The Real Time Infrastructure Ultimatum [View article]
Feyeleanor:
Thanks for the comment. I think as soon as an I2.0 solution is proven there will be a race to deploy. It will transform hte economics of hte data center and justify a new level of capital investments in computing technology. Those who have it will benefit, those who sell high opex gear will see increased margin pressures.
Infrastructure 2.0 Outlook: Timing Is Everything [View article]
I think there are at least two approaches. You invest in the service providers or htose who sell equipment/solutions to them. For service providers its a question of who can deliver "real" cloud services (versus the marketing hype). This in itself is a lively discussion on tech blogs/Twitter etc. For the suppliers of gear/solutions its a matter of who you think will deliver the best solutions (the cloud switches/meash/automat... and be designed in by the service providers.
It is very messy at this point placing bets on who will win. The point of this article was to suggest that a big shift is coming and there are a set of milestones that one could follow to help guide a strategy. I think that Cisco, Arista (privately held) and VMware are hte furthest along to delivering on the promise of I2.0, but they certainly don't have it wrapped up. Citrix has been complementing their legacy middleware expertise and base with some great acquisitions and has IMHO been building a solid ecosystem. Yet I think VMware has led when it comes to enterprise go to market. They were the first to embrace the power of virtualization security, even during the early stage one virtualization deployments; and IMHO they were also faster in building relationships with the network equipment/security leaders.
That being said, the fruit of those relationships has been long time coming. I attribute to the challenges "binding" virtual and physical infrastructure and engaging network teams. When that happens (and by whom) will be IMHO all that matters.
I'm not making investment advice... but rather offering a perspective on tech trends that could be game changers. One cannot rule out Microsoft or Amazon either... because of footprint (MSFT) and business model compatability (AMZN).
All opinion.
Greg
On Oct 15 11:29 AM mws wrote:
> Mr. Ness, > > May I ask what you perceive to be the best way to invest in this > "groundbreaking" technology. Are you a proponent of the "Citrix Ready > Open Networking Program" and its partners: Ankeena, Apere, Arista, > Dell, Fujitsu, HP, Intel, Joyent, Oracle, SoftLayer, Trend Micro > and Vyatta? > > Thanks in advance for any insights you can give both myself and other > readers.
On the Future of Networks and Moving Data Centers [View article]
User:
Thanks for the question. I didn't know the answer so I forwarded it to Mark Thiele wo did. Here is his answer:
"If we look at available disk technology today we'll see that spinning disk is reaching a plateau of capability. Size is great, but performance can't keep up. The impact of this trend in disk is that we will have enormous capacity, but potentially reduced performance with higher overhead. While in the SSD market the technology is still fairly new, and we can expect to see continued rapid improvements in size, performance and cost. I believe we can expect to see the application of Moore's Law to this new branch of technology in the storage family of products. Lastly SSD is generally more efficient from a power perspective, so we can expect to see a strong drive in this direction going forward."
On the Future of Networks and Moving Data Centers [View article]
Michael:
Good point. There are longer term fixed factors as well. Those factors would drive your initial selectoion of sites. Then there are short term fluctuations/changes that would drive movement. The fatsre you can react the better you perform over longer periods.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Leit:
That's certainly a fair comment. Although I do think that VMware has done more with the network vendors than hte others in terms of grappling with the network effects of virtualization. Point well taken.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Phil:
I wasn't saying that the comparison was based on an identical set of impacts, but rather that in both cases the demands on the network were underestimated. If you are in the virtualization-lite camp then you perhaps won't see material demands, except perhaps related to security and vmotion (I/O) within the vLAN. Some firewalls and ids solutions might require hairpins and extra processor cycles depending upon how they're deployed. With VoIP the network challenges were discussed openly in the press... Dow, City of Houston.
Thanks for the comment Greg
On Aug 31 08:25 PM Phil Dewey wrote:
> Comparing VOIP's impact on the network to Virtualization is not valid. > VOIP put new, real time stresses on the network. Virtualization removes > them from the LAN and puts them potentially on the WAN. The idea > that there will be a valid use case for moving a VM across a wide > distance is goofy (much less a running VM). Data will move the, VMs > will stay where they are. Taking advantage of cheaper compute resources > elsewhere will mean getting a COPY of a VM to materialize at the > lowest cost facility and the data there to use it. > One won't move a VM but rather a description of it, a formula of > how to construct it and the data it needs to do it's job.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Wisdom:
That is certainly one of the schools of thought... driven in part by the success of the VLAN. The second school shows a peak to the tactical VLAN payoff and a disruptive evolution of the network.
VoIP ultimately drove more network revenue because it increased hte demands on the gear. Very few pros considered those impacts for a variety of reasons... but then they happened.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Thanks. I'm tempted to post the agenda for the Infrastructure 2.0 blackboard session at infra20.com to "address" some of htese comments. Let me check with the event sposnors/champions.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Greg:
More than Infoblox. Addressing is a core issue... but work needs to be done with multiple players. Ultimately the network, systems and endpoints need to know each other's status on a continual basis. That's bigger than the automation of DNS/DHCP and IPAM etc as you likely know.
Thats why I think the SRI event is happening and Infoblox is a core part of the conversation. It will take a collaborative effort among multiple companies to establish connectivity intelligence in a way to build infrastructure 2.0.
This matters (the shape of this evolution) because it will impact who is relevant and strategic to virtual and hybrid infrastructure (the future of networking as we know it).
Thanks for the shameless plug opp... but I'll pass and answer that Infoblox is very relevant/strategic/nec... to this direction but not the entire solution. That is why there are several companies talking about this issue and SRI is sponsoring an event.
Stay tuned. :) G
On Aug 31 12:49 PM Gregman2 wrote:
> So, connectivity intelligence=infoblox. Anything else?;-)
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Z:
There are a few more titans in the battle but I think you've identified those who could be called "strategic" (value add) versus "tactical" (cheap IT service). I think how IT evolves and how well the network embraces the virtual infrastructure may have a lot to do with who wins the most.
Storms Ahead for Cloud Computing Start-Ups, Well-Entrenched Players? [View article]
Saasy:
Thanks for your comments. Great point.
Arun:
I haven't been following SAP that closely. AT htis point I think Oracle is more interesting given recent acquisitions and Ellison's decade-old netbook vision.
Reality Checks for the Billowing Cloud Computing Fantasy [View article]
Josh:
There are solutions that allow for desktops in the cloud. Yes, there is an OS. But the link between hardware and OS is more tenuous.
You can read the article to say that enterprise networks are not ready for private cloud because of security, management/addressing, throughput and storage issues.
You can also read the article (plus others) to say that cloud can decouple the tight relationship between the OS, hard drive and service... introducing new competition to the preload software business. With virtualization and cloud users will have more choices (both in OS and apps and services).
Reality Checks for the Billowing Cloud Computing Fantasy [View article]
Disappointed:
The issue is much bigger than "cloud complication." Its about risks and significant tech barriers to real enterprise adoption and the lack of preparedness for networks. Lets put it this way: if cloud isn't viable for the enterprise how viable will it be for SMB? Yes it can replace some apps (with thin apps and multi-tennant hosting); but if it isn't economical (the elastic intercloud that can follow the moon) and is really just larger VLANs with more VM density... then it won't live up to the "Big Switch" hype.
That issue may noty be that interesting to you, but its an important consideration for enterprises exploring cloud service (versus software as a service or infrastructure as a service, etc) models. And there is a sizable quantity of traditional servers powered up 24X7 (wasting energy) that could be replaced if the issues are properly addressed. If they're not, then we will go on longer wasting the energy used to power these servers while they're not be usied. According to the panel at FIRE, the amount consumed annually by those servers amounts to the entire amount produced by wind (I think it was about 5% that Gouraly mentioned).
The Real Time Infrastructure Ultimatum [View article]
Thanks for the comment. I think as soon as an I2.0 solution is proven there will be a race to deploy. It will transform hte economics of hte data center and justify a new level of capital investments in computing technology. Those who have it will benefit, those who sell high opex gear will see increased margin pressures.
Thanks for your comment.
G
Infrastructure 2.0 Outlook: Timing Is Everything [View article]
It is very messy at this point placing bets on who will win. The point of this article was to suggest that a big shift is coming and there are a set of milestones that one could follow to help guide a strategy. I think that Cisco, Arista (privately held) and VMware are hte furthest along to delivering on the promise of I2.0, but they certainly don't have it wrapped up. Citrix has been complementing their legacy middleware expertise and base with some great acquisitions and has IMHO been building a solid ecosystem. Yet I think VMware has led when it comes to enterprise go to market. They were the first to embrace the power of virtualization security, even during the early stage one virtualization deployments; and IMHO they were also faster in building relationships with the network equipment/security leaders.
That being said, the fruit of those relationships has been long time coming. I attribute to the challenges "binding" virtual and physical infrastructure and engaging network teams. When that happens (and by whom) will be IMHO all that matters.
I'm not making investment advice... but rather offering a perspective on tech trends that could be game changers. One cannot rule out Microsoft or Amazon either... because of footprint (MSFT) and business model compatability (AMZN).
All opinion.
Greg
On Oct 15 11:29 AM mws wrote:
> Mr. Ness,
>
> May I ask what you perceive to be the best way to invest in this
> "groundbreaking" technology. Are you a proponent of the "Citrix Ready
> Open Networking Program" and its partners: Ankeena, Apere, Arista,
> Dell, Fujitsu, HP, Intel, Joyent, Oracle, SoftLayer, Trend Micro
> and Vyatta?
>
> Thanks in advance for any insights you can give both myself and other
> readers.
On the Future of Networks and Moving Data Centers [View article]
G
On the Future of Networks and Moving Data Centers [View article]
Thanks for the question. I didn't know the answer so I forwarded it to Mark Thiele wo did. Here is his answer:
"If we look at available disk technology today we'll see that spinning disk is reaching a plateau of capability. Size is great, but performance can't keep up. The impact of this trend in disk is that we will have enormous capacity, but potentially reduced performance with higher overhead. While in the SSD market the technology is still fairly new, and we can expect to see continued rapid improvements in size, performance and cost. I believe we can expect to see the application of Moore's Law to this new branch of technology in the storage family of products. Lastly SSD is generally more efficient from a power perspective, so we can expect to see a strong drive in this direction going forward."
Thanks!
Greg
On the Future of Networks and Moving Data Centers [View article]
Good point. There are longer term fixed factors as well. Those factors would drive your initial selectoion of sites. Then there are short term fluctuations/changes that would drive movement. The fatsre you can react the better you perform over longer periods.
Thanks
Greg
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
That's certainly a fair comment. Although I do think that VMware has done more with the network vendors than hte others in terms of grappling with the network effects of virtualization. Point well taken.
Sincerely,
Greg
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
I wasn't saying that the comparison was based on an identical set of impacts, but rather that in both cases the demands on the network were underestimated. If you are in the virtualization-lite camp then you perhaps won't see material demands, except perhaps related to security and vmotion (I/O) within the vLAN. Some firewalls and ids solutions might require hairpins and extra processor cycles depending upon how they're deployed. With VoIP the network challenges were discussed openly in the press... Dow, City of Houston.
Thanks for the comment
Greg
On Aug 31 08:25 PM Phil Dewey wrote:
> Comparing VOIP's impact on the network to Virtualization is not valid.
> VOIP put new, real time stresses on the network. Virtualization removes
> them from the LAN and puts them potentially on the WAN. The idea
> that there will be a valid use case for moving a VM across a wide
> distance is goofy (much less a running VM). Data will move the, VMs
> will stay where they are. Taking advantage of cheaper compute resources
> elsewhere will mean getting a COPY of a VM to materialize at the
> lowest cost facility and the data there to use it.
> One won't move a VM but rather a description of it, a formula of
> how to construct it and the data it needs to do it's job.
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
That is certainly one of the schools of thought... driven in part by the success of the VLAN. The second school shows a peak to the tactical VLAN payoff and a disruptive evolution of the network.
VoIP ultimately drove more network revenue because it increased hte demands on the gear. Very few pros considered those impacts for a variety of reasons... but then they happened.
Thanks!
Greg
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
Thx
Greg
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
More than Infoblox. Addressing is a core issue... but work needs to be done with multiple players. Ultimately the network, systems and endpoints need to know each other's status on a continual basis. That's bigger than the automation of DNS/DHCP and IPAM etc as you likely know.
Thats why I think the SRI event is happening and Infoblox is a core part of the conversation. It will take a collaborative effort among multiple companies to establish connectivity intelligence in a way to build infrastructure 2.0.
This matters (the shape of this evolution) because it will impact who is relevant and strategic to virtual and hybrid infrastructure (the future of networking as we know it).
Thanks for the shameless plug opp... but I'll pass and answer that Infoblox is very relevant/strategic/nec... to this direction but not the entire solution. That is why there are several companies talking about this issue and SRI is sponsoring an event.
Stay tuned. :)
G
On Aug 31 12:49 PM Gregman2 wrote:
> So, connectivity intelligence=infoblox. Anything else?;-)
Will Virtualization Undermine Network Equipment Vendors? [View article]
There are a few more titans in the battle but I think you've identified those who could be called "strategic" (value add) versus "tactical" (cheap IT service). I think how IT evolves and how well the network embraces the virtual infrastructure may have a lot to do with who wins the most.
Interesting blog by Chris Hoff: www.rationalsurvivabil...
Thx
G
Google: Clouds, Curtains and Confusion [View article]
G
Storms Ahead for Cloud Computing Start-Ups, Well-Entrenched Players? [View article]
Thanks for your comments. Great point.
Arun:
I haven't been following SAP that closely. AT htis point I think Oracle is more interesting given recent acquisitions and Ellison's decade-old netbook vision.
Thx
Greg
Reality Checks for the Billowing Cloud Computing Fantasy [View article]
There are solutions that allow for desktops in the cloud. Yes, there is an OS. But the link between hardware and OS is more tenuous.
You can read the article to say that enterprise networks are not ready for private cloud because of security, management/addressing, throughput and storage issues.
You can also read the article (plus others) to say that cloud can decouple the tight relationship between the OS, hard drive and service... introducing new competition to the preload software business. With virtualization and cloud users will have more choices (both in OS and apps and services).
Thanks,
Greg
Reality Checks for the Billowing Cloud Computing Fantasy [View article]
The issue is much bigger than "cloud complication." Its about risks and significant tech barriers to real enterprise adoption and the lack of preparedness for networks. Lets put it this way: if cloud isn't viable for the enterprise how viable will it be for SMB? Yes it can replace some apps (with thin apps and multi-tennant hosting); but if it isn't economical (the elastic intercloud that can follow the moon) and is really just larger VLANs with more VM density... then it won't live up to the "Big Switch" hype.
That issue may noty be that interesting to you, but its an important consideration for enterprises exploring cloud service (versus software as a service or infrastructure as a service, etc) models. And there is a sizable quantity of traditional servers powered up 24X7 (wasting energy) that could be replaced if the issues are properly addressed. If they're not, then we will go on longer wasting the energy used to power these servers while they're not be usied. According to the panel at FIRE, the amount consumed annually by those servers amounts to the entire amount produced by wind (I think it was about 5% that Gouraly mentioned).
Greg