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Edward Harrison


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I was recently called out on missing the details of the FDIC's list of 117 'problem' banks. In a post on the OTS' agreement for regulatory supervision of Washington Mutual (WM), I incorrectly stated that National City (NCC) was on that list and inferred that WaMu was as well. This is not the case. The total asset base of the banks on that list is only $78 billion combined.

Both NCC and WaMu have more assets alone than that entire list. So, this was clearly an error on my part and I freely admit it.

However, this does give me the opportunity to cite the blog "
Bank Deals" which has enumerated which troubled banks in particular could not be on the FDIC's watch list.

The FDIC won't say which banks are in its problem list. However, based on the total assets of these institutions, we know which banks are NOT on the list. The total assets is $78 billion with $32 billion coming from IndyMac Bank which failed in July. That leaves $46 billion for the other problem banks. Below are banks that can't be on the list since their assets are over $46 billion. However, it should be noted that IndyMac failed and it was not on the problem list at the end of the first quarter.

The following banks are under $46 billion in assets, however, with a total of 117 banks on the problem list, there are probably not too many banks with assets between $10 to $20 billion on the list.

Sorry for this factual error.

Other sources: Problem banks: What you need to know - CNN Money

Disclosure: I have no financial stake in any financial institution mentioned in this post.

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    They were right, and you are right.

    As one commentor said in response to your original post, the key would rest in whether or not you believe the data being provided by the government (for starters).

    More telling is your statement above that "it should be noted that IndyMac failed and it was not on the problem list at the end of the first quarter". I'd be willing to assume that's correct, although I don't know.

    And ANY data you're looking at most certainly doesn't consider the total collapse in value of all FNM and FRE preferred and common stock, or the change in Lehman's situation yesterday.

    We're in a highly fluid situation here, where information that is more than 24 hours old or so, probably shouldn't be relied upon for making investment decisions.

    Buy some gold, if you can find any. That's all I'll say.

    :)
    2008 Sep 10 02:52 AM | Link | Reply
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    Its refreshing to see someone freely admit an error and clarify a posting so quickly!
    2008 Sep 10 10:05 AM | Link | Reply
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    I'm so sick of this BS. You and the rest of the media are out to make sure you have a story by putting out as much negative news as you can to ensure WaMu fails. You continue to rehash crap from the past and then when your negativity is so obvious, and your editors call you out, you make it seem like it's no big deal. You know what, to hell with you and the rest of the media. 30 year mortgage rates are down a half a point, WaMu stated and continues to state it has adequate liquidity. But hell no, no one tries to turn that into a ray of sunlight, you just keep on bashing and trashing. I can't wait for the day when the likes of you and the rest of the media (CNBC) are held accountable for your actions. Jail time at best; certainly hell for sure. Sensationalism and negativity is what the media lives off of and you do whatever you can to help make it happen.
    2008 Sep 10 10:14 AM | Link | Reply
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    What is the purpose of this article? Are you simply correcting an error or trying to imply banks noted in the article are in trouble? 259178 is a little rude but correct. The negative spin doctoring is out of control. Please stop!!!
    2008 Sep 10 10:47 AM | Link | Reply
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    I couldn't agree more. Know people who work at WaMu. It's absolutely bad there, but all the truth is already out. Reality of our ECONOMY is that it sucks. To continue bashing in glee all companies that are struggling will surely gain the media its objective...to KILL the weak...and then what happens? Just look at the past, some innovation, but the strong (or better positioned this week, or this month...i.e., U.S. Bank, Wells Fargo, BofA) get stronger...and PRICES for services, in this case, banking go up, and QUALITY of service goes down. Oh, and involvement and support in/of the community, big-time priority at WaMu, drops too. Mark my words...killing WaMu may make many people happy that they "PREDICTED" its demise, but they will be rudely awakened by the reality that sometimes you need to consider more factors than just your own twisted sense of "righteousness" when you attack...anyone, anything. Look in the mirror...
    2008 Sep 10 10:51 AM | Link | Reply
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    WaMu cents of a dollar soon? going belly up?
    2008 Sep 10 11:00 AM | Link | Reply
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    WaMu tried to slip me a ringer on my home loan when I applied for it. Forget the community goodness jive from them. Get real.
    2008 Sep 10 11:03 AM | Link | Reply
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    Just read butlerresearch.com & silverstockreport.com Get out of the futures markets & silver ETF, buy physical silver above spot if you can find it, then gold until you can switch it for silver bars,eagles,maples or pre 1964 bags U.S. coins. Then buy puts on the financials. The clock is ticking.
    2008 Sep 10 11:29 AM | Link | Reply
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    BKUNA, DSL, and FED are all banks that have recently been forced to sign agreements with the OTS due to their massive option-ARM portfolios, mostly in CA and FL. I have written multiple articles on these "option-ARM" triplets.

    It really says something that the list is this long and doesn't include WaMu, which is so clearly on the brink and with credit default swaps indicating a huge chance of a near-term insolvency.
    2008 Sep 10 11:49 AM | Link | Reply
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    By the way Edward: Good detective work in this article!
    2008 Sep 10 11:49 AM | Link | Reply
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    It might be greatly exagerated investor behaviour. The fear after the collapse of Bear Stearns still are fresh on financials. Take in mind that the market capitalisation of WM is 1/4 th of it's actual worth. (75% discount is a lot). If WM is going to get taken over, I doubt it will settle for such a big discount. Sources of the FDIC are reliable, if they were not, the US economic credibilaty comes under question and will have a very hard time in the next USTR negotiations.
    2008 Sep 10 02:43 PM | Link | Reply
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    This was a nice article, thank you.

    Banks are run by professionals. When they screw up and lose money, that is called malpractice and these professionals need to be held accountable for their bad judgment.

    What is really hard to accept are all the apologists out there who make excuses for criminal behavior. When bank CEO's are held accountable for losing a great deal of money, these problems will cease to exist.

    Clark Jenkins
    FishGoneBad.com
    2008 Sep 10 04:12 PM | Link | Reply
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    Greg, I was not aware that FED had signed an agreement of some kind with OTS (although it doesn't surprise me). Can you provide a link?

    thanks
    2008 Sep 10 05:07 PM | Link | Reply
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    To "JDC 64" you are hitting the nail right on the head. The media is getting out of control and more and more bias each year. Especially that Mathews guy,looks like he has a mission to destroy someone. Don't expect he's gone. He'll be back, maybe other channels will even give him a higher position. This kind of crazy nuts are no good for this country or any other countries. They seem to hate women more too. Bad for business !!!
    2008 Sep 10 06:41 PM | Link | Reply
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    More of the same....spread unsubstantiated rumors to drive down the price. Shorts laugh all the way to Barneys to dress their naked (shorting) bodies. There will be criminal indictments before all of the dust settles in the financial stocks.
    2008 Sep 10 07:40 PM | Link | Reply
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    The problem here is that the "problem list" is based on the FDIC's analysis of unaudited reports submitted by the banks themselves. There is no assurance that the banks are submitting accurate reports.

    Furthermore, most publically traded bank stocks are actually bank holding companies. A bank holding company can own multiple FDIC banks and each subsidiary bank submits a separate quarterly report.

    For example, WaMu is a bank holding company that owns two individual FDIC insured thrifts - one headquarted in Nevada and one in Utah. Each thrift submits a separate report and the assets of the Utah subsidiary are small enough to be included on the problem list. (Although it's probably not on the list- the Utah subsidiary is highly solvent according to Bankrate.)

    The bottom line - you can't really rely on the FDIC problem list to evaluate the solvency of publically traded bank stocks.

    2008 Sep 10 09:28 PM | Link | Reply
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    The feds absolutely do NOT want to take over WaMu, the insurance needed would bankrupt the FDIC assets, which BTW are not assets at all but IOU's with the federal reserve, just like Social Security. For those who believe WaMu will survive, as I do, just buy the stock, as I have and make a ton of money when the stock rises, no need for a pissing match. I bought today at $2.06 and $2.11, and will continue to buy in the $2-$2.25 range. My thesis is that they wouldn't have hired a new CEO to immediately be taken over by FDIC, they more likely would have fired Killinger and said the board has "begun a search for a new CEO" than would not have been on the hook to pay someone whom they must immediately terminate.
    2008 Sep 12 12:46 AM | Link | Reply
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    When they started calling it "WaMu" it was terrible.
    It just doesn't sound right or nice. A good nickname
    is very important for success.
    2008 Sep 12 06:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    Doom and Gloom is what you are all about. Sensationalism news reporting thats what makes you tick. You must be in with the short sellers because you sure like to do anything you can to drive the share price of stocks down. The Fed, treasury, and SEC is on top of the markets. Please let them do their jobs without your negative influence.
    2008 Sep 15 04:23 PM | Link | Reply
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    Mr. Harrison,

    I'm late to this thread, but it appears that CORS will be taken over soon, based on the financial performance during the 2nd quarter which left the bank with a negative Tier One capital of <$2.1 million>, and a 'critically undercapitalized' rating by the FDIC.

    I'm frankly surprised that the bank has remained open this month.
    Aug 11 08:19 PM | Link | Reply