compare Apple and Google's valuation with Microsoft's. Also, Apple's anemic R&D spending is troubling (but it certainly hasn't done Microsoft any good!)
MC FCF MC/FCF R&D
MSFT 254,826 18,430 13.8 8,164
AAPL 158,075 6,104 25.9 1,018
GOOG 157,233 4,101 62.1 2,534
(data from Morningstar)