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Last November, Petrobras (PBR), the state-controlled oil giant of Brazil, announced that it had found between 5 billion and 8 billion barrels of light, sweet crude in a field called "Tupi".

This field is wedged under a layer of salt deep beneath the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. Some geologists believe there is even more oil in the "pre-salt" fields.

Extracting oil from Tupi is a gigantic technical challenge. The salt has acted as a "perfect seal" to preserve the oil, according the director of Petrobras' projects in the pre-salt fields.

Other big-time integrated international oil companies such as BP (BP) and Norway's StatoilHydro (STO) have tried to make similar discoveries. They learned that these kind of fossil fuel deposits are deep below the surface and very hard to exploit.

Now all the major oil companies are caught in this mindless liquidation of commodity assets and hedge funds dumping shares like hot potatoes. Take a look at the one year chart below on the Energy Select Sector SPDR (XLE) to see the damage.

Chart for Energy Select Sector SPDR (<a href='http://seekingalpha.com/symbol/xle' title='More opinion and analysis of XLE'>XLE</a>)

It sure looks very oversold, and after the impact of Hurricane Ike on production we might see this sector begin to change.

Back to PBR and Brazilian oil, which just keeps getting more interesting every week. Now it has been announced that its Lara discovery will add an additional 3 to 4 billion barrels of oil.

This is enough oil to supply the nation of Brazil with all it needs for the next 5 years. Most of Petrobras's planned investment in exploration and production of $65 billion over the next 5 years will be spent on the new fields.

Petrobras's president says that the company's plans for expansion are predicated on oil at $35 a barrel. He also was heard to say that the company has the financial strength to raise more debt if necessary.

PRB has over $22.6 billion in total debt right now, but its current operating cash flow (ttm) is over $24 billion, and it looks like that number is likely to increase in the years ahead.

Yes, there are some possibilities that the government might try to create a new, wholly state-owned, oil company to maximize its profits from the new fields.

But the leadership of both Petrobras and Brazil know that state-owned energy companies often times are big on bureaucracy and small on business acumen.

As The Economist magazine recently wrote, "Though Petrobras, subject to market discipline, is relatively lean, any new state company might quickly become puffed up by political appointees."

Thus, if it hopes to compete in the marketplace with the likes of PetroChina (PTR) and Total S.A. (TOT), it had better back away from mixing politics with the activities of big energy business.

Disclosure: Long PBR, STO, BP.

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    PBR has placed a dozen long term contracts for deep water rigs. Given the technical challenges and the political risks inherent to their stock, I would rather own the companies that lease rigs to PBR. Transocean, Seadrill, Scorpion and a few others are on this gravy train. I own some RIG.
    2008 Sep 14 09:45 AM | Link | Reply
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    mark
    i have been adding to pbr while it was down. bad idea? good idea?
    2008 Sep 14 10:56 AM | Link | Reply
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    gigem
    is rig your favorite service?
    2008 Sep 14 10:57 AM | Link | Reply
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    Marc, no such thing as fossil fuel. In the history of the universe, fossils have never been made into fuel. Ever: www.gasresources.net/D...

    It's impossible because it would violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics: www.gasresources.net/T...

    Natural petroleum can only be formed at pressures above 30 kilobar which corresponds to a depth of 100 kilometers deep in the earth's mantle: www.pnas.org/content/9...

    No biological molecule can survive in the mantle.
    2008 Sep 14 12:15 PM | Link | Reply
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    Jesus Pursley.. Give it a rest...
    2008 Sep 14 12:52 PM | Link | Reply
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    Uncertainty is a market's black shadow. Uncertainty is what plagues PBR with Lula's pronouncements of increased oil wealth to alleviate poverty.
    He will do this but under what model, that is still uncertain.However, Lula's biggest fear is inflation. He stated this in a recent interview with Bloomberg.
    Lula meets with his finance Minister twice a week just to go over the inflation numbers.This could nean a silver linning in what new model Lula picks. Not theChavez model which is clearly confiscatory but also inflationary. Until we know why buy PBR. BG Group would be a better choice for the obvious reasons of lower exposure to the Santos mega filds and profits commig from elswhere around the world. The other choices are deep drillers and subsea systems companies but not yet PBR. It's value is only compelling at current pricing if Lula doesn't give it a big whack.
    2008 Sep 14 01:10 PM | Link | Reply
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    Thanks for all the helpful comments and insights. Looks like the oil refineries dodged a bullet with Hurricane Ike and early indicators on the damage to offshore drilling rigs and platforms also seems like Ike's path spared most of the big rigs.
    Now I'm not a CFA when it comes to stocks, but if you compare the Key Statistics, The Balance Sheet and The Cash Flow Statements of PBR vs. say ConocoPhillips (NYSE:COP), I'd personally rather own COP right now and avoid the political risk.
    As Steve mentions in his comment, I'd want to wait until the Brazilian government announces its plans and intentions for PBR before I'd own a single share. Just my perspective, but a valid caveat right now.
    One other things, if there are more bank failures and more Lehman's dangling on the cliff, some of the loans to hedge funds could be called in and more forced liquidations ensue. If that happens there would be more downside pressure on commodity prices, especially oil, gas and precious metals. Not for sure, but a real possibility.
    2008 Sep 14 01:42 PM | Link | Reply
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    IT,s all about Propaganda!
    2008 Sep 14 05:19 PM | Link | Reply
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    Been following and buying in and out of pricing with PBR. I have seen it go up slightly but down sharply. Now I am reading how the braz gov't want to take profit and make the country thrive. The shareholders get the short end of it? Hey.. that's me! Could that happen? Can you say CX? or even maybe Chavez? I sidelining PBR right now waiting for a little stability there.... but I am not holding my breath.
    2008 Sep 14 05:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    Brian:-
    Thanks for the link to that Great article !
    2008 Sep 14 05:21 PM | Link | Reply
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    Neither Brazil nor Petrobras have any new oil production, nor will they for a number of years. They have discoveries which only they have estimated. Those estimates have changed both up and down. The costs for extraction will be in the $80-85 range assuming no inflation. If those of you who believe oil drops below $80 and stays there, the whole operation might be extended as many have already.

    Stay with the drillers because they will be unlikely to reduce their contract prices.

    Just MHO.
    2008 Sep 15 12:32 AM | Link | Reply
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    Petrobras is decades old mainly government owned near monopoly in Brazil. I am in Brazil at this momment. A few days ago there was a write up in the "Folha of Sao Paulo," about the expensive, dirty and usually adulterated gas sold in Brazil. Esso left the country selling its gas staions because it could not control distributors and stop them from adulterating product.
    Gas prices are 6-7 dollars a gallon, more than half the stations sell adulterated product, and gas is dirty less refined product.
    Dilma, who is Lula's hand picked successor is also part of the "the pre-salt is ours," propaganda and they have been talking about a new state-owned company to mangae the oilfields and collect royalties to be paid in barrels of oil. Number as high as 50% have been floated.
    Given the fact that this decades old company is facing huge risk with regards to the cost of extraction and the fact that it pays a dividend yield of next to nothing (That shows you the government doesn't care about shareholders) The govet owns about 40%/

    Be careful here. The papers say we won't have any legislation untill after Feb of next year because the Congress in on vacation.

    When Lula leaves the next Gov't could be much worse.
    2008 Sep 16 08:51 AM | Link | Reply