The Nationalization of AIG 20 comments
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Why don't we just do it all now and get it done with? Why piece by piece?
Let's have the government run insurance companies, auto companies, banks, mortgage companies, home builders, brokerages, gas stations, and for good measure let's throw in pizza parlors.
Here is the rumor (it's true).
Bloomberg is reporting Treasury Said to Be Considering AIG Conservatorship.
The U.S. Treasury is considering taking over American International Group Inc. under a conservatorship as one option to address the insurer's crisis, according to two people briefed on the discussions.
Executives from AIG, bankers and Treasury and Federal Reserve officials are meeting today on the company's situation at the New York Fed. A number of options are under being discussed to fill a shortfall of $75 billion to $100 billion in funding, one of the people said. The talks are continuing, he said.
Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and JPMorgan Chase & Co., which have been leading efforts to find a private-sector solution, informed the Fed that such an effort would be difficult, the person said. Under another option, the Fed would extend a loan to New York-based AIG, according to a person informed of the matter.
Notice how shortfalls have increased from $40 billion, to $70 billion, to $100 billion. Is there any reason for it to stop there?
Two Scenarios
1) AIG has been fraudulently tapping its insurance subsidiaries
2) AIG simply screwed up its main corporate office
If it's #1 there should be prosecutions, if it's #2 then AIG should be allowed to go under. The Fed can deal with the aftermath. Nowhere should taxpayers be footing the bill for stupid corporate mistakes.
While typing this post futures suddenly reversed by about 20 points in a matter of minutes. Bloomberg just announced the Treasury is going to take AIG into Conservatorship.
Here is the Bloomberg report: Fed Readies A.I.G. Loan of $85 Billion for an 80% Stake
In an extraordinary turn, the Federal Reserve was close to a deal Tuesday night to take a nearly 80 percent stake in the troubled giant insurance company, the American International Group, in exchange for an $85 billion loan, according to people briefed on the negotiations.
All of A.I.G.’s assets would be pledged to secure the loan, these people said, and in return, the Fed would receive warrants that would give it an ownership stake. Stock of existing shareholders would be diluted, but not wiped out.
If the Fed takes a controlling stake, it is likely that it would want to replace A.I.G.’s board as well as its chief executive and chairman, Robert B. Willumstad.
Conservatorship or Nationalization?
If you guessed Nationalization you guessed correctly. It is highly unlikely this will be "temporary". As with Fannie and Freddie, common shareholders are going to get wiped out and taxpayers are going to be on the hook. It will not stop at $85 billion. Lord only knows what this will cost.
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are you sadists?
Do you have any idea what would happen if AIG failed? The FED did the right thing, it's even foolish to discuss the merit of the deal.
Yes, FNM/FRE were out of control, but letting them fail had consequences. The impact upon our housing market and financial system is obvious. Consider, also, all the Foreign Investment and Soverign Wealth Fund monies held in GSE debt. Such investment finances our national debt. Defaulting on that debt threatens the continual inflow of FDI. How does that suit our taxpayers?
The disappearance of AIG would also have chain-reaction economic resonance. LEH... not so much.
I'm just going to end it here: bottom line, the taxpayers are better off with the FNM/FRE takeover; same with AIG (not to mention that shareholders have only been diluted, not wiped out as Mr. Shedlock remarks). Add on top of that the unrealized gains 1) the FRB already enjoys from its AIG equity stake, 2) the FHFA will enjoy from its FNM/FRE equity.
What else the government can do is: Be fair. Tell bond/stock holders of Lehman that the government should pick & choose who to screw and who to rescue. Tell the shareholders of smaller mortgage insurers that its OK for the government to rescue the bigger, richer corproations, but the little guys can eat it.
BTW, corporate welfare isn't socialism.
It is a shame that the US exported these junk securities all around the world, and it is a shame that the geniuses at the investment banks don't have to repay their bonuses.
Wall Street, the financial capital of the world, says CNBC.
More like the financial laughing stock of the world...
Really?
All statements must be viewed with skepticism and be subject to scrutiny. Central or authoritarian regulation of debate, study and inquiry makes truth difficult if not impossible to find.
If it is foolish to discuss the merits of anything, then we are in worse shape than I had imagined...
it's all a frace - especially the ratings agencies. They should be abolished alltogether. The continue to add negative value to the markets
It is time for the voter to take government back from the corporation.
now we're getting somewhere re pick & choose.
The Fed is protecting SWF's which could sink the USA in an instant.
Except they would feel the pain too.
On Sep 17 04:35 AM fxtrader07 wrote:
> Actually the u.S. govt got itself a very very sweet deal. For a loan(!!!)
> they get a 79.9% equity stake(!) in a profitable company that has
> trouble only in one segment of its operations. And, given sufficient
> time, these troubles will ease and cause a huge write-up of many
> billion $ that had been written down on mark-to-market accounting.
> It#s almost unbelievable that AIG agrred to this deal and rejected
> others before. C'on, they will be able to repay the loan which is
> covered by all of AIG's assets anyway. This is no bail-out, this
> is expropriation of the shareholders of AIG by the govt.