Linn Energy (LINE) CEO Mark Ellis disputes the assertion in the negative Barron's article that its units may be worth far less than the current quote: "We've had three different analyses done... None of the valuations [is] anywhere close to what was represented over the weekend in the Barron's article." LINE plans to raise its dividend ~6.2% this year, not cut it. LINE +1%, LNCO +1.3% premarket. [View news story]
Meanwhile WFC comes out with article in support of LINE.
. “We continue to believe LINE’s distribution is secure and poised to grow at a mid-single-digit annual growth rate over the next five years,” the Wells Fargo analyst wrote. Also, “we continue to believe the LNCO financing vehicle provides the company with a competitive advantage and could help both support distribution growth and improve Linn’s leverage ratios over the coming years.”
also per mlpprofits.com:
The proprietor of the bearishly disposed hedge fund cited started this shop only in November, reportedly with just $50 million in assets. Among those on the other end of this trade is the investing legend Leon Cooperman, whose Omega Advisors fund held $150 million worth of Linn at year-end"
Boost Your Portfolio Returns With MLP Funds [View article]
Good article, a few comments:
re: UBIT/UBTI: UBTI generally not an issue for retirement accounts unless holding 6 figure positions, meanwhile MLP outperformance over past decade far exceeds competing income investments in both income and appreciation. Also, while markets in general have risen under Fed's liquidity pump, the growth story for many of the MLPs is real due to new energy sources and technologies, which have generated a need for $100-200 bln in cap spending in industries in which MLPs are located.
re: MLP funds: Those with C-corp organization sacrifice return due to corp structure,like: Taxation at entity level Need to retain cash to pay for future tax payments on deferred taxes fees Some of these use leverage to make up for return lost, which introduces own risk
Some ETFs tend underperform index due above burdens on return
ETNs bear credit risk of issuer and liable to lose value if issuer takes credit rating hit, these are unsecured and so risk total loss if creditor insolvency
funds have their place but generally agreed to underperform comparable basket of MLPs
RE: political risk: none seen at this time. Risk of elimination like that seen in 2006 in Canada minimal for a number of reasons: In 1987 Congress confronted the issue of non-resource companies abusing MLP status. Rather than choosing they ‘toss out the baby with bathwater” approach favored in Ottawa, they chose to to tighten restrictions
Fracking technology has created unmet demand for pipelines and other midstream and gathering services. MLPs offer cheaper capital and better encourage formation of these needed midstream assets needed to exploit new energy sources and technologies .
Current trend, if anything, is for Congress to expand MLP status. The most recent MLP legislation is the MLP Parity Act, aimed at expanding qualified MLP activities to certain renewable energy industries which have thus far struggled to find funding. Allowing the MLP structure would make it easier to attract capital, especially from large, traditional energy firms which could create MLPs in order to to monetize/offload renewable assets by dropping them into their own newly created MLP, which would transfer cash to the parent sponsor/creator by selling shares at higher yields than the parent can due to the MLP pass through nature that cuts out corporate tax
Significant risk: field decline risk – some of new sources from fracking showing faster than expected depletion
Environment: lots of evidence of problems, but paucity of conclusive studies, partly due to reluctance of governments to fund studies that might kill off big revenue generator.
Admittedly, politics of 'fairness' (aka tax the productive ones) may trump reason.
Biggest risk is that tho MLPs have historically low correlation to overall market that correlation not only exists it tends to rise in times of selloffs. A risk given market's elevated level that is not supported by traditional drivers of new highs like robust global growth and corp earnings outlook, but rather central bank money pump and financial repression (aka low yields in bonds)
Finally, all MLPs are USD denominated and so,unlike the sadly departed Canadian royalty trusts, don't provided badly needed income instrument with USD diversification. (though hard asset link of most MLP mitigates inflation risk somewhat.
key point to know with funds is that they're an imperfect tradeoff - solves taxation reporting/payment issues at cost of lower yield and at times different set of risks. Again, UBIT not an issue for most retirement a/cs unless have 6 figure position, even then if keep to lowest UBTI level MLP return may still justify
Milton Cooper Has Very Deep Roots In This Blue Chip REIT [View article]
Good article and fitting tribute to Mr C, an unsung classic american success story who earned it all the right way. Nice guy, too. KIM a core family holding for decades...wish all had worked that well
Linn Energy (LINE) -5.1% premarket after a weekend Barron's article warns of a sharp drop if the dividend gets cut. LINE's 7.5% dividend yield has supported the company's high unit price even as its fundamentals have faded; in Q1, LINE failed to produce enough cash to cover its distribution, even by its generous measure of distributable cash flow. LNCO -6.8% premarket. [View news story]
tried the above link in the comment, Barrons blocked viewing, wants subscription. Hope SA asks Barrons to provide viewing for those coming from SA, given the traffic SA will drive them
A Real Dividend Growth Machine: Q1 2013 Review [View article]
Good article for the US equities and USD portion of one's income portfolio.
I'm curious to hear how author diversifies income stream from US equities, and especially the USD, which I would not want more than a portion of my long term wealth or income stream in, thanks to prevailing Fed policy of tossing USD under the bus. Currency risk not a near term problem given that EUR, JPY, GBP, CHF all arguably worse over long term (all for different reasons), but USD still at very real risk of accelerating loss of purchasing power (no, you're not sheltered from that if you only spend in USD).
Canadian, Aussie, and other stocks linked to healthier currencies help hege USD risk. Although global stock indexes tend to move in the same direct and so would move more or less with US stocks.
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
WW,
Thrilled to hear it, & thanks for sharing that here. I encourage any other readers with similar experiences to share them & help spread the word.
Few are even aware of the need to diversify asset and income stream exposure by currency. Fewer still are aware that there are Simpler safer ways to diversify than generally covered in forex or foreign investing guides.
I myself can't promote the book too blatantly on SA, so your comments are really welcomed.
I'd encourage everyone to at least take a look at the book's amazon page or its description on by website to see if it appeals to them.
I'm fighting a lot of resistance in getting the message out.
Some just dismiss forex as too high risk (a stereotype that need not be per the methods I describe in the book), which is a shame given that conservative forex trading is one of the best and at times only way to play strong market pullbacks. That option could come in really handy in the coming years.
Others are just intimidated by the idea of having to do something new and uncomfortable, like learn about how to diversify by currency exposure as well as asset class and sector.
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
thanks for comments viewed another way, I'd say the big question for all is whether they're really willing to give up sovereignty for sake of EU.
In the end, especially given the pain involved, not at all sure voters will go with this, either in funding or debtor nations.
Also, EUR started with premise it would be a hard currency. That's changed, and will need to continue changing as EU needs to print to fund more aid. Not at all sure Germans, Dutch, Finns will accept that any more than debtor nation populations.
In the end, EU doesn't have the characteristics shared by the very few other successful monetary unions. Whether it breaks down completely or just splits, that's yet to be seen. Unclear.
Atlantic Power Management Discusses Q1 2013 Results - Earnings Call Transcript [View article]
Linn Energy (LINE) CEO Mark Ellis disputes the assertion in the negative Barron's article that its units may be worth far less than the current quote: "We've had three different analyses done... None of the valuations [is] anywhere close to what was represented over the weekend in the Barron's article." LINE plans to raise its dividend ~6.2% this year, not cut it. LINE +1%, LNCO +1.3% premarket. [View news story]
. “We continue to believe LINE’s distribution is secure and poised to grow at a mid-single-digit annual growth rate over the next five years,” the Wells Fargo analyst wrote. Also, “we continue to believe the LNCO financing vehicle provides the company with a competitive advantage and could help both support distribution growth and improve Linn’s leverage ratios over the coming years.”
also per mlpprofits.com:
The proprietor of the bearishly disposed hedge fund cited started this shop only in November, reportedly with just $50 million in assets. Among those on the other end of this trade is the investing legend Leon Cooperman, whose Omega Advisors fund held $150 million worth of Linn at year-end"
Hmmm. who do you go with? not hard choice
Boost Your Portfolio Returns With MLP Funds [View article]
re: UBIT/UBTI: UBTI generally not an issue for retirement accounts unless holding 6 figure positions, meanwhile MLP outperformance over past decade far exceeds competing income investments in both income and appreciation. Also, while markets in general have risen under Fed's liquidity pump, the growth story for many of the MLPs is real due to new energy sources and technologies, which have generated a need for $100-200 bln in cap spending in industries in which MLPs are located.
re: MLP funds: Those with C-corp organization sacrifice return due to corp structure,like:
Taxation at entity level
Need to retain cash to pay for future tax payments on deferred taxes
fees
Some of these use leverage to make up for return lost, which introduces own risk
Some ETFs tend underperform index due above burdens on return
ETNs bear credit risk of issuer and liable to lose value if issuer takes credit rating hit, these are unsecured and so risk total loss if creditor insolvency
funds have their place but generally agreed to underperform comparable basket of MLPs
RE: political risk: none seen at this time. Risk of elimination like that seen in 2006 in Canada minimal for a number of reasons:
In 1987 Congress confronted the issue of non-resource companies abusing MLP status. Rather than choosing they ‘toss out the baby with bathwater” approach favored in Ottawa, they chose to to tighten restrictions
Fracking technology has created unmet demand for pipelines and other midstream and gathering services. MLPs offer cheaper capital and better encourage formation of these needed midstream assets needed to exploit new energy sources and technologies .
Current trend, if anything, is for Congress to expand MLP status. The most recent MLP legislation is the MLP Parity Act, aimed at expanding qualified MLP activities to certain renewable energy industries which have thus far struggled to find funding. Allowing the MLP structure would make it easier to attract capital, especially from large, traditional energy firms which could create MLPs in order to to monetize/offload renewable assets by dropping them into their own newly created MLP, which would transfer cash to the parent sponsor/creator by selling shares at higher yields than the parent can due to the MLP pass through nature that cuts out corporate tax
Significant risk: field decline risk – some of new sources from fracking showing faster than expected depletion
Environment: lots of evidence of problems, but paucity of conclusive studies, partly due to reluctance of governments to fund studies that might kill off big revenue generator.
Admittedly, politics of 'fairness' (aka tax the productive ones) may trump reason.
Biggest risk is that tho MLPs have historically low correlation to overall market that correlation not only exists it tends to rise in times of selloffs. A risk given market's elevated level that is not supported by traditional drivers of new highs like robust global growth and corp earnings outlook, but rather central bank money pump and financial repression (aka low yields in bonds)
Finally, all MLPs are USD denominated and so,unlike the sadly departed Canadian royalty trusts, don't provided badly needed income instrument with USD diversification. (though hard asset link of most MLP mitigates inflation risk somewhat.
key point to know with funds is that they're an imperfect tradeoff - solves taxation reporting/payment issues at cost of lower yield and at times different set of risks. Again, UBIT not an issue for most retirement a/cs unless have 6 figure position, even then if keep to lowest UBTI level MLP return may still justify
Milton Cooper Has Very Deep Roots In This Blue Chip REIT [View article]
KIM a core family holding for decades...wish all had worked that well
Linn Energy (LINE) -5.1% premarket after a weekend Barron's article warns of a sharp drop if the dividend gets cut. LINE's 7.5% dividend yield has supported the company's high unit price even as its fundamentals have faded; in Q1, LINE failed to produce enough cash to cover its distribution, even by its generous measure of distributable cash flow. LNCO -6.8% premarket. [View news story]
anyone know another way to view the article?
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ps: I was one of AT's early advocates on SA back in 09
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Lots of better places to put your money if you are looking for and energy play than ANY of these mentioned IN THIS ARTICLE imho
For example? curious to hear thoughts
A Real Dividend Growth Machine: Q1 2013 Review [View article]
I'm curious to hear how author diversifies income stream from US equities, and especially the USD, which I would not want more than a portion of my long term wealth or income stream in, thanks to prevailing Fed policy of tossing USD under the bus. Currency risk not a near term problem given that EUR, JPY, GBP, CHF all arguably worse over long term (all for different reasons), but USD still at very real risk of accelerating loss of purchasing power (no, you're not sheltered from that if you only spend in USD).
Canadian, Aussie, and other stocks linked to healthier currencies help hege USD risk. Although global stock indexes tend to move in the same direct and so would move more or less with US stocks.
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7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
Thrilled to hear it, & thanks for sharing that here. I encourage any other readers with similar experiences to share them & help spread the word.
Few are even aware of the need to diversify asset and income stream exposure by currency. Fewer still are aware that there are Simpler safer ways to diversify than generally covered in forex or foreign investing guides.
I myself can't promote the book too blatantly on SA, so your comments are really welcomed.
I'd encourage everyone to at least take a look at the book's amazon page or its description on by website to see if it appeals to them.
I'm fighting a lot of resistance in getting the message out.
Some just dismiss forex as too high risk (a stereotype that need not be per the methods I describe in the book), which is a shame given that conservative forex trading is one of the best and at times only way to play strong market pullbacks. That option could come in really handy in the coming years.
Others are just intimidated by the idea of having to do something new and uncomfortable, like learn about how to diversify by currency exposure as well as asset class and sector.
Thanks again, Cliff
7 Cyprus Ramifications And Other Lessons For This Week And Beyond- Part II [View article]
viewed another way, I'd say the big question for all is whether they're really willing to give up sovereignty for sake of EU.
In the end, especially given the pain involved, not at all sure voters will go with this, either in funding or debtor nations.
Also, EUR started with premise it would be a hard currency. That's changed, and will need to continue changing as EU needs to print to fund more aid. Not at all sure Germans, Dutch, Finns will accept that any more than debtor nation populations.
In the end, EU doesn't have the characteristics shared by the very few other successful monetary unions. Whether it breaks down completely or just splits, that's yet to be seen. Unclear.