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We have all heard Mel Karmazin state that more detail regarding Sirius XM Radio (SIRI) would be available after Labor Day. This left the window open for speculation, rumor, and simply stated, another period of time where Sirius XM radio stock could blow with whatever winds the market-makers, a television host, or even an analyst wanted. Even hot tips, whether accurate or not, are difficult to prove one way or the other, leaving more frustration.

Sirius XM Radio is stuck. For sector followers this is nothing new. However, knowing it is stuck, and knowing that it is being traded in a range does not ease the frustration. For the past week the stock has bounced around a bit, but accomplished nothing. Longs and shorts are not seeing any real traction. The stock is stuck. How long it will remain in a channel is not yet known, but the next major activity is.

Labor Day is this Monday, and it is then that the company will begin to roll out more detail. This will be something that is hopefully more concrete. Something people can sink their teeth into, and something that will give the street a sense of direction with this equity.

There are two aspects that need to play out in the coming weeks:

  1. What consumers should expect with the merger. This aspect is important, because there is still a lot of confusion out there with reference to legacy receivers, oem receivers, Best Of programming, A-La-Carte receivers, and even how branding will happen. Sirius XM Radio needs to put all confusion to rest. Not all of it has to be in a Press Release, it just needs to be available. People with lifetime subscriptions wonder what happens now. People with one base service or the other also have questions. Retailers do not know the answer, so people need to have a place to get that information.
  2. What investors can expect. How will churn be counted, how subscribers will be counted, what is the status of coverts, debt, and satellites. What synergies are expected to deliver and in what time frame. Investors need to see the final goal, and some milestones on the way to that goal, but perhaps what is more important is getting everyone on the same page as to how to look at this equity.

Until there are some answers to questions such as this, this equity will be stuck. Jim Cramer speaks of additional converts being needed prior to February of 2009. The last thing this equity needs is yet another overhang. The fact of the matter is that there are many financing options available to Sirius XM Radio. Converts is not the only answer, but the street is not aware of that. Jim Cramer is pounding a drum, and until concrete answers are available, that drum beat is hard for people to ignore.

While it is difficult to digest, patience is the key word no matter what your current position. Patience is needed until there is a concrete and demonstrable change. Once that happens, this equity can react on something other than television, market makers and speculation.

Position - Long SIRI

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    Would think that financing options are limited and dilutive. We haven't seen any fully diluted computations as there has never been a profit which would require a fully dilutive computation. The computation isn't appropriate for losses as it results in an anti-dilutive effect. So how many more shares are out there for possible conversion?
    2008 Sep 01 03:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    The shorts? LOL. You need to change your terminology. The shorts have already done their damage. When you short a stock it is a one time transaction, hurting the stock AT THAT MOMENT. It has LITTLE effect on the next trading day, etc...(News neutral). You short the stock because...
    1. You think its going much lower.(At these levels you would have to be insane.
    2. You hedging a bet, where you lose if and only if Sirius goes out of business(I doubt anyoen believes that who holds the bonds, as they are convertibles, meaning they would take shares). This is a one time transaction, entered at lets say 1.50, 1.60, or even 1.28 if they got lucky. There, they have their hedge.

    So anwer me this? Why is this stock CONSTANTLY being shorted and repurchased and shorted again, and when it dips HIGHER volume of shares are gobbled up. Ive been watching Level 2 streaming on this stock for months, and that is exactly what is happening. There are up to 2 million shares being offered as a short every up tick. I assume this is a short, because I refuse to believe 2 million shares are offered every tick, instantly to SELL and never see again from investors thinking this stock is going lower. If you havent sold by now, YOU ARENT GOING TOO. Day traders would hate this stock, as it could explode any moment, and has limited downside potential, and huge upside potential. As a "shorter" I wouldnt even look at a stock like this. Especially with its trading range, erratic jumps and dips, and confusing fundamentals. Big money might be reshorting it and buying back, to accumulate shares. ONLY explanation for this action. I dont give a rats behind about the arbs shorts, the lent shorts, etc... all that would be played out by now. SOMEONE is buying and shorting, buying and shorting for a reason to accumulate shares cheap, and to drive as many shareholders out of their stock as they can. Who is doing this? I have no clue. But WHOEVER is doing it knows exactly what is going on with Sirius, and feels that right now their is nothing the average investor can do to lift its price, which is true, because that coordinated an effort would have to be sustained and constant to force covering of any REAL shorts, which would in fact jack the price up fast. But the constant shorters KNOW they dont need to worry about that. Talk about that, and stop doing justice to the BS from Cramer and the other yahoos who think this market isnt all a game of timing, insider information, and constant daily price manipulation.
    2008 Sep 01 11:37 AM | Link | Reply
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    Tyler in my opinion your reporting of news regarding SIRIUS-XM is the best. Most other reporters of the stocks future are on the negative side and yours at least give the investors hope by delivering more positive news. You always appear to express convidence in CEO Mel and the rest of the company's executive staff and employees. Lets hope in the near future positive reports will encourage investors to drive up the price of the stock to a more realistic value.
    2008 Sep 01 12:36 PM | Link | Reply
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    Relmor....amazing post! Informational, but you lost me at the end, can you elaborate on the last comment....what are you saying there? I believe we agree Cramer's BS does not really affect supply and demand of the shares, but your comment on timing and inside info, price manipulation. Do you mean by market makers, institutions,....what are talking about here?

    2008 Sep 01 12:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    relmor is right on. The big shorter is Goldman Sachs. They are, in my opinion, doing something EXTREMELY dishonest. They are using their analyst, Wienkes, to say the stock is going to $1 and buying up as many shares as they can as the sucker sell at this low level. They already have over 130,000,000 shares and growing.
    2008 Sep 01 12:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    Help, please
    So in this site
    Market Cap = 1.99 b

    on others ( Yahoo ) SIRI Market Cap is up to 4,8 B

    What .........
    2008 Sep 01 03:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    kiparoo, what are you talking about? GS does not have 130 Mil shares of this stock. They do have $127 Mil of Sirius XM's 2-1/2% convertible bonds due in Feb. 2009 and other than their put / call contracts have another 4.86 Mil Shares combined, after the merger with XM's shares converted to Sirius shares. They also own $72.5 mil of XM's 1.75% converts due in Dec. 2009 (I'm pretty sure these are 10% now as part of the merger refinancing with owners so they didn't have to immediately fund due to the merge.) Sounds to me like a lot of conjecture without any real facts.




    2008 Sep 01 04:48 PM | Link | Reply
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    I've noticed the market cap discrepancy by site, too. $1.99B decreases cap published elsewhere by more than half. What gives? Should a fundamental measure like cap be consistent across sites? Or, maybe cap amount at any point in time varies by site based on how fresh one site's data feed is versus another. (PS: I am PM (project manager) on SiriusBuzz and will try to update my profile on Seeking Alpha to match.)
    2008 Sep 01 07:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey relmor. You are right. I have been saying to myself for weeks who would be selling at this level after hanging on for so long. Your theory makes sense. As usual the big houses control the stock. SEC should do away with naked shorting.
    2008 Sep 02 08:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    Does anyone know when Mels conference call is going to be?
    2008 Sep 02 10:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    Relmor, I'll answer your question. Because this company is unprofitable and debt-ridden,and will likely remain so.
    2008 Sep 02 12:16 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hello everyone. After considerable reflection, I've decided that this really is a money-losing company with no growth prospects. I'm selling my entire position and buying an index mutual fund. I apologize to The Vicar of Value and everyone else whose well-intentioned words of warning went unheeded by star-struck Sirius fans such as myself.

    There. That feels better. This really is a burden off my shoulders. I'm off to buy my index fund. It won't be as exciting, but I'll make more money.
    2008 Sep 02 12:24 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos10000.....OH NO....you just caused the stock to drop 20 per cent....LOL......GOOD LUCK TO YOU....I have already lost 80% of my investment if I sell, pretty much my nest egg looking for that big score, so I'd rather lose it all then realize that loss....this blog will not be the same without you
    2008 Sep 02 12:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos10000 you imposter. get a life. cos100 is a long term hold
    2008 Sep 02 12:58 PM | Link | Reply
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    is it cos10000 or cos 100...I also see a cos 1000 post above.....friggin retards
    2008 Sep 02 01:01 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos 10,000 is an imposter
    2008 Sep 02 01:11 PM | Link | Reply
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    1000 is the real cos, .the smart one.
    2008 Sep 02 01:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    Hey guys, thank you for recognizing a fraud.
    2008 Sep 02 01:46 PM | Link | Reply
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    hairpie, I checked with investor relations this morning and there isn't any press release as of yet on the conference call. Position: Sirius Long, dollar cost averaging since 2002.
    2008 Sep 02 02:00 PM | Link | Reply
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    Just for the record, I wish to reiterate that I have sold my position in this money-losing company. The staggering debt, the poor track record of profitability, and its meager growth prospects have convinced me that there are too many more attractive investment opportunities out there to justify holding on to this one.

    I've sold my entire position in Sirius. It was just time. Been waiting too long.....risk reward profile just to poor to hang on. It feels better. Yes, I lost money, but the burden of hoping for the improbable is a weight off my shoulders. To all SIRI longs -- I encourage you to reconsider your investment. Between its money-losing track record and poor growth prospects, just sell now and find a more attractive investment.

    Peace out.
    2008 Sep 02 05:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    don't pay any attention to this cos10000 imposter, he's just another GS or Cramer buddie.......only listen to cos1000 the original with his insights and analysis....why else would this new cos10,000 use that name
    2008 Sep 02 06:49 PM | Link | Reply
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    Straight from Me to You folks: Will the real cos1000 please stand up.

    Karmazin to Present at the 2008 Merrill Lynch Media Fall Preview Conference
    NEW YORK, Sept 02, 2008 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- SIRIUS
    XM Radio (Nasdaq: SIRI) today announced that Mel Karmazin, its Chief Executive
    Officer, is expected to present at the 2008 Merrill Lynch Media Fall Preview
    Conference in Marina del Rey, CA on Tuesday, September 9, 2008 at approximately
    8:00 am PT.
    2008 Sep 02 06:51 PM | Link | Reply
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    stock clerik, Thank you for knowing the difference.
    2008 Sep 02 07:02 PM | Link | Reply
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    What is going on is the GS is betting that Sirius cant come out of this so they can own this company. common stock holders lose everything as Bond Holders which are higher on the Stock food chain win either way. This is a typical move made by Institutions as the high interest rate recovered is too hard to pass up. They may also diversify and purchase common stock in hopes to cap on a big run. either way they win here. This is the nature of the Beast. My hope is that this company will survive(and i believe it will) and deliver some of us poor common stock holder some profits in the end. Good luck to everyone. We will need a little.
    2008 Sep 02 08:06 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000.................. on thes boards that has read any of your previous quality posts .... can easily tell the difference between your intelligent input and the ignorant dingleberry droppings that that fool pretender is attempting to pass off as your high class, and well researched information. We all know who he is anyway. There is no mistaking that stink. No one above was fooled. He should realize that most on these blogs are a lot more sophisticated and intelligent than he. P.S. they are also .........you guessed it.........Long Siri!!!!!! Run Blue Dog Runnnnnnnnn.............. Thank You cos1000 for all of your help. We all greatly appreciate your time and vigilence!!!!!!!!!! Killer.
    2008 Sep 02 10:34 PM | Link | Reply
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    cos1000 I have been reading your BS about SIRI & XM it seems like for ever and all you have to say is always negative and sounds like Cramer who is an idiot and you are also one. If not give us the concrete evidense tha what you say is the truth. Ken in Lincoln Ca.
    2008 Sep 02 10:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    killerkaul, good to see you running with the Blue Dog. It amazes me that idiots actually take the time to try and discredit with these false personalities. VicDave and his band of ............. Why bother. Hope things are well.

    2008 Sep 02 11:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    Just for everyone's information, if you "click" on cos10000's name you will be brought to all of his posts and you will find him to be The Vicar of Value. He has changed his name...again. You can "click" on anyone's name to find all of their posts. When you change your name, Seeking Alpha links the new name to all of your old posts. You might have to read down the list a bit to see what I am talking about but for those who post here regularly you will recognize his posts. So The Vicar of Value has now chosen to post as cos10000. BEWARE
    2008 Sep 02 11:37 PM | Link | Reply
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    Props Cos1000... Thank you for your dedication...
    2008 Sep 03 06:54 AM | Link | Reply