Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
zorro2828: A lot of good golfers have relatively strong arm muscles. That part is not just being overweight. Think roughly Hal Sutton girth when he won the Player's Championship.
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captainccs: First if you love these shirts so much, why od you want to sell them?
Second I have over the years bought a huge number of different manufacturer's golf shirts. The Wal-Mart ones are as good for palying golf as any I have tried. I also like NIKE. I might like LULU's. However, from looking at the catalog, the sleeves are likely too tight; and the body fit is also likely too tight. I tend to have thick arms. Plus I am a bit overweight these days; and even when I wasn't I preferred more room, so my swing wouldn't be restricted.
I haven't been palying much gold lately; but I was a near scratch golfer when I was last playing more regularly. It could be that I have slightly more demanding shirt requirements than you do?
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
AlphaFan: Retail buying is a personal choice business. Peter Lynch often used to take advice from his kids about retail stocks (which ones were popular). So no personal choice is not a waste of time when you are discussing retail stocks. Few things are more personal than clothing. If you do not understand this, you would be wise to stay out of retail altogether.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
Shopaholic: You sound like you have good reasons for wanting to pay more for the product that suits you best. However, you have to realize that the great majority of LULU customers do not run marathons or half marathons. For running a mile once or twice a week, almost any decent kind of pant will do fine. You are in a likely 0.1% category. Most owners of the pants are lucky to go do yoga in them. Perhaps they also run a little bit. They buy the pants mostly for the marketing hype/chic-ness, which as I have tried to point out can be a very transitory thing.
If the company had to survive on the buying by the truly hard-core runners, hwo long do you think it would last? Not long...
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
I do not buy Lululemon products, so I will have to make due with a NIKE example.
When I buy NIKE polos I admit I do it partially due to the hype. I generally know they make good quality products, but I do not specifically buy a polo for that. Wicking ability is a must for me; but again many manufacturers provide this. I buy the polo I like best most of the time. In other words, other than a general quality assurance, I just want the polo that I think I look best in; and I admit I am a bit swayed by the hype of the top athletes promoting the NIKE goods.
Most people I know buy for essentially the same reasons. As an exception, I do admit to buying New Balance athletic shoes because they make size that fits my foot nearly perfectly. They have a wider array of widths in the various sizes than most manufacturers. I admit to adapting to their styles because of the fit issue.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
captainccs: You said, "Anyone who compares Wal Mart with Lululemon does not understand retailing. Heck, you can probably get cheaper clothes in a good will store. LOL".
You compared Wal-Mart shirts to good will shirts. That was a direct insult to Wal-mart shirts. It was also an insult to anyone who would buy a Wal-Mart shirt. Yet you have provided not one single good reason I should prefer a Lululemon shirt over a Wal-mart shirt other than the ad man mediated perceived presitge of a Lululemon shirt over a Wal-Mart shirt.
You keep instead saying that I do not understand retailing. What you seem to be overlooking is that I understand very well that the selling hype is the differentiating factor in people paying more for Lululemon shirts (and Nike shirts). In other words, these shirts have higher perceived prestige (to some this equates to value). You say price, fit, comfort, and really looks too are not reasons that people buy clothes. In fact I have largely agreed with this. I say they have often bought into the hype of the ad men. Most of the shirts have good quality. For instance, I have not notice bad quality in my Wal-Mart wicking shirts or in my Nike wicking shirts. I haven't notice one is demonstrably better than the other.
By not defining any specific reason, you leave the readers to think that you believe the hype is the only determining factor. Yes, I would agree with this to a large extent. I even admit to being affected by it somethimes. They convince you that the brand name is worth several times more because it is the brand name.
If you have some other specific reason, please say so. I am sure other readers would be interested to hear it. As it is your lack of a specific reason (instead just a non-specific insult to my understanding), is just an indication of how little you understand how you are being manipulated. If you cannot specify a reason so that others can understand it, you either do not have one; or you do not understand your reason yourself.
Keep in mind that part of the thesis of this article is that the hype eventually dies out without some excellent efforts to keep this from happening. Nike has managed this by continually updating its athlete promoters to the most successful ones currently available. This makes their hype remain current. One of the problems I foresaw for LULU was that they do not seem to have this.
L.A. Gear was one of the hottest products around for several years. I am sure no one believed it would go bankrupt during its most popular years. The fact is that the L.A. Gear story has repeated itself many many times in the market, although sometimes the companies just faded to insignificance instead of bankruptcy.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
captainccs: I am guessing you don't play golf. Wal-Mart's wicking polos are continuously cool (wick sweat away); and they allow for a full swing without constriction. They also generally look good. From the snug fits I see on the Lululemon web site, I am guessing their shirts are not nearly as suitable for golf. But hey, those ad men are good. They have obviously completely indoctrinated you.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
zorro2828: You were the one who was quick with the insults. Perhaps you need to examine your own character. Most people I know well think I have good character. I went to an elite boarding prep school for high school. Some have likened my school to 4 years of boot camp. It tended to instill character. I would generally say that most if not all of the people in my class were of good if not great character.
You spout a lot of words with little behind them. The word hypocrisy comes to mind. You just seem an unhappy person.
I like to think I am still moderately good looking. People in my family tend to have long-lived good looks. I also like to think I have character. I enjoy thinking well of myself in both categories.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
zorro2828: LULU has many more stores in the US than it has in Canada. As for falling over myself. One of the guys in my former golf club was also what many would call a clothes horse. As for myself, many people have called me good looking. In college many good looking women asked me to make sure I got my picture in the year book. I am guessing zero asked you.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
zorro2828: Some people shop for groceries at Wal-Mart. It is then easy to buy many other things there. For instance, I bought a TV there at a very good price. You seem to be overly driven by the "status symbol" marketing that the ad men try to hook you on. Maybe when you get older you will realize that much of that is just hype. Do you think Warren Buffet buys only the most expensive clothes? I don't.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
zorro2828: Actually I know of several people (very well off) in my former golf club who actually liked the styles, the fit, and the wicking characterisitics of the Wal-Mart wicking polos. I can guarantee you that they had plenty of money to buy whatever they liked. I own some Wal-Mart polos (some Nike too) myself. I own no Lululemon shirts of any kind. Not everyone is as driven by the "status symbol" effect as you seem to be. I think some of my Wal-Mart wicking polos are among my best looking shirts. I do admit that I have been called a clothes horse (I have been said to look good in anything).
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
captainccs:
If the disclosure says I may go long LULU, I made a mistake in entry (or some other error occurred). I am thinking of going short LULU, but I am not thinking of going long it.
5 Names With Something To Prove This Quarter [View article]
Did you notice a lot of the people at LULU are selling: Bonnie Fung 6,944 shares Chloe Gow-Jarrett 35,916 shares. Karen Wyder 27,732 shares Christopher Ng 40,000 shares David M. Mussafer 21,301 shares Julianne Lee 50,000 shares Dennis J. Wilson (chairman) 203,582 shares
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
A lot of good golfers have relatively strong arm muscles. That part is not just being overweight. Think roughly Hal Sutton girth when he won the Player's Championship.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
First if you love these shirts so much, why od you want to sell them?
Second I have over the years bought a huge number of different manufacturer's golf shirts. The Wal-Mart ones are as good for palying golf as any I have tried. I also like NIKE. I might like LULU's. However, from looking at the catalog, the sleeves are likely too tight; and the body fit is also likely too tight. I tend to have thick arms. Plus I am a bit overweight these days; and even when I wasn't I preferred more room, so my swing wouldn't be restricted.
I haven't been palying much gold lately; but I was a near scratch golfer when I was last playing more regularly. It could be that I have slightly more demanding shirt requirements than you do?
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
Retail buying is a personal choice business. Peter Lynch often used to take advice from his kids about retail stocks (which ones were popular). So no personal choice is not a waste of time when you are discussing retail stocks. Few things are more personal than clothing. If you do not understand this, you would be wise to stay out of retail altogether.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
You sound like you have good reasons for wanting to pay more for the product that suits you best. However, you have to realize that the great majority of LULU customers do not run marathons or half marathons. For running a mile once or twice a week, almost any decent kind of pant will do fine. You are in a likely 0.1% category. Most owners of the pants are lucky to go do yoga in them. Perhaps they also run a little bit. They buy the pants mostly for the marketing hype/chic-ness, which as I have tried to point out can be a very transitory thing.
If the company had to survive on the buying by the truly hard-core runners, hwo long do you think it would last? Not long...
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
I guess that means you took a big hit on CRM earnings today AHs.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
When I buy NIKE polos I admit I do it partially due to the hype. I generally know they make good quality products, but I do not specifically buy a polo for that. Wicking ability is a must for me; but again many manufacturers provide this. I buy the polo I like best most of the time. In other words, other than a general quality assurance, I just want the polo that I think I look best in; and I admit I am a bit swayed by the hype of the top athletes promoting the NIKE goods.
Most people I know buy for essentially the same reasons. As an exception, I do admit to buying New Balance athletic shoes because they make size that fits my foot nearly perfectly. They have a wider array of widths in the various sizes than most manufacturers. I admit to adapting to their styles because of the fit issue.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
You said, "Anyone who compares Wal Mart with Lululemon does not understand retailing. Heck, you can probably get cheaper clothes in a good will store. LOL".
You compared Wal-Mart shirts to good will shirts. That was a direct insult to Wal-mart shirts. It was also an insult to anyone who would buy a Wal-Mart shirt. Yet you have provided not one single good reason I should prefer a Lululemon shirt over a Wal-mart shirt other than the ad man mediated perceived presitge of a Lululemon shirt over a Wal-Mart shirt.
You keep instead saying that I do not understand retailing. What you seem to be overlooking is that I understand very well that the selling hype is the differentiating factor in people paying more for Lululemon shirts (and Nike shirts). In other words, these shirts have higher perceived prestige (to some this equates to value). You say price, fit, comfort, and really looks too are not reasons that people buy clothes. In fact I have largely agreed with this. I say they have often bought into the hype of the ad men. Most of the shirts have good quality. For instance, I have not notice bad quality in my Wal-Mart wicking shirts or in my Nike wicking shirts. I haven't notice one is demonstrably better than the other.
By not defining any specific reason, you leave the readers to think that you believe the hype is the only determining factor. Yes, I would agree with this to a large extent. I even admit to being affected by it somethimes. They convince you that the brand name is worth several times more because it is the brand name.
If you have some other specific reason, please say so. I am sure other readers would be interested to hear it. As it is your lack of a specific reason (instead just a non-specific insult to my understanding), is just an indication of how little you understand how you are being manipulated. If you cannot specify a reason so that others can understand it, you either do not have one; or you do not understand your reason yourself.
Keep in mind that part of the thesis of this article is that the hype eventually dies out without some excellent efforts to keep this from happening. Nike has managed this by continually updating its athlete promoters to the most successful ones currently available. This makes their hype remain current. One of the problems I foresaw for LULU was that they do not seem to have this.
L.A. Gear was one of the hottest products around for several years. I am sure no one believed it would go bankrupt during its most popular years. The fact is that the L.A. Gear story has repeated itself many many times in the market, although sometimes the companies just faded to insignificance instead of bankruptcy.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
I am guessing you don't play golf. Wal-Mart's wicking polos are continuously cool (wick sweat away); and they allow for a full swing without constriction. They also generally look good. From the snug fits I see on the Lululemon web site, I am guessing their shirts are not nearly as suitable for golf. But hey, those ad men are good. They have obviously completely indoctrinated you.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
You were the one who was quick with the insults. Perhaps you need to examine your own character. Most people I know well think I have good character. I went to an elite boarding prep school for high school. Some have likened my school to 4 years of boot camp. It tended to instill character. I would generally say that most if not all of the people in my class were of good if not great character.
You spout a lot of words with little behind them. The word hypocrisy comes to mind. You just seem an unhappy person.
I like to think I am still moderately good looking. People in my family tend to have long-lived good looks. I also like to think I have character. I enjoy thinking well of myself in both categories.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
LULU has many more stores in the US than it has in Canada. As for falling over myself. One of the guys in my former golf club was also what many would call a clothes horse. As for myself, many people have called me good looking. In college many good looking women asked me to make sure I got my picture in the year book. I am guessing zero asked you.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
Some people shop for groceries at Wal-Mart. It is then easy to buy many other things there. For instance, I bought a TV there at a very good price. You seem to be overly driven by the "status symbol" marketing that the ad men try to hook you on. Maybe when you get older you will realize that much of that is just hype. Do you think Warren Buffet buys only the most expensive clothes? I don't.
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
Actually I know of several people (very well off) in my former golf club who actually liked the styles, the fit, and the wicking characterisitics of the Wal-Mart wicking polos. I can guarantee you that they had plenty of money to buy whatever they liked. I own some Wal-Mart polos (some Nike too) myself. I own no Lululemon shirts of any kind. Not everyone is as driven by the "status symbol" effect as you seem to be. I think some of my Wal-Mart wicking polos are among my best looking shirts. I do admit that I have been called a clothes horse (I have been said to look good in anything).
Kick Far Overbought, Triple Topped Lululemon To The Curb [View article]
If the disclosure says I may go long LULU, I made a mistake in entry (or some other error occurred). I am thinking of going short LULU, but I am not thinking of going long it.
5 Names With Something To Prove This Quarter [View article]
Bonnie Fung 6,944 shares
Chloe Gow-Jarrett 35,916 shares.
Karen Wyder 27,732 shares
Christopher Ng 40,000 shares
David M. Mussafer 21,301 shares
Julianne Lee 50,000 shares
Dennis J. Wilson (chairman) 203,582 shares
Dump this before it dumps you.