gwynfryn: it is one thing to politely question or discuss the content in an article. Quite another to launch unfounded accusations and personal attacks. Several of his comments on this forum were removed by SA.
I see that it's difficult for you to have your opinions challenged without resorting to insults and threats. I would wish you good luck but that would not be sincere on my part.
Sheltering yourself behind a hidden identity while dropping names to give the appearance of knowledge and experience proves absolutely nothing. And why did you provide a link to a general plastics encyclopedia when it sheds no light about the discussion on Nokia's unique manufacturing?
I will not pretend to have extensive knowledge in Nokia's manufacturing process. I will net Nokia speak for itself. Read these articles and see if you still conclude that their process was quick, inexpensive and efficient.
jimdart: if you read his prior comments he admits several times his field of expertise... and it ain't manufacturing. He's some kind of branding consultant, in a suit and tie. That is why he copied and pasted that bit about manufacturing. He does not know if it applies at all to what Nokia did. I asked him to tell us how he knows this and his lack of response tells me all I need to know. In any case, there are ways of communicating with people in a public forum, and belittling people is not one of them.
Is that your answer? I was asking why we should believe the information you obviously copied and pasted from some source, aside from your smug comments and insults, applies precisely to Nokia's manufacturing. Thank you.
Ryan: "The lack of colors on the 925 was a design decision. There are 3 shades: black, white, and grey. They are not saving money here, they are trying to match the aluminum color more closely with a sophisticated look."
That's a lot of statements. Are these opinions? If your statements are factual, can you provide a link/ reference for shareholders?
Seppo2: I think if you look back at the transcripts, you will discover that the shortages were due not only to deliberate actions by Nokia, but they were also due to component shortages from companies he would not name "out of respect".
It's not only a Nokia issue; Apple, Samsung and other OEMs face shortages. When it comes to Nokia, it is especially maddening when you need the share price to rise and you have a winning product to do it with, but you cannot meet demand.
Whether it is losing money because of too much inventory or losing money because of lost sales, you are still losing money at the end of the day (!) At least with too much inventory, you may be able to sell components to other OEMs and make some money. You don't make a dime on lost sales.
gwynfryn: I can't provide you a link but I remember reading about the special process paid for by Nokia, that only one supplier could provide, to make through and through colors that would mask scratches. No other OEM used it as far as I know. I would be surprised if the cost of that process was negligible, as opposed to selling colored covers. If you have a link that supports your point, I'm sure all shareholders would be interested in reading it.
Regarding aluminium on the L925, I believe it is just the frame of the phone, and will only be silver. The rest of the body will remain white, black or grey plastic
DR.G: so what you're saying is that Elop has made no mistakes since taking office that have had an impact on share price? And that all the initiatives since his tenure as CEO could not have been done any better?
Boy, you're going to have a tough time convincing any shareholder of that. I think there is enough blame to go around for OPK and Elop and some left over afterwards.
healtywealth: how is it comparable? Ford did not take a bailout and as soon as the economy turned around, it became healthy again. Of course the CEO did good work; did it take him and his team more than 31 months? Don`t think so. Nokia is still struggling since 2010 and improvements are slow, only one of three divisions slightly profitable.
G: you're right. As all investors in NOK, I am hoping to get value in the future. However, after hanging on for 2 years on this roller-coaster, my arms are just about ready to fall off. I am jaded and cynical. I've seen many 11% increases in NOK since I've been long. It can evaporate in one or two days, then go sideways for many other weeks. Good luck to all us longs and God help us!
dog: why don't you do your many "friends" here on SA a solid and take the time to verify all the numbers and report back here. They are available to anyone on Nokia's website.
I am glad you are not a Judge in a court of law. "You made one mistake? Guilty on the rest, then!" Woof!
1mp1r3t4: The amount of comments on an article has no impact on anything more than the writer having to put up with insults being flung left and right. I have admitted my error about the percentage and have submitted a proposed correction.
As soon as you click on the link to read this article, any article, you register a page-view and one cent goes to the contributor.
If you cannot accept that Elop is responsible for the stock price since he has been in office, that's your prerogative as a shareholder. IMHO O'bama is responsible for events happening under his watch and he is not afraid of admitting that he is. That is the nature of accepting such a position of power. It comes with responsibility and someone has to accept it.
Fault, on the other hand, is a different thing. We will likely never know who is to blame for NOK's major mistakes were, but responsibility goes to the guy or gal that gets the big bucks at the top.
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
I will not pretend to have extensive knowledge in Nokia's manufacturing process. I will net Nokia speak for itself. Read these articles and see if you still conclude that their process was quick, inexpensive and efficient.
Nokia N9 gets a new colour and a software update
http://nokia.ly/12BaTJz
The Nokia Lumia 900 is simply better by design
http://nokia.ly/13BIiF7
How Nokia made Lumia brightest phones in the world
http://nokia.ly/12BaTJC
A glimpse inside Nokia’s material world
http://nokia.ly/13BIjsG
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
That's a lot of statements. Are these opinions? If your statements are factual, can you provide a link/ reference for shareholders?
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
It's not only a Nokia issue; Apple, Samsung and other OEMs face shortages. When it comes to Nokia, it is especially maddening when you need the share price to rise and you have a winning product to do it with, but you cannot meet demand.
Whether it is losing money because of too much inventory or losing money because of lost sales, you are still losing money at the end of the day (!) At least with too much inventory, you may be able to sell components to other OEMs and make some money. You don't make a dime on lost sales.
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Regarding aluminium on the L925, I believe it is just the frame of the phone, and will only be silver. The rest of the body will remain white, black or grey plastic
Thanks for your comment.
Nokia Manufacturing Improving? [View article]
Very good point! This hurts promotion as most won't take the time to understand the ranking system.
Elop's Nokia, A Portfolio Crusher? [View article]
Boy, you're going to have a tough time convincing any shareholder of that. I think there is enough blame to go around for OPK and Elop and some left over afterwards.
Elop's Nokia, A Portfolio Crusher? [View article]
Elop's Nokia, A Portfolio Crusher? [View article]
I've seen many 11% increases in NOK since I've been long. It can evaporate in one or two days, then go sideways for many other weeks. Good luck to all us longs and God help us!
Elop's Nokia, A Portfolio Crusher? [View article]
I am glad you are not a Judge in a court of law. "You made one mistake? Guilty on the rest, then!" Woof!
Elop's Nokia, A Portfolio Crusher? [View article]
As soon as you click on the link to read this article, any article, you register a page-view and one cent goes to the contributor.
If you cannot accept that Elop is responsible for the stock price since he has been in office, that's your prerogative as a shareholder. IMHO O'bama is responsible for events happening under his watch and he is not afraid of admitting that he is. That is the nature of accepting such a position of power. It comes with responsibility and someone has to accept it.
Fault, on the other hand, is a different thing. We will likely never know who is to blame for NOK's major mistakes were, but responsibility goes to the guy or gal that gets the big bucks at the top.