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  • Abu Bakr Hussain
    $MSFT $NOK struggling to get VPN support for WP8 *sigh* http://bit.ly/17GyRaO
    5/17/13
    Reply (60)
    • Abu Bakr Hussain: Enterprise support isn't icing on the cake. it IS the cake.
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    • Zhang Fei: Add your voice to the clamor for this feature that started in 2011: http://bit.ly/Z1NOBw
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    • La Rue: Voted.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Hussain - I have complained about the bizarre omissions and quirks of WP8 for over six months, but commenters on SA don't want to hear.
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    • Andreas Hopf: VPN, proper calendar, proper Skype, file browser, e-mailing attachments, situation profiles, sound profiles - the list goes on and on...
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    • Andreas Hopf: One could write an article of Microsoft's WP8 failures, but it would be a waste of valuable time, because Microsoft does not seem to care.
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    • Andreas Hopf: See http://bit.ly/12OaeGB for a partial list of issues. Unbelievable. I thought our Lumia 920s would be top business tools - wrong.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: Zhang - shocking isn't it. Started in March 2011. Does anyone know how complex this feature actually is to implement?
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: Thanks System - i'm reading thru it now. I think WP8 marketshare is increasing through NOK's efforts but...
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: it will plateau and trend back towards zero if WP8 problems aren't rectified.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Yes. It is infuriating. Really. I mean, Microsoft invented f***ing VPN in the first place.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Please also see comments on http://bit.ly/12OaeGB sorted for newest first. Microsoft leaves Nokia high & dry as in the 1080p issue.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: well apparently, not having 1080p is why HTC won't bring out a HTC One WP8 version
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: That was an excellent article by the way, i agree with most of it. what worries me is will these issues be tackled in...
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: ..GDR2, GDR3 or Blue? Or not at all? Especially If some of these issues have been ongoing since WP7 launch..
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    • La Rue: I came this far for this. Unacceptable !
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    • Andreas Hopf: Told you so. Abysmal. What is worse: nobody knows how, when and if Microsoft will react - an opaque black box, absorbent like a black hole.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: Thanks everyone - i will write article on this and try to get a link to VPN petition here. There are 10,722 votes there.lets try to get more
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    • Zhang Fei: "Zhang - shocking isn't it. Started in March 2011." WP8 is a totally new from the ground up operating system that came out 6 months ago.
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    • Zhang Fei: I'm not totally surprised a VPN feature hasn't been implemented. The problem is that nobody cares about MSFT's problems or that it's a
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    • Zhang Fei: totally new operating system. They need to get this out yesterday to be competitive in the enterprise market, where they hand out phones by
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    • Zhang Fei: the thousands for employee use.
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    • Andreas Hopf: Microsoft does obviously not care about mobile business users, whether small business or large business. They want to fail. It's a theory.
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    • Zhang Fei: "I have complained about the bizarre omissions and quirks of WP8 for over six months" I think the problem is that WP8 has only been out for
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: Zhang - I agree with you re:"yesterday" - also yes WP8 is new. But in the context of being developed frm lessons learnt based on WP7.Less so
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    • Zhang Fei: 6 months. Apple's Maps problem took 6 months to fix and IOS hadn't just gone through a complete rewrite, not to mention VPN implementation
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    • Zhang Fei: may be tougher than a Maps tweak. Again, nobody wants to hear MSFT's problems and it needs to get on the ball, come hell or high heaven, but
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    • Zhang Fei: its challenges are formidable.
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    • Zhang Fei: They needed to replicate the functionality of WP7 while doing a complete rewrite. I don't think that left a lot of room for adding other
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    • Zhang Fei: other features. It might have been better if they had just tweaked WP7 and added VPN, but that's not what they did. They wanted a common
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    • Zhang Fei: Windows NT kernel across platforms instead of the next iteration of Windows CE-based WP7. Was it worth all the angst and market disruption
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    • Zhang Fei: for NOK? We are about to find out.
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    • Zhang Fei: In doing a complete rewrite for WP8, MSFT zeroed out Windows Phone's app base. Computer users pretty much have to migrate to Windows 8.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: moving to NT kernel was an excellent long term move. I just don't know if MSFT considers WP8 to be a core competency.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: for NOK, its existence is dependent on WP8, for MSFT it is a 'nice to have', not a 'must have'. But in my opinion, WP8 is crucial to MSFT..
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    • Zhang Fei: Nobody has to migrate to Window Phone 8. While recent NOK Lumia sales are encouraging, the ditching of the Windows CE kernel clearly
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: in stopping AAPL and GOOG encroaching into enterprise. AAPL don't need to build servers. they could just make whole offices into..
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: iphone/ipad/macbook zones.there R several offices going that way already. And if/whenever that happens MSFT will struggle to get them back.
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    • Andreas Hopf: ZF, that is all very well. But consumers and businesses don't care for formidable kernel rewrites. They just want WP8 to enhance their life.
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    • Zhang Fei: torpedoed the forward momentum being gained by Windows Phones in the marketplace, such that 4Q12 Lumia sales were similar to 2Q12 numbers.
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    • Andreas Hopf: ABH, yes, one has to wonder. Really.
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    • Zhang Fei: 4.4m unit sales in 4Q12, the Christmas quarter, vs 4.0m in 2Q12 was abysmal, as quarterly comparisons go. Given the difficulties that MSFT
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    • Zhang Fei: decisions have imposed on its OEM partners, I'm not surprised that HTC appears to be on the verge of throwing in the towel on the Windows
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    • Zhang Fei: Phone platform. Without the $1b subsidy to NOK, I suspect Elop would already have moved its flagship platform to Android.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: I think the 4.4mill figure is more NOK's fault than MSFT. they had terrible supply problems in run up to christmas. they lost clear sales..
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: L920 availability was very limited ruining the marketing hype. now the phone is 25% off at most online resellers. Shortage than a glut.
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    • Abu Bakr Hussain: However, YoY comparisons should be good, NOK should get nearly twice the 2Q12 figure this quarter.
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    • Zhang Fei: "I think the 4.4mill figure is more NOK's fault than MSFT. they had terrible supply problems in run up to christmas" MSFT rolled out WP8 in
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    • Zhang Fei: October, at month-end. Given the vagaries of testing out WP8 on the hardware designed for it, manufacturing and shipping, this gave NOK
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    • Zhang Fei: 1-1/2 months worth of time to sell the product, and there were issues with battery life that were aired in the media. Bottom line is that
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    • Zhang Fei: the PDA/cell phone biz has always been sort of a hobby for MSFT, and it has really driven its OEM's up the wall. For instance, why hasn't
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    • Zhang Fei: DELL come up with a PDA based on Windows Phone? It used to make Axim devices based on Windows CE. HP has dropped Palm. Why isn't it jumping
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    • Zhang Fei: into the PDA or mobile phone racket?
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    • Zhang Fei: For those who haven't been following the mobile gadget biz, HP used to make PDA's and mobile phones based on the Windows CE operating system
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    • Zhang Fei: Then a CEO decided buy Palm in order to generate tax write-offs.
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    • Zhang Fei: Without the chasm between WP7 and WP8, many buyers would have just continued buying WP7 phones and upgrading them to WP8 when the OS came
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    • Zhang Fei: out. The kernel change torpedoed that possibility.
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    • Zhang Fei: It is as if MSFT forgot all the lessons about the critical importance of backward compatibility it learned from the computer biz. Meanwhile,
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    • Zhang Fei: the original Iphone can be upgraded to IOS 5.
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    • Andreas Hopf: In transit at an airport, I would have liked to review/comment multiple PDF quotations from suppliers and e-mail them on. I couldn't. Why?
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