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  • The Trading Characteristics Of Market Manias [View article]
    A quick sampling of PLUG message board wisdom. 10 minute cut and paste. The sentiments expressed are authentic. (From:

    * " PLUG is Like Knowing the Winning #'s Before the Lottery Draw Takes Place


    * I am sure it will (be) beyond 50 in very short time

    * My friend is a hedge fund manager he sees Plug going to 20 no problem

    * My target price 4 digits $1000

    * I'm happy with 3 digits $999 !

    * 10 bagger time BLDP and PLUG The Department Of Defense Goes Green

    * I expect to close above 10 by Tuesday for sure and close to if not above $13 on Friday. A whole new definition for March madness."
    Mar 9 06:17 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    Thank you. That was the purpose in writing it. PLUG and Ballard have become retail-investor-get-rich quick manias. My broker told me Friday afternoon that its cut the margin requirement on PLUG to 100% in order to make it a non-marginable stock; and will make no shares available for shorting.

    This is what killed the Silver rally a couple of years ago. Silver had become a mania. It was so much cheaper than gold to own; and it was going up in leaps and bounds daily and in after-hours worldwide.

    International Brokerages raised the margin requirements in sync - to hold what you had and to buy more. Investors worldwide had to sell, which allowed the shorts to cover. It had become the mother of all short-squeezes. SLV rallied the following morning for about 15 minutes, as if to defy the new margin rule, but then began to tank.

    It's tanked ever since. Someone will pull the plug on PLUG soon, and thus the purpose of my article - as both a warning and a lesson to be learned about manias. They are not good for anyone except for the first-movers who get in on the dance floor, just as the music begins.
    Mar 8 01:45 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    "Methinks thous doth protest too much."

    Hmmm. And "who" was the investor; and "who" did the investor sell his shares too - the retail public? And when the stock was trading at $3/share "a few weeks before" was that when the "investor" thought that paying $5.74 a share was just fine with "him"?

    A shameless brokerage firm cashed in on a mania, and one of their analysts helped them pitch the secondary shares for the company. Whether it was overt or covert - the result was the same.

    One of the big discussions after the financial crisis - and after the dotcom bust too - was the degree to which analysts became cheerleaders for the firms their company was doing business with. It's clearly unethical.

    You better hope this stock stays above $5.74; or Henry Blodget could be highlighting Cowen & Co's plug for PLUG on the Business Insider.
    Mar 8 11:44 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    I priced them out and realized it would be cheaper - when all was said and done- to pay the extra $50/month on gas and just get a regular car. The Chevy Volt is the closest I have read about to what I would like to buy (someday).

    It might be simplistic of me, but I think this is what the heavy equipment manufacturers reasoned with PLUG. It just didn't pencil out for them. They figured the expense wouldn't pencil out for their customers, either.

    It wasn't "there" yet. And if it was, they would have bought it, maybe for 5 cents on the dollar. I know that if someone offered me a compelling automobile alternative, I would take them up on it.

    Why would it be any different for a forklift company with an expensive power supply? The OEM's passed on it.
    Mar 7 06:53 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    Yes, all true. And so is this: "A forklift is a forklift is a forklift", even if you sprinkle pixie-dust on it.
    Mar 7 05:29 PM | 6 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    It caught my eye and reminded me of the old days. As far as PLUG's high tech future, I will quote Shakespeare, "The fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings." Yogi Berra would put it like this: "A forklift is a forklift is a forklift."

    But if - at the end of the day - it is NOT a forklift, let me know. Last I looked, they sure looked like everyday forklifts to me (but shhh...don't let that big secret out!). And for those who continue to believe in the "secret sauce" behind this everyday journeyman forklift, what words could dissuade them otherwise? Maybe the leprechaun I have tucked in my vest pocket could convince them.
    Mar 7 05:11 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Pulling The PLUG On The Fuel-Cell Mania [View article]
    A lot of comments on the article, and about 9,000 hits (and counting) thus far on SeekingAlpha by 3:30 PM EST, so definitely it's been food for thought for investors PLUGging along.

    For the longs, congratulations. Santa has never had it as good as you have it now, so relish this once-in-a-lifetime fish story that "didn't get away" from you. PLUG must seem like the "Best Ponzi scheme ever". Whoever was on the dance floor first remains the happiest.

    But remember: parabolas have 2 directions - Up and then down. And pigs have only one direction in life: the slaughter-house.

    Earnings next week? In the dotcom days what would always kill a stock was its first earnings announcement after a big run, because what was "under the hood" could then be quantified. A little bit of reality is all it took. Even dotcoms printing a profit were slammed.

    I missed a couple of things in the article - for example - how Walmart mercilessly squeezes its suppliers. I bet that PLUG's profit on those forklifts will be just a little above their cost to sell them. Maybe the CEO offered Walmart the deal of a lifetime to save his company from being delisted? I know I would have if I was him. And Walmart surely wouldn't have minded obliging him, either. "Business as usual", they'd say.

    And since Walmart got such a good deal from PLUG, all the other Big Warehouse Tunas are going to want the same PLUG for themselves too - cheap forklifts.

    Anyway, for those of you who are riding this moonshot higher and believe you've just hit the Klondike while trading in your pajamas, check your oxygen level and keep a steady hand on your stake. There's claim jumpers licking their chops every buck this thing goes higher; and shorts lining up at the door with a begging bowl for more. The short interest in PLUG will probably be over 50% the next time Nasdaq tabulates it.
    Mar 7 03:19 PM | 8 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • In This Year Of The Horse, Ride The Best In Our Stable: UDOW [View article]

    I can't thank you enough for this article, and it's clear as bell to me what you are saying. A remarkable way to look at how human nature both calculates and trades risk.

    Do standard deviations have a place in your calculations? Because it is my experience that one could buy a negative (-2) STD (standard deviation) print when the number of stocks "above their 10 day moving average" in that index reaches a -2 STD.

    For some reason, 10 days straight of losses forces many investors to bail because they cannot withstand the psychological pressure; creating a nice buying opportunity. I cross-calculated the SPXL, SVXY, UDOW, and TNA to these -2 STD moments (end of day data) for the indices and the returns were all positive within 2 weeks.

    Of course, this probably would not work in a bear market, but we are obviously not in one of those now. Keep writing. Great stuff.
    Mar 5 04:00 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Housing Market May Be Starting To Crash [View article]
    More thoughts on this matter were expressed 3 months ago in an article, "Home Builders Immunize Growth Prospect through Select Metro Markets" (
    Feb 27 04:26 AM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Housing Market May Be Starting To Crash [View article]
    1) " why, if the housing market is so robust, they can't finance their operations from cash flow?"

    Simple answer. Why spend their own money to build homes if someone else will give them the money to do it practically for free? The public builders have almost unlimited access to dirt-cheap capital with very few strings attached. Gratis QE and the Federal Reserve.

    2) You're right about the employment to population ratio; but it's more than just bad management and the financial crisis's fault. Those things simply exacerbated it.

    Rather it's demographics.

    The Post WW II generation - the largest in history - is retiring, and has been retiring (early) since the year 2000 when the numbers first began to level off, and soon after, recede. If you look at the EMRatio you'll see that it really got rocking when the first baby-boomers graduated from high school in 1963, went practically straight up til the year 2,000 (37 years later), when the first boomers began early retirement at 55 years old.

    Now that cohort is in the 65 to 70 year range, and leaving the work force. That's why the numbers look so bad. It's not because something is "wrong". It's because it is the way it is. The difficult thing about the financial crisis is that these experienced workers lost a lot of retirement money in the market, and if they are currently unemployed now or were laid off, are unlikely to be employed professionally again. So yes, there is a human tragedy - exacerbated by the financial crisis - but we would have had this kind of EMratio in any case.

    3) Who is going to buy all these homes? I wonder about that too, but they keep buying them. Maybe it is stock market money; maybe it's good jobs in specific areas (not everywhere is super-expensive LA, San Francisco Bay Area, Silicon Valley, NYC, Boston). There's really brightening economies in other metros where land is not so expensive and nice homes run $250K - very doable with 4.5% mortgage rates. The point is, builders are only building new communities where the jobs are happening. It is for the statistical and real that they build for, not the theoretical nor the hopeful.

    Simple description of their stategy: location, location, location.

    Where I live - a metro area of maybe 15,000, there's ONE FOUR-BEDROOM home for sale, and it will likely go for $50K above asking. There is little to no inventory in the desirable parts of the SF Bay Area. It's like the current drought - driest year on record. Must be the lowest local inventory numbers on record too.

    And new homes? Practically non-existent and they sell quickly. There's actually waiting-lines for new homes, and the builders change the prices once a week if the demand is too high. I have read about families camping out in tents in front of the sales office at new communities in the East SF Bay (Dublin, CA)

    The only reason that Tri-Pointe (TPH) and KB Home ( have not sold every coastal CA home they could build is that they DON'T WANT TO. Where would they ever get replacement lots? At 2010-2012 prices? Forget it. Those days are gone.

    So they meter out the lots like little old ladies with tea cups pouring tea, and sell each lot and each home for a few thousand bucks more. Cancellations? Bring em on. The builders will try to keep the deposit and sell the home to a new buyer (almost immediately) for 5% higher.

    Where you see imminent disaster, I see builders shooting fish in a barrel. You don't see how they could possibly do it. I don't see how they could possibly lose.
    Feb 27 03:58 AM | 5 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Housing Market May Be Starting To Crash [View article]
    You do a lot of hard work, Dave, no one is disputing that. It is the inviolability of the decision-making that is being questioned. I suppose I could be accused of the same thing, because on the flip side, I am just as bullish as you are bearish.

    DHI to $5? I just can't see that happening any time soon. The company owns or controls over a 190,000 lots and most of that is legacy holdings. Their footprint in the now-emerging Chicago market almost guarantees them recovery profits there. And it appears buyers prefer "new" homes; not used ones.
    Feb 26 07:37 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Housing Market May Be Starting To Crash [View article]
    I think the fact that you sell-short the stocks that you recommend to do so is personally commendable. You have skin in the game; actual risk. I do too. Everything I write about I own, or would like to own.

    My worry about your excessive bearishness is the opportunity-cost to traders who have followed your line of thinking. Unless they were very adept and sure-footed, they could be looking at significant losses at this point; in fact, months of significant losses.

    You are not a single voice in the crowd (as you might assume). You have a large following of over a 1,000 readers on S/A. The one question I think worth considering is if there could be any circumstances - some day, some way - which might convince you to change your mind?

    At this point your fervor to short construction-related stocks seems boundless. However, the actual performance of the builders does not appear to confirm that fervor.
    Feb 26 05:01 PM | 6 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Housing Market May Be Starting To Crash [View article]
    Dave - the housing index hit a new 52-week high this morning. (See: New Home sales surprised 9.6% to the upside in January. The replacement cycle remains alive and well. It's likely that there is an acceleration afoot in new home sales this Spring, not a crash.
    Feb 26 10:29 AM | 8 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Why Are So Many Homebuyers Backing Out Of Their Contracts? [View article]
    But unfortunately, as Issue above mentioned, KBH has the lowest reputation among real estate agents in the U.S. because their "first response" to a site problem seems to be legalistic, rather than pragmatic. Florida is a case in point. Homeowners had to go to the media and the courts before they could get their leaking rooves and rotting walls fixed.
    Feb 22 03:15 AM | 4 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Housing Starts And Building Permits Miss By A Mile [View article]
    I like your "pond scum" indicator. Kinda funny; but likely true in your local market if you have found it to be reliable.

    Out here in the SF Bay Area where I live, we have gone from exceedingly low inventory to practically NOTHING for sale. Most homes go for above asking. Inventory must be the lowest on record.
    Feb 22 01:13 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment