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  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    And talk about desperate? These professional short sellers are desperate in my opinion, to write as many articles as they can before the results of the Deloitte investigation is done. Their time, IMO, is limited because if Deloitte clears it, then I think we see all these short sellers go away.
    Aug 11 10:41 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Ok, the whole smoking gun thing is done. No one cares if one reporter made some opinion interjection. Deloitte, a very sophisticated financial and audit firm, will be looking at the same things as this reporter and making its own opinion. So stay tuned for that. I think we'd all like to see what a legitimate financial firm with years of history, accountability and identity has to say about this. Not some anonymous blogger.

    Beyond that, talk about insider ownership? ONP is 30% owned by insiders. They only floated about 65% of its shares. Does that sound like a company committing fraud to you? Not me.
    Aug 11 10:36 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Just to elaborate, I did a quick find replace and this article is not that long as it is, but references MW's currently retracted report 22 times. So again, over and over this author just says things along the lines of "According to MW..."
    Aug 11 09:20 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Well nice work Chinese Company Analyst. You could have saved us all a lot of back and forth if you had even known about this link. Until Waldo bailed you out, you had not produced this link, which shows both of us that neither you nor me really knew where to get this article. So lets let Waldo take over your arguments for now. At least he writes better, makes slightly better arguments and seems to be more resourceful. Besides that, this article from what google translator provided me just cites and references MW allegations, and does little make its own analysis-- similar to all the law firms that are now scavenging, they just reference MW's report (which has been retracted by its author). Also, it has little to do with your original article you published here. You're just throwing a bunch of stuff up against the wall to see what sticks, and this wouldn't have even stuck if Waldo didn't bail you out with a link.
    Aug 11 09:16 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Whether or not there was ever an article there, it sure as heck isn't there now... There is now way that any one would consider good report linking to an article that has been phsyically and intentionally removed from publication. Yet, you not only reference this said removed article but you also somehow have an old PFD copy of it. You say the meat of the article has significant because of the reputation of the publisher, but the publisher itself has removed it! So why do you keep referencing it if its publishing does not want to keep it under its name?
    Aug 10 11:33 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    hah, you're too funny brother. When it comes to alleging fraud on a huge scale, what you refer to as "misspeaking" mean lying and fraud. Mispeaking is "Hey can I have a Corona" -- Corona comes and you say "woops I mean Amstel."

    Saying, " Leading newspapers in China and the U.S. are taking note of the litany of evidence that ONP is falsifying its financial statements" is an outright lie in an attempt to scare people into selling shares, and in my opinion you are committing the fraud here.
    Aug 10 03:47 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Well this is where I think you're wrong and full of crap, and in my opinion the fact that you make up lies (i.e. you just got called out for) is exactly the issue here. Yes, it's not the final issue on whether ONP is committing fraud. In my opinion, Deloitte will be the final say on here since they have identity and accountabiliy whereas you're an anonymous blogger. So yes, the lies you make up in addition to providing bent versions of the truth go to the heart of the issue here.

    You just made up a lie about U.S. newspapers reporting on ONP's fraud-- given this came along with a lot of other information you provided. When called out on it, you recant but say everything else you say is correct--- well sir, had I not called you out, this would have gone down as just another unchecked lie that scares people into selling shares, which in my opinion is your only real intent here.
    Aug 10 03:20 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Wow, I'm impressed. That's some smooth talking. Written like a seasoned short and distort specialist. I call you out on an outright lie about something you wrote, and you respond elegantly by saying that while you did outright lie and your statement is not true, it COULD BE TRUE EVENTUALLY. I mean we've gone from you stating what sounded like a fact, to you providing total speculation.

    This is great stuff.
    Aug 10 03:07 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    " Leading newspapers in China and the U.S. are taking note of the litany of evidence"

    Also please elaborate on which "leading" U.S. News Paper has said picked up this story? I will not be accepting your PDF to removed Wall Street Journal articles that you claim were once there.

    In all seriousness, which leading U.S. newspaper (as per your post above) is agreeing with your assessment? Or wait, is this just another short and distort tactic where you throw out accusations that sound damning but are totally untrue.

    Please list this U.S. newspaper as per your allegation. thanks.
    Aug 10 02:36 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    HAH! " Leading newspapers in China and the U.S. are taking note of the litany of evidence" -- Chinese Company Analyst

    Read your own article. You have to link to a PDF that you created because that article was taken down. I cannot believe you would make reference to an article that has been deleted by the publisher. I mean why would they remove it if it's true information?

    Your arguments are pathetic at best. Deloitte will probably (in my opinion) clear the allegations and this stock will go up from there. You will go create another alias name and start over.
    Aug 10 01:48 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Waldo also has his own website for anyone interested. He does the same anonymous, with no accountability professional bashing of stocks. He is not some inbiased commenter here. He does the same thing for a living. Check out his website @ waldomushman.com. His disclaimer is crazy.
    Aug 10 11:58 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Oh and then link your evidence in these blogs/articles to another BLOG WEBSITE. I hope all you future short and distort prodigies out there are taking note. This is quality stuff going on here.
    Aug 10 11:54 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Nice Waldo. Short and distort 101. Class is in session. Waldo just said above, "It is also worth noting that the second largest scrap supplier that ONP reports has annual sales in an amount less than what ONP claims to purchase from them."

    Sounds eerily familiar to an article I wrote that outlines both of your smoke and mirrors, short and distort methods. A line from my article is below describing how these two clowns go about writing their reports. I recommend reading my article before listening to these two frauds.

    "2) Locate a company in China with a similar sounding name as the Target Company’s suppliers.

    a. Show that this company reports less sales than the Target company claims to pay its supplier"

    seekingalpha.com/artic...
    Aug 10 11:52 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    You're an anonymous blogger with no accountability and no identity. ONP's CEO, ONP's current auditors, Roth, Harbinger and Hudson Securities, Loeb Law Firm and now Deloitte, are all public figures with long standing reputations. They have accountability and identities on the line and have found nothing wrong (Deloitte is the latest which will come soon). You hide behind a computer screen. No one knows who you are, except you and your maker.

    Frankly I cannot fathom how any one would take your article here (which links to another blogging website via PDFs that you uploaded yourself), seriously. My opinion is that you are a complete fraud yourself.

    If you are so certain about this, given that your opinion differs so drastically from several large firms that have accountability, why don't you make yourself accountable and publish your real name, with a link something that verifies it. Maybe a linkedin.com profile???
    Aug 10 11:43 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Orient Paper's Top Supplier: An Empty Shell Owned by ONP's CEO [View article]
    Oh and funny someone should mention something about CSKI. Because it is a 10 bagger in the last 9 years. It was under $1 in 2002. And yes, way to manipulate the data here, it is down a bit from its 2010 SPIKE high, but yea a 10 bagger in 9 years before that. Whoever wrote that about CSKI is a genius.
    Aug 10 10:45 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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