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I recently had lunch with a top U.S  Department of Energy executive.  He’s “in charge” of half the world - mostly the half that exports oil.  This very charming individual was unable to define what the present U.S. energy policy is.  

I suppose he understands, but cannot admit publicly, that our policy under the present nitwit administration is to give oil companies and oil supply companies, e.g. Halliburton, everything they want - tax breaks, drilling rights, lack of oversight - and to give the 44 farm-state senators a mandate for turning corn into ethanol, which produces little if any net new energy.  In other words, our policy is to maintain our dependence on the internal combustion engine.

Voters - as we know because all the candidates are talking energy- clearly see the cost of oil dependence and want a new direction and a truly useful energy policy.   But it’s been hard to be optimistic that we will get one because the executive branch is controlled by the oil industry and the legislative branch is so gridlocked and clueless that they have so far only come up with such harebrained schemes as suing OPEC or drilling for oil off the OCS or in ANWR or providing huge mandates and subsidies for ethanol.  These may be “get re-elected” policies, but they do not solve our oil dependency.

But now the Russian invasion of Georgia gives me a new sense of optimism.  It makes crystal clear the fact that the control of vast amounts of oil by dangerous governments means that OECD societies which must have that oil are powerless to resolve potentially war-and-peace sorts of international disputes - other than to give up.  We’ve heard it said before in respect of Middle Eastern countries and Venezuela that our oil policies are only empowering our enemies.  But Russia’s aggression in Georgia creates a new and much more tangible danger that could motivate us to move toward the security that energy independence offers. 

The Russians are making it clear even to the average American that oil is putting us at great risk.  We cannot envision NATO coming to the military aid of Georgia against a continuing Russian invasion and potentially a take-over of Georgia.  Similarly we cannot envision NATO taking action against a Russian takeover of Ukraine or the Baltics or any other target the Russians may find attractive down the road.

The reason NATO is feckless, obviously, is that most if not all NATO countries must have Russia’s oil and gas exports.  How can you go to war against a country you depend upon to supply you with the energy life support system you require?  It is a contradiction in terms - sort of like going to war against your own body.  This is such a clearly unacceptable global posture for the OECD that it must be changed.  To do so will require a real energy policy.

The policy the U.S. - and our OECD allies - must adopt is very simple.  We must free our transportation system from its use of oil. 

In the U.S. we have enormous quantities of unconventional domestic natural gas that can help us transition our transportation system from oil. Compressed natural gas, CNG, can substitute for gasoline more quickly than electricity can, especially for truck fleets.  The trucking industry should have tax incentives to switch to natural gas.  We should require that over time gas stations in urban areas also offer CNG.  We should also encourage cars to be “flex fuel” so they can use  “CNG,” as Brazil has been doing for years thanks to a government mandate.  (And which cars are built in Brazil by U.S. car companies.)

But electricity, not CNG , is the longer term solution. We must mandate that by a certain date all new cars be plug-in hybrid electrics “PHEV’s.”  In the interim we must offer tax rebates for PHEV purchase and tax the purchase of non-PHEV’s.   Those tax incentives should increase over time.  Right now the battery costs of PHEV’s is excessive.  That is why tax policies are needed to make them our standard.

If the U.S. moves aggressively toward PHEV’s such cars will become a global standard. Other OECD countries and even developing countries will see PHEV’s as the future and will move toward them as well.  A PHEV still uses some gasoline - but the amount can be minimal.  A car that is only driven locally - which is a huge percent of U.S. cars and an even larger percent in more densely populated countries - may use only electricity, depending on the size of the battery and the distance driven.   With cars using PHEV’s and trucks using natural gas, there is enough fossil fuels to eliminate any energy emergency. 

A transition away from gasoline will virtually bankrupt our Highway Trust Fund which gets its money from gasoline taxes.  Therefore we must tax freight that moves by truck to fund highways.   That tax will also make it clear that over time we are going to transition to electric powered trains for freight and as much as possible away from trucks - even ones that run on natural gas.  To that end we should also offer incentives to electrify our railroads and to build more rail transport in our densely populated areas.

Such policies don’t offer an immediate fix.  It will take at least a decade to achieve a significant reduction in oil use by cars and trucks and then another decade to virtually eliminate it.  But the adoption of such policies will tell the Russians that their game is only temporary.  When they see that the West is starting to move away from oil with a serious determination, they will not want to make oil even more expensive. Oil is the basis of their wealth and they will try to make it more attractive.  They will become more cooperative. 

The vision of an oil-free future will also let the U.S. go forward with optimism, which makes all the difference to economic vitality.  Optimism is essential for growth. 

The policies I am suggesting will create losers so they present steep political costs.  But the fear that otherwise we are committing ourselves to a national defense nightmare vis-a-vis Russia - in addition to the other very substantial balance of trade risks and costs of oil dependency - could give our government the backbone it needs to finally move us forward away from oil. 

We’ll never get there by yelling “climate change.”   But we can possibly get there by yelling “The Russians Are Coming.”   In fact the reality is that the Russians may very well be coming, as we now see in Georgia, if we don’t cut off our dependence on oil and therefore on Russia.        

Will there be enough electricity?  I think so.  For one thing, most electrical “re-fueling” will take place at night when there are huge existing surpluses of electrical supply right now.  For another, we’ll be transitioning to LED lighting which will save about 15% of our electrical use.  Yes, we will need some additional capacity over time and will probably need policies to promote renewable solar, wind, local geothermal, and wave.  Such technologies are available now.  They will become much less expensive over the next five years.

A major side benefit of this new energy/national defense policy would be a renaissance for the U.S. economy.  We would produce so many new jobs in the battery and automotive and rail transport and renewable electricity generation industries  that we would see another American economic miracle.  That is one of the benefits that would motivate other countries to join with us and adopt similar policies. 

Interestingly, in the process of moving deliberately away from oil we would also solve the climate change problem.  Without even trying. 

Will it happen?  With the right new leadership and a continuation of Russia overplaying its hand…there is hope now.   But I still wouldn’t bet money on it yet.

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    Russia did a good game, invade Georgia to get the heart of gas and oil supply network to Europe, in the middle of a bankrupt USA with a lot of finantial problems, in the middle of election year, in the middle of an unclear stand about Irak, Afganistan and Iran, etc, etc. and there is not a thing that we can do, worry about our own debt and finantial survival at the moment. So it is time to get our act together and dump dark age fossil fuel and change to new age technology electrical, hydrogen-water at least to drive our cars to work. And Ford and GM stop lobbying and bribing the congress to get cheaper oil on the way, you are leading this nation to dust, get your grip on new age technology and stop acting pueril.
    2008 Aug 18 01:57 PM | Link | Reply
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    The author is long energy,I don't believe somebody with ties to US goverment believes in clean new technology nanotech junk,buy Oil today as 113$ a barrel sell it at 125-130 then wait.
    Oil is here forever,government can not and will not do anything about it,it all started more than 100 years ago and no one can change it,look at daily (1 minute) CL chart today,it shows how big traders want to have enough shorts that will cover it all in 1-2 weeks.
    I day trade Oil/Nat Gas,have no long term opinion on it,I see reality and try to adjust to it with my trading,if reality will change I will adjust to that too.Atthe moment Oil looks as a good buy.
    2008 Aug 18 02:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    It would be nice to have a "futuristic" article about energy that had some numbers with it. For instance, how much solar energy hits the earth, conversion efficiencies, wind power requirements, land requirements, etc. Otherwise you're just talking pie in the sky.
    2008 Aug 18 02:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    The time is not now. It was about 20 years ago. The USA needs, as the author suggests, to quit politicking and actually do something and it really doesn't matter what! Having said that, please let's stop believing this "drill now" mantra. The last project I was involved with took 4 years from "let's drill" to seeing oil flow through a pipe. So we are going to see a shortage over the next few years that will not be to our liking. The combination of all the various solar and bio methods will make a difference, perhaps enough to dump Chavez as a supplier for example.

    In the heavy emphasis on electricity, this topic is a bit light on nuclear power, i.e. not even mentioned so far. Meanwhile, we read that France - a somewhat more forward-looking country than one we could mention - gets 70% of it's electricity from nuclear.

    Sad, isn't it?

    xpat
    2008 Aug 18 04:14 PM | Link | Reply
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    AlexS,

    Google and ye shall find!

    Just to get you started, Sun straight down gives about 1200W/sq.meter and PV solar cells run about 29% efficient and the necessary inverter to make 120 AC from battery power is maybe 75%. Of course, said sunlight is free, so it's the capital and operating costs that'll get ya ;-)

    More Googling will tell you that too!

    TTFN.

    Perhaps others can fill in the gaps.
    2008 Aug 18 04:25 PM | Link | Reply
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    "The reason NATO is feckless, obviously, is that most if not all NATO countries must have Russia’s oil and gas exports"
    With all my respect the major reason why NATO is "feckless" is obviously the simple fact that Russia is a nuclear superpower. It means Russia can literally annihilate NATO in a few hours with it huge nuke arsenal.
    Also, I was disappointed to find on this board the same cheap dirty anti-Russian propaganda we can see on CNN, Fox News or AP about Russian-Georgian conflict.
    The beauty of Seeking Alpha is its authors usually much smarter and more independent thinkers than their colleagues from mainstream "independent" mass-media.
    Unfortunately, it seems to me the author of this article used cheap mass-marked CNN as a source of info about Russia-Georgia conflict instead of less hysterical and more intelligent sources like, say, Christian Science Monitor, The Economist, Time Magazine, Guardian, Times, etc.
    And the last but not least.
    If Russia wanted to "putting us at great risk", as author claims, it would have disrupted or at least approached major pipelines in Georgia. Russians didn't do that although they easily could do that and push oil prices to stratosphere. They didn't do that because I guess they wanted to send a signal to the West: "Guys, we play according to the rules. We don't fight YOU! We only fight your reckless bloody puppet that forgot how to behave yourself".
    They didn't even overthrow Saakashvili, despite of his hysterical complains translated by American mass-medias, as Americans did with Saddam.
    I'd suggest author to clear his brains from Cold War prejudice and stop seeing Russians as enemies. Prejudice, fear and hate are bad allies of analytical brains!
    2008 Aug 18 04:33 PM | Link | Reply
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    I like the Chevy Volt car concept better that a pure plug-in car PHEV because it gets you mileage and independence of finding a socket (try to find a socket for your lap top on an airport). Reloading is associated with long reloading and waiting times. The plug in cable is not long and the battery is not large enough to let you drive a 300 mile radius. Flexibility, ease of operation and mileage are prime conditions for wide acceptance. I understand the Volt has a primary electro motor for driving, feeding off a battery. The battery is backed up by a combustion motor with a generator to reload the battery, if you have to. You can reload while you are driving and get at least the mileage of a Prius.
    I heard rumours of 100 mpg. No, that can't be true, doesn't it? Downside again two drives necessary, a small tank for fuel and a small trunk?
    2008 Aug 18 06:54 PM | Link | Reply
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    I always appreciate Jim's articles. A few comments, however. There aren't going to be any battery-powered Peterbilts or Dreamliners or D9s. Nat gas is a viable option for taxis and buses, like Boone Pickens says, but those are light duty fleets in an urban setting.

    The bottom line geopolitically is that the US stands alone (again), No point in relying on Europe or NATO. Sad to say, there is only one cure for American weakness: to cut the size of government in half, wind down the entitlement scams, bring the troops home. I do not expect it to happen. Pretty bleak outlook.
    2008 Aug 18 07:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Quick estimate what kind of sunroof it takes to power my 180 hp Explorer:

    Assume 0.76 kW/hp
    Sun is shining 60 deg on suncollector, efficiency following cosinus function cos (90-60) deg = cos (30 deg) = 0.866
    1200 KW /m2
    Sun/Power Conversion Efficiency 27 %
    Inverter efficiency 75 %
    Electro Motor efficiency 90 %.


    Here we go

    180 hp * 0.76 kW/ hp
    ----------------------... = 722 m2
    (1.2 kW/ m2 * 0.27 * 0.75 * 0.90 * 0.866)

    The sunroof is then 722 m2 * 11 ft2/ m2 ~ 7.945 ft2, just about the area of my lot at home. So, I am sitting in the dark, while my car is being fueled. This assumes the sun is shining of course.

    Can we stop this please.
    2008 Aug 18 07:53 PM | Link | Reply
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    Plan B3.0 "Mobilizing to Save Civilization" by Lester R. Brown of the Earth Policy Institute (published by W.W.Norton & Co. addresses the subject of energy in:
    Part I. Chaper 2. Deteriorating Oil and Food Security
    Part II. Chapter 11 Raising Energy Efficiency, and
    Part II. Chapter 12 Turning to Renewable Energy
    As an investor (since early '60s) I've found this resource very
    informative (and exceptionally well documented). I recommend
    that everyone read at least the chapters mentioned above, to get a grasp of where we are, where we will likely be in a few years, and
    what can be done by individuals, corporations and governments
    to change the trends and not-so-pleasant predictions.
    2008 Aug 18 09:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    In other words, our policy is to maintain our dependence on the internal combustion engine.

    It would be a set up for a hilarious "Peter Sellers" comedy if it wasn't destroying this economy.
    2008 Aug 18 10:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    Here is a number...$700 billion for foriegn oil. Its called research boys. Gas engines used to have a hundred times less efficiency per horsepower than today. If the gov't would subsidize solar instead of making us buy their oil, solar efficiency would increase big time.

    Anyone think the pickens plan will get us there??

    2008 Aug 19 12:10 AM | Link | Reply
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    yes electrify the railroads.
    > jack
    2008 Aug 19 08:27 AM | Link | Reply
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    Complete, total and utter nonsense!

    This is PRECISELY why we can't afford to have the Green Menace in charge of our energy future!

    Fewer supplies and higher prices ahead!

    And they LOVE it!
    2008 Aug 19 09:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Oh, someday we're going to have centralized solar electricity, electrify all our vehicles and highways, grass in our gas tanks, and pay for it all with trillions of dollars of new taxes on carbon. God will come down and bless them and call us Good.

    Meanwhile, back here on Earth gas is almost $4 a gallon, people have to take out loans to heat their homes this winter, and max out their credit cards to get to work. Not to mention the wars being fought all over the planet for increasingly scarce energy supplies.

    (If you detect a sarcastic disconnect here, I can assure you it was intentional!)
    2008 Aug 19 09:18 AM | Link | Reply
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    If you really thing the Department of Energy has a policy or understands energy then I know you are a lost soul.

    They do very little with a very small budget.
    2008 Aug 19 09:25 AM | Link | Reply
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    And, Jack, no offense, but if you tell me we should electrify the RR's (much less the highways) one more time, I could just "Scream!" We've BEEN electrifying mass transit for the PAST CENTURY. And right now the status of federal regulation and accompanying litigation is such that you couldn't electrify a light bulb for 10 years. That is, even if you had the electric capacity, which we DON'T!
    2008 Aug 19 09:26 AM | Link | Reply
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    I will say this, though. It is TRULY remarkable how well electrified transport works. Can you imagine, the bulk of these systems were put in place more than 60 years ago. And with minimal (unionized!) maintenance, they work as well as the day they were new.

    Once upon a time, then, we must have had excellent engineering and construction skills. And sensible regulations that enabled us to actually build the stuff on time and at a reasonable cost. But no longer, I can assure you.
    2008 Aug 19 09:43 AM | Link | Reply
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    why do you believe Russia to be overplaying it's hand any more than the USA has been overplaying its for 50 years? who placed missiles in the Shah's Iran in the late 50's? who violently protested the similar action by Russia via Cuba in early 60s? who is driving NATO/EU to recruit Russia's historical protective buffer countries? who wishes to place missiles in Poland now? these later two actions consistently protested by Russia, and consistently ignore by USA. in international politics, you get what give--nothing new there.

    many of the items you suggest should be considered in formulating a USA policy/plan, which we desperately need. but such a plan/strategy would be fortunate to satisfy our needs in the northern part of our hemisphere. our leverage in this new economic/natural resource starved world is limited to our own needs/resolutions. the EU and other OECD nations must act on their own solutions. these nations together with others[African, Mid East, Asia] will deal with Russia as they choose. Russia will succeed/fail on their own world rlationships.

    as a side note-- the highway trust fund is bankrupt, just as is the SSA trustfund. with the fungable unified budget, who knows which expense causes the yearly $billions shortfall debt and the total $trillions of debt we leave our childrenover their lifetimes?
    2008 Aug 19 09:55 AM | Link | Reply
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    You're right, Fran. And that's EXACTLY what these new proposed so-called carbon taxes are all about. They have nothing to do with air quality. The politicians have simply spent ALL our money they could beg or borrow for the next several generations, and are desperately in search of MORE!
    2008 Aug 19 10:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    As regards Russia, while the loss of life is regrettable, it's good to see the Bear on the move again. The rest of the world will be forced to choose up sides once more, and we'll have more new friends than we know what to do with. Go, Ruskies!
    2008 Aug 19 10:07 AM | Link | Reply
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    A company that produces CNG gas tanks for autos & trucks...is building service.gas stations..has purchased 80% of it's CNG suppliers... designs,implements all aspects... will be in 2 large population cities on the cutting edge.... SNE in China,,,,lead by example???
    2008 Aug 19 10:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    THANKS for the tip!
    2008 Aug 19 11:01 AM | Link | Reply
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    Maybe we can get them to build them here.
    2008 Aug 19 11:02 AM | Link | Reply
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    LAALOPALOM--

    better alternative--china natural gas[CHNG.OB]
    2008 Aug 19 11:34 AM | Link | Reply
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    AlexS,

    If you want something resembling numbers go & read John Ryden at www.examiner.com/x-325...

    He wrote an article here some months ago on Oshkosh Truck's new electric drive truck and the ultra-capacitor technology the trucks have. He analyzed the energy plans of both candidates with numbers and finds they are long on promise but short on delivery.
    2008 Aug 19 11:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    Consider the effect of urban sprawl upon the demand for energy.
    As long as it takes 45 minutes to an hour to commute to/from work,
    there will be an excessive demand for energy.

    What are the forces that drive urban sprawl? One is the desire for
    our children to attend "better" schools. That, to me, implies there
    is more than ample "racism" (racial discrimination). Or should I
    call it "values discrimination".

    If we can't/won't stop urban sprawl, we won't get control of our
    excessive use of energy. Thirty minutes to drive to a hardware
    store (WalMart) because all the mom&pop hardware stores have been driven out of business! Absurd, but true.

    WalMart accomodates the principle of urban sprawl by having every
    thing one "needs" in one central location. Perhaps we need vertical
    residential communities sitting atop of a groundfloor WalMart. The lower floors would be for the "undesirables" with the uppermost
    floors reserved for the wealthy. Schools would be online.
    2008 Aug 19 12:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    Jim - MY HERO!

    You are the first official SA Editor publishing my mantra (instead of Kudlow's, et.al).

    Now, to beat your timeline, let's have a Manhattan Project or Moon Shot emphasis, be it from Boone and Warren or "I can't believe it" DC; we've already got a portion of Gore.
    2008 Aug 19 01:18 PM | Link | Reply
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    So exactly HOW IS IT Walmart wastes transport energy by having everything in ONE PLACE...???
    2008 Aug 19 01:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    Danny, the schools are horrible because of political correctness. The main policy of the public school systems is to make sure that it is color blind but damn the results. The results from urban public schools are political correctness gone mad (liberalism is a disease!). In those same ubran settings, private schools are filling the gap and producing A+ students who go on to college and have a better life. Political correctness is only harming the individuals without options (i.e., money).
    2008 Aug 19 01:22 PM | Link | Reply
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    Gordon - My second HERO for the day. Way to go pure-electric!
    2008 Aug 19 01:27 PM | Link | Reply
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    And PAUL, you are finally coming around to why we need a Manhattan Project empahsis and mentality - it is focused and determined and real and here and now (being 5-10 years).

    It only takes GE and Warren to electrify the railroads; and as you say, we only have to go BACK in time to put in electrified trolleys.
    2008 Aug 19 01:31 PM | Link | Reply
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    Some of you are a bunch of Dr. Spocks; afraid to tell your kids no and to change their behavoir with a good swat.

    Stop the popcicle treat gimmicks of government (like carbon credits, tax credits, r&D deducts etc., and just go make the changes required - stop the camaflauge).

    We need a few of "the buck stops here" Trumans, and Pattons, and Boones.
    2008 Aug 19 01:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Act like a Russian (but be right).
    2008 Aug 19 01:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    Mayabe even a Macarthur.
    2008 Aug 19 01:44 PM | Link | Reply
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    NJB,

    Seems like we've got a couple of good threads going here...

    No, I'm not adverse to a Manhattan-style energy project on its face. But I haven't seen a PLAN yet that could lead to discernible results.
    One thing about the invention of electricity, driving, flying, bridge building, bomb making, interstate highways, going to the moon, and computers, et al, is they ALL had a singular objective in mind and specific way to get there.

    No one's even decided what KINDS of energy would be best, much less figured out HOW to make them work efficiently. If they made one of us King, we could build enough reactors in a few years while we electrified public transit concurrently. We could scrap corn tomorrow and replace it with sugar. (I don't know, but I think I just told you why none of that can be done presently.)

    Boone's the closest thing we've got. He has a specific PLAN, and he knows EXACTLY how to make it happen. God bless him!
    2008 Aug 19 02:20 PM | Link | Reply
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    Go Boone!

    AndI I like the the concept "GRASS TANKS".

    Along with "ELECTRIFIED RAILS".

    And "ELECTRIFIED INTER/INTRASTATE FERRIES".

    "BULK ELECTRIC STORAGE".

    They all fit so well with SOALR AND WIND FARMS.

    And make so much more sense than "DRILL, DRILL, DRILL" - DUH!!!

    And beyond "BURN, BURN, BURN".

    And I'm not a greenie.....

    All anyone has to do is look at France (their nucs), Germany, Switzerland, Holland, Brazil, ETC., for energy LEADERSHIP that leads to INDEPENDENCE; or we can continue to accept our lack of LEADERSHIP (and be DEPENDENT ON BURING, BURNING, BURNING OIL, GAS, DIESEL, COAL AND NG, IN THE ICE).
    2008 Aug 19 03:59 PM | Link | Reply
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    It is disturbing to see the direct investments by the Pelosi family into T. Boone's gambits. Why do they need taxpayer money if the plan is so strong? Why do we need to create Nat Gas light trucks? Because Pickens and Pelosi say so to line there own pocketbooks? If this happens, expect Pelosi to be removed from office. I will spend quite a bit of effort to ensure it happens and I am sure I am not alone. I am a bit fed up with the complete manipulated free market. Ass kissing to some moonbat for my insider information doesn't sit well with me. Now all of a sudden that "dirty coal" that rotten Congress people I am mentioning now see coal as "clean coal" technology? Some things never change. Tsk tsk.


    Yes, plug in electrics! Nuke plants are coming, we know that one is more or less a given. Love biodeisel and liquified coal as well. We have 500 B tons of coal, enough for 100 years of deisel of the trucking industry , railways and you can tax that for road repairs.

    Hydrogen appears to be 60,000 total vehicles on the road by 2012. Batteries are still a problem but I see more experiences posters here on that subject. I expect a guy in a garage tinkering figures it out (at least that sounds nice to have happen).

    The American autos will stage there come backs on electric vehicles. Assume investing in cables and power regulator couplings or the like will probably be the best investment out of all the alternatives in 2012 for the several years.



    2008 Aug 19 07:35 PM | Link | Reply
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    I have no problem with Pickens. He is a raw, naked capatalist that knows how to sell. What it not kosher is legislating into thy own pocket partnership with big business that has recently destroyed the financial markets. 800 people all skiing behind yachts is getting a bit much LOL.
    2008 Aug 19 07:39 PM | Link | Reply
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    Think big; anything to get Pelosi out of office.

    We might as well feed Boone who will do something worthwhile vis-a-vis feeding all the others...................

    We don't need to do the natural gas vehicles, except it will be the transition away from oil/gasoline, while we go warps-speed for the alternatives hybrids with solid state waste heat recovery to electric (SS-WHRe)

    And biofuel hybrids with solid-state direct coversion of waste heat to electric drives will be the final answer.

    The onboard storage device will be a GRASS TANK! Filled at the pumps the way we do gasoline/diesel/ethano... today. No battery, no H2, no LPG or CNG, no liquifaction/gasificat... of coal (add effort and energy to then burn them?? = duh!).

    Careful who you talk to in DC, they may do what you ask.

    Think bigger...................
    2008 Aug 19 08:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    And the GRASS TANK HYBRID engine will not be an engine! It will be a CAN; A CONTAINER; WITH NO MOVING PARTS; WITH A BIOFUEL INJECTOR; ENCAPSULATED WITH SOILD STATE DEVICES TO CONVERT WASTE HEAT DIRECTLY TO ELECTRICITY AS DEMANDED BY THE ELECTRIC MOTOR (THE 'gas pedal").
    2008 Aug 19 08:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thinkbig - when I suggest the GRASS TANK HYBRID WITH SS-WHRe using a biofuel injector into a container with no moving parts, directly feeding the electric motor without engine, transmission, rearend, storage device, while using nearly 100% of the energy in the fuel (which immediately yields a 70% REDUCTION IN HYDROCARBONS), has to absolutely scare the hell out of Detroit to Houston and all the industries associated with exploration, drilling, mining, extraction, remediation, enriornmental, regulation, engines, transmissions, etc. All the employed folks will have to line up behind the biofuel industry and the electrify-the-new-Amer... industries - as the farmers are already equipped to farm more land and get a different kind of payment for it. Oh Happy Days......
    2008 Aug 19 09:03 PM | Link | Reply
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    And furthermore, if one concerns himself with all the money oil, gas, coal, industries, etc., have as assets on the books; well, duh; I make poor investments all the time; and no one bales me out.
    2008 Aug 19 10:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    that's bails......
    2008 Aug 19 10:38 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks Jim. The US has fallen so behind Europe when it comes to transportation. Europe has been using smaller vehicles for many moons now and they have TGV trains. The US train system is a disaster! What's happened to the so-called most powerful country in the world? We have been too involved in wars and are now paying the price. And even looking to start another war or two. Gridlock in Congress is another thing preventing the energy bill from being passed. If the US doesn't change its ways soon, we are no longer going to be that SuperPower we once were. People in US are complaining they don't want electric wires running through their land and they think the Wind turbines are an eye sore. Just imagine if a Nuke plant goes up in your town and what happens to the waste. And they thought electric lines were bad. Nukes are a given only if the old guy gets in. Scary thought. It only takes one Nuke disaster like Chernobyl. Yes, tax incentives need to be passed now to get the US back on track before it's too late. Why are we spending more money putting up missile defense shields in Europe when our own administration (along with the old guy) stated to Russia, regarding Georgia, that it’s not the Cold War era any longer. Yes, we have made many enemies these past 8 years. What about taking the money to spend it on the failing US economy and our failing infrastructure? War is the one and only thing on our administration’s mind and has been for the entire term of office. What a mess. I still can’t believe our government has been subsidizing these oil companies. How long is it going to take before we, the US, get out of our demise? I wouldn’t hold my breath that the Russian situation will open our current admin eyes as to a clearer energy policy. But we can only hope. As of today, with the signing of the missile defense system costing the US 3.5 Bil$,. I sure hope the US becomes self-sufficient soon.
    2008 Aug 20 10:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Thank you very much for an excellent response and detailed technical information. For politics:

    Term limits; regulation should be created to forbid politicians to invest (includes family and friends) into agriculture, energy, housing or defense during term and two years afterwards. That would solve a lot. Would it ever happen? That's probably the real question :)

    And to USHopeful, you are correct. "Not in My Backyard" syndrome is rampant. There are ways to incent those whom don't mind extra money in there pocket for eye sores. The Gridlock Economy by Michael Heller is a good read on this subject.


    On Aug 19 10:38 PM nakedjaybird wrote:

    > that's bails......
    2008 Aug 20 05:05 PM | Link | Reply
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    Paul, all this arm waving about the carbon taxes but a lot of downplay on ways to make electricity....with out carbon emmisions like solar and wind!

    So what side of the fence are you? Go BOONE or SPILL SPILL SPILL?

    Did you sign up?
    2008 Aug 22 09:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    You hit on a very important point in your article - it's our national security that is the most important driving force behind getting ourselves off foreign oil and not global warming. I believe global warming is very important, but it is not the argument that is going to force us down the path of energy independence, and thus to alternate energy development. If we work toward the national security goal, we will naturally build the technology and infrastructure to address global warming.

    Oil money for a country ususally lead to bad behavior by the country's leaders. They can use oil wealth to buy off the people of the country and build a military. Russia's military was in very bad shape, but now with oil prices high, they are building it back to something threatening.
    2008 Aug 22 07:20 PM | Link | Reply