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Equinix (NASDAQ:EQIX)

Q3 2012 Earnings Call

November 01, 2012 5:30 pm ET

Executives

Katrina Rymill

Stephen M. Smith - Chief Executive Officer, President, Director and Member of Stock Award Committee

Keith D. Taylor - Chief Financial Officer and Principal Accounting Officer

Charles Meyers - President of North America

Chris Sharp

Analysts

Christopher M. Larsen - Piper Jaffray Companies, Research Division

Jonathan A. Schildkraut - Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division

Michael McCormack - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Michael Rollins - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

Frank G. Louthan - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division

David W. Barden - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

Simon Flannery - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Equinix Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Also, today's conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, please disconnect at this time.

I'd like to turn the call over to Katrina Rymill, VP of IR. You may begin.

Katrina Rymill

Good afternoon, and welcome to today's conference call. Before we get started, I'd like to remind everyone that some of the statements that we'll be making today are forward-looking in nature and involve risks and uncertainties. Actual results may vary significantly from those statements and may be affected by the risks we identified in today's press release and those identified in our filings with the SEC, including our most recent Form 10-K filed on February 24, 2012, and Form 10-Q filed on July 27, 2012, and Form 8-K filed on September 13, 2012.

Equinix assumes no obligation and does not intend to update or comment on forward-looking statements made on this call. In addition, in light of Regulation Fair Disclosure, it's Equinix's policy not to comment on its financial guidance during the quarter, unless it's done through an exclusive public disclosure.

In addition, we will provide non-GAAP measures on today's conference call. We provided a reconciliation of those measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures and the list of reasons why the company uses these measures in today's press release on the Equinix Investor Relations page at www.equinix.com. We would also like to remind you that we posted important information about Equinix on the Investor Relations page of our website. We encourage you to check our website regularly for the most current available information.

With us today are Steve Smith, Equinix's CEO and President; Keith Taylor, Chief Financial Officer; and Charles Meyers, President of the Americas. Following our prepared remarks, we will be taking questions from sell-side analysts. In the interest of wrapping this call up in an hour, we'd like to ask these analysts to limit any follow-on questions to just one.

At this time, I'll turn the call over to Steve.

Stephen M. Smith

Thank you, Katrina. And good afternoon, and welcome to our third quarter earnings call. Before we get into more specifics on the quarter, I would like to give a quick update on our operations after this week's severe weather on the East Coast.

First, I'd like to thank our site operations teams for their heroic efforts before, during and after the storm to support our customers. Secondly, as search, rescue and cleanup efforts continue, our thoughts are with the people of New York and New Jersey and other hard-hit areas, many of whom remain without power and may be facing the loss of family, friends, homes and possessions.

We are fortunate to report that, as of today, the storm has minimal impact on Equinix in Philadelphia and Washington, D.C. In New York and New Jersey, we are currently running on a mix of utility and generator power. Although some sites experienced water leaks, there was no flooding inside our sites, as we have had -- and we have had access to all locations and still do today. We are monitoring the situation closely and are managing regular fuel deliveries to our generator-run facilities until utility power is restored. Throughout this difficult event, we have also been communicating regularly with our customers, as well as the external market.

So now turning to the quarter, I'm pleased to report that Equinix delivered another quarter of solid financial results. As shown on Slide 3, revenues were $488.7 million, up 7% quarter-over-quarter and 20% over the same quarter last year. Revenue was in line with guidance before excluding $8.8 million from the announced sale of 16 IBXs.

Adjusted EBITDA was $228.3 million for the quarter, up 5% quarter-over-quarter and up 22% over the same quarter last year and excludes $4.3 million of adjusted EBITDA from the divestiture. Despite macroeconomic uncertainties, we see continued strength in the business and solid underlying fundamentals, including deal size, mix and pricing. Industry trends, including cloud computing, electronic trading and the exponential growth of mobility, IP traffic and video drove strong performance in network and financial services, with key customer wins across all of our verticals.

Asia Pacific had a notably strong quarter, growing organically 28% year-over-year, as multinationals expanded our footprint in this high-growth region. We also saw strength in the platform bookings as customers leveraged our global platform to deploy highly distributed infrastructure. 60% of our revenue this quarter is from customers deployed across multiple regions, up from 58% last quarter. And revenues from those deployed in all 3 regions increased by 34% over last year.

Our growth is driven by our global interconnection platform, where businesses are connecting to their customers and partners inside the world's most networked data centers.

Now let me expand on our 2 strongest verticals for the quarter. Financial services had a record bookings quarter, driven in part by electronic trading deployments in key cities around the globe. Today, over 75 exchanges and trading platforms are part of this driving ecosystem. Wins this quarter include the New York Stock Exchange, who deployed a safety access node in our New York 5 data center; and MICEX RTS, the Russian Stock Exchange, in our London 4 data center. Largely due to strength in financial services, our Secaucus campus continues to experience strong fill rates, high utilization and healthy pre-assignments into our newly opened New York 5 facility.

The financial services ecosystem in Asia Pacific is also growing very quickly, with Q3 growth led by our team in Tokyo, along with strong growth also in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Sydney and Singapore. Our Tokyo 3 IBX is fast becoming the primary meeting place for electronic trading in Japan. As an example of this momentum of developing ecosystem, after winning 2 trading platforms in Tokyo last year, bookings year-to-date grew 121% year-over-year. And 24 new financial customers joined the Tokyo 3 trading hub to connect to these trading venues.

Current growth of financial services is driven by the firm's mitigating risk by accessing market data sources inside our IBXs to trade smarter. Our customers recognize the value gained by being adjacent to key customers and vendors and a wide choice of networks that connect them to end points around the globe. New market participants are also driving growth in this vertical, as new global regulations will require over-the-counter derivatives to move onto electronic trading platforms.

Now switching to network. This vertical performed very well as telcos expand global deployments to offer services to our growing customer base. We are also seeing growth in pairing traffic and cross-connects between mobile ecosystem members, who are deploying in our site to reduce latency and provide reliable access to popular content and services. Many of our new builds will increase network density internationally.

For example, approximately 15 networks have deployed in London 5 since it opened just 2 years ago. And several major networks are putting their main fiber routes directly into the London 4 and London 5 campus. We recently opened Amsterdam 3, one of our most advanced data centers, which uses the latest in sustainable technology. The IBXs is located in the Amsterdam Science Park, which is one of Europe's most network-dense campuses, providing Equinix customers access to hundreds of global networks, as well as the Amsterdam and Netherlands Internet Exchanges.

Turning to cloud. Software-as-a-Service continues to grow, with distributed SaaS deployments leveraging our network density to enhance application performance. And we are also seeing wins from Infrastructure-as-a-Service and Platform-as-a-Service providers. Hybrid cloud enablement is a significant opportunity for Equinix and cross-connects between cloud providers and other segments, such as financial services. It showed that cloud will continue to drive for new applications inside of Equinix.

We remain focused on our ecosystem strategy, managing our customer mix and assessing new deals and customer renewals with regard to size, power density, target vertical and interconnection profile. This is delivering strong results in terms of revenue yield per cabinet and overall price stability. As a result of these efforts, churn is creating some revenue headwinds as we progress with our IBX optimization program in the Americas and implement multi-tiered architecture deployments with key customers. We believe that maintaining this level of operating discipline is critical to our long-term success and central to delivering healthy revenue growth, long-term margin expansion and returns on invested capital. We also recognize that these are volatile times from a macroeconomic perspective. And we will continue to closely monitor these trends across the regions as we enter into 2013.

Shifting to our global offering. This quarter, we expanded our platform organically and through acquisitions in response to customer demand. We believe our disciplined acquisition strategy gives us a significant first-mover advantage in expanding to new markets to support ecosystem growth and enhance the value of our global services.

In July, we expanded the platform by acquiring ancotel and Asia Tone. ancotel, located in Frankfurt, added over 200 new networks and 6,000 cross-connects, increasing interconnection revenue from 4% to 7% of monthly recurring revenue in Europe. ancotel is now tethered back to our Frankfurt campus, bolstering network density for our customers in that market and enhancing the overall value of Platform Equinix.

Our second acquisition, Asia Tone, has strengthened our position in Mainland China and across Asia. In addition, this quarter, we opened a new data center in Shanghai, where we have already won several mobile and network customers. ancotel and Asia Tone performed on target, contributing $16.1 million of revenues to the quarter. And we are excited by our customers' positive response to these new sites.

We're also exploring opportunities to drive CapEx-efficient expansions of Platform Equinix into other growth markets. Last month, we announced a partnership with DCI, a prominent local data center operator in Indonesia, to build and operate a new data center in Jakarta. Indonesia has the world's fourth largest population and the largest economy in Southeast Asia, which is experiencing significant growth in data and network traffic. In addition, recent financial regulations in this market will require the on-shoring of financial data storage. This partnership will leverage the strength of our Singapore operations, using our brand, sales channel and operational expertise, combined with DCI's capital and local knowledge, to offer leading data center services in the Indonesian market.

Equinix also continues to explore expanding Platform Equinix into other key markets. As an example, we believe the Middle East is an underserved connection point between Europe and Asia and has the potential to develop into an attractive transit and cloud hub for that region.

As a reminder, on Slide 4, as we sharpen our focus on developing business ecosystems, we are prioritizing our investment in markets required by our customers to optimize application performance. As a result of this strategy, today we closed the sale of 16 of our U.S. IBXs to 365 Main for approximately $75 million. The divestiture of these assets will allow us to focus our capital and management's intention on accelerating ecosystems in our most productive markets.

And finally, as announced last month, we plan to pursue conversion to a real estate investment trust to enhance shareholder value and create opportunities for profitable strategic growth. As a REIT, we will continue to pursue our growth strategy and do not anticipate any meaningful impact on the delivery of services to our customers. This tax-efficient structure will deliver significant economic benefit and allow us to provide shareholders regular distributions from earnings. We have already formed a project management office to support this conversion effort and expect to file a request for a private letter ruling with the IRS by year end 2012. After receiving an IRS response, which we believe could take up to 12 months, we will provide further clarity on operating structure as a REIT, including the expected division of our assets between qualified REIT subsidiaries and taxable REIT subsidiaries. If successful in this conversion process, we plan to elect REIT status beginning January 1, 2015.

So let me stop here and turn it over to Keith to review some of the financials for the quarter.

Keith D. Taylor

Great. Thanks, Steve. Good afternoon to everyone on the call. So I'm pleased to provide you with additional detail on the third quarter. With the exception of our consolidated financial results, the majority of our other key non-financial metrics exclude the impact of ALOG, ancotel and Asia Tone. Where appropriate, we'll put pro forma key results to reflect the impact of our discontinued operation, thereby allowing you to compare prior results to your prior Q3 guidance.

So starting with Slide 5 from our presentation posted today. Mobile [ph] Q2 revenues for continuing operations were $488.7 million, a 7% quarter-over-quarter increase and up 20% over the same quarter last year. Our performance reflects a $1.4 million negative currency headwind when compared to the average rates used in Q2, although a $3.4 million benefit when compared to our FX guidance rates. These results exclude $8.8 million of revenue attributed to the 16 IBX assets held for sale. The result is better reflected as a single line item below our operating results as discontinued operations.

On an FX-neutral basis and normalized for our acquisitions and the divestiture, our Q3 revenues increased 4% for the prior quarter and up 19% over the same quarter last year. Pricing per cabinet equivalent remains firm across each of our regions.

Global cash gross profit for the quarter was $330.7 million, a 5% increase over the prior quarter and up 23% over the same quarter last year. Cash gross margins were 68%, a 1% decrease over the prior quarter, primarily due to seasonality of utility rates.

Global cash SG&A expenses were $102.4 million for the quarter, below our expectations due to slower-than-anticipated hiring and discretionary spend. Next quarter, we expect our cash SG&A expenses to increase, primarily due to higher salaries and benefits and the increase in our advertising and promotion and the increase in our professional fees related to both REIT and non-REIT related projects, including our global tax-funding initiatives.

Global adjusted EBITDA was $228.3 million for the quarter, a 5% increase over the prior quarter and a 22% increase over the same quarter last year. Our adjusted EBITDA margin was 47%. On a normalized and constant currency basis, adjusted EBITDA increased 2% over the prior quarter and 19% over the same quarter last year.

Global net income was $28.8 million for the quarter, a 21% decrease compared to prior quarter, largely due to $12.2 million increases in depreciation, amortization and accretion expense attributed to all of the IBX expansions and openings, a $5.2 million debt extinguishment loss related to our Asia Pacific refinancing and a $2.9 million increase in acquisition costs.

Our fully diluted earnings per share was $0.58, including $0.01 per share attributed to discontinued operations.

Now let me turn to global MRR churn. Our MRR churn was 2.9% this quarter, a decrease over the prior quarter and reflects our ongoing IBX optimization efforts, situations where customers transition to a multi-tier architecture and selective macroeconomic conditions, including some unanticipated bankruptcies. We expect our MRR churn to remain at or near these levels for the next few quarters. But our Q4 and 2013 guidance fully contemplates this level of MRR churn. Although MRR churn faced some revenue headwinds, we believe the end result of our proactive efforts will allow us to deliver stronger operating results in the form of higher pricing per cabinet, better operating margins and better utilization of our IBX asset base, thereby enhancing our return on invested capital. Equally, we expect our MRR churn risk to decrease over time.

Looking forward at exchange rates, the U.S. dollar exchange rate used for Q4 and the 2013 guidance have been updated to $1.30 to the euro, $1.60 to the pound and SGD 1.23 to the U.S. dollar. Our updated global revenue breakdown by currency for the euro and pound is 14% and 8%, respectively. And the Singapore dollar represents 6% of our global revenues.

Now I'd like to spend a few moments outlining the additional details in REIT conversion costs, and I'll highlight any expected impact on 2013. So turning to Slide 6. As previously noted, we expect that tax affected recapture related to depreciation and amortization expenses to increase our U.S. cash tax liabilities by $340 million to $420 million, due ratably over 4 years.

Our current NOL balance will offset the 2012 portion of this recapture. Yet, given the sizable book and tax gain attributed to the sale of our 16 IBXs and the higher taxable income related to our operating performance partly due to the change in our tax depreciation, we expect to fully utilize our remaining NOL balances by the end of 2012, leaving us with that expected cash tax liability of approximately $45 million for 2012. Looking forward to 2013, we estimate our cash tax liability to range between $200 million and $300 million, largely due to our decision to convert to a REIT.

We also expect to issue special distribution to our shareholders of undistributed accumulated earnings and profits, also known as the E&P purge. The E&P distributions will approximate $700 million to $1.1 billion to be paid out in a combination of up to 20% in cash and 80% in Equinix common stock. The E&P distributions are expected to be paid over a period of time, pending a favorable response from the IRS on our private letter ruling but before the end of 2015.

Also, we expect to incur approximately $50 million to $80 million in costs to support the REIT conversion process over the next 2 years, which includes operating our global financial systems and processes to reflect the conversion to a REIT. For 2012, we expect to incur $4 million of REIT-related costs. For 2013, we estimate we'll incur $20 million in incremental SG&A cost and $5 million of additional capital expenditures for the REIT conversion process. These costs are reflected in our 2013 guidance. If the conversion is ultimately successful, we expect to incur an additional annual compliance cost of approximately $5 million to $10 million starting in 2015.

Turning to Slide 7. I'd like to start reviewing our regional results. So let's begin with the Americas. Americas revenues were $293.9 million, a 2% increase over the prior quarter and up 13% over the same quarter last year. Our revenue increase absorbs a larger-than-expected revenue backlog and the IBX optimization effort currently under way in the region. Cap gross margins decreased slightly to 71%, primarily due to higher seasonal utility rates and higher operating costs related to the IBX openings. The Americas region continues to see strength in its platform booking, exporting deals to both Asia and Europe.

Adjusted EBITDA was $141.4 million, flat quarter-over-quarter and up 15% over the same quarter last year. Americas adjusted EBITDA margin was 48% for the quarter. As a reminder, the Americas region absorbs the majority of our corporate overhead cost, including our business system initiatives. Despite one of our strongest gross booking quarters, the Americas net billing cabinets decreased by approximately 200 at quarter end, reflecting the timing of our booking activity load for the quarter, the impact of an increasing cabinet billing backlog and cabinet churn occurring at the end of the quarter. The Americas region pricing per cabinet remains strong and reflects the impact of our ongoing strategy. Americas interconnection revenue continues to represent approximately 20% of the region's recurring revenues. In Q3, we added almost 1,500 cross-connects.

Now looking at EMEA, please turn to Slide 8. EMEA had a solid quarter against a negative economic backdrop across most of Europe. Revenues were $112 million, up 9% sequentially and 5% on a normalized and constant currency basis. Adjusted EBITDA increased to $46.5 million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 42%, primarily driven by increased operating costs related to our IBX openings and expansions and lower margin attributed to the ancotel acquisition.

Normalized and on a constant currency basis, our adjusted EBITDA increased 1% over the prior quarter and up 31% compared to the same quarter last year. EMEA interconnection revenues increased to 7% in the quarter, largely due to the acquisition of ancotel. Also, the region organically added 900 cross-connects in the quarter. Our EMEA region's net cabinets billing increased by 100 at the end of the quarter, largely due to timing of bookings and churn cabinet at the end of the quarter.

And now looking at Asia Pacific, please refer to Slide 9. Asia Pacific had strong sales momentum with record bookings this quarter, driven by wins across our cloud, digital media and content and financial verticals. Asia Pacific revenues were $82.9 million, up 25% sequentially and 9% on a normalized and constant currency basis. Overall pricing remains firm across our entire Asia Pacific footprint.

Adjusted EBITDA was $40.4 million, up 29% quarter-over-quarter or 9% on a normalized and constant currency basis. We added 61 new regional customers this quarter, a 31% increase over a rolling 4-quarter average. Billing cabinets increased by almost 800 over the prior quarter. Interconnection revenues decreased 11% of the region's recurring revenues due to the acquisition of Asia Tone. Over the quarter, we organically added 800 cross-connects, another strong quarter of interconnection activity in the region.

And now looking at the balance sheet data, please refer to Slide 10. From a balance sheet perspective, at the end of Q3 and looking into Q4, we have a healthy liquidity position. Our quarter end unrestricted cash balance was $520 million, and we have full access to our $550 million line of credit. Our cash balance decreased in the quarter, primarily due to the net funding of $273 million for the acquisitions of ancotel and Asia Tone. Also, given the sale of our 16 IBXs today, our cash balance will increase by approximately $75 million.

Looking at the liability side of the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with gross debt of $3 billion or net debt of $2.4 billion, about 2.7x our Q3 annualized adjusted EBITDA. In the short term, we'll continue to review our balance sheet and debt structure to assess opportunity to refinance, with the objective of lowering our cost of borrowing while maintaining structural flexibility to operate as a REIT. We'll also consider the issuance of debt and equity to support projected REIT conversion-related cash requirements.

Now looking at Slide 11. Our Q3 operating cash flow decreased $102.2 million. However, on a pro forma basis, after adjusting for a $53.2 million GAAP charge indirectly caused by the REIT conversion, our operating cash flow would have been $156.6 million, a 20% decrease over the prior quarter and up 9% over the prior year. This decrease was largely due to the Q3 cash interest paid on our high-yield debt and the payment of acquisition-related costs.

Our adjusted discretionary free cash flow was $119 million in Q3, and we expect our 2012 adjusted discretionary free cash flow to range between $520 million and $540 million. Directionally, for 2013, we expect our adjusted discretionary free cash flow, excluding any REIT-related cash costs or taxes, to range between $600 million and $620 million.

Now looking at capital expenditures, please refer to Slide 12. For the quarter, capital expenditures were $212.1 million, lower than expected and largely due to the timing of cash payments to our contractors. Ongoing capital expenditures were $37.6 million, which included $14 million related to maintenance, efficiency enhancement and single points of failure capital.

This quarter, we opened several flagship data centers in phases, including Amsterdam 3, Miami 3, New York 5 and Paris 4, providing sufficient inventory in our key markets to support the growth of the business and ecosystems. We'll continue to monitor our inventory capacity on adjusting time basis while carefully managing our existing customer mix and assessing future deals in terms of size, vertical focus and interconnection profile.

So with that, let me turn the call back to Steve.

Stephen M. Smith

Okay. Thanks, Keith. Now if we turn to Slide 14, I'd like to provide an update on 2012 and initial 2013 guidance. For the full year of 2012, we expect total revenues to range between $1.890 billion and $1.895 billion. This reflects a $36 million decrease in revenues due to the 16 U.S. IBXs held for sale, reported separately as discontinued operations, and includes a $10 million foreign currency benefit when compared to our prior FX guidance rates, but also absorbs $28 million of currency headwinds from our initial 2012 guidance.

Our refined 2012 revenue guidance incorporates the impact of a larger-than-expected bookings backlog and the revenue headwinds attributed to our MRR churn. Total year cash gross margins are expected to range between 68% and 69%, which reflects the cost related to the IBX openings in the second half of 2012.

Cash SG&A expenses are expected to range between $410 million and $415 million. We are raising our adjusted EBITDA guidance to range between $880 million and $885 million as we continue to manage our discretionary and incremental spending programs. This reflects an $18 million decrease in adjusted EBITDA through the 16 IBXs held for sale and includes a $4.5 million foreign currency benefit, when compared to our prior FX guidance range. We're refining our total CapEx guidance for 2012 to range between $770 million and $790 million, which includes approximately $145 million of ongoing capital expenditures.

Shifting to 2013, we want to provide you with a directional view of our financial expectations. This takes into consideration the broader economic environment while using the FX exchange rates provided by Keith.

We expect 2013 revenues to be greater than $2.2 billion, an anticipated 16% increase over the midpoint of current year guidance, which effectively gives a revenue floor for 2013 at current exchange rates.

Adjusted EBITDA is expected to be greater than $1.010 billion, which includes $20 million in REIT-conversion costs as Keith outlined, effectively an adjusted EBITDA margin of 47% before REIT costs. We expect our 2013 capital expenditures to range between $550 million and $650 million, including about $165 million of ongoing capital expenditures. Our expansion capital expenditures include approximately $115 million for expansion projects already announced in 2012.

Given these guidance expectations, we believe that our growing adjusted discretionary free cash flow should be sufficient to fund our growth capital expenditures and generate approximately $175 million of adjusted free cash flow, excluding REIT-related cash costs and tax liabilities. This is a significant inflection point for the company of generating a meaningful level of adjusted free cash flow, while funding our growth, as a result of the scale of the business and disciplined execution.

So in closing, as we approach the end of 2012, we are very pleased by yet another year of strong growth and business performance resulting from our focused strategy of global reach and ecosystems of high-value customers. Our disciplined execution of striking a balance between revenue growth, margin expansion and our targeted returns on our invested capital is driving us to make good long-term decisions for the business. With barely a visibility into 2013, we continue to see strong opportunity to build on our differentiated customer proposition and remain in a growth path towards our target of $3 billion in revenue for 2015.

At this time, I'd like to open it up for questions. So I'll turn it back over to you, Jerry.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Chris Larsen, Piper Jaffray.

Christopher M. Larsen - Piper Jaffray Companies, Research Division

So I guess, first, I'll start with the wobbly news we're having here in the Northeast. Any sense, Keith, that you can give us in terms of early cost -- extra cost we might see going in the fourth quarter from having to run on diesel? Any SOAs that may have been tripped? Any other sort of things that we should think about from that? And are you having difficulties getting any of that diesel in? Because apparently, there's some fuel issues. And then, I guess, the second question I'll just ask you right upfront is, are you getting any sense from other people that, "Hey, wow, we need to hurry up and get into an Equinix data center," because you are performing so well?

Keith D. Taylor

Chris, that's a great question. So what I'll do is I'll tag team this one with Charles. And so let me deal with the first question. Clearly, as we -- in this quarter, when you think about the amount of fuel that we're consuming, it's going to be much larger than we originally anticipated from our planning perspective, but that's contemplated within our guidance. Offsetting that, of course, is utility part. We won't be paying for the utility part while we're on generator. So from that perspective, it's probably going to be somewhat awash. Clearly, to the extent that we're running on full generation for a period of time, there are going to be some wearable components that we will have to replace. So we expect that we would have an increase in our R&M this quarter. That's sort of contemplated already in our guidance. So at the highest level, I feel comfortable that the guidance that we have in front of you today, absent something sort of catastrophic, we've fully contemplated the costs associated with any increases due to the storm.

Charles Meyers

And yes, Chris, I'll pick up on some of the other elements of your question. Relative to the fuel situation, obviously, that's something we're watching very closely. We have been able to access all the facilities and get timely fuel delivery thus far. And we're actively monitoring fuel supply, and we're tracking multiple sources of supplies, including access from outside the metro, if and when needed. So we're on top of that in ensuring that we have ready access to fuel to keep generator running as long as we need to until utility power is restored, which we believe could be several days still. So again, that is a key issue and one we are tracking very closely. Also, I think I want to reassure our customers that we remain on high alert, maintaining increased staffing levels as required to monitor and troubleshoot the facilities until return to a fully normal condition across the footprint. In terms of your last comment, I would say, again, we are watching it closely. And we'll continue to be very diligent until we are fully back to normal. But I think we are very pleased with how our facilities, and more importantly, our people, have performed. And we're going to continue to use this incident as a way to learn and get better. But I will say that we have had some challenges in older multi-tenant facilities in Manhattan, where we do not fully control, manage and maintain the building infrastructure. But in our Equinix campus facilities, where we have our main control and have our own processes for maintenance, et cetera, we have performed very well. And so, I do think it's a testament to the Equinix track record of operational reliability. And we do expect that that will be something attractive for both customers and prospects alike, as we come at the back end of this.

Christopher M. Larsen - Piper Jaffray Companies, Research Division

And no triggers on the SLAs, I take it, then.

Charles Meyers

Yes. We are looking at that. I don't believe that will be anything material. And like I said, both from a cost perspective on the incremental operating costs as well as SLAs, we don't believe there'll be anything outside of the range of what we contemplated.

Christopher M. Larsen - Piper Jaffray Companies, Research Division

Terrific. And is it too early to imagine anyone coming in, knocking on your door, looking for a safe place to stay? I'm talking about new customers, sorry, just to be -- yes, new customers coming to you saying, "Hey, why, you did so well. We need to get in here."

Charles Meyers

It is not only not too early, it has already begun to occur. So absolutely not. And like I said, I do think that I'm sure my operational teams would mock me knocking on wood as I speak, but we continue to perform very well. Very pleased with the level of resiliency and the people and the processes operating the facilities. And people are -- I think, for example, the Secaucus facility continues to be a great option for people that is a fully maintained Equinix facility that, again, delivers superior results. So yes, it's definitely not too early. And my phone is ready to ring for anybody else who would like to come in.

Operator

Our next question comes from Jonathan Schildkraut.

Jonathan A. Schildkraut - Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division

Steve, I was wondering if you could offer some perspective, or maybe Charles as well, in terms of the difference in performance between yourselves, the interconnection-focused business and maybe some of the other businesses we see, whether it's large footprint retail or the wholesale names out there. You probably have a little bit more of a perspective, given that you do operate the DC 10 facility. In that regard, maybe you could also give us an update on how that facility is doing and if there are any plans to maybe take that to other markets. And then separately for Keith, I'm just wondering if there's a different way to think about D&A going forward, given that you've captured back a whole bunch of D&A, and you've extended the useful lives of your assets.

Stephen M. Smith

Yes. I'll start, Jonathan. This is Stephen. And we'll walk around that one. Because I think those are all good questions. But I guess the highest level, the way we think about it from a supply demand standpoint is that we operate on a different supply curve than the wholesale providers do. And so, if you -- let's just take our market as Charles has talked about, the Secaucus, the New York metro market, for example. So in our New York core asset, we're 90% plus built in that asset, which obviously triggered our decision for, just in time, New York 5 facility to come onboard. So the pipeline in New York 5, the fill rates are very strong, as you heard us voiced over in the script. So that's the market where you're probably hearing from the wholesale players that there's saturation in that market from a wholesale standpoint, not affecting us in terms of the ecosystem interconnected, electronic trading focus that we have in that market. So 2 different supply curves when you think about a market. And that obviously helps us, where we're focused on our type of customer deployment. I don't know if you would add there, Charles.

Charles Meyers

Well, yes, I mean, fundamentally, it is a very, very different business model. Very highly differentiated in terms of value we offer to customers for certain elements of their application architecture. And so, again, we target business where network density, application performance, global reach, mission-critical reliability are all critical factors in the decision-making for a customer. And interestingly, purchase decision for our customers is often a revenue-facing decision. And so, as a result, I think we've been able to sustain favorable pricing in the market that remains firm. I think our fill rates remain strong. We do see a movement towards these multi-tiered architectures where people are tiering their architectures to take full value -- advantage of the full value of Platform Equinix in terms of these -- some of these performance-sensitive applications, but then looking to incorporate larger footprint to handle perhaps less performance-sensitive or less latency-sensitive applications. In many cases, our customers would prefer to do business with us across that range, which is one of the reasons why we opened the DC 10 asset. That has performed very well for us thus far. We see a very strong pipeline there. And we are actively evaluating the extension of that product to other markets, so that we can meet at least selectively for strategic customers a more robust multi-tiered architecture requirement. In some cases, they need to go to even larger facilities. They do so in a very aggressive wholesale market today in terms of price competition out there for that. And they can often get great values for those larger footprint deals. But we tend to operate at the lower end in a very differentiated set of their applications.

Jonathan A. Schildkraut - Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division

If I can just ask a follow-up question to that, you guys are also a purchaser of wholesale space. And as you start to walk down the path to REIT conversion, your ability to secure your assets over long periods of time, obviously, it would be pretty compelling to the investor base. Are you trying to take advantage of the current marketplace? And is there any update on your ability or your recent kind of renewals of some of the wholesale space that you occupy?

Chris Sharp

Well, I mean, I think there's a couple of things. Obviously, in every deal that we look at in terms of extending our footprint, we're going to look at the opportunities in front of us. And we've signaled before on calls and said explicitly that ownership of assets is something we're interested in, where that makes sense. And so we will look at that. And if opportunity presents itself for us to get a good deal on an asset, we certainly will do that. And if we need to lease space under very stable, very long-term favorable conditions, we certainly will do that as well. And there are deals out there for us to extend our footprint to meet fill rates or meet demand. And we'll look at that as we always do. But perhaps Keith can comment a little bit more on the ownership situation as well.

Keith D. Taylor

And Jonathan, what I would say is, generally speaking, when we think about leasing facilities, part of it is based on, as Charles said, where we want to extend our footprints. We're really sort of still a little down. It really is just another form of financing to us. So we have to look at sort of the implied cost of borrowing under a leasing scenario versus basically a do-it-yourself scenario. And we just take that into consideration. And as you know, our ability to borrow debt today, if we so choose, is at a relatively low rate, and certainly if the tax effect is even more. And so from that perspective, we take that into consideration. But it's exactly what Charles said, to the extent that we have the opportunity to own some of our assets, we'll -- and then makes sense for us, we'll certainly do that. To the extent that it's generally a multi-tenanted facility, that's not something, of course, that we're going to own. It's going to be owned typically by real estate concern [ph].

Jonathan A. Schildkraut - Evercore Partners Inc., Research Division

Yes. I was thinking more along the lines of, you're already in an asset. The opportunity came up to maybe renew or extend the term at a favorable rate. But I absolutely understand what you're saying. In terms of the D&A, Keith, is there any way to think about this differently, given the extension of useful lives?

Keith D. Taylor

Yes. There's really not because -- the challenge that we have here, Jonathan, is when we talk about recapture -- what we're really talking about is tax recapture, which is very different than book. And so the recapture is effectively recapturing -- if you will, the IRS recapturing basically the depreciation that we took as a C-Corp and there -- and we re-characterize it as basically real estate -- that was real estate oriented, it could be amortized for tax purposes up to 40 years. And so effectively, that recapture through 2011, any adjustment to our taxable income for 2012, is really all about tax. It has nothing really to do with book. So -- but as a general comment, when we think about the economic life of our assets, I still maintain it's roughly 20 years or greater. And we've always had somewhere between 20 and 30 years as the economic life of many of our assets. And as long as we have strong maintenance or preventive and predictive maintenance programs, which we do, we should enjoy the full economic life of that asset. And so I think we're -- I think what we're going to get then is a little bit of a mix match between what the tax authorities look at versus what the U.S. GAAP sort of reporting is for our depreciation. And I think that was the -- that's the issue here.

Operator

Our next question comes from Mike McCormack, Nomura Securities.

Michael McCormack - Nomura Securities Co. Ltd., Research Division

Just a quick one, Keith. You mentioned that there's some increased cabinet churn at the end of the quarter. Can you just sort of walk through -- and maybe Charles can help on this as well -- just walk through the process of optimization, sort of how far along we are, whether that was the cause of late-quarter churn on the U.S. cabinets? And then secondly, on EMEA, obviously, very strong interconnect from ancotel. Is there a read-through from that, which you can then sort of process that interconnect revenue and dive more penetration into that market as well?

Charles Meyers

Yes, let me -- Mike, let me tackle the first one in terms of the Americas cabinets and the activity there and how it interfaces with our -- the churn issue. So again, I think that the churn is really -- it's really primarily an artifact of us continuing to execute on our strategy in a very disciplined fashion. We talked over the last several quarters about this IBX optimization program. And we essentially -- where we -- we're looking at each location, identifying business that either is low priced, low power density, low interconnection, some combination of those things, and very explicitly evaluate if, when and how we would intend to replace that business with deals of higher commercial quality. And as we signaled, those efforts are driving the higher churn levels. But it's critical to note that virtually none of that churn is associated with the loss of what we consider targeted business to our competitors. So undoubtedly, it does recreate some revenue headwinds. And you see that in the net cabs billing number. That's exacerbated a bit by the timing of our bookings in the quarter, which tend to be a bit back-end loaded. And again, obviously, there's revenue headwinds because the churn -- the revenue disappears immediately and then takes a bit of time to backfill. But we see -- already see the program continuing to have significant positive impacts on our business. As I mentioned in our last call, some of the specific churn actions we've already taken will drive millions of dollars in incremental EBITDA with 0 capital investments. Our site margins are going up. MRR per cab is going up. The power utilization is going up. Cross-connect density is going up. And those are all metrics that are highly correlated with long-term operating margin in the customer retention. So I'm confident that our actions are not only expanding operating margins but reducing the overall capital intensity of business; increasing our cash flow performance, which is becoming evident; and really -- and materially improving our ROIC over time. So that is the dynamic that you see there in that metric. But the continuation of that program is fully contemplated in the 2013 guidance we provided. And we think that, over time, that offers upside as we fully align our businesses' mix with that strategy.

Stephen M. Smith

And Mike, this is Steve. On the interconnection question in Europe, one of the primary factors on the acquisition of ancotel was that that asset sat in one of the busiest nodes in Frankfurt and actually has the DE-CIX, which is probably the busiest DE-CIX node in Europe. But as we've mentioned several times, we picked up a couple of hundred new networks worldwide from about 63 or 64 countries, many of them to Eastern and Central European network players, over 6,000 physical cross-connects, as well as a -- basically a virtual Meet Me Room product that we're still understanding how we're going to leverage possibly elsewhere in the world but works very effectively in that part of the world. So that has definitely helped the interconnection focus in Europe and that was a prime driver for that acquisition. As I mentioned today, it took us from 4% of revenue to 7% of revenue for interconnection. That team had very healthy quarter on cross-connects with over 1,000. So we're -- yes, we are very focused on making that more interconnection dense in Europe. Eric is driving that business. Eric Schwartz is focused on doing that. So that -- and half of ancotel's business comes from cross-connects. Half the revenue is associated with cross-connect. So it's a very cross-connect dense product -- company. And it's now tethered into the Frankfurt campus. So we'll leverage in that as we grow the business.

Operator

Our next question is from Michael Rollins of Citi.

Michael Rollins - Citigroup Inc, Research Division

I was wondering if you could talk a little bit more on the sales side broadly, what's happening with the growth of the sales force, the productivity of the sales force and where you're seeing the pipeline and backlog. You made a couple of comments about some increases in backlog, I think. But I wasn't sure if that was coming into the third quarter or exiting the third quarter. And so if you can give us a little bit more color on those factors, that would be fantastic.

Stephen M. Smith

Sure, Mike, this is Steve. I'll start and I think Charles probably has some insight in Americas that might be helpful here. So big picture around the world, we are approaching as we come to the year end, call it a couple of hundred quota-bearing reps around Equinix in the 3 regions. As we have taken on these new headcount over the past 14, 16 months, we've obviously started to manage our underperformers. And we're getting them all aligned to our industry verticals. Heavy, heavy focus on networks, financial and cloud providers. All of them are selling Platform Equinix. So we are incenting the entire sales force to sell all -- now we've exited, 69. I think it's roughly 92, 93 IBXs around the world. So they're all incented to sell the entire platform. From a new rep productivity standpoint, it's still a very positive story. And internally here, we kind of talked about -- we're very optimistic about their sophomore year as they enter into their second-year of performance here. But the performance does vary from vertical to vertical. And we're probably strongest in the 3 I just mentioned: network, financial and cloud. That varies a little bit by region. But generally speaking, our value proposition is very strong in those 3. It's a little tougher to open an enterprise customer, whether it's a manufacturer or a retailer or an energy and oil and gas company. But generally speaking, new reps are really starting to continue to go up into the right from a performance standpoint. Overall, pipeline is good. Our coverage ratios are in line with our plan. And price realization, as you mentioned -- as we mentioned in the script today, our MRR per cabinet, particularly on new deal pricing, still remains firm. So generally speaking, we are very happy with the growth of the sales productivity. But I want to be clear that sales productivity just doesn't go away at any one time here. This is a top priority for this company. It will continue be a top priority. We'll continue to bring more heads down. We'll continue to get more productive. We're going to continue to get deeper in our verticals and talk about selling solutions to our customers. We're providing the collaboration tools so they can speak like one Equinix. And we're quite, frankly, bringing a lot of thought leadership to these industry vertical conversations as we get deeper into these relationships. So I like where we stand today in terms of total productivity of our sales engine. Charles, would you add anything?

Charles Meyers

Yes. And I think you hit most of the key points there. Just from a -- specifically, from the Americas perspective, again, we had our second largest regional bookings quarter ever in Q3, continuing to deliver strong exports in terms of global needs, platform booking needs that go out into the other regions. Records, actually, from a bookings perspective in both financial services and network. As Steve indicated, we're a little less mature in our value prop in some verticals and -- but productivity levels continue to be up and to the right. I talked a lot about this cohort analysis we do. And I did indicate there should be continued upside left for us in terms of bookings growth. So with regard to the backlog question, it's interesting because what's happening, we are seeing record levels of backlog. Although our book-to-bill interval continues to be generally across most of our implementation is very strong, we're seeing some extension of it because, particularly in our business suite offerings, it's simply a larger -- tends to be a larger footprint-type implementation, which takes a bit longer to ramp into. And then secondly, we've modified our approach to selling power. And that's really materially improved our power utilization. But it requires us to make a -- just offer ramp [ph] to customers because the take-or-pay nature of the pricing. And so those things have added a bit to the revenue backlog, which, again, provides a little bit of tailwind in the face of the revenue headwind that we talked about on the churn side. So a little bit of a countervailing force there. But again, overall, I think productivity continues to trend in the right direction. As Steve said, we are very focused on it, continuing to work on it every day, improving the quality of our value propositions in the other verticals. And it feels -- like I said, I feel good about what's Steve referenced there that are sophomore-year performance for the new reps.

Operator

Our next question comes from Frank Louthan, Raymond James.

Frank G. Louthan - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division

Just given some of the dislocation in the business recently, can you give us an update on what your current customer concentration is, large customers, the percentage of revenue and what sort of the larger -- your largest vertical? And what sort of utilization trends are you seeing across your different segments? Where would you expect your -- the overall utilization of your data centers to be 12 months from now?

Stephen M. Smith

A couple of questions there, Frank. Let me start off and maybe Keith and Charles can chime in here. Let me give you a color in the quarter where the bookings fell. And I'll just give you a worldwide numbers just to give you context. Our largest vertical in the quarter, as I mentioned in my script, 25% of our bookings were in network and 25% of our bookings fell into the financial services. So we had very, very strong growth in those 2 verticals. That was followed by -- 22% of our bookings fell into the cloud and IT, which is the third one that's really been high growth for us. 18% was in the content digital media companies and then 9% were in our enterprise, which is pretty consistent with where our revenue -- our monthly recurring revenue is by vertical. Pretty consistent in the network. We were up a little bit in the financial. Enterprise is 9% of revenue, and it was 9% of bookings this quarter. Content digital media pretty flat, cloud pretty flat. So we tend to fall into those 5 industry verticals in that form, pretty much every quarter. So I guess the takeaway there is network, financial and cloud continue to drive our bookings and obviously, feed our monthly recurring revenue numbers. Second part of your question, I don't...

Frank G. Louthan - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division

Utilization trends.

Stephen M. Smith

And utilization -- in terms of vertical, Frank, is that where you're coming -- were you coming from utilization of our assets?

Frank G. Louthan - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division

Utilization of the assets, just kind of -- in each one of the 3 areas.

Stephen M. Smith

Yes. Utilization has shifted a little bit this quarter, obviously, as you heard Keith talked about the amount of capacity that we've brought on this quarter. But utilization now is roughly 80% in the Americas. And it dropped down to 68% in Europe because of all the capacity we brought on in Paris and Frankfurt and London and Amsterdam. And we're around 71% in Asia. But worldwide, we're about 74% utilized. That's the current figures on build capacity.

Frank G. Louthan - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division

As you expected to be 12 months from now.

Stephen M. Smith

Well, it will obviously go up. You can see our CapEx guidance is down, and we've got capacity in critical markets and goals to increase bookings every -- year-on-year. So our expectation that we'll continue to raise the utilization levels to historical levels.

Charles Meyers

Yes. The only thing I would add, Frank, is if you think that -- we track utilization, both space and power utilization, at a very granular level. So you see the sort of big background number, which is heavily influenced by the addition of capacity into the system. But we track it at a much more granular level. And our optimization program are looking not only at cabinet utilization but at power utilization and our ability to continue to monetize power and drive higher levels of cabinet utilization through various techniques. And our optimization program is really a lever for us on margin expansion. So I expect not only are we going to just simply grow into the capacity that we put out there, but we're going to continue to drive very -- higher and higher levels of utilization on our existing assets. So I don't know the exact number that will trend to in the Americas over the next 12 months, but we're going to add some more capacity coming up here. But at a granular level, we are very focused on continuing to drive utilization, given the impact it has on ROIC.

Operator

Our next question is from David Barden, Bank of America.

David W. Barden - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division

If I could just -- Keith, just following up a little bit on the guidance, trying to do the math, subtracting the first 3 quarters of the adjusted EBITDA for the switching data reductions from the midpoint of the guidance. It seems to give us a number of around $2 million to $6 million, which is actually down sequentially. And then if I take that and multiply it by 4, then I look at your guidance and then see growth that's actually going to be closer to $10 million or $11 million sequentially, quarter-over-quarter. So if you could flip back for us, kind of help us understand the -- what's moving those numbers, would be great. And then, if I could, just a second question. Obviously, coming into this quarter, we heard a lot of noise about the challenges that Digital Realty and DuPont Fabros are having in the wholesale side of the market. And obviously, we're seeing that those 2 things -- those 2 businesses of yours, I know those are not really linked in terms of performance. But does their challenges in terms of supply versus demand present an opportunity for you guys to have lower cost inputs to your facilities next year?

Keith D. Taylor

Great questions, Dave, and I think we'll probably tag team this a little bit. But let me start just with -- let me start with 2012, sort of our -- where we're going to guide for the rest of the year and how that translates into the 2013. But I also sort of have to take you back to sort of 2011, just so you can get a sense of how we performed and how we're applying that offering guidance here. Though at the highest level, and as you're aware last year, when we came out with our guidance roughly at this time, we were -- we guided to -- that we do roughly 1.87 from a revenue perspective. If you actually take -- if you pro forma everything, and there's a couple numbers that I think you have, but I just want to make sure that we knock this one down, that if you actually pro forma that -- your loss in asset of $36 million in revenue, between Asia Tone and ancotel, you're going to have roughly $34 million of revenue pickup this year. And if you look at the FX impact, from when we originally offered guidance to where we are today, there's a $28 million headwind. On an adjusted basis, you get to roughly a 19 23 number. Now the guidance that we offered at midpoint is 18 93. Again, that reflects the Apple transaction and the like. So said differently, when you think about where we offered guidance last year versus where we'll all be coming in, we had a lot of confidence that it was going to be a greater than and no different as I look into next year, being 2013, we're offering you a floor of $2.2 billion. And so unless you look at it from a number of different perspectives, I looked at Q4 exit rate this year and I look at Q4 exit rate last year, I annualize, and then I look at the certain net impact based on the numbers that we're actually showing greater acceleration this year than we did last year, number one. And that being a key takeaway. But number two, just off the pure floor, the base. We thought -- we grew, again, on an adjusted basis 2012 over 2011, we're growing at roughly $316 million of that pro forma number. Out of the gate, we're offering you a $307 million uplift. And so from my perspective, we looked at all of this. We then took that into consideration. We talked more a bit about the headwinds related to churn, the delay in the backlog. We felt that this was a good first-choice entree into the market at this point, given the macroeconomic environment. It's a 16% growth over a midpoint of guidance for 2012. And we think that was a good sort of first step in delivering guidance for 2013. And again, no different than we've done in the -- over the last couple of years. We're going to continue to update you on a quarter-over-quarter basis, as we get more clarity on how the year is going to perform. But certainly, we're all sitting here. We think it's a robust guidance. There's very few that are out there delivering 5 quarter ahead guidance. And our point of view is that this is a good guidance to come out of the gate after the Q3 call. A lot of the numbers.

Charles Meyers

And relative to the second question, in terms of -- I think your question is primarily oriented around -- given competitive intensity in the wholesales, does that gives us an opportunity to reduce our sort of factored cost -- unit cost going in. Again, I think we look at every deal. We have a very competent and very focused corporate real estate team that looks at -- as we give them our roadmap, if you will, of where and how we want to expand our platform, we go out and look at what is available to us and whether that is in the form of existing facilities that we would lease or other options. I think we evaluate those on a yield-by-yield basis and continue to get the best possible deals we can get. And so if that -- if that allows us an opportunity to reduce those costs, we will certainly capture it. And -- but I think your initial observation is spot on, which is these are very different businesses. And I think people are beginning to realize that.

Operator

Our final question comes from Simon Flannery of Morgan Stanley.

Simon Flannery - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

I wonder if we could talk about 2013 CapEx for a minute. I think, if I got it right, there's $150 million announced CapEx, that -- which works at to a buffer of almost $300 million. It doesn't look like you announced any new projects in the last quarter or so. And you did talk about having plenty of capacity there. So how should we think about that $300 million? Is there -- are we going to get more clarity on that in the next sort of 3 to 6 months? Or is that really something you'll sort of take a look at early next year and see how demand is developing?

Keith D. Taylor

Great question, Simon. I think first and foremost, you're absolutely right when you think about amount of capacity that were brought on in Q3. And we'll bring on some more capacity in Q4. And we'll continue to manage that inventory, as we said, on a just-in-time basis. And we've got -- as Charles said, we have a very good focus today on -- and managing not only the physical space but also the infrastructure throughout the portfolio. That all said, as you're aware, there's some markets that, for all intents and purposes, were sold out [ph] when we haven't announced anything. An example of that could be like at Toronto; we're eager to get into the Toronto market. You know that we're eager to get into other markets that we've talked about around the globe. And then there's other assets at or near capacity where we're already starting to think about the next expansion phase or the next build. And so -- but with all of that, I think, as we go through each quarter, we'll give you clarity on how we're go to spend the money. But I don't think it's going to be a surprise to you that there's going to be markets that we really haven't announced any sizable bill as of late. And because of that, we're going to have to come back and put more capacity into the ground. And again, we're going to manage it very, very tightly and focus on a just-in-time basis and make sure we can phase or stretch out our capital as far as we can to hit as many markets as we can. As you know, today we're in 30 markets post the announcement today. And so we got to make sure that we have sufficient cap to meet all the needs. But I feel very comfortable. We've got a very disciplined process that not only identify the next opportunity but also manage the filling of that opportunity.

Simon Flannery - Morgan Stanley, Research Division

Was that fairly linear through the year? You obviously had a big back-end loading this year.

Keith D. Taylor

It's very episodic as you know. It tends not to be linear. You can see it in the lumpiness of our CapEx this year. And I'll tell you, going forward into 2013, I would expect it to be somewhat lumpy again, and it will just depend on the timing of when we turn up some of these construction projects and then how we settle the obligation to our contractors. Because our -- the CapEx numbers we delivered to you guys is really a cash number, right? We're taking into consideration the movement of funds to our contractors. But my sense is it will not be a linear chart next year.

Katrina Rymill

That concludes our Q3 call. Thank you for joining us.

Operator

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